COGIATI? How serious is this?

[AliciaSL]

After getting through the test up come the results.

COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL
What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' tanssexual.

It was almost instant. It was almost like the Signature Analyzers found on the Carnivals. Now having said that. I just sat and gawked at the page. Unable to do anything but cry. I don't understand it. Deep down inside I know that the truth has been there all along. Now that I see something that acts and feels like a side show gaff. Even telling me what I so longed to hear. I cry-ed! I'm still crying.. If I was not confused before I sure am now.. Part of me was relieved. But the one that gets me is the part that is so overwhelmingly scared. I have a family that I truly love. What does this mean to them? My wife has accepted my Bisexuality. She has accepted my cross-dressing. And now I'm afraid to loose all that with just one more whopper. So now I go to her and tell her. Hay honey. Guess what I just found out? Or why now something like How do you feel about having a wife/girlfriend instead of a husband? I already know she is not into women. This is not suppose to hurt is it? I thought I should be happy. It also told me to find help soon.. I just so scared.

Sorry girls.. I never wanted to get this serious here.. I love the feelings I get reading all of you post. The caring and sharing going on here gave me power and hope. None of what has happened here has made me feel anything but free and safe with a sheared secret. So any help from you ladies(GG's also) could make a huge diffrence to me.. Please!

[Helen MC]

I did this "test" too and was classified as an "Androgyne". That is a satisfactory result to me as I do have quite a mixed Male/Female outlook and attitude to Life.

In day to day life I look like most ordinary males, you wouldn't give me a second glance in the street. I do however always wear panties under my "drab" male trousers (pants). I only dress en femme at home alone. I have some male attitides, for example I am Heterosexual and well turned on by attractive women and was married, but I reject other male behavioural stereotypes such as competitive attitudes, rough and tumble games and most sports and I am not a team player but prefer individual activities and passtimes. I am good at verbal but poor in spatial skills. I tend to take a passive role in most situations. However I am not a "touchy feely" person, but rather insular.

So I am happy to accept the result that the Cogiati survey gave me as it seems to fit with my own conclusions.

[MandyTS]

Like all tests that relate to gender roles they are based on traditional ideals, like this test. Many transexuals do not fit the mold known as "gender roles" according to the test. I took it some time ago and ended up with I believe a five if I remember correct. Remember a test is as only good as the method used to give it.

Only you can determine what you really are, it is up to you, ... and no one else!

[swiss_susan]

Your COGIATI result value is: -160 Which means that you fall within the following category:

COGIATI classification TWO, FEMININE MALE

While this description does indeed fit with how I view myself mostly, I don't know that I would make any life changing decisions based on the results. I would agree that it would be very helpful perhaps for you to get some in depth counselling. This would allow someone to have a clearer picture of you. A advice like a good suit is best when tailored.

But thats just my opinion and I am pretty new to this, so take it with a pinch of salt I could be barking up the wrong tree.


Hugs,

Susan

[Shaylynn]

my score surprized me a bit- 155 Probable Transsexual. I've always had questions about what gender suited me best. I have just started to explore my fem side- mostly lingerie, makeup so far. The COGIATI surprised me I never knew that my fem feelings were that strong. Maybe I'd had been trying to hide from the truth. For me the test brings more questions - like where do I go from here?
hugs
Shaylynn

[AliciaSL]

Some how with all of the rush of emotions, I failed to explain the dilemma. The test is what it is. Just a silly test! It like many others I took for other things(not related)are easy to skew. What is so upsetting is that tonight is when My reality hit me full force. Hours of reading and searching over the past few months have only just hit me.. Reality check! It was like starring at the truth for the first time.. It shook me to my core..Even now, a few moments later after reading it I'm shook. It has been like playing the worlds largest game of connect the dots.. Only trouble is. I was not fully prepared to accept the reality of the final picture.

