I have yet to go in public, but wanted to know when I do, and do need to use the restrooms, do I go to the women or men's bathrooms? If i enter the women's bathroom and get "uncovered", will i be thrown in jail? vice versa? thanks
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I have yet to go in public, but wanted to know when I do, and do need to use the restrooms, do I go to the women or men's bathrooms? If i enter the women's bathroom and get "uncovered", will i be thrown in jail? vice versa? thanks
That depends which country and, if the US, which state you're in? :strugglinQuote:
Originally Posted by tgirlinva
See this recent thread for the last discussion of this..
Personally I've never had a problem. But there is a chance if you do, that you could get arrested. In Ohio it's called "Disorderly Conduct." The code is much too long for me to post here. Basically, if you upset a female ("of ordinary sensibilities"). You can be subject to arrest. If I were you, go in get it over with, and don't stay around, in case someone calls the police. One girl here claimes to have been arrested for such an offence.
I've always used the ladies restroom, but be careful and respectful. Most of the time I'll try to go with a GG, and she would probably look after me a little bit. I couldn't imagine using the mens room, this would be more of a problem.
If you're presenting youreself as female, at some point in time you will have to go to the bathroom... I recommend using the ladies. Just rember it's a normal bodily function that everyone has to get done. Keep in mind that you need to do it like a female, ie you don't stand up to pee... Just go in, try not to be paranoid about it, choose a stall and sit down and do your thing. When you're finished, do the things that you would normally do, like washing your hands, check your face or clothes or whatever and depart. I wouldn't recommend getting chatty, unless you're really confident in your voice or unless there's someone you know. Afterall, this is not a place to be picking up chicks, it's a place to get your bidness done and move on.
I found my first experiences to be similar to buying female clothes the first several times. Nervous, self conscious, paranoid... Once you've done it several times, you eventually get over it and it's just old hat.
It depends on the state and country as stated by the above,
Also, it depends on how well your mannerisms and passability and respectfulness, and the enviroment. Try the girls going to the bathroom in comittee thang when you're with yer friends to make it more comfortable in a club or bar atmosphere (which is very informal of course) at first. That makes your more comfortable, and when you got your T down on everythang then you're ready to use it 24 7.
You can't go in there looking a hot mess though.
If your state has backwards legislation cops are evil. They will arrest you. I have been to jail and state prison. It's not a good place to T-girls, transgendered, or even homosexuals.
Where is that, Tessa?
Yeah cops. All of them are evil alright. Especially when you break the law and are caught. :straightface:Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Tessa
As I've been doing a little research on Las Vegas, I understand that you cannot legally use a female restroom if your ID indicates you're male in Nevada. IMHO if you go into a female restroom with another GG you shouldn't have much problem.
Wow... going for a pee can't be such a big deal surely??? OK I guess it helps that in Western Autralia there is no law that segregates female and male toilet facilities and the signs on the door are merely a formality and legally we can use which ever we like. I have to admit though that except at nightclubs I rarely see boys in the ladies and I have never been to the mens since going fulltime.
Seriously though, being arrested for taking a leak?????? I thought the US was supposed to be "the land of the free"?
Cathii
Actually, I just avoid public bathrooms altogether.
I cannot go in the men's room. It scares me, and I'm further scared by an incident my friend had when he left the men's bathroom and got assaulted. However, I refuse to go into the woman's bathroom... It feels utterly wrong.
So, I keep a little thing of that hand sanitizer in the car and take it with me, use it before I eat. :) Much less stress.
Well, you really need to check local laws. 13 states and over 300 major US cities have protected the rights of transgendered people. If you are in a major city, most likely you may use the ladies restroom. Many states don't even have laws regarding this and many businesses are going to Unisex bathrooms to avoid these issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgirlinva
Here in CA it's perfectly legal to use the restroom of the gender you are expressing. In fact, the Los Angeles Sherriff's Department recommends this, as crossdressers may be harassed or physically harmed in the well hidden men's restroom. Just follow etiquette. Go in, take care of your business sitting down with feet pointing the correct direction. "DO NOT STAND TO PEE!!!!!". Also remember that most girls start reeling off the TP as soon as they sit down. Wipe, flush and make sure you left nothing on the seat. If you did wipe it away. Wash your hands and leave. Don't spend a lot of time in there primping, unless you pass flawlessly. Walk with your head up like you belong there and exit with grace.
I have never had any problems and I have been full time for 4 years. Good luck
Love always,
Elizabeth
more like the land of the free as long as you follow the rule's.:tongueoutQuote:
Originally Posted by Cathii
I know I've accidently went into the girl room in male mode b/4 at the end of a long day behind the wheel of my truck, but i've never gotten in trouble for it. I think that like a lot of things that i do that are outside society's norm's here in the US. most of the people just assumed i was gay and left it at that. no big scenes, no pottie police.
