Tucking/Binding genitals

Okay, MTF transsexual here wondering how she would go about properly binding her genitalia so that unsightly bulge would go away. Kinda got this skirt I really like and I apparently look hot in, according to my girlfriend...

I've got panties... Small low-rise victoria's secret bikini panties, to be specific. They're comfy but my damn unwanted bits just don't seem to want to stay put when I tell them to go away.

I thought about Ace bandages, the thin ones or something... But I really don't know how I'd go about doing that. I'd like to do this with as little fuss and shaving as possible, you know? I mean, I trim and keep the scenery nice (except for the penile eyesore, but that's a given) but regrowing pubic hair is really itchy and annoying. I only put up with it for trimming and stuff. Easy-to-pee methods are better, in my eyes, too... When I gots to go, I gots to go! :P

Yeah, but apparently I'm too... I dunno... To big down there (agh! Nooo~) or something for only panties to work. I've got few ideas and the ideas I do have involve a meat cleaver.

I use a gaff and that's it, or sometimes my lightly padded panties which are rather tight. Holds the tuck without any additional help!!

Love karren

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Originally Posted by OniKoneko

Okay, MTF transsexual here wondering how she would go about properly binding her genitalia so that unsightly bulge would go away. Kinda got this skirt I really like and I apparently look hot in, according to my girlfriend...

I've got panties... Small low-rise victoria's secret bikini panties, to be specific. They're comfy but my damn unwanted bits just don't seem to want to stay put when I tell them to go away.

I thought about Ace bandages, the thin ones or something... But I really don't know how I'd go about doing that. I'd like to do this with as little fuss and shaving as possible, you know? I mean, I trim and keep the scenery nice (except for the penile eyesore, but that's a given) but regrowing pubic hair is really itchy and annoying. I only put up with it for trimming and stuff. Easy-to-pee methods are better, in my eyes, too... When I gots to go, I gots to go! :P

Yeah, but apparently I'm too... I dunno... To big down there (agh! Nooo~) or something for only panties to work. I've got few ideas and the ideas I do have involve a meat cleaver.

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No, no, no!put the cleaver away. Do a search on 'tucking'. I have just been working on an apparatus described at geocities.com/fionaxxcd/contents.htm. Also gives a simple and effective means of taping for cleavage. Wearing the cleavage enhancer right now. Works. Welcome!!

I apologize in advance for my ignorance but...

What the in the hell is a "gaff", exactly?

All I do is push the beans up and flip the frank back and hold it in place with a snug thong or light control panty, gridle, control top panty hose... You get the idea. Works for me no shaving, taping, or binding.

Tight thong works for me....tight thong...also changes my voice......You just have to shop around in stores and not online to find something that has a larger front panel and good elastic on the sides.......I went through the same problem.....

I tuck and wear a gaff under my padded briefs. The result is a more pronouned deriere and no bulge in front. Believe it or not to me it feels more natural too.

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Originally Posted by OniKoneko

I apologize in advance for my ignorance but...

What the in the hell is a "gaff", exactly?

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The best way to describe a gaff is that it is a cross between a athletic supporter and a thong. It is probable where the "G" in G-string comes from. A correct size gaff will make your privates disappear before your eyes but is easily pulled down so you can urinate without much difficulty, of course you are going to have to dig deep and find out where your penis went to down there.

I use a gaff only if I have to, I find them extremely uncomfortable,and if you sit the wrong way..you could hurt yourself. But I guess that a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.

Steph

i don't remember where i got this bit of info, but it's been working pretty well for me.

take a set of stockings (with full waist band, not thigh highs), cut the waist band off and cut a part of the stocking (upper part of the thigh or the waist bit if you want more "area" to work with horizontally (the same direction as the waistband was)

you now should have a waistband, and a "tube" of stocking material (around 3-5 inches wide), feed the waistband through the tube, and put em on like you would panties. (is this even making sense anymore?)

