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FanciJewel
06-13-2010, 06:45 AM
When you are out and about in drab doing the usual errands, moving about with day to day shopping or other activities, how often do you have a "sister sighting"?

There have been many wonderful stories of being out en femme and having fun with sisters and meeting sisters at GNO's and other activities. However, I have not seen any stories of "sister sightings" in the context that I have described above.

I keep my eyes open for other sisters but have not the pleasure of a "sighting". Either the sisters are very passable in my neck of the woods or are not going out in public.

Has anyone had a "sister sighting"? What did you do when you had one?

Fanci

Anneliese
06-13-2010, 08:36 AM
I have been more aware of the possibility of a sister sighting lately. It usually involves a taller-than-average woman who is slightly man-like, but there are other times I'm just not sure. One of the areas where I assume an undressed up sister is before me is when I see another man searching through the women's clothing at the thrift stores I shop at regularly. They might be shopping for a gift for their wife/daughter etc., as I hope others think about me, but I assume they're in the same section for the same reasons I am.

AlisonRenee
06-13-2010, 08:44 AM
Spotted such a lady last week. I think more probably a transitioning TS. She was improbably tall for a woman, but I certainly identified with her.

Anneliese, you could have spotted me searching through the racks at some big department stores around here recently. I was with my gg GF and her daughter who were shopping. I love those excursions. It's just window shopping for me in that situation, but it's fun. Someone who knows "the signs" would probably have clicked to my level of enthusiasm, even if I was clearly in the wrong part of the ladies' section. (juniors? uh, no.) I have too much fun helping them find clothes.

AKAMichelle
06-13-2010, 10:32 AM
I haven't spotted any since I was a teenager so I'm not sure how to act. Since I have come to terms with cd'ing, it would probably be a great big HELLO.

Nicole Erin
06-13-2010, 10:36 AM
The other day when I went to the city-county building, I saw one.
She was going thru security just before I was. Pretty cute really, I didn't say anything, just kind of thought "alright! :thumbsup:"

If it had been somewhere else, I might have stopped and greeted.

Deborah Jane
06-13-2010, 10:37 AM
Oh great!!!!!

Now do I not only have to wonder if I've been "made" by the general public, I also have to look out for other C/Ders running after me shouting something like...."Hi Debs" :brolleyes: :tongueout

Marcia Blue
06-13-2010, 10:41 AM
I have once, for sure, spotted a sister. She was with a GG, at a Chinese restaurant. Her shoulders were my first clue. I looked for an adams apple but, it was not very prominent. The cincher was when she went to pay and had her male wallet in her purse. She was very nervous, and I wanted to tell her she looked fine and to relax. I was unfortunatly with family, who I am not out to.

JenniferR771
06-13-2010, 10:48 AM
I have spotted a few possible sisters at Goodwill--and--one day a tall woman scared me away from the dresses rack. 60 seconds later I took a good look, as I hid behind the women's short sleeve pullovers. Finally I got bold and caught her eye and winked, as I held a woman's top. Finally said to her, "Hi I am Jennifer--do you think this would fit me?"
He/she then introduced herself. She said she suspected that I could be a sister in drab.

NathalieX66
06-13-2010, 10:58 AM
In the town next to mine, there is a very tall senior-ish full timer that I see almost daily as she walks to the grocery store & back to her apartment. Sometimes I think the miniskirts, and even a petticoat is a little over the top for someone that age, which occasionally distracts traffic.

Jolene
06-13-2010, 11:01 AM
I have spotted a few possible sisters at Goodwill--and--one day a tall woman scared me away from the dresses rack. 60 seconds later I took a good look, as I hid behind the women's short sleeve pullovers. Finally I got bold and caught her eye and winked, as I held a woman's top. Finally said to her, "Hi I am Jennifer--do you think this would fit me?"
He/she then introduced herself. She said she suspected that I could be a sister in drab.

Jennifer. maybe you have seen me shopping at the Goodwill store recently. Could be I blended in so well shopping the women's section you would never have noticed me.
Yeah Right. LOL :)

SandraAbsent
06-13-2010, 11:14 AM
About a year back I was out eating very late at night and our waitress was a sister. I was with 2 GGs and was myself going through a purge and rejection phase. They giggled and laughed so much she stopped waiting on us. I kept my mouth shut, and if they only knew they might not have been laughing so much. Needless to say I am not friends with these girls anymore. Interestingly enough she is someone who posts here!

Jonianne
06-13-2010, 11:19 AM
I saw a gentleman with his wife in a Subway's in Ashland, Va, we were both in drab, but since I keep my hair long and styled femme, he smiled and gave me a big thumb's up. I pretty much figured he must have been cd. I wish I would have stopped and chatted. - If you happen to be a member here, give me a shout!

donnina1963
06-13-2010, 11:33 AM
At a chess tournament of all things a couple of months ago (chess is my main hobby and I've been playing tournaments on and off for 35+ years, when I was in junior high, shortly after Bobby won the world championship). We've been out 3 times but all we do is play chess :( I came out to her on the phone before the first time we went out, I don't think she was expecting that. Have not gone out (or stayed in :D ) with her when I'm dressed yet, she on the other hand lives it 24/7, whereas I'm just beginning my journey and don't know where exactly it might lead.

Christina Horton
06-13-2010, 12:04 PM
I have never had a (sighting) This thread sounds like a UFO or a Bigfoot sightings.

" The Very shy creature is rarely seen out if her normal habitat and is easily frightened. If you see the creature you must report the sighting to the military right away and not approach the creature to prevent a forced makeover ! You might end up looking fabulous." :heehee:

Ok silly I know but that's what I was thinking about while reading about the "sightings".

