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    What is wrong here?

    I have been building a CD blog for shopping and, in the process of doing that, I have been compelled to follow a great many CD/TG links. Why, oh why do the majority of them end up in porn sites? Have we, as a community, established this kind of image to the world? I hope not. I would rather think that there are a lot of people out there who are trying to make money off the lonely and troubled folks of the world. But, the porn stuff just infuriates me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathytg View Post
    I have been building a CD blog for shopping and, in the process of doing that, I have been compelled to follow a great many CD/TG links. Why, oh why do the majority of them end up in porn sites? Have we, as a community, established this kind of image to the world? I hope not. I would rather think that there are a lot of people out there who are trying to make money off the lonely and troubled folks of the world. But, the porn stuff just infuriates me.

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    Quite honestly I see nothing wrong with the porn...
    I don't honestly think it really sends any real message about us as a group, but the fact that 80% of the internet consists of porn, says volumes about human nature and the drive to procreate. Sex is the driving force of civilization after all.

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    Where there's a buck to be made, the porn industry will exploit it, and make a lot of money doing so. Over 50% of the entire internet is related to porn, a statistic that really doesn't speak well of civilization. But it is what it is. We, as humans, are sexual creatures. And porn in all its forms, from beauty pics to animal sex sites, sells.

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    Yeah, what Niya said. Try typing in just about any word that describes a group of people (men, women, gay, straight, bi, Asian, black, white...) and you'll get porn sites.

    On the one hand, I'm glad there are so many different sexual tastes in the world. It means that no matter who you are there's someone who thinks you're attractive just the way you are. But on the other hand, the sleazy porn sites have really gotten out of hand, and it's sad.

    I don't believe in censorship (except for protecting children, of course). I can't really say objectionable crossdressing porn will disappear if there ceases to be a market for it, because we are probably not the ones creating the market... so it would be silly to tell "us" to stop buying it. All I can say is that we must fight negative stereotypes with education. We need to let the public see that CDs, transgenders etc. are really decent people.
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    I mostly agree

    For my own purposes, searching the web for CD relevant topics does too often end at a porn site.
    And I agree with the assessment that this trend is part of the battle we fight within society... it only feeds the cultural stereotyping we all struggle with.

    And to further a point, yes - type in just about any human quality and it will lead you to a porn site.

    However, there is a preponderance of porn within our category; compared to broader terms. Black, asian, handicapped, retired are topics that will bring you a mix of results. Specify Crossdressing and the great majority of hits will be porn related.
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    Hi Cathy-

    I don't know what's wrong either, or if it's actually wrong at all, it just seems to be human nature to exploit sexuality in all its various manifestations. But when I come out to someone who genuinely seems interested in finding out more about TG people, I explicitly warn them that if they do a search on the internet (where else would they go nowadays?) that they better be prepared for a bunch of pix of chix with dix porno sites (sorry to be crude) and not for a minute to believe that that is what the TG community is all about.

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    Porn is everywhere.

    Not targeted just towards crossdressing but to all other types of human alive.

    I would say that porn is what made the internet commercially viable.
    Without it, the worldwide spread may not have been achieved so easily and so quickly.

    The worst bit about porn is when it is marketed to you (either as junk mail or as an online ad) when you are not interested.

    If I wanted to look at porn, I would soon find it - easy enough on the net now.

    If trying to explain to someone what crossdressing is about, wouldn't it be a good idea to tell them about the information on this forum.
    This forum alone should suffice as to anyone who wants further information on the subject. Plus there is no porn here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne66 View Post
    I don't believe in censorship (except for protecting children, of course).
    And animals.

    Everybody has their own thing that gets them off. As long as it isn't hurting creatures against their will, I respect whatever the fetish or turn-on may be. Everybody's different.

    But, unfortunately, the TG community along with others have yet to gain respect from the general society. Therefore, cispeople who don't know much about transpeople are only associating them with what they see; mainly MtFs being treated like sex objects. They ignore the gender identity and think we do it all for a sexual thrill. In short, we get misread and misrepresented. (Well, maybe not so much me. More the MtFs. I'd be more appreciated at NAMBLA. )

    I also think the over-representation of porn these days, although porn itself does serve a purpose and should have its own niche, is cheapening the meaning of sex. It's about intimacy, not making a dollar or going into it for only your own pleasure. Some people do feel this way, and that's fine, but the saturation of it all is brainwashing new generations of kids who don't know how to value sexual interactions outside of a dollar sign.

