My statement concerning the 12 step programs was based on knowledge I have acquired about them. I have only heard that these things take place near churches, usually church group do them. I have heard that several of the people drop out, or some become "jesus freaks". Your saying "spiritual- not religious - nature" is honestly new to me. I have not heard of them as being spiritual, but in fact quite religious.
It may just be the area I am in, and of the ones I have heard of.
anyway, have you ever heard of a 12 step program for linking certain fabrics and styles?