I if you see me out dressed or see me in drab your more then welcome to come up and say hi if you want , but most girls don't what the attention. So if you do "spot" a sister don't do anything to upset her as much as we all want to share this with them.

I would like to "see" a fellow sister but so far I have yet to.......That I know of. The other girls might just pass so much better then I do or can see. I can't wait to really see one of us.

If I do spot a sister you all will be the first to know!!!

BARBARA_MELENDEZ
06-13-2010, 12:24 PM
I had two sightings this week oddly enough on my Local Walmart.One Asian and one Hispanic .I figured they were both full time girls sometimes I am a little conscious of my eight but this ladies were a lot taller than me.

Kirra_Moon
06-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Haha @ Christina Horton

I've seen a few people wearing women's clothes while out but never a "CD" in full femme.

erika130
06-13-2010, 12:49 PM
I keep my eyes open for other sisters but have not the pleasure of a "sighting". Either the sisters are very passable in my neck of the woods or are not going out in public...

Same here, I have barely, if ever, seen a "sister" or full cd out & about & not in an event where they would normally be at. It's very strange as I live only an hour away from the big NYC, now you know there are quite a few there, but somehow I don't see them around here.

dennisGTS
06-13-2010, 01:00 PM
I don't think I've ever knowingly seen a fellow "sister" out and about. I think it may have to do with the fact that everywhere I've lived has been near a military post. Not saying there are no CDing soldiers out there (like me) but I think the soldiers would rather not CD in a town around such a high population of military boys where they could possibly be caught/outed. I also think civilian CDers would rather not be around such a high concentration of testosterone filled military boys either.

When I do venture away from the area where I live, I normally don't actively look for other CDers...even if I have seen a fellow "sister", they've blended in so well, I didn't notice.

NiCo
06-13-2010, 01:28 PM
Oh great!!!!!

Now do I not only have to wonder if I've been "made" by the general public, I also have to look out for other C/Ders running after me shouting something like...."Hi Debs" :brolleyes: :tongueout

I don’t know if you were being serious or not Debs but either way I agree. I often think, why the hell people would get “excited” about meeting some lady out doing her daily activities, for example, going to the shop for a loaf of bread. Would she really want to get ‘clocked’? I know if I am mistaken [which doesn’t happen often but still…] it kills my confidence. Seriously.

I probably encounter a lot of transgender people out and about but I never really notice but then again I never say a thing…why would I want to tear their confidence to shreds?

I don’t want people running up to me going “hey brother!” <<< GTFO.

My friend is MtF [who’s “stealth” btw] and is sitting here reading this post with me and thinks it’s disgusting that people would question the femininity or masculinity of women/ men- how do WE know if they are males or females, or just lesbian women [they could well be transmen…but then again, could just be butch women] or they could be feminine men etc etc…isn’t that like an invasion of their privacy to live their lives without people questioning their motives. If someone was to run up to them in a supermarket and out them, it could seriously put their safety at risk. Not even a joke.

I wouldn’t even make a joke about this, or even think about it at all…I hardly pay attention to people in the streets anyway [because where I live in Glasgow that could get you stabbed], but I’d never even question it either if I seen someone as masculine or feminine- it’s not my business and I keep my nose out, even if they do or do not know it.

Novel post but hey ho.

dennisGTS
06-13-2010, 01:54 PM
I agree with you and your friend NiCo but unfortunately, the truth of the matter is, people are judged everyday because of the way they dress/present themselves and I don't think that'll ever change.

If I were to go out in public I'd hate it if someone were to come up to me and acknowledge me because I'm CDing; even if it were a positive comment. Because then, it would make me even more self conscious. I would hope that I could be able to pass inconspicuously. And that's why, if I were to notice another "sister" I wouldn't say anything to her unless first spoken to.

I may have plenty of lesbian and gay friends and am very open to how other people decide to present themselves and live their lives but I have to be honest with you, I am still guilty for judging other people because of the way they present themselves...and I don't think there is one person in this world that hasn't done their fair share of judging of other people...it's a sad but unfortunate truth...

Babette
06-13-2010, 02:37 PM
Occasionally, I catch a glimpse of one. My wife on the other hand picks them out right and left, and then discretely brings them to my attention. We never approach these people out of respect for their privacy. Sometimes it is interesting to observe how others react when they clock a CD.

Most of our encounters have been while traveling throughout the US and Canada. Compared to many of you, we live about as far into the boonies as can be. Nevertheless, we have run into them here too.

If you want to see more of us "out in the wild", then it pays to be more observant. Otherwise, you can be somewhat oblivious like me.

Babette

aprilgirl
06-13-2010, 02:38 PM
My wife spotted a sister at a local department store salon yesterday. She was dressed in slacks, in full make up without a wig on. My wife assumed she possibly was having her wig styled. I was in another part of the store when she told me and thought "good for her". I had no inclination of checking her out and was a bit envious of her enjoying her experience.

tammygirl79
06-13-2010, 02:49 PM
Back in 2007 I used to work in a casino. One night while I was working (I worked in drab) and a group of four ladies were having a night out at the casino. I could tell that one of them was a sister, and I eventually went up to her and started talking to her. After we talked for awhile, come to find out that all four of them were CD's. I was so surprised. Like i said, I could tell that the one i was talking to was a cd because even though she was very beautiful that night, she had a very prominent Adams Apple, she was taller then average, and she didin't do the greates job conceiling her facial hair....some light stuble could be seen on her upper lip. But I was sooo surprised that the other three were CD's as well.....They were soooo gorgeous, and totaly (atleast to me) undetectable!