Anyway, at this point, what you have is a super-simple gaff that holds the bits in pretty well using the "tuck" method, and is somewhat breathable and pretty comfy...

I use a gaff as well but only for those "close" occassions such as when I'm wearing tight pants or whatever. When wearing a dress, my padded panty seems to do the job okay. Ericka

I suggest getting a larger than usual gstring and fold your package inside the nice full front. THen pull the string part into your butt and the wear a panty over that . Hold on for pain if u are larger than usual.

Ha.

love ya.
chantelle

This might be hard to explain without pictures. It is actually very simple to make and use. I desinged this method when I wanted to wear a thong bikini. This situation meant that whatever I used it has to be small and concealable. I think this is a great idea, but I'm predjucie ofcourse, since it's mine.

Here goes:

Here is how I do it (briefly):

Start with piece of short fabric (stretchy fabric is best) as wide as your member is long (but not including tip) at rest and long enough to wrap around it.

sew opposite velcro to each end of fabric so when the ends meet it holds itself closed as a tube.

on the exposed top side of fabric sew one more piece of velcro (the rough type) Please do this before putting on! (g)

Now sew the smooth (matching) pice of velcro to the inside of underwear/G string/ whatever.

How to use:

push balls upward into body

while holding in place (this gets tricky) wrap empty sack around member - like a hot dog in a bun.

now, while holding all this and balls in place, wrap fabric around member and sac. use velcro to hold closed. It is important that this wrap is below the ridge near the tip of member. This ridge will keep the "tube" of fabric from sliding off.

you should have balls in your body (pushed up), and member wrapped with velcro. The exposed piece of velcro should be on top. When you tuck your member under, this velcro will face the ground.

Put on uderwear with velcro sewn in. Attach to underwear to hold in tucked position.


The beauty of this method is that with such a small pice of additonal fabric, there is harly anything to show. That is just what I needed when wearing the bikini.

Genifer

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Originally Posted by joanlynn28

I tuck and wear a gaff under my padded briefs. The result is a more pronouned deriere and no bulge in front. Believe it or not to me it feels more natural too.


The best way to describe a gaff is that it is a cross between a athletic supporter and a thong. It is probable where the "G" in G-string comes from. A correct size gaff will make your privates disappear before your eyes but is easily pulled down so you can urinate without much difficulty, of course you are going to have to dig deep and find out where your penis went to down there.

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Actually, I think G-string refers to Government, a reference to the absolute least amount of clothing that a stripper could wear without getting arrested. Similar to G-men.

O...kay... So, where would pictures of these "gaffs" be? I kind of need visuals in order to fully understand what the hell they are.

Anywho... That's a great suggestion, azncd... :P That is, like... Totally affordable and easy, too! I understand what you mean... it is like you use the piece of stocking to split the waistband into a figure-8, and the stocking piece is what keeps your icky bits from getting all over the place.

I assume hand-washing would be necessary for those or something? Gwah, I've never hand-washed anything. I live with un-transsexual-accepting parents, too... So here's an off-topic question to go with my still running collection of bind/tuck suggetions: How would I be able to hand-wash things covertly? I mean, I could probably just take the stuff in the shower with me and wash it with me... But what kind of soap (non-bleach, non-hugenormous bottle) would I use? Better yet, how would I dry the stuff without my parental units figuring out what I was up to?

Agh, the dillemas. Although, that is why I originally joined these forums... To get advice from CDers who know more tricks of the trade than I could hope for. :P I mean, hiding this stuff from your significant other is ages harder than hiding it from your parents, I guess.

Wow, though... A thought just occured to me... A thought of how cute this situation is. :P It's a transgirl asking experienced CDgirls about underwear problems, of all things. It reeks of cute. Ahahaha...

There was a great thread here once upone a time.


Oh yeah first you take the blue elastics off the brocolli, than some tape ......
I luved that thread.

Wow, haven't been on here in a few days and there's another Koneko. We're multiplying!