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    This board wasn't without porn when it was first opened, it had an adult section, pictures you wouldn't show your mother... and all sorts of awful stuff... But over the years, new staff, new rules, it's all gone I think people join hoping to see that kind of stuff here, sadly, they are mistaken.... we don't have no porn here I don't mind it at all, but that's not what we're about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara Croft View Post
    This board wasn't without porn when it was first opened, it had an adult section, pictures you wouldn't show your mother... and all sorts of awful stuff... But over the years, new staff, new rules, it's all gone I think people join hoping to see that kind of stuff here, sadly, they are mistaken.... we don't have no porn here I don't mind it at all, but that's not what we're about
    I'm really happy that this place has since gotten rid of that stuff. I wouldn't have joined, otherwise, because I would have figured you were just another superficial site.

    By the by, I'm assuming we have these "free CD chat!" advertisements (which appear a bit sexually-intended, though don't blatantly say so) to keep the board running? Like, revenue comes in that way? I've always been meaning to ask about that...

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    Yes the big boss owns that (not admin, the bigger boss lol)... we just link it here, we are not affiliated with it, I personally don't like it... maybe I need to smack the bigger boss or get my out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara Croft View Post
    Yes the big boss owns that (not admin, the bigger boss lol)... we just link it here, we are not affiliated with it, I personally don't like it... maybe I need to smack the bigger boss or get my out
    We have an even bigger boss? *tucks his shirt in*

    But yeah, if I can speak freely, the linking to that site was the one thing that made me second-guess joining here. But when I looked through random threads, everything else seemed cool.

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    You don't have a bigger boss, Sharon, Zen and I are your boss, admin is our boss and the big boss is his boss... (but they don't scare me )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara Croft View Post
    You don't have a bigger boss, Sharon, Zen and I are your boss, admin is our boss and the big boss is his boss... (but they don't scare me )
    That's a scary hierarchy. Big Boss is so big that they don't even have a name...

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    I think any topic on the internet that is somehow linked to sexuality will have a lot of porn content associated with it as it is the largest industry on the internet.

    It's how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze View Post
    That's a scary hierarchy. Big Boss is so big that they don't even have a name...
    We'll call him Bob Admin is Charlie (not really Charlie lol).. so big boss, we'll call him Bob... and I think we just hijacked this thread... and I think we'll get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara Croft View Post
    We'll call him Bob Admin is Charlie (not really Charlie lol).. so big boss, we'll call him Bob... and I think we just hijacked this thread... and I think we'll get

    I swear it was for good reason! But yes, I'll be quiet now.

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    I'm just glad their is no porn on this site.

    I have a reputation to keep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara Croft View Post
    You don't have a bigger boss, Sharon, Zen and I are your boss, admin is our boss and the big boss is his boss... (but they don't scare me )
    More likely you scare them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelly Preston View Post
    More likely you scare them
    You say that like it's a bad thing
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    I second what Emma said. As far as the no porn part. If I want porn there's more than a sufficiency of it out there, I'm glad there isn't any here.

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    I'm just glad their is no porn on this site.

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    Sex..or procreation is a basic instinct. All animals are generally driven by need for food and need to procreate....Thus the reason for so many unfortunate stray dogs and cats (i digress). Are we not also animals or have we fooled ourselves with our society and social morals that we now look down upon and degrade those who submit to their natural animal instincts. Why else is the world human population now exceeding 6 billion persons. If we don't quite screwing around...we're not going to have room to breath!!!~!

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    Tamara I'm glad there is no porn. That is why I'll stay and I like the posts

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    Well, it's not about sex, it's about respect.. Because of CD "admirers", there are those nasty sites out there that cater to them. And, of course, reflects back down to us, and when the general public sees these disgusting sites, it affects us..

    Oh dear lord.. I hope it never gets to the point where typing in "crossdresser" into gooble gets you nothing but sex sites... Think about wives finding information, or others trying to figure themselves out. I highly doubt it would get that bad, but you do never know
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