the worst cd

[Ralph]

1. The person is not all there, mentally ill.
2. The person is deliberately presenting a discordant gender-mix and wants to shock and get attention.
3. The person lost a bet.
I'm open to some other theories.

How about
4. he just dresses however he likes and doesn't give a rat's panties what you or I think?

I don't understand why some people have a problem with that... I would have expected better of the folks here. Why is it an imperative that we look like a woman before we're allowed to wear a bra? Why does a person who freely mixes clothing and gender appearance assumed to be mentally ill?

Interesting how this thread has revealed so much insight into the values held by members. I'm even in total agreement with batty, and that almost never happens!

ralph

[TrekGirl1701]

That person definitely has more courage than me, even if he did just "lose a bet".

If I was a full time CD and everybody that knows me knew that I CD and I was allowed to CD wherever I wanted, I probably wouldn't pass, either. Even in guy mode I'm not even close to what a general well-groomed male should look like. And I'm no fashion expert, either. If that was the look he was going for then good for him. He's being who he wants to be, which is what we all want, too, right?

[Jan W]

This is a strange thread I think.

[Lisa Golightly]

A house divided upon itself...

A shameful and despicable act to commit upon one of your own 'family'.

[Melani]

Being CD is not always about being able to pass, many CD's know they don't pass and don't care. It's not always about "being " a woman its about being in touch with your fem side. Just because a CD dresses in a way you don't approve or has a beard, has nothing to do with it. We all have our way of tapping that something special inside. How dare you judge the way any person expresses themself. Your no different then that ignorant red neck that may judge you one day. You need to think long and hard about how you judge others.

[Sarah...]

How intolerant.

And in relation to a subsequent post to the OP, having a sense of humour but then laughing at someone after they've gone (based on some issues they may be struggling to deal with) are two very different things.

Shame on you.

Sarah...

[Melani]

Ok, for real, ya'll are non-judgmental to a fault. No joke.

I won't laugh at someone who makes an effort, but you people really do go WAY out of your way to make excuses for any ol' crazy who happens to put on a dress. Some people just aren't fit for life in society, this was probably one of them. If not, then they were just dumb or pulling a joke. Whatever the case, if you have no sense of humor about these things, then you need to really step back and grab a big 'ol chill pill.

Whether or not this person was whacked, I don't know, but I've run across my own miserably failed CD, and yeah, I laughed. In their face. I wanted them to know that they were absolutely nuts, and by the time they were done, they had full comprehension of that fact.

Don't waste your breath lecturing me on this, others have tried and failed - I made a whole thread about it some time ago. The fact is that I have no sympathy for these people - anyone who doesn't want to be laughed at makes an effort or takes their meds.

For many Cd's its not about passing or the look, its about what ever helps tap into that something special inside. How dare you be so flippant. By the way I don't feel my breathes wasted calling "you" a "jerk". GET OVER YOURSELF

[subaru_forster]

This is a strange thread I think.

You haven't seen this sort of thread here? In my (relatively) short time on this forum, I've seen the same sort of thing repeated several times (remembering even using language that people should be "drummed out of the sisterhood" for not passing)

It's sad, but "internalized transphobia" such as this is an ongoing thing. At least in cases that are as clear cut as this, it's refreshing to see that the majority of those who respond have a good head on their shoulders when it comes to it.

[Hope]

well i stop at my favorate gas station while i bought my gas something hit my eye it was a very tall cd and he she was dressed so badly as he paid for his gas i know the cashier and he had to keep his laughter under control and i had to do the same after he left we both busted out in laughter and the people there did too he she had on a pink hat a beard a nitted blue sweater and a bra under his sweater it showed it just was a disaster even i can do a whole lot better that that and pass better .all in all we did have a good laugh

I'm glad you are comfortable laughing at people who don't measure up to your standards.

I'm sure you are equally ready to be laughed at.

Talk about transphobia... We cannot expect others to accept us for who we are, until we do it ourselves. For the record, I am ashamed of your behavior.

Interesting how this thread has revealed so much insight into the values held by members. I'm even in total agreement with batty, and that almost never happens!

Yup. And I am agreeing with both Batty and Ralph - a sure sign of the apocalypse... Or how obvious this issue really should be.

[Trip_rockcity]

Having a good laugh at someone else's expense? Just because someone doesn't meet your standards? You know nothing about this person and yet you feel it's okay to join with someone else and ridicule someone who is different from you? Does that cashier know that you cross dress? I wonder how amused they would be with that? You missed a perfect opportunity to teach someone a little something about tolerance. How about a little compassion, dear?

On the spot there Holly.. Dude your a bit of a plank really.. even in guy mode.. if i saw u do that i would of given u a huge verbal slap..

[VeronicaMoonlit]

Ok, for real, ya'll are non-judgmental to a fault. No joke.

Not me, I'm probably one of the more judgemental people around here, when I get riled up anyway. And I've seen transpeople with all kinds of presentations.

But I don't laugh, because, in addition to reasons 1-4 already listed:

#5. Perhaps they just haven't been dressing long and haven't developed their shopping, fashion and makeup skills yet. You see, that person getting laughed at might become that gorgeous CD everyone tells how pretty she is someday. I know it happens.

And I sure as heck don't want people laughing at my fashion faux pas, rather than actually having constructive ways of improvement or other suggestions.

Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.

[Deborah Jane]

You didn't need to get involved with the laughter and p*ss taking, if you couldn't bring yourself to defend this person, you should have just walked away!!

[Tal'Aura]

...and he had to keep his laughter under control and i had to do the same after he left we both busted out in laughter and the people there did too...