Like rabbits we multiply...

Anyway, I got a pack of four panties at target today. :P My girlfriend was making fun of me because the smallest size they had was 5 (4 is extra small according to hanes) and I would fit in about size 4 girly pants because I'm what we like to call "a stick". She wears a five, too, so she was like, "There is no way you would wear the same size as me..." because I'm smaller than most people because I have a freakishly fast metabolism...

So, yeah. I got a pack of four panties, as I was saying, and then a thingie of pantyhose. :P I figure that pantyhose are cheap enough to try to make a binder out of them...

By "waistband", azncd, I assume you mean the elasticy bit that goes about your midsection...? Yeah. Let's hope I don't screw this up. :P

I found an older thread that discusses the home made gaff and now I am going to try it out. http://crossdressers.com/forums/printthread.php?t=2143

And for the results...
After following the pictures and example this seems like the most comfortable tuck I have ever been able to get and though this is not perfect for a pair of pantyhose with a run in them it's a good experiment at least.

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Originally Posted by OniKoneko

I apologize in advance for my ignorance but...

What the in the hell is a "gaff", exactly?

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Hi there, a gaff is something like a "jock strap" only better. You pull your bits back and under and then pull the gaff up. It holds you in place especially when panties are worn or pantyhose. I use one and never have had a problem. Go to this site----- Glamourboutigue.com for all your needs, they are cd,ts.tv friendly and will gladly help you.

Hugs;
BonnieAnne

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Originally Posted by older not wiser

Hi there, a gaff is something like a "jock strap" only better. You pull your bits back and under and then pull the gaff up. It holds you in place especially when panties are worn or pantyhose. I use one and never have had a problem. Go to this site----- Glamourboutigue.com for all your needs, they are cd,ts.tv friendly and will gladly help you.

Hugs;
BonnieAnne

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that's http://glamourboutique.com/ I notice bonnieanne has put a g in and it should be a q so I've corrected it for her.

Okay, okay, okay... So after a bit of screwing about with scissors and a mangled pair of pantyhose I bought... I figured it out.

Basically what I had was a normal pair of pantyhose... I cut the waistband off and TRIED cutting a section from the leg, but it was too thin to... urr... not ram itself deep inside of my intestines. :|

So, what I did was... I cut the crotch out of the panty part of the pantyhose, giggling all the while about crotchless pantyhose... And then I used the entire panty part (minus the crotch piece, of course) to make the middly part. It actually works quite nice. :P

I mean, I still have to get used to having something in my ass, but it keeps what I've got down as much as possible. D: I mean... It's not perfect, but then again if it was perfect then I wouldn't need to be binding. I'd probably be all awesome with boobs and a vagina and stuff. :P

Anyway, I didn't sleep to get this done... Because my friend and my girlfriend were like, "You WILL wear your panties tomorrow, young lady!" and I was like, "Eeep! Yes'm!" So hah.

Hopefully this method of binding lasts a while. If it doesn't, though, even about a month of use out of 'em would be nice... They cost about $2.50, so that isn't too terribly much to shell out every once-in-a-while for superb binding goodness.

My new panties, however, are all but useless at keeping me restrained. They're about a size too big. Freaking target had size 5s, but not 4s. Goddess, I still can't believe I need extra-small panties. >.< What the hell?!

I have tried tucking before and have found that I don't have enough to tuck! I don't know if this is a good or a bad thing.