Fab Karen
06-13-2010, 04:25 PM
They giggled and laughed so much she stopped waiting on us. I kept my mouth shut, and if they only knew they might not have been laughing so much. Needless to say I am not friends with these girls anymore. Interestingly enough she is someone who posts here!
You could have stood up for her without outing yourself. If you defend people's right to diversity, etc. it doesn't shout to the world "I'm one too."



I probably encounter a lot of transgender people out and about but I never really notice but then again I never say a thing…why would I want to tear their confidence to shreds?

I don’t want people running up to me going “hey brother!” <<< GTFO.

My friend is MtF [who’s “stealth” btw] and is sitting here reading this post with me and thinks it’s disgusting that people would question the femininity or masculinity of women/ men- how do WE know if they are males or females, or just lesbian women [they could well be transmen…but then again, could just be butch women] or they could be feminine men etc etc…isn’t that like an invasion of their privacy to live their lives without people questioning their motives. If someone was to run up to them in a supermarket and out them, it could seriously put their safety at risk. Not even a joke.

Wholeheartedly agree.

Joanie_Shakti
06-13-2010, 05:02 PM
I've only had sightings on two occasions. Well the first one was in the late 1970's which went on for several years. There was a guy who rode a bicycle around town while dressed as a woman. The rumor was that his wife had died and it affected him so much he had taken to wearing her clothes. I don't know if he tried to pass as it was so obvious he wasn't a female. He would come to the theatre where I worked on occasion and if I recall, at least once there was a day's or so worth of beard stubble. Most of the time, I'd see him on his bicycle but would sometimes see him in stores around town.

I recently cleaned up my bicycle after it being dormant for over fifteen years. On weekends, I sometimes wear light eye makeup and I think about the guy when I ride my bike with the makeup on.

The other sighting was a few years ago in San Diego. I was at Fashion Valley and was having lunch at a restaurant outside. A sister walked in with a GG and sat down at a table near me. The sister seemed a bit self conscious and again, was obviously male. I mentioned this couple to a GG friend I visit when in the area and she had a positive comment about them. I wish I could remember her exact words as I kind of want to come out to her but am afraid of losing the friendship.

There was also the time I saw a group of gay guys (from what I judged by their mannerisms) at the same mall. One was wearing women's sandals, but I don't think that really counts.

ReneeT
06-13-2010, 05:17 PM
I was in Vegass staying at Caesars Palace last week, My family (wife, 2 teenage kids) and i were dining in one of the hotel restaurants, and there was a sister dining right scross from us with a GG. She was beautiful, iwth a long, platinum bblonde wig. Although i wss trying to be discreet, my wife said, "what are you staring at?" My wife, who knows about Renee and does not approve, had no clue that the sister was not a GG - neither did my kids. As i turned out, I dined in the same resttaurant en femme 3 days later

Kayla Shadows
06-13-2010, 05:19 PM
Unless there has been some type of interaction that was fate,I leave the other girls be.I just think,cool,another brave soul out there.

SandraAbsent
06-13-2010, 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SandraAbsent
They giggled and laughed so much she stopped waiting on us. I kept my mouth shut, and if they only knew they might not have been laughing so much. Needless to say I am not friends with these girls anymore. Interestingly enough she is someone who posts here!

You could have stood up for her without outing yourself. If you defend people's right to diversity, etc. it doesn't shout to the world "I'm one too."

Then I was so wrapped in denial and shame, it was all I could do to keep my mouth shut and not smack them. I probably would out myself now just to shut them up!

SusanCACD
06-13-2010, 06:54 PM
I have seen at least one sister when out and about. As a closet girl, I have no idea what it is like to go out, I have no idea how I would feel if another sister approached me, even in the friendliest manner, And like many of you, I have always wondered just what is the right way to let them know I am and I wish I was as brave? I think you look pretty? I wish I was more like you? What to say? "Hi, I am a pathetic closet dresser, you make me feel good?" Jeez, some times I hate myself......

Susan

donnina1963
06-13-2010, 07:06 PM
I have seen at least one sister when out and about. As a closet girl, I have no idea what it is like to go out, I have no idea how I would feel if another sister approached me, even in the friendliest manner, And like many of you, I have always wondered just what is the right way to let them know I am and I wish I was as brave? I think you look pretty? I wish I was more like you? What to say? "Hi, I am a pathetic closet dresser, you make me feel good?" Jeez, some times I hate myself......

Susan

How about "I think you look pretty, could I get your phone number?" You might just make their day. Plus if you get their number, even if you really aren't interested in dating, you could come out to them on the phone.

PS....you are NOT pathetic :hugs:

Missy Tanya
06-13-2010, 08:16 PM
I saw 5,6,7 maybe more, was hard to tell what gender some of the people were. Tanya and her wife went to Capital City Pride in Olympia, Washington yesterday. It was 1 year ago since Tanya went out in the bright day light to another Pride Event for the first time. No one took a double take, no one pointed a finger. In fact many came up to say Hi!!. Our GASS TG group had a booth and many of our members showed up. I did see a few new girls and some that I only could wish I looked as good as. Now I know while I like being Tanya, Lesbians are good lookers.. ha ha..

Tanya

yumi2000us
06-13-2010, 09:25 PM
I make it up to San Fran every once in a while and I was just walking down Market Street for about 6 blocks on a beautiful Friday afternoon a couple of weeks ago. I could swear within that 15 minute walk, I spotted at least five or six CDers. It was pretty busy but nobody seems to really notice/care at all - the beauty of SF I guess.

