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    What Happens in Vegas, . . .

    Wow, what a fun week! From shopping last Monday to tonight. It has been a blast!

    Today, I was really bold. I showed two relative strangers my picture as Kathi. The first was a local girl helping us with the trade show crowd. She would help with scanning badges, handing out raffle tickets and pointing questions to the correct geek (usually me). She seemed so very nice and we hit it off great.

    I asked her what she did last night, and she said that her and a friend were going to go to the Divas Las Vegas drag show, but never made it. For some odd reason, insanity possessed me, and I blurted out how cool that would have been, and that I had even dressed up as a woman in the past. That piqued her interest - and not just raised-eyebrow interest, but full-on "tell me more!" interest. I told her that I'd been doing it for years, and even had a picture or two, if she wanted to see. She was definitely interested, so I showed her the usual Kathi Pics - the one with the herringbone skirt and black ruffled top, the one in the black and white gown (you all know the ones). When she saw the first one, she looked me over, looked at my iPhone, looked me over again and said, "Wow. You are a very pretty woman. Look at your body! After two kids, I'm jealous!" I smiled and laughed and said, "Well, what else is a skinny guy like me supposed to do with a body like that?"

    Through the course of the day, she kept asking to see the pictures again, and complimenting me on how realistic and convincing I was, and asking lots of questions, like "What does your wife think? Do your kids know and what do they think? Do your friends know? Do you want to be a woman - because you look so feminine in this?" and others. I told her about my oldest finding out, what my wife thought about it, and how some friends felt. I told her that sometimes I slipped while talking, with either a bit of knowledge that I shouldn't know, or said something I shouldn't.

    Overall, it was a very positive experience. Granted, I'll probably never see this woman again, but I'd like to think that I made a positive impression on her. She sure led me to believe that was the case with her attitude and her words on how cool she thought it was. As my BS detector never went off (and it is really sensitive!), I think she was telling the truth.

    The next woman was a former Miss Nevada. She was in a booth that was usually crowded with people getting their picture taken with her. It was near lunchtime, and there was no one around, so I wandered over. The first thing I noticed (OK, the 13th or 14th ), was her shoes. Without thinking (my usual mode of operation), I blurted out, "Oh my gosh, cute shoes! Those are from bebe, right? They're soooo comfortable, aren't they! After a second or two of awkward pauses from each of us, she smiled (dazzling!) and said that they were from bebe, and that I was right, they were comfortable. We talked more about how even though they were so high, that the platform made it easy to walk in, and as many pageants as she had been in, she knew a lot about walking in heels. I said that I agreed, they were very easy to walk in. She said I had great taste in shoes.

    I then said, "You're probably wondering why I know so much about this stuff." I then pulled out my iPhone and showed her my favorite Kathi picture. She said, "She's gorgeous! Who's that?" I said to look again. She looked again, and looked back at me blankly. I said, "It's me!" She could not believe it. She took my iPhone and looked closer, looking back and forth between me and the picture. "Wow, you're incredible! Is this a glamour shot?" I told her that no, I did the hair and makeup myself. She said that I could enter pageants, looking like that.

    I then said I loved her dress. She said it also was from bebe, and that she had gotten it on sale for only $24.00 (if you know bebe, you'll know that that is a great price!). We talked more about how we loved bebe, and she said that I should get the dress, and that it would look beautiful on my long, slender body. I thanked her for her compliments and said that I did indeed love dressing that way. She agreed, and said that what I did was just another persona, just like when she glammed herself up, she was another persona. "The pushup bra for the boobs, the hair, the makeup, the clothes and shoes, it's just one part of me, just one part of being a woman, just like you dressing up and letting the part of you that's a woman shine out." Wow, I wanted to hug this woman.

    She then said with a smile, "So girl, do you have a boyfriend? I'll bet he loves that body of yours!" I told her that I actually had a wife. She looked confused. "You mean a wife wife? Like a woman? You're straight? Wowwwwwww! Sorry, but all during this time when we were chatting, you seemed so, . . . you know, girly. Wow. As pretty as you are, that must be hard on her. I told her that it was hard on my wife sometimes, and that I still tried to be the man she married. She said that her husband had long, gorgeous hair down to his lower-back, but was definitely a man's man. I said so was I - sometimes.

    I said goodbye and she said "It was nice chatting, girlfriend!" Off I went, floating back to my booth. When I got there, I told the girl helping out about my conversation. Later, Miss Nevada passed by my booth, along with a guy with long, black hair (her husband, I'm sure). She saw me, smiled, and gave me a hello and a wave. The other guys in the booth said, Wow, you know her or something. I said, "Or something" with a smirk. The girl and I traded smiles at his. "She seemed pretty friendly with you. I wish she'd be friendly with me" they said with a laugh. I just said that I guess I had a womanly way, or a way with women - something like that."