:hugs: Anna x

I think, having read these posts, that I might stick to being a bloke. Y fronts were never this much trouble.
Love
Dalesman

Anna... I apparently seem to have too much to tuck properly. Seriously, it is annoying as hell. With my newly-bootlegged (or pantylegged, as the case is... heh...) bindy gaffy thing, I still have a bit of a bulge. Well, more like a ridgy bulge across my underside. :P

Goddess, I never thought I was big down there. Frankly, I've never cared... Until now, that is. I'm kinda glad I am because, well... More material for the surgeons to work with. More nerve endings for me to have happy fun time orgasms with later on... But I hate it because I don't want one in the first place and because it really sucks when, if someone is really attentive to your crotch (like, OCD levels... like me...) then they can notice... and when I notice things I think everyone else is going to notice them too. D:

*sigh*

O.K., I've read how to do it, I've tried to do it. But don't know if I'm doing it right!:(
Did I incorrectly read somewhere that you just push them back where they came from inside the scrotum? Didn't know that was possible. I also read that you could jump into ice water as a demo on where they shrink to. ( Like hell I will!:eek: )
The buggers just seem to travel between the front muscle and the skin when I push up which just makes a bulge further up the body. Am I doing it wrong or just expecting something that isn't realistic?
Any websites that have demo diagrams? ( Not dirty, just informative please)
Thanks much.

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Originally Posted by Anna_H

I have tried tucking before and have found that I don't have enough to tuck! I don't know if this is a good or a bad thing.

:hugs: Anna x

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then a gaff will work all the better ;)

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Originally Posted by Robertacd

All I do is push the beans up and flip the frank back and hold it in place with a snug thong or light control panty, gridle, control top panty hose... You get the idea. Works for me no shaving, taping, or binding.

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I Also do the same. Works for me!

Double up your pants!! ^_^

it's what I tend to do. Hold's it all in, quite well, without the need for painful gaffa.

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Originally Posted by Stephanie Miller

O.K., I've read how to do it, I've tried to do it. But don't know if I'm doing it right!:(
Did I incorrectly read somewhere that you just push them back where they came from inside the scrotum? Didn't know that was possible. I also read that you could jump into ice water as a demo on where they shrink to. ( Like hell I will!:eek: )
The buggers just seem to travel between the front muscle and the skin when I push up which just makes a bulge further up the body. Am I doing it wrong or just expecting something that isn't realistic?
Any websites that have demo diagrams? ( Not dirty, just informative please)
Thanks much.

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I have the same problem as you do . I too would love some more info on this

I just tuck into a tight thong and so far so good

just suggest putting (beans is cute) back into abdomen

pulling back and wearing tight panties
it gets much easier to hold with practice

eventualy you can even wear a thong without a problem
and - no - size doesn't really matter
In fact, it would seem that the larger, the easier to tuck

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Originally Posted by OniKoneko

Okay, MTF transsexual here wondering how she would go about properly binding her genitalia so that unsightly bulge would go away. Kinda got this skirt I really like and I apparently look hot in, according to my girlfriend...

I've got panties... Small low-rise victoria's secret bikini panties, to be specific. They're comfy but my damn unwanted bits just don't seem to want to stay put when I tell them to go away.

I thought about Ace bandages, the thin ones or something... But I really don't know how I'd go about doing that. I'd like to do this with as little fuss and shaving as possible, you know? I mean, I trim and keep the scenery nice (except for the penile eyesore, but that's a given) but regrowing pubic hair is really itchy and annoying. I only put up with it for trimming and stuff. Easy-to-pee methods are better, in my eyes, too... When I gots to go, I gots to go! :P

Yeah, but apparently I'm too... I dunno... To big down there (agh! Nooo~) or something for only panties to work. I've got few ideas and the ideas I do have involve a meat cleaver.

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I't no big thing I just tuck and my thongs hold it good.