Leslie Langford
06-13-2010, 09:31 PM
A few years ago, I was out shopping in drab in the women's section of a local Sears outlet store, and I saw a "sister" going through the items in the rack next to mine. What caught my attention initially was the fact that her wig was done up in almost the identical way in which Rose Marie of the old Dick van Dyke Show used to wear her hair - complete with the two tiny little bows on either side of her head near her ears. A totally '60's look, and so out of fashion at the time.

And while her make up and the way she was dressed were otherwise very lady-like and convincing, I did notice that when her wrists poked through the long sleeves of her coat, they were extremely hairy - almost gorilla-like. A dead give-away, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why that glaring detail seemed to have eluded her when she had clearly taken such great pains to be "passable" in the rest of her presentation.

A couple of years ago, I also spotted another "sister" in a local mall just before Christmas, and she was chatting with an SA who was operating one of those kiosks typically found in the traffic areas of malls. People were doing double-takes (as was I) because her outfit was more like a costume and something that either Mrs. Claus or a middle-aged female elf would wear - complete with a pair of buckled shoes not unlike what Benjamin Franklin might have worn back in the 1700's. Clearly, she wanted to attract attention, and equally clearly, she was making the young girl that she had button-holed very uncomfortable, given all of the snickers that she was attracting towards the two of them.

I subsequently found out from a GG (former?) member here who lives in my area - and who I had originally connected with via another crossdressing forum (now defunct) - that this particular crossdresser was known to her and that she presented herself in this manner because she was into public humiliation.

This GG hasn't posted here in quite a while and seems to have withdrawn from the crossdressing scene (at least on the Internet) even though she was very attracted to CDers in general, and very supportive of her husband. She even ran a shopping service for CDer's at one time where she would accompany them on their outings, and actually had this individual as a client once. Not a particularly happy experience for her, it seems, and from my own observation, I can see why.

Whatever floats your boat, I suppose, and I don't want to appear judgemental, but I do wish that those CDer's who are heavily into the fetishistic components of their "hobby" would keep it indoors. Fine for them to do what they do, but it also reflects poorly on the rest of us who merely wish to be as passable as possible and blend in when out and about, and not reinforce the negative stereotypes that already exist about us while giving those rednecks out there even more ammunition to justify discriminating against us.

Monica M
06-13-2010, 09:34 PM
I have seen at least one sister when out and about. As a closet girl, I have no idea what it is like to go out, I have no idea how I would feel if another sister approached me, even in the friendliest manner, And like many of you, I have always wondered just what is the right way to let them know I am and I wish I was as brave? I think you look pretty? I wish I was more like you? What to say? "Hi, I am a pathetic closet dresser, you make me feel good?" Jeez, some times I hate myself......

Susan

I would go to Esprit if you can....that is what got me out...and I waited 40 years for it....don't wait that long.

Monica


I make it up to San Fran every once in a while and I was just walking down Market Street for about 6 blocks on a beautiful Friday afternoon a couple of weeks ago. I could swear within that 15 minute walk, I spotted at least five or six CDers. It was pretty busy but nobody seems to really notice/care at all - the beauty of SF I guess.

One of them was probably me! :heehee:

Monica


How about "I think you look pretty, could I get your phone number?" You might just make their day. Plus if you get their number, even if you really aren't interested in dating, you could come out to them on the phone.

PS....you are NOT pathetic :hugs:

Why not keep a supply of friendship cards with your en famme picture and your email address and give one to her.


Monica

Anneliese
06-14-2010, 12:53 AM
Years ago, my brother mentioned that there was a 7' transsexual (his wording) working at a local OfficeMax. He said she had helped him several times. One day I happened to need some office supplies, and was in the area, and lo and behold, there she was. I'd say OVER 7 feet. Not passable, but certainly gutsy...and very knowledgeable and friendly. This was before I started dressing seriously.

Katesback
06-14-2010, 08:28 AM
Since I am a girl that has no choice but to live my life as I am I am always out in the REAL world.

I would say that there are some people that can identify me (not that I really care) and to tell you the truth I would have no issue with someone else that is trans comming up and starting a NORMAL conversation.

On the other hand I would find it annoying at best if some other girl came up and started a trans conversation with me.

Will a CD come up and talk to me? Well I cant say that has ever happened. I have to assume that there are VERY few CDs that ever venture out into the real world. I realze some go to GLBT places in the evenings. Since I generally dont go to those places and really am not a big party person I dont see many CDs.

In my professional life they very often seek me out but I do all that I can to separate the professioal life with my personal life.

Katie

Juliemckay
06-14-2010, 09:39 AM
Odly enough, I've seen two in the last two weeks. The first was coming out of best buy. no wig, no forms, no makeup but womens walking shorts, wedge sandels and the cutest purse. the second was at a local deli. I couldn't tell, she was very passable. At first I thought she was a GG, and the cutest outfit (black pencil shirt, frilly pink blouse and what looked like 3 1/2" heels). I was 100% sure she was GG (very attractive). She stepped behind me to wait on her order and began to talk to her GG friend. The voice gave her away. That's when I began to look much closer and there were several tells, but I had to look close to see them.

I said nothing to either. I thought it best to just let everyone go on about their business.

Blaire
06-14-2010, 11:35 AM
Nico's got the right number here, folks. I know I wouldn't enjoy the sideshow attraction experience, and I'm pretty sure that goes for most.

We all get pretty ticked off hearing the whispers behind our backs... And then go off doing the same. I begin to understand where the aggreived are coming from...

Kate Simmons
06-14-2010, 01:14 PM
Unfortunately, if it would not make the headline on World Weekly News, I wouldn't be interested in looking.:)

kellyanne
06-14-2010, 01:39 PM
I have been seeing a sister here in South Edmonton walking along the river - I have tried to catch up with her but she always increases the pace accordingly.