    Life hands us many opportunities. You have to be ready to grab those opportunities. Swallow your fear. Don't listen to the voices telling you that you can't do it. Just get out there and do it.

    Anyway, after I pack to get out of Vegas, I'll post more about my night tonight!

    Kathi
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    Hey Kathi, great post. A whole week in Vegas, cool. Gadgets trade show? A company I worked for for 15 years we did an annual fun trip but only 3 days, in those years we did 10 trips to Vegas, had a blast.

    So true about fears, whether CD-public or just life stuff, we get all warped out about stuff and then when we do it, no reason for the pre-stress and worry. Great people you had chance to get to know.

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    heh, i was in vegas from wed-friday. Stayed at the Excalibur. Wasn't there for CES or anything, just a little vacation. Ended doing alot of shopping, fun trip overall, my first time there. And i won more money than i lost so win win!

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    Sounds like a great time Kathi, Thanks for sharing it with us.
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    do not eat the food at the excaliber. I got bad food there, never been that sick in my life, don't even wish it on my ex.

    but great story, if no wife sounds like you could have had a couple great dates.

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    What a fun post-script to your Vegas adventures. And you describe everything so well that we feel like the proverbial fly on the wall.

    It's wonderful to find acceptance in unexpected places. Yes, you are brave to share as you did, trust me, it doesn't always come out so rosy but quite often it's just as you describe... intrigue, curiousity and genuine "live-and-let-live" attitudes prevail.

    So perhaps in fond remembrance of your adventures upon returning home you will find yourself having that little talk and booking a return trip in April!!!

    (mischievious, aren't I???)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sara Jessica View Post
    (mischievious, aren't I???)
    Ever and always, SJ. Ever and always.



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    Someone get some rope so we can tie it around Katti's ankles to keep her from floating away!!!!

    Feels great doesn't it girl!!!! LOL
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    Stays In Vegas . . . . ?

    Kathi,
    Your not only beautiful, but can write too . . . I also go their once a year for a trade show/convention. Always wanted to go out dressed their. So one time, couple of years back Went their for a "fun"only trip. Met my casual "gg" friend their. We made a great visual pair for the tourists she is kind of short, and black, and me a taller white male CD'r. One day we went down to Fremont street, me being dressed her normal. Had a bunch if requests to have my pic taken with straight couples lots of questions from people and more. Some lesbian couples were very nice. As it got later and the booze was starting to take affect some guys started to "heckle" me so decided better get the hell out of their . . . . As we walked to or car I was looking behind my back!!!
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    Kathi -- How do you do it? A Miss Nevada no less. I just guess that beautiful people are attracted to beautiful people.
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    Kathi,

    Thanks for sharing that wonderful story. I think I speak for allot of is that we desperately want to be accepted and be able to tell "someone" our secret. You were able to bond with two people and have two very wonderful experiences and also educate people.

    Way to go and I am so glad you had a wonderful time.....at work no less!

    My best,

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    Kathi,

    Are you sure you're not twins? You have way too much fun for one girl!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathi Lake View Post
    She agreed, and said that what I did was just another persona, just like when she glammed herself up, she was another persona. "The pushup bra for the boobs, the hair, the makeup, the clothes and shoes, it's just one part of me, just one part of being a woman, just like you dressing up and letting the part of you that's a woman shine out." Wow, I wanted to hug this woman.
    Brilliant! Best analogy ever!

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    When I saw your name on a post I thought "Do I have time to read a Kathy Lake Post?" You always have a long multi post , or as I call it "TEH DAM TESSING POST THAT IS LIKE A CLIFF HANGER" I hate cliff hangers when there like your posts you need to see or hear what else happened. I have done the "pull out the I Phone to show GGs my Pic and had the same reaction. The big difference between you and I is your thinner and prettier then me. My transformation is extreme cuz of my size and yours is cuz...Well I think cuz your from Utah I guess. LOL. Na I think cuz you look skinnier dressed then in drab. Men's clothes are for the most part shapeless, where women's is shapely. I just wish I could have a weekend in SL to go shopping with you some day. I don't get through there much anymore but if one day I know I have a weekend well....... Up to you hun.

    Great story hun keep them coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherriePall View Post
    Kathi -- How do you do it? A Miss Nevada no less. I just guess that beautiful people are attracted to beautiful people.
    No Sherrie, it's not a "beautiful people pairing with beautiful people" kind of thing. It's more of a "I'm much too brainless to know when to shut up" kind of thing. It's confidence - plain and simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    Kathi,

    Are you sure you're not twins? You have way too much fun for one girl!
    No, but I'll tell you of my adventure with the twins later. Right now it's time to board.