Whatever you end up doing, Hon, be careful. It can be uncomfortable at the very least and extremely difficult when you want to go the the john (jane, whatever). Don't want it too tight either as it could cause damage also if done for too long. Ericka

Hi Tracy, thanks for the correction.(sorry for the misspelling, I was a little rushed at the time)

Love ya
Bonnieanne

As with all things, the more you practice, the better you get. Two weeks ago, I decided that, to do it right, I had to shave everything in the bikini zone. OK, wait a week for the razor bumps to subside! I cut 3 strips of 1" first aid tape, about 7 inches long. Maybe this works for me because my GF claims that she has never seen a tool that can go from over 6" and thick, to less than 1" when cold. I have spent some time in locker rooms, but can't say that I did any analysis.
Anyway, when flacid, I lie on my back, pull my feet up so that the bottoms touch each other, and just let my legs relax to the sides (submissive femme position). Then, I push the Trouble-maker inside himself, and pull the centre of the scrotum up, and fasten everything with the first piece of tape, from back ( just in front of the anus) to front.
With my hands flat (ie, not pointing nor pushing with fingertips), I urge the 'beans' to rediscover their maternal home, one at a time. When they are 'up' and comfy, I apply the other pieces of tape. The tapes need to be fairly tight. Now I have a bulge-free crotch. I am told that oriental martial-arts masters can suck their testes up into their abdominal cavity at will. I believe it. Since I have begun tucking, I have found that, the more frequently I do it, the easier it is. When walking, I practice 'sucking'&#160;them up.
Variations:
1. I have found that large elastoplast bandaids work in place of tape 2 and tape 3, with the advantage that they don't stick to your scrotum.
2. If I have time, I can apply tapes 2 and 3, or bandaids, about 5 mm on either side of the centre tape. This allows me to pull some scrotal skin through, leaving the beans upstairs, creating: tada: labia. (which happen to be very sensitive)
3. pursuant to #2, if you want to create a 'cameltoe' effect, take about 12" of 1/2" or 3/4" tape, start just below your bikini line at the front, stick it until you are right where the top of the v would start. Fold it together (sticky sides in) for an inch or so, and then lift a leg, reach from behind your leg, grab the free tape, folded portion and remaining 5" or so of sticky, pull it as tight as is comfy, and stick it to your perineum and one side of your butt. Voila. Camel toe. Inexpensive, effective, just requires shaving immediatley prio to. enjoy. :) :)

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then a gaff will work all the better ;)

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Thanks Tracy, will bear that in mind.

:hugs: Anna x

This one perhaps ? It is old and perhpas had been modrnised, updated or otherwise rejuvenated ?
http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...ead.php?t=1950

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Originally Posted by Anna_H

I have tried tucking before and have found that I don't have enough to tuck! I don't know if this is a good or a bad thing.

:hugs: Anna x

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I use a Poise pad it works great, and it works with almost any pantie.
Tuck them babies in the sockets and the other thing tuck under neath.LOL
It does work.:)

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Originally Posted by Georgette

I use a Poise pad it works great, and it works with almost any pantie.
Tuck them babies in the sockets and the other thing tuck under neath.LOL
It does work.:)

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Thanks Georgette, will bear that mind too, between you and Tracy you've both given me something to think about. :)

:hugs: Anna x

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Originally Posted by Anna_H

Thanks Georgette, will bear that mind too, between you and Tracy you've both given me something to think about. :)

:hugs: Anna x

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I do this so often that if I don't do it seems like something is out of placeLOL,
Keep them suckers tucked and out of the way.:hugs: :)

How does one put this so my post doesn't get pulled...hmm...

I have been tucking very successfuly with the above-mentioned panty, and I'm not so small. A litte moisturizer between one's legs helps keep down the pain of dry skin pulling on dry skin. Pull the panties almost on, then tuck the boys up in front and pull the (you know what) between your legs. Hold it from the back and use your other hand to pull up the front of the panties, then hold your "you know what" with the panty material from the front while you pull up the back tight. I've stayed tucked like this for hours to the point that I've forgotten that I'm tucked! I regularly wear rather tight jeans (en femme or in drab) and have never had the slightest bulge!

send me a mail if you'd like a more private chat about this.