Yes the test reflects like a mirror at me. All my life I lived the lie as expected and understood at the time. I hid anything even vaguely appearing fem. My walk, my emotions, my envy.. I was the best man at everything. It was expected and punished if not changed. Less then all male was not accepted. Fear and lack of knowing the truth kept me all male. But! Years latter and I catch myself falling into another misconception. Just because I was Bisexual I figured that the fem feelings I had were normal. However, to keep this short. Knowing and accepting are two different things. I know that the truth was right in front of me tonight.. The reality of accenting it was the trouble... It hurt me to feel robed of a all those years not knowing the truth. I'm very afraid of what this could do to my family.. At least my wife and daughter. The rest are dead or gone from my life. Joyful at the truth.. Hurt and scared of the the reality..

[Wendy me]

ok i have done this test before and always get a high score ... it is what it is don't get all worked up over it .... if your realy thinking abought it you might think abought some coulencing ....


this is my test ....



The
COMBINED GENDER IDENTITY AND TRANSSEXUALITY INVENTORY
( COGIATI )

RESULTS

Your COGIATI result value is: 430 Which means that you fall within the following category:

COGIATI classification FIVE, TRANSSEXUAL
What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be female. According to COGIATI, your mind and gender identity is that of a woman.
You essentially fit the the model of the classic transsexual, and you should not ignore your gender issues, they will only become more severe.
You definitely need to seek treatment.


SUGGESTIONS FOR ACTION:

Your situation is serious and highly indicative of an inborn gender conflict. It is strongly recommended that you pursue further action.

The suggestions for your circumstance are important.

1. It is recommended that you seek help from a sympathetic counselor or professional about your gender issues. Over time they will become increasingly difficult to cope with. Early confirmation and diagnosis of your transsexuality is vital. The sooner you seriously seek help, the more likely you are to not only survive, but to be happy as well.

2. Some actions may help you to define your condition to yourself more clearly. Experimenting with living full time as a woman, taking hormones for a short time under supervision, or taking testosterone suppressers to observe how you feel are all viable options. Keep in mind that while it is extremely likely that you are a transsexual, it is not certain. Do not take severe or permanent actions without careful thought and the help of counselors and professionals.

3. Your gender issues are real, and should not be ignored! Neither should you rush into acting on them, however powerful they may feel. Transition to a body with a female sex may be your salvation, but it is imperative that you be absolutely sure of what your really want. Act IMMEDIATELY to pursue solving your gender dysphoria. Seek professional assistance IMMEDIATELY.

4. If you have not already, consider joining any of the thousands of groups devoted to gender expression of various kinds. There is literally a world of friends to discover who share your interests. There are also publications, vacations, and activities that would expand your gender expression.

5. You have my wishes for your happiness, my sister. Good luck.



Thank you for using the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory.

[wendyrsmith]

Well, I just HAD to take the test, I did not know the test existed until I read this thread. I got a score of 95 - it seems I am niether Male or Female (they had a posh word for this, but I didn't write it down). I guess they are not that wrong really, so perhaps it does work - sometimes!!

Love Wendy

xxx

[TGMarla]

Ladies, we've had this discussion countless times before. That test has been around for years. It's only about 70 questions. You cannot make a life-changing decision based on 70 generic questions, online, with a pink background, with no other scientific material, with no professional analysis present. It's a "starter kit", nothing more. It is so easy to skew the results of that test....I could take it a dozen times and be labelled a transexual every time....and I'm not. It's so obvious which of the answers are the "girl" answers, it borders on the ridiculous. My advice to you, don't get all worked up over the COGIATI test. Go seek professional advice. Wear heels.

[Bonnie D]

I agree with Marla, it is only a test and should be taken lightly. It appears that you have been waiting for outside confirmation of something you've known or feared for quite sometime. Your wife seems quite open and understanding, you should talk to her about your fears and then you should seek counselling with someone who is knowledgeable with transgendered issues.

Bonnie

[paulacd]

That's what I like about this forum - always finding new things through other people's experiences.
I just tried the test and came out with a score of 10 which gave me a classification three, androgyne.
A bit wierd, but it certainly helps to focus your thoughts a bit as long as you don't take this result as the gospel!