If only she knew I was a card carrying pantied sister in drab looking to give her my number !

sometimes_miss
06-14-2010, 04:43 PM
At my job, I frequently see tell tale signs on guys that hint they might be CD. The poor ones that underdress and get caught, of course, well they're just asking for it. But I try to help them avoid having anyone else notice; I don't know what they think of me for doing that, but no one's ever said anything.

ReneeT
06-14-2010, 05:18 PM
I am out a lot - if you see me, PLEASE say "hi"!

msginaadoll
06-14-2010, 05:26 PM
I have had a few sighting through the years of the elusive cdsaurous. Sorry couldnt help myself. Once was at a local bookstore, I was in guy mode the other time. The second time was at a local coffee shop that had acoustic music. This was before I realized how friendly that area was to transgender individuals. Now I go there dressed.
On a side note if anyone from this forum ever sees me out and about, I personally would love you to say hi. Heck I may even buy ya coffee if you are nice!!!

CharlotteW
06-14-2010, 06:56 PM
I spotted a 'sister' just a few days ago, and perhaps again today. She popped to her car dressed in a pink and black mini-skirt, I'm afraid her masculine walk blew her cover although the friend I was with never noticed. I'm almost certain I spotted her again today walking her dog. She was wearing sunglasses and covered her face with a scarf. I'd love it if she was a member of this forum and got in contact via PM :)

Amber Chen
06-14-2010, 07:12 PM
I saw a TS one day in my work building...she was probably heading up to the electrolgist to get her face done. She looked very passable, and only another TG/TS could have spotted her. I said nothing and let her "pass".

JanetHarper
06-14-2010, 08:01 PM
I often see other sisters as Sydney is fairly TG friendly.

One sticks in my mind though, I was in a DIY store in Wollongong (more rednecks than Sydney) she was in the queue in front of me. She would have been totally passable except for her extreme nervousness, but maybe we're all more sensitive to spotting other sisters. The checkout girl was totally professional and didn't bat an eyelid. I caught her eye in the car park and just smiled hello, hopefully I didn't send her back into the closet.

Elsa Larson
06-24-2010, 12:13 AM
In Sept 2007, I was leaving a local restaurant with my kids and our church group when 3 tall ladies walked in. It was not a read but a recognize since I had bookmarked the web site of one of them.

I attempted to discretely introduce myself as a sister while in full male mode, including bushy full beard. I'm sure she thought I was crazy.

A year later, I got to talk to her at a local support group.

susants
06-24-2010, 05:32 AM
I go out as often as I can I know I don't pass 100% but like to think i look ok and only thoes who are looking for tells or signs notice me
so i would not mind if someone said hi
Susan

Anneliese
06-24-2010, 06:38 AM
Out and about and saw two sisters. They were close to passable to me, so probably wouldn't be noticed by most. They seemed very happy together.

victoriamwilliams1
06-24-2010, 06:44 AM
I have seen a few sisters while out in both modes and I have not tried to talk to them. Now one of them I saw I think I met them in a meeting.

Elizabeth Ann
06-24-2010, 09:58 AM
Several months ago, I was returning home on the Washington DC metro (subway) in the evening after a long day at work. There was a woman in the lightly filled car that got my attention. She had the kind of sun creased face than in men we call "character filled" and which women avoid with moisturizer and sun screen. She sat with her feet flat on the floor and her knees almost shoulder width apart.

I thought it must be a sister, and wanted to acknowledge with eye contact, a smile, or other friendly gesture. But what really confirmed it for me was her intense concentration on the book she was holding. During the 10-15 minute train ride, she never once looked up from the book, never checked her surroundings, or looked at anyone else, including me. I have never seen anyone, male or female, avoid the world with such dedication.

I finally got off at my stop without ever getting her attention. To my knowledge, she is the only one I have ever seen "in the wild" so to speak.

Liz

Tricia Lee
06-24-2010, 11:21 AM
I've seen a couple for sure. Once was with my family at a Denny's restaurant in Lafayette, Indiana. I didn't notice at first even though she was sitting at a table in plain view of me. When she walked by I notice she was well over 6'. Since we were near to Purdue University, I commented that must be someone from the women's basketball team. My wife said it was a guy. I turned around to confirm while she was at the cash register. No one else seemed to pay any attention to her.

The other time I saw an over-dressed woman walking into JC Penney's. I was driving by from a distance. Once I was in the store I saw her more closely. She was well-dressed, but tall, and didn't do a good job of hiding the 5 o'clock shadow. She bought some things, and the girl SA's at the counter giggled after she left.

During a recent trip to Portland, I had a chance to go shopping for a few hours. While trying on shoes at a DSW, I got at least a 1/2 dozen comments from women about the shoes I was trying on. "Cute shoes", etc. Two of the women really engaged me in conversation, and were very complimentary. They didn't directly acknowledge that they new I was a guy, but I'm sure they did. I appreciated their friendly attention.

Like some of the others, if anyone sees me out shopping be sure to say hi! :)

Loni
06-24-2010, 11:32 AM
not sure if yes or no, but the other day at target in town i thought i did see a sister? did not see her in the store...but then i did not try looking for her anyway....had things to do. places to be.
i was in drab with my mom, and she does know and support Loni.


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Donnadcd
06-24-2010, 10:10 PM
that the more I wish I could have a sighting (along with the ensuing greeting, hello and introduction), the less likely it'll ever happen. Maybe I should stop trying and then it will actually happen. What do you think?

NathalieX66
06-24-2010, 10:15 PM
that the more I wish I could have a sighting (along with the ensuing greeting, hello and introduction), the less likely it'll ever happen. Maybe I should stop trying and then it will actually happen. What do you think?