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    Ms. Nevada. I am sure she was approaching you for pointers girl!

    Cracks me up no matter what the conversation comes back to fashion. I bet you are heading to Bebe the next trip out to find that dress in your size.

    Thanks for the post and I am so glad that you had a ball in Vegas!
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    Very cool!

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    Kathi..

    What a great experience and what a fun way to share it with us. I'm actually looking forward to my week in Vegas next Jan 17. I hope I have a beautiful story to tell...

    Thank you for sharing.

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    Wow, what a long week and a very long day!

    After a lovely flight from Las Vegas to Salt Lake, I drove myself to work, where I still am past midnight. I have to get this stupid app compiled so my guys in China can test it during their Monday (I'm running out of time!!). Sigh.

    In the middle of my usual "compile, get errors, fix errors, compile" cycle, I decided to write my adventures of today. Why not, eh?

    First, I left my maid a note with a $10.00 tip saying "Thank you so much for all the little things you did - organizing my makeup on the counter, ignoring my bras, skirts, and all of my other clothes thrown around the room, and basically making me - a boy who likes to dress like a girl - feel welcome."

    Feeling extra adventurous, I decided to wear my lace cami under my black shirt, hoping that the straps wouldn't show through. I also gave myself a spritz of Burberry Brit perfume. As I made my way to the convention center on the monorail, I made sure that my button was undone and my laptop bag "inadvertently" opened my shirt up enough so that the lace was showing. I then looked to see who noticed. It was funny to watch the expressions as they glanced at my face, my chest, back to my face with widened eyes, and, occasionally, a smile.

    While walking the show floor later in the day, there was a lady in the Ed Hardy booth with huuuuuge, . . . tracts of land in a very skimpy bikini and very cute shoes. After waiting for the throng of admirers to get their picture taken with most likely the first "real girl" they've ever been near, I told her how cute her shoes were and asked if they were from bebe. She brightened immediately and said, "They look like bebe, don't they? I actually got them for about half their price." She told me where she got them and how much she paid. I told her that at that price, they definitely weren't bebe! We chatted for a bit, with the guys around us getting nervous/impatient. I'm sure they were thinking, "Come on, you two girls, stop gabbing about cute shoes and lemme take my picture!" She smiled at me, gave me a hug and said, "Thanks for talking with me. You are so super sweet!" Then she quietly added, "It's just what I needed after getting mauled all day." Aww shucks. That's me - the Boy Scout.

    Earlier this week, I mentioned the set of ladies we hired, I think. They are both 23 and drop-dead gorgeous! I figure that I had told every other woman in the booth, so why not them? They were wearing some thigh-high white high-heeled boots, and I have been commiserating with them on how hard it must be to wear heels and walk around so much. Today, I said, "You know, I wish that I could wear heels here in the booth. I think the difference in shoe height would help my aching feet." They laughed, agreed and said they would be more than happy to let me trade shoes with them. I said that they probably wouldn't fit and they asked me what size shoe I was. I told them that I was usually a 9 1/2 or a 10 in women's, depending on the style of the shoe. Their eyes got big and they said, "How cool! You wear women's shoes? We have a friend who is the same size shoe as us, and even clothes too, and we got to dress him up a few times. He really made a cute girl, but he didn't have as much fun as we did." I told them that that was a shame, and that if they were to dress me up, I would promise to have fun. I then pulled out my iPhone and showed them my picture. One of them took the phone, brought it close, studied the image for a moment and said, after I convinced them that it was me, "You are so pretty! That's really you? Look at your poise and the way you're standing! You've done some modeling, haven't you? We can tell." I tried to convince them them that the only modeling that I had done was building model cars. They said that a lot of girls would be very jealous of my body. We talked about it for a bit, them asking me the standard questions, and then, of course, the gabfest devolved into fashion and makeup - where to get the best deals on shoes, what their favorite eyeshadows were, etc. (Yes, Suzanne, we talked about clothes and makeup. Is that so wrong? ). The other one said, "You get really happy when you talk about this stuff, don't you? Isn't it fun being a girl?" I agreed that it was a blast. Hair, makeup, clothes - the whole shebang. They still wanted me to have their shoes and even their micro-miniskirt. They said with my legs, they'd look great on me. Plus, they said all they were going to do with them was scrawl their thoughts on them of how much they hated them and burn them.

    After our long chat was done and I got some great hugs from the girls, the other guys in the booth came up to me and said, "Wow, that was a long talk. You guys sure looked like you were having fun. What were you talking about?" I just said, "Oh, you know - just some girl talk" with a smile. They asked me what my secret was to attract all these hot women. Although it would be fun to tell them the truth, I just said, "I guess I'm just on their wavelength. Plus, to impress a woman, simply show them that you value them as a person, not as an object. They respond to that - the pretty ones especially, since everyone else treats them as less then human, it seems." I don't think they understood that (or wanted to understand it). Ah well. I guess they're doomed to unfulfilling relationships. Pity.