Tina

I know this is not a conventional method and I don't necessarily recomend it to everyone, but if you NEED a super smooth crotch, this may be helpful (though can be painful.....but only after) First off, it helps to be completely shaved (otherwise it could be VERY painful). I start out with pushing the "boys" back up into their home and to keep them there, I fold the loose skin of the scrotum up and around (like it was said before, like a hot dog and a bun). this I secure with a short piece of duct tape around everything. then, I cut off about a 20" piece of duct tape and secure it right in the center of my abdomen, but low enough to be covered by panties, and continue to stick it to my skin down until about 3/4 of the way to my "tip". I take a makeup remover pad (or any kind of gauze or cotton pad would work) and stick it to the sticky side of the tape so that the tape itself is not sticking to the tip. Once the pad is attached, I pull the tape quite tight and secure it in the back, being careful to allow it to bunch up as if it were a thong between my cheeks (don't allow it to stick to either cheek, you want it more riding up the center). I then take two more pieces of tape and run one on either side in the front but still riding up the center in the back. Then you can wear pretty much any under wear including thongs completely undetectabally. It sounds uncomfortable and the first couple of times it is, but I have worn this for at least 10 hours at a time without ever having to readjust and now I can't even tell i am tucked. When you have to go to the bathroom, simply pull the tape from the back, and assuming the cotton pad is doing its job, the tape will "hinge" there and you can do your business. Then you simply pull it tight again and the tape should restick just fine. Like I said before, its not conventional but it works quite well for me, especially when I wear tight jeans or pants.

DUCT TAPE?! Sweet goddess, even I'm not that crazy. I've been fiddling about with pantyhose and I found an awesome new thingie...

Here's what I do to a single pair of pantyhose... Err, regular pantyhose, mind you. Don't think control top will work here.

Yeah... Extremely longwinded and 90% unnecessary guide coming up... :P

1a) Go to store that has pantyhose.

1b) Find pantyhose in store! :P Duh. Find your size, like you were gonna be wearing 'em. You will, just... Not the whole things...? Ehh.

1c) Pay for pantyhose. Theft can get you in jail, and we all knows what happens when you drop the soap... Laughter. That's right, you'll be laughed at in jail. Oh the humiliation...

1d) Go home. Don't want people to think you're crazy, fiddling with pantyhose in the middle of the parking lot.

2) Dig around your house for a pair of scissors.

3) Go into the bathroom or somewhere you can be naked and fiddling with pantyhose and not get yelled at. Well... I guess you don't have to be naked right away, but I like to be naked... So what? It's fun. I mean, except for the wiggly bits. :P

4a) Open pantyhose box.

4b) Remove pantyhose from box.

4c) Flatten out pantyhose so they aren't all wrinkly and are all pantyhose-shaped instead of ball-shaped.

5) Observe pantyhose. Look at the waistband, first. Look on the inside, to be specific. You should notice a seam where the panty part of the pantyhose was sewn over with elastic or something inside to make the waistband. You will be cutting UNDER this. Very closely, but UNDER it. Be wary of the strings, though. Don't want to ruin the waistband.

6) After locating and identifying waistband, carefully cut it off. Remove all tags from the inside of pantyhose, while you're at it. Those are a pain in the butt, quite literally if you leave them on.

7) Okay, now you've got a waistband. This is probably the most important part of your binder-in-making. Don't lose it or hurt it!

8) Observe the crotch of the pantyhose. Yes, I know. It's weird. Do it anyway. Make sure the pantyhose are FLAT AND STRAIGHT when you are doing this! This means both sides are to be even! Trace a STRAIGHT line with your finger from one side of the panty part of the pantyhose to the other side, passing close over the top of the crotch part. Get it right, because you don't want to mess this part up!

9) When you are ABSOLUTELY SURE of that line, cut across it. You'll end up with a "crotch-and-legs" pair of pa-err... Well... I guess they're just hose at this point... :P Yeah, you end up with one of those and a thick, stretchy bit of pantyhose.