What does everyone think about handing out an en femme business card with a email or facebook address if you spot someone?......just asking.

danielle swenson
06-24-2010, 10:16 PM
Hey donna ,never say never cause ya just never know......

Chickhe
06-24-2010, 10:53 PM
Before I learned to accept myself and although I'm not fully out, I would have been deathly scared if someone approached me. But, now, if it was done in a friendly discreet way I would be fine with it. There is something to be said for the case where you are acknowledged for being CD and respected for that.

Madeleine StClair
06-24-2010, 10:59 PM
I've had a couple of sightings, both while I was in drab shopping for women's clothes. One was at the register in a Walmart ... the lady was quite, ahem, robust and seemed kinda redneck ... so I didn't feel like talking to her, since I seldom get along with rednecks of either gender.

The other encounter was really cool. It was the first time I went to buy skirts and blouses for myself: I walked into a certain local thrift shop, looked over at the women's section, and immediately spotted ... a tallish person with a bright orange wig. Got closer and, yep, CD. Now this gal was clearly not trying to pass; besides the wig, she had on striped leggings, a very fetishy-looking skirt, and way-over-the-top makeup--kind of crossdressing-as-performance-art, I guess. So I said, "Hey, I like your outfit." And so we talked for a while, and she gave me some valuable tips about clothing, makeup, and places to go in town. That really helped me get my bearings and feel at ease with shopping.

In general, though, I'd have to agree with what some have said: if you encounter someone who wants to pass, maybe they don't want to be bothered. I think I would only talk to them if the circumstances were such that it was okay to talk to them regardless of their being a "sister" or not ... and I wouldn't immediately bring up the subject of crossdressing.


What does everyone think about handing out an en femme business card with a email or facebook address if you spot someone?......just asking.

Well, you know, I've been seriously considering making such a card for myself, though for me it would take a bit more than just spotting someone before I whipped it out--see above.

Karen564
06-25-2010, 01:13 AM
I've seen my share over the years....

Speaking of,
I just saw a TS sister yesterday while I was in CVS waiting in line....she was so pleasant that she let me go ahead of her even though she was already at the register ....guess it was because I only had a couple items..so I gave a sincere thank you ..

Of course I did my best not to let on I knew or wait for her outside the store to greet her.......It's one of those things where you never know how they would react, since most don't appreciate being clocked......some don't mind, but most do...
Even though I wouldn't mind if anyone came up to me, since I'm very comfortable with myself now & approachable, but that has only happened to me once so far by another TS girl..

Anyway, whoever it was....just want to say thanks again....:hugs:

t-girlxsophie
06-25-2010, 01:23 AM
There is a "sister" who shops in the store I work always after midnight,I dont make any conscious effort to identify myself as a fellow sister,aside from my usual cheery smile I show everyone (sometimes lol)i mean theres not many openings to say anything between the baked beans and the tins of soup.

But am not even sure I would say something to Her,I mean the poor woman's just out doing her shopping not on a secret mission to avoid being "outed" by everyone

christine55
06-25-2010, 03:03 AM
I was in wallyworld in drab and noticed a very pretty girl in a very nice looking blouse and skirt, with nicest peep toed slingback sandals with her toenails painted bright red. I really didn't want to stare so I was not able to really look closely. I kind of overdress when I go out but she was dressed more nicely than
I would dare to in walmart. Later when I was leaving I saw her walking out to her car and she looked down at her skirt, just as we all do at times, and which you seldom see women do. She was about 25 yrs old. She was really cute.
I don't know if she was one of us but thinking back on it I kind of suspect she was. I'd love to meet her sometime and talk.
Hugs, Christine in I.F.

Ms Deidre
06-25-2010, 03:21 AM
Over my many years I have seen a few gurls out and about although Ihave never really said anythingto any of them. Perhaps my favorite sighting was the year after I went FT I was working at Penney's as a Christmas temp in the women's section. I saw two girls in there shopping, made me feel good we have the liberties we do nowadays. :)

joanieb
06-25-2010, 04:46 AM
I have had a sister sighting or two. All of them though were in or at non convenient times to say "hey gurl fren". And have always left me a little anxious or sad. Firstly because a chance meeting, wonderful time chatting, new friend opportunity was lost. And second, I was in endrab at those moments. Would my approach and subsequent disclosure that I was a "Sister", cause the sister to think. "OMG! How did he know? I can't pass?!".

I guess the only way to ease that pain would be if the two of you were enfemme. That way you could do the giggle thing as when dressed and out we have the excuse that we can all tell each other apart anyway.

(On passing I think we get lost on the term and what we think we need to do to "pass". We should think more of a term like presentable. As I believe this is really our nature. Or the nature of those of us who have no desire to transition to full time womanhood. Being presentable in public as a (excuse the term) a guy in a dress. Is in my mind more of an honest statement. And if we do so with taste style and class, to a point where we do in fact look presentable. I think we have accomplished more then "Passing" as something we actually are not. I've had the pleasure of many conversations with GGs in public settings, and they have all gave me some paraphrased line from Too Wong Foo, I'm not really sure what you are, because woman don't have Adams apples, but I know I can not think of you as a man.) :battingeyelashes:

RocketGal
06-25-2010, 07:35 AM
Hi, Fanci Jewel and all
My first "Sighting" was about 55 years ago near L.A..

I would take any job just to help at home and have some left for whatever.
I was very much in demand... charged $.50/hr. for yard work.