Paula.

[Wendy me]

ok this test as well as the outher on line tests are not something eched in stone true you can answer them the way you want to so if your going down the list of questions "picking" the right answers then yor test is just what you make it ... omg by the results of my test "You definitely need to seek treatment. " ok i defenily have gender issues but not in this lifetime or any time soon getting srs.... ok so thay also said that.."COGIATI classification FIVE, TRANSSEXUAL" ok omg thay gave me a lable ....you know what???
i am so shure of my own lable and i said it here tons of times it's happy ...
just don't get hung up on what you read on line ... read them enjoy them but don't get hung up on what you find on line....

[Kim E]

I'm with Wendy, its only an unscientific online test. Sure, it might give a general indication of where you fall, but it is flawed. Its too easy to either consciously or unconsciously sway your answers for a desired result.
I scored a 320, COGIATI Classification FOUR TRANSSEXUAL, no surprise here.

But don't get all upset over it. If you are having real issues about gender identity, see a gender therapist and get the real deal, so to speak.

Wendy ~ BTW, I do love your label "happy", very cool.

Hugs ~ Kim

[Nikki Dee]

COGIATI...???...I thought he was an Opera singer.!!..or an Italian soccer player.!!!!!..LOL
Nikki. x

[dawnmcdaniels]

did'nt know it existed so I just took it..

Results are in

Your COGIATI result value is: -30 Which means that you fall within the following category:

COGIATI classification THREE, ANDROGYNE

I'm supposed to join a group....................................hello!

[Debbylee]

I just took the test and these are my results. By the way I went to a therapist and they told me to purge all my fem things and leave all the CD groups I belong to.

Your COGIATI result value is: 210 Which means that you fall within the following category:

COGIATI classification FOUR, PROBABLE TRANSSEXUAL
What this means is that the Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory has classified your internal gender identity to be essentially feminine, but with some masculine or androgynous traits. It is very possible that you are a candidate for a diagnosis of transsexualism. You show a strong degree of gender dysphoria. At the very least, further investigation should be undertaken. Your COGIATI score places you among the majority of those diagnosed as transsexuals, the 'late onset' tanssexual.


SUGGESTIONS FOR ACTION:

Your situation is potentially serious and indicative of a probable inborn gender conflict. It is definitely recommended that you pursue further action.

The suggestions for your circumstance are several.

1. It is recommended that you seek help from a sympathetic counselor or professional about your gender issues. It is very possible that over time they will become increasingly difficult to cope with. Early determination of what you really need and want is vital. You need to determine if you truly are transsexual. Keep in mind, thought, that many alternatives exist other than complete sexual transformation. Partial transformation and many other way of existing are available. While you are very possibly a transsexual, COGIATI has determined that this is not absolutely certain. While time is an issue, being certain is more important. Proceed with investigation of your possible transsexuality or transgenderism, but with caution.

2. Some actions may help you to define your needs more clearly. Experimenting with living full time as a woman, taking hormones for a short time under supervision, or taking testosterone suppressers to observe how you feel are all viable options. Keep in mind that while it is very likely that you might be a transsexual, it is not certain. Do not take severe or permanent actions without long thought and the help of counselors and professionals.

3. Your gender issues are real, and should not be ignored. Neither should you rush into acting on them, however powerful they may feel. You do not fit the full criterion for the rarest classification, classic transsexuality, and so should be cautious, and open to possibilities. You may yet end up undergoing transition, and the path of the transsexual may well be your salvation. Be very careful, but do not ignore your issues.

4. If you have not already, consider joining any of the thousands of groups devoted to gender expression of various kinds. There is literally a world of friends to discover who share your interests. There are also publications, vacations, and activities that would expand your gender expression.[/I]

[Jacqui]

I've said this in another thread someplace, but I think this test is a joke. It is more stereotypical of a 1950's Housewife than anything else.