    Woo hoo!! everything finally compiled! Time to send this puppy off to China and head back to my wife and a familiar bed. I hope you enjoy me telling just a small portion of my adventures in girliness. It's a fun life!

    Kathi
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    Dang Kathi, I cant believe I missed seeing you there in Vegas, I was staying at the Hilton there on Paradise, where all the electronics show geeks were, I was dressed as Vivian the whole time I was there. Wish I knew you were there,

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    I am still shaking my head. You are definately a leader in being relaxed with yourself. And what's this about having fun? Aren't trade shows suppose to be 20 hours of work a day and no time to relax?

    Glad you had a good time!

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    Hi Kathi,

    Too bad I missed you. I'll be in Vegas tomorrow through Friday. A short visit to my sisters but I'm staying at the Imperial Palace. I can hardly wait to get there and change clothes. My first time "staying" dressed, hopefully most of the week. I'm actually hoping to come out to my sister and her husband. We will see how that goes. They're actually pretty open so I think it should go well. Wish me luck. I hope to have a great time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianann View Post
    Dang Kathi, I cant believe I missed seeing you there in Vegas, I was staying at the Hilton there on Paradise, where all the electronics show geeks were, I was dressed as Vivian the whole time I was there. Wish I knew you were there,
    Dang! Sorry Viv. We would have had fun shopping. Next time!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sue View Post
    I am still shaking my head. You are definately a leader in being relaxed with yourself. And what's this about having fun? Aren't trade shows suppose to be 20 hours of work a day and no time to relax?
    Nah. I wouldn't go with the "leader" label. Remember, there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity. Yeah, I've done things classified as brave (and have the medals to prove it ), but sometimes, doing what I do and taking the risks I take with my dressing, I wonder which side of that line I'm on. As for the show, yes it is exhausting - especially as I'm a people person. As I told people at the show, they brought me because I speak fluent geek, but am still great with people. But no matter how exhausted I may get, nothing is gonna make this girl stop shopping!

    Quote Originally Posted by Darylin View Post
    Hi Kathi,

    Too bad I missed you. I'll be in Vegas tomorrow through Friday. A short visit to my sisters but I'm staying at the Imperial Palace. I can hardly wait to get there and change clothes. My first time "staying" dressed, hopefully most of the week. I'm actually hoping to come out to my sister and her husband. We will see how that goes. They're actually pretty open so I think it should go well. Wish me luck. I hope to have a great time.

    Darylin
    Darylin, I do indeed wish you luck. Sort of. Here's the deal; you are empowered to make your own luck. If you want to have a good time, don't just hope for it, do it! Get out there with your head held high and have fun. The rest of the world will follow.

    Please let us know how it goes - especially with your family.

    Kathi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathi Lake View Post
    After our long chat was done and I got some great hugs from the girls, the other guys in the booth came up to me and said, "Wow, that was a long talk. You guys sure looked like you were having fun. What were you talking about?" I just said, "Oh, you know - just some girl talk" with a smile. They asked me what my secret was to attract all these hot women. Although it would be fun to tell them the truth, I just said, "I guess I'm just on their wavelength. Plus, to impress a woman, simply show them that you value them as a person, not as an object. They respond to that - the pretty ones especially, since everyone else treats them as less then human, it seems." I don't think they understood that (or wanted to understand it). Ah well. I guess they're doomed to unfulfilling relationships. Pity.

    Woo hoo!! everything finally compiled! Time to send this puppy off to China and head back to my wife and a familiar bed. I hope you enjoy me telling just a small portion of my adventures in girliness. It's a fun life!

    Kathi
    Kathi,

    You are so beyond cool that it's ridiculous! A totally hip geek girl, what an incredible combination! Love it!

    Hugs,
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    That's a great experience. I was at CES last week too. Hope I knew where you are and I would love to drop by to have a chat.

    I drove there from San Diego (not too far away) en femme, and checked in the hotel that way. I was even thinking about going on the show floor en femme on the last day, but ended up did not do it (there are some thing I needed to deal with on that day).

    There is always the next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    Kathi,

    You are so beyond cool that it's ridiculous! A totally hip geek girl, what an incredible combination! Love it!

    Hugs,
    Persephone.
    Awww shucks! I've been a geek since birth. Captain of the safety patrol in elementary, chess club in junior high, taught computers after school in high school (and this was 1978-1981!), was in charge of the AV stuff in high school - heck, if there is such a thing as a man's man, I was a geek's geek!

    Truly though, I love being a geek. My phrase is "A geek is a nerd - but with personality."



    Kathi

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