A Family friend sent me over to see two sisters who needed extensive debris removal and
flower bed renewal.
The sisters were sixtyish and dressed in "Little old lady outfits." They were very sweet and apologised for having such a terribly strenuous job to do for only $.50/hr. and did I need help? And, "Oh my, you really do not look like you need help" I was 6' & 180lbs "We'll bring you some lamonade and fix you a nice lunch...."
Being very wellbroughtup I smilled an asked about tools & Etc.
As I was wont to do, I dug right in and they stood around offering to get me a towel....

At noon, they called me in for a very nice lunch and told me where the bathroom was and towels were Etc.
and made their excuses that they to get some things from the local nursery and some dessert.
"Enjoy your lunch Dear and Just relax and digest your lunch. We'll be back in a bit"

Meanwhile, I opened the door to the WC that they had indicated and found a bedroom instead.
On an old fashion coat rack, neatly hung were two bussiness suits and ties and laid out on the bed were two white shirts. Not being Nosey Parker, I closed the door and opened the correct one behind me. Being born and raised in and around L.A. and somewhat of a similar bent I knew that I was not alone!
But what came next was completely unexpected.
I was in the process of joining the U.S. Navy and was just knocking around with my buddies several weeks later when my mom sent my brother to find me. I thought it was the Navy Recruter to talk to my folks. Nope! It was the two sweet ladies wanting to know if they could adopt me! I was the greatest youngman and they would make sure I got the best education money could buy and so on.

How had they read me???

I had already made up my mind to join the Navy and wouldn't change a thing after 23 years. ps It took me 20 of the 23 to get my BS. It was worth it!

My mother was a very open minded person for the 50s and just asked me if I wanted to be adopted

Karen564
06-25-2010, 12:58 PM
Rocketgal, that was an awesome story, I loved it !

I think we are all far more perceptive when it comes to spotting one another, no matter how good they look & in any mode of dress..
All it takes is one tiny minuscule thing & then we look & listen more closely...
The general public is far less perceptive unless it's obvious..because their simply not not looking for us..
Funny thing is, now my mom tells me every time she thinks she see's one of us, whether being a TS or CD..

She never looked before I came out to her because it never crossed her mind before, and she thought I was the only TS around since Christine Jorgensen ...lol.....& didn't realize how many there really were, but I said there's many more of us going about daily lives than you think or ever dreamed of..
So now she looks for it...and says, I think I saw 2 in the supermarket or one in Macy's, etc...so now she thinks everyone is doing it now...:lol:

Tasha McIntyre
06-25-2010, 05:37 PM
I suppose this counts - I saw a sister whilst she was in drab (I was dressed) at the shopping mall a couple of months ago. I initiated the contact and we had a chat for a while.

Tash :)

Faye56
06-26-2010, 06:41 AM
Whilst shopping in another town I could see another sister in the same aisle as myself, knowing her from attending a mutual tv/ts group. We passed , she looked and I looked , but nothing was said due to the fact that other people were in the aisle, but a recognition was made between us . I looked to see if she was loading her car when I was loading mine, but she had already gone.

Megan70
06-26-2010, 07:02 AM
In my whole CD life ( of over 50 years) I've only seen a handful, less than half a dozen. The MOST obvious that I'll always remember was when my wife and I (in drab I was) were at a discount Outlet Mall in Niagara Fall and along comes a strolling CD , overly made up wearing a cocktail party dress holding a clutch purse and walking like a man that he was. My wife and I laughed quietly to ourselves and i said " He needs some work and going out in public lessons, but I'm not going to approach him and scare him and freak him out, just like I don't like it done to me."

My advice to you girls, spot them but leave them be... give them their space and privacy, they're going to have to pay their dues and test the waters may times like we did until we got it right to pass.

Megan

christina marie
06-26-2010, 07:53 AM
I dont get out much,busy life and all,but when I do, am always dressed to some degree. If anyone spots me,dont be shy! I know i dont "pass",and dont try to, so you dont have to worry about tweaking me.

Prissy Linda
08-16-2010, 08:58 PM
Today my wife and I went to Walmart for a few items, so after we checked out we were walking toward the exit when I noticed a tall male in his 50's wearing a bright pink top and breast forms and carrying a brown purse, the reason I say he was male is because of the long mustache and goatee and strong male features. We exchanged glances and a slight smile and nod, it was nice to see a sister out and about in Wyoming. I doubt she/he was trying to pass as female but rather as a male with a feminine side.

I occasionally wear feminine tops, jeans and girl shoes, quite often carry my purse and wear makeup but not to Walmart and never with a mustache and goatee but I do applaud her bravery, this is Wyoming after all.

Lexine
08-16-2010, 09:07 PM
Like most people, I don't normally notice any of our sisters around.

One of the very few times that I MAYBE found one of our sisters was this middle-aged man looking at women's clothes with a skin-tight mid-riff, torn shorts, and a pair of Juicy Couture glasses in his hair... but he was en drab! I was so confused!

Also, I was at a friend's birthday party where I met a drunk deaf/mute TS MtF... but she too, was en drab.

...

I guess technically I haven't noticed any of our sisters around :/

NathalieX66
08-16-2010, 09:15 PM
Indeed they are a rare sight.
I can speak of one particular day that I think will never be replicated again:

1. I saw a CD'er leave Glamour Boutique in New Jersey after picking something up.

2. Saw a full-timer walk from the grocery store in my hometown, she in her 70's and wearing a miniskirt.

3. Went to a night club (actually a bowling alley) in Brooklyn and saw a transitioned TS ( in not a LGBT club, mind you).

4. Saw a street musician in a subway station in Manhattan, black skirt & full makeup)...which i gave money to.

all in one day. :)...now that's a precedent!

kynw08
08-16-2010, 10:02 PM
I had one that I wish I could have told why I just smiled on...