Now you tell me... Still, I wasn't male, in Nevada. :whistling:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ami
Eh? Why would a gay man want to use the ladies' room? :strugglinQuote:
Originally Posted by taylor
I was wondering that too. :idontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicki B
you may laugh but i know some gay men that are so afriad of straight men that they refuse the men's roomQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptLex
I'm somewhat more afraid of the reaction of the straight women, honestly. Even as partially-passable FtM, I've been stared at repeatedly and told off once or twice for being in the women's restroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by taylor
Yes. I know butch women (who look pretty clearly like women to me (just masculine), and who *haven't* been taking testosterone) who have been hassled in women's restrooms. Sometimes, butch women get asked to leave the premises for going to the women's room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cai
I've never seen a gay guy in the women's room, but I can't imagine he'd be welcome there.
Hi peeps I've probably on and off but more on using the mens for the past year. I still only use the ones I feel safe in though. I did start getting funny looks off women in the ladies and I started to feel uncomfortable so I made the switch. For the first time a couple of weeks ago some young gay men questioned why I was going into the mens I was well mmmed off!! and they made a big deal of it telling others that there was a woman in the toilets. I thought if they are there when I come out I'm gonna confront them and say it how it is. Luckily they wasn't. It upset me cos its the one place I have felt totally safe. Now I have gone back to asking my gay male friends to come in the loo's with me again so I don't get hassle. It's a bummer cos if ya need to go ya need to go. Its cos my hair is longer than usual and my binders ain't working as well as they was. Just waiting for my new ones. Good luck with this one Hun it's hard I know xx Felix :hugs::hugs:
The unisex bathroom is where I feel most comfortable.
Lanore
Oh for more unisex toilets in this country backwards England lol!!! xx Felix :hugs:
If you are out and about as a woman, don't use the men's room, you might get killed. If you use the ladies room and you look like a guy in drag, you have a problem. If you feel pretty comfortable that you pass as a woman, by all means, us the ladies room. you'll be fine.
I always use the ladies room and have never had a problem.
hugs
Sejd
Ok, well, I am in Iowa .... so there are no unisex bathrooms. I just called the Police station and asked. According to two different officers, it is illegal for a genetic man to use the ladies bathrooms here. The exception, they said, was for a Post-Op transgendered person.
So far I've been out dressed only once (well, for an extended period). That time I lined up for the men's. I did not feel I was "passing" that night, I figured it safer. As it turns out, the bathrooms at this place have only one spot anyhow..... so I could have used either. I'm going out again at the end of the month, so this issue will likely come up again. For me, when I go out, I want to stay out for quite a while and enjoy myself. Hence I cannot expect to "hold it". I really do not think that men will beat you up in a bathroom over a dress. I do not want a screaming drunk woman yelling "get that sickoo man in a dress out of the bathroom"....
In the other thread (mentioned above) there was a similar discussion to this one, I will re-ask a question from there with few answers:
If you have used the women's room, AND you caused some trouble (of some sort) by doing that, how did it go ??
C.
I've always used the womens bathroom. Not once have I had an issue. The only time I have used the mens bath room was when the line at the womens bathroom was way to long.
But yes for safety use the bathroom you are dressed for.
I always you use the Ladies' room and have never had a problem.
Oh what a thrill it is to have to stand in line in the ladies room, but that is the price we pay for wearing a dress. I would never go into the mens room dressed in a dress those nasty boys pee on everything. The last time I was out was to a club which boosts a GLBT crowsd also has many straight folks as well. When I went to the ladies I push the door and almost bumped into a girl standing the "the LINE" waiting. I took my place and waited my turn in fact the girl that came out of the stall looked directly at me and said it's all yours sweetie. I took car of my needs and stepped out to find that room was still packed made my way to the sink and washed my hands, re-applied my lipstick, fluffed my wig and put some hand lotion on as I stepped towards the door. One of the girls waiting in line opened the door for me and said I like your dress. I said thank you and for her to have a fun evening, she repiled you too.
I have learned that you go in like you own the place and if you are thinking that you are doing something wrong no one else will .
I'm full time and I do use the womens restroom everytime. I could never go in the mens restroom at this point. I do, however do what I need to do and get out. I've never had any problems, but of course other states could be different.
In the UK, I believe as long as you have a letter from the medical profession saying you are officially on a program leading to full SRS you can use the ladies. You are very brave or foolhardy going to the gents in a skirt, it can lead to violence or unwanted curiosity.
That was the advice of my GP. I use the ladies, and do not get problems.
I always use the Ladies Room and I have yet to have a problem
Ok, one month later ...
{I am in a state where it is illegal for a genetic male to use the ladies bathroom}
I went out this weekend and used the ladies room without hassles. In fact the women were quite friendly about it. Now, the place was also a GBLT friendly bar, soooo.. I think you have to just judge the place you are in and hope your guess is right. Obviously, if you know another CD with some experience there, ask what is the custom for that venue. This is what I did with the second place and the other CD told me "honey they EXPECT us to use the ladies room". So, even though it is technically illegal here, it is ok in that particular place. YMMV !!
Charlene
I use the ladies room if the location is not a high traffic area, I do prefer the old tree behind the building(kidding) Now the best option is a unisex restroom, if not available follow many of the great tip mentioned.