10) This new bit you just made is the crotch of your binder. Thread the waistband through it and leave a loop out on either end. Stick legs in loop, pull up to thighs, tuck, and tighten binder. Voila. That's the basic binder... It's like a thong made out of pantyhose. :)

11) But let's go one step further... Turn to the "crotch-and-legs" bit.

12) Observe them closely. You SHOULD see where the panty part of the pantyhose continues down past the crotch, into the extreme upper thigh. If you do, yay! If you don't, boo. You need to do guesswork.

13) So, poke where the panty part ends and the leg begins. There's a line where the pantyhose gets thinner because the panty part is thicker than normal... Again, make sure your pantyhose are FLAT AND STRAIGHT!

14) Make sure that line is the right line and that the width from top to bottom of that line is almost exactly equal. You want it to be thin, but not thin enough to just randomly break.

15) When you're absolutely sure of that line, cut along it. You end up with a... a... THING... and two pantyhose legs. The thing is your new secondary binder. Wonder how it works? Well...

16) Test your secondary binder! It goes UNDER your main binder, people! UNDER! It's basically the crotch of your pantyhose with around an inch-thick strap of pantyhose leg on either side. Stick your legs in those legs and hike it up.

17) Now, this could be a bit complicated for some people, but it is simple when you get the hang of it. Push your testicles (yes, I use proper terminology as I refuse to baby these horrid things) into their abdominal cavities... or... back from whence they came. :P Now, hold those there with one hand while using your other to hike up your secondary binder. The secondary binder goes OVER your penis and will NOT WORK UNLESS IT IS FIT SNUGLY! This means you pull the strings that hold it onto you up and in. In where? Your butt. It's like a two-string thong.

18) The crotch part of the panties works well to keep your testicles comfortably in your abdomen, while making the resulting bulge less... dramatic. They have room to move around, to some extent, so I've found the normal pain and such from just ramming them in there and binding is significantly lessened... But there is one problem. The secondary binder is fond of slipping so...

19) Put on the main binder you made from the same pair of pantyhose! While you're at it, remark at how the secondary binder not only holds your testicles in place, it also makes your penis point... well... straight down! Note, though, you do pee slower when you've got the secondary binder on. Take your time! :P

20) After the **** is in place and the main binder is on, rejoice! But wait, not too much yet... First, take the strings of the secondary binder and pull them tight again, but pull them INSIDE of the waistband of your main binder... then loop them around the main waistband a few times to make sure your secondary binder doesn't slip down and stays snug.

21) Remark at how utterly smooth your crotch looks now. When I first discovered this, I wore a skirt the very same day. And fishnet tight things... And a pink shirt thing... And boots... With pigtails... Hehehe... That was fun... And comfy!

Well... That's that. That's what I've discovered has worked well and been cheap, so far.

Now I return to wondering how the hell I'm going to wash and dry my clothes and underwear in secret without my parents finding out. ._.

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17) Now, this could be a bit complicated for some people.....................................

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Geez, do you think you've made it simple? And what's with parts 1-4c and half of what follows? Or are you just having a bit of fun here? Tell me, I can't tell.

Dang! -- you need a freakin' editor! Did I happen to mention what I do for a living? I work cheap. :p

I figured it out a while ago, while i was trying to go jogging .I was getting dressed and i did my tuck in reverse....I know, you guys are thinking OUCH :D but i used to push my boys up into the cavity and then put the lever between my legs... one day i put the lever between my legs first and then i pushed the boys in...it even held the extra skin too!!!! which i was so amazed! you can even keep pushing a little bit of the extra skin gently to keep hiding it under the lever. after that i went jogging with skin tight spandex and a thong or just about any type of panties and IT WAS FLAT! It even stayed there while i was wearing string panties! and no need of gaff, tape, or nothing. it works well with bikinis too, but this is what worked for me. You feel a little discomfort at first but then it goes away u get used to it.

Good Luck
Jessica

I SCORN THEIR HATRED IF THEY DO BUT FEAR ME ----- CALIGULA