I carded a younger sister working at a liquor store. She was scared SHEETLESS of handing that ID over. I motioned her over to my line, asked if she was 21(standard liquor store line). When she handed her ID over, I held it up and checked it, winked at her, and handed it back. She knew she was caught, but was so happy I didn't say anything....

randumbness
08-16-2010, 11:33 PM
I find some at the club my friends normally go to. But it's more fun finding some out in the light. Spotted a fellow sister walking to do laundry in my apartment complex. If I see her again, I'll talk to her.

TS_Denice
08-17-2010, 02:05 AM
I used to work in retail and I would see "sisters" at least once a month. Now I would say they were usually TS and not CD's. I would talk to them as part of my job but I never talked to them about dressing. A few times I really wanted to but I always kept the conversation about business. I remember I had to approve a transaction by checking the ID of a "sister". The ID was male but she was completely passable as a female. I guess she was happy with the way she was treated because the next time she came in she looked for me to help her. Another time I was helping a very passable TS and she started talking about the former Logo show Noah's Arc. She told me how she had met one of the stars. I think I could have talked to her, but again I let it go, kept it all business. Another time I recognized TS porn star Holly Sweet in my store. I never told her I recognized her. Although some of the other employees were wondering if she was a TS I never told anyone I knew who she was. Now that I'm out of retail I do not see nearly as many as I used to, but I'm always looking.

Imogen_Mann
08-17-2010, 02:42 AM
I've seen a few around here. Once you get your eye in, we are pretty easy to spot.

Not making any sort of style comparison, but until I owned a Nissan Micra, I never noticed all the other Nissan Micra's in the town. Then I bought a Volvo... and started to see all the other Volvo's in the town. Being a CD, I've long been noticing other CD's. To each-other, we stand out from the crowd, to a non dresser, we are just another face in the crowd. (unless one is outrageously BAD at dressing).

Dani xo
08-17-2010, 05:05 AM
I was in Chicago shopping at the Payless in Edgewater (in drab) when a sister shopped next to me for about 10-15 minutes. We traded off ideas, she complimented me on some shoes she thought looked good on me, and I did the same for her. Her voice (over-compensating, slightly) gave it away for me.

Haven't had that same success in Louisiana.

Amanda Stubbs
08-17-2010, 05:28 AM
I was in my local social club, in bobmode, when a man came over to me and said;
"Hello !, excuse me, I'm certain we've met somewhere, are you Amanda's friend? I was at a party recently, I'm Lucy's friend." It was a bit of a surprise at first but we soon settled down and had a great laugh together!

Claire Cook
08-17-2010, 06:50 AM
Really interesting post. Perhaps we should turn the question around and ask, "How would you like a sister to react to you if she recognized you as a sister?" I know that when someone acknowledges me (usually a smile form a GG), I feel great.

I remember two instances when I probably should have said something. Once was during a security check and Washington National airport. She had set off the metal detector, and after a check with the body scan, the TSA agent said that she needed a body check. She was asked (correctly enough) if she would prefer to be checked by a male or female. She was clearly uncomfortable with all of this, and I wanted to tell her afterwards how sorry I was that she had to go through all of that, but did not see her when they were through.

The other time was last month in Florida. In the Home Depot parking lot there was a sister with a purse, miniskirt and no boobs or wig. I didn't know whether to smile or nod, so just let her be. I should have let her know that it was cool.

Raychel
08-17-2010, 07:27 AM
I have only seen a couple that I know of, If there were any other that totally passed and fooled me.

Once in Walmart around christmas time there was a VERY tall black person, Dressed as a women, But the voice and the manerism, definitly gave her away, also not a very good job with the makeup.

Another time, at a local discount mall, there was a guy in hot pink shorts, I mean the hooters type of shorts. I must say that he had some big @@@@s to go into the shops dressed like that. Not a very good representative for us. Definitly the lets make some trouble type.

And to all those that I have not seen, Good Job.

PetiteDuality
08-17-2010, 12:53 PM
I've seen a couple for sure. Once was with my family at a Denny's restaurant in Lafayette, Indiana. I didn't notice at first even though she was sitting at a table in plain view of me. When she walked by I notice she was well over 6'. Since we were near to Purdue University, I commented that must be someone from the women's basketball team. My wife said it was a guy. I turned around to confirm while she was at the cash register. No one else seemed to pay any attention to her.



Your wife clocked her, but did not react. Wondering if many people who claims to pass just get indifference, but are actually clocked.

I spotted once at a mall a sister of us. She was middle aged, dressed very conservative. I noticed her because of her lack of hips. I noticed because I tend to observe these details, otherwise I would have not notice her. She was pretty nervous (pretty crowded mall).

My first reaction was to try to follow her to be sure and take a better look. But I scared her. She evaded me (I don't know how), and I lost her.

I'm very sorry for my behavior. It was not on purpose, I did not mean to scare her, but I was very excited for spotting another like me for the first time. Just was a very clumsy reaction of me.

Next time I would leave her alone.

IamSara
08-17-2010, 05:29 PM
Yes I see sisters every now and then. When I landed in Cleveland today there was a Delta pilot that was a sister.
Saw another in the Detroit airplane last week also. So we are around and I guess you just get the knack for seeing each other.
Sarah

coco8132
08-18-2010, 12:37 AM
I was in Edinburgh a few weeks ago, visiting Holyrood Palace. I spotted a transgendered woman. I found her very attractive. I observed her maneurisms, and found her to be very feminine. The tell tale was a masculine build, otherwise, she was very passable. Long brown hair. Loved watching her.Was envious of her.