Jolan Tru,

I would expect such behaviour from some puberty teenager, not from such old grandpa like you. I can only echo what those below have already said... This only proves my belief that our biggest enemies are among us.

[Carole Cross]

Why do people who are too afraid to post pictures of themselves or are ashamed of their 'secret' laugh at those who choose to embrace who they are and probably don't care what others think? Are you so insecure, that it makes you feel better by ridiculing others or, are you afraid of getting others laugh at you if you are found out?
You should at least be supportive of one of your own.

[Anna the Dub]

I would've made it a point to say to the cder: 'Hiya, nice day isn't it?' or something to that effect.

[Nicki B]

Ok, for real, ya'll are non-judgmental to a fault. No joke.

Perhaps because judging others opens yourself up to being judged poorly, too - just as you have done.

[RylieCD]

I won't laugh at someone who makes an effort, but you people really do go WAY out of your way to make excuses for any ol' crazy who happens to put on a dress. Some people just aren't fit for life in society, this was probably one of them.

HARSH - This could be any / all of us. Many os us come to this site fir the support of others, because we feel like we dont fit into society in either mode. and now we have someone who we would have like to have leaned on CONFIRM it, Im sorry you can put on a dress and be someone so different that society accepts you, for many others it is not that easy and we need the help and support from you, who have been through the same experiences and feelings.

[Lisa Golightly]

Whatever the case, if you have no sense of humor about these things, then you need to really step back and grab a big 'ol chill pill.

Don't waste your breath lecturing me on this, others have tried and failed - I made a whole thread about it some time ago. The fact is that I have no sympathy for these people - anyone who doesn't want to be laughed at makes an effort or takes their meds.

I've read before that you consider you may be TS... That's what a whole lot of society thinks about us... Careful for what you wish.

[O2B Barbara]

While I agree with a lot of the intent, as I see it, in the posted replies, wouldn't it have been a bit nicer to soften the delivery a little bit?

A lot of people yelling at me only makes me want to run and hide, those same people gently talking to me and trying to help me understand makes me want to learn and grow and share hugs. Also helps me to feel like a member of the family and cared about.

[danam]

While I agree with a lot of the intent, as I see it, in the posted replies, wouldn't it have been a bit nicer to soften the delivery a little bit?

I my last thread I got yelled at so much I could barely log on any more. Lots of pent-up anger on this forum, which comes out in surprising and unexpected ways.

I agree with the original poster that it can be humorous to see someone make a drastic fashion error. The spirit of the message was in fun. Why turn it into something so awful and serious and a big downer?

[TSchapes]

Having a good laugh at someone else's expense? Just because someone doesn't meet your standards? You know nothing about this person and yet you feel it's okay to join with someone else and ridicule someone who is different from you? Does that cashier know that you cross dress? I wonder how amused they would be with that? You missed a perfect opportunity to teach someone a little something about tolerance. How about a little compassion, dear?

I agree Holly. And I've always wondered how many of our own CD community will laugh along with their friends or strangers when they spot a transgendered person in order to cover up their own cross-dressing ways.

How someone is dressed, is not the issue.

-Tracy

[Celeste]

Whenever I see a thread like this i think,why would someone with such a low tolerance of others ,choose to cd in the first place.Do they not grasp that its about ones freedom of expression no matter what that may be.

No one wrote the book on dressing or passing and my interpretation of it is only mine alone.I hope one day you get laughed at and then remember how you treated this person.

[TGMarla]

I know I already replied, Joann, but the more I think about your comments, the more they really chap my ass. Who the hell do you think you are, anyway? Are you so much that you have the right to get all critical on someone else who's own personal circumstances you know nothing about? You have absolutely no idea where this person was coming from. If it's a guy who's openly mimicking and making fun of CDs, then the high road is to hold your head high and ignore him. If it's another CD who simply cannot pass, and therefore does not try very hard, then have some empathy and try to understand her pain.

But no. You laugh, make fun at his/her expense, and then have the audacity to tell everyone who disagrees with you to stuff it.....because of course, you know you're right, huh?

Such unmitigated arrogance. Let's see how well you pass? Where's the pics, honey? You're so much. Let's see!

I'm so glad you got a good chuckle out of the whole thing.

[Joni Marie Cruz]

Oh wow, I was so going to stay out of this but I just can't. It so puts me in touch with my inner bitch. Let's start out with you Kathryn, honey. I checked out your pix. Where in the world do you get off deriding someone else? Aren't there any shiny surfaces where you live? If there are, have a look. You sure ain't all that and a bag of chips sweety. I'm betting you have never been out in your life and if you have you probably got more than a few people rolling on the ground.

Hey, Joann. Let's see some pix of you. How about it.

-Joni Mari

[karynspanties]

I would not have laughed....because it's not funny, but the person that went out like that......brought it upon themselves and as far as I am concerned, and I do not care who I tick off on this forum, when you go out looking like that, you are undoing everything everthing we are trying to do. What I mean is, trying to gain acceptance. Pretty hard to do when you look like a clown.
Just my If we want acceptance and not to be ridiculed, then we should TRY AND BLEND IN RATHER THAN LOOKING LIKE FOOLS IN PUBLIC!!! I have seen individuals out like this and it does not make me want to laugh.....it makes me mad!! It's like going on stage after a bad act. Nice.

You know?? I just wonder how many of you, if you would have witnessed this individual, would have put yourself out there and went over a told that person that you understood where they were coming from and gave them a big hug? I bet not many of you would. I bet you would have looked, been very embarassed by this person and just walked away. Be honest with yourself and everyone else here.

Me smells alot of hipocrasy.