Here are 9 ways to score high and be considered a Cogiati Class FIVE Transexual:

First, you have to despise math and love poetry.

Second, you need to be able to emote; pick up other's feelings, remember faces, names....and music.

Third, forget about directions or parking. You move to a new town...where's West? How the hell should I know? There's no way I can fit in that spot!

Fourth, play pretend games, nothing too active...and if a ball is thrown to you, make sure that you drop it.

Fifth, like to hug people, especially strangers and people of the same sex.

Sixth, where's that sound coming from?

Seventh, check the suicide box

Eighth, sexual arousal is not the most important thing.

Ninth, you're better off dead if you can't become a woman.

Here's how I did playing the game:
"Your COGIATI result value is: 580 Which means that you fall within the following category:

COGIATI classification FIVE, TRANSSEXUAL"

It's nice to see it in writing that you're a true TS!
However, Wendy, TGMarla and others are right...
Go for counseling and be told in person!

[sandra_lag]

Alicia, don´t worry darling. The Cogliati is only a online "joke" test, it´s not used in the psichological therapy prior to the hormonal therapy. I made it a few years ago and it told me the same, probably transsexual...I made the psichological therapy with the proper specialists and I let it go, although they told me that I´m not transexual, but if I want to, they will help me with the transition.
I don´t do it. I stayed here, in the middle of nowhere. Why? Well, even in the fact that we were really transsexual, it doesn´t make any sense to change sex cos´ someone, or something (i.e. a test ) tell you WHO you are. Do you know who you are? Do you know WHAT you are? and, the most important thing, Do you know what to do with all this stuff?
Be careful with your feelings, and make a balance between the things you´ll gain and loose if you decide to tell your SO something that told you an online test... think about it
By the way, I made the Cogliati again and it tells me I´m Androginous... just wait a little time and made it again, you´ll probably be surprised on the results.
And, oh, yeah, I´d cry a lot to, still crying sometimes

hugs & kisses
Sandra

[nancy58]

Alicia,

I believe you explained it well enough the first time. Your reaction reminds me of the reaction I had when I came out to my therapist and was faced with the decision of whether or not to tell my wife I like wearing women's clothing. I thought it would be the end of the world, and instead it turned out to be something that added depth to our relationship. Even so, I agree that you are in a pickle compared to where I was.

First of all, don't do anything solely on the basis of that test. It may be perfectly correct, but what if it's not? Psychology and all these things about sexuality are what I call soft or fuzzy sciences. There is so much we don't know, and it's not like Newtonian physics or mathematics, in which you can pretty well be guaranteed that there is an exact answer.

I think your next step is to seek some professional help with a therapist, probably including more testing. Your therapist should be able to work with you and your wife as you figure out whether you are going to remain a man who dresses up or become a woman. Yes, it may be painful, but worse than dealing with the dilemma you are in is not dealing with it, and not knowing.

You will be all right! Keep in touch with us, and let us know how we can help.

Nancy

[AliciaSL]

Before I get too deep into this. I first wish to say thank you for taking the time to express you opinions. Second I would like to express special thanks to sandra_lag, nancy58, swiss_susan, and Bonnie D for not just looking at the test part of the topic.. It was obvious I was and still am shaken. You Ladies have helped calm the storm for the moment.

Today, only a few days later I'm able to look at things clearer. After the shock, I took stock of myself and took the time to do a very deep personal inventory of what my feelings. If the truth be know I remember Christine Jorgensen's announcement and cried. That does date me but it also gives example of how long I have been confusion over this. So my shocking Epiphany was only waiting to revel the truth. SRS is not just an option today but a goal. Now having made that choice. The rest is at best murky. Fear of loosing what remains of my family is not as easy to cope with. However, I will seek answers from those that know about this. Also, I need only wait for the right moment with my wife. What happens then? Who knows. I can only hope that my life don't come crashing around me. Counseling should help there. I have only to open the door to see what is on the other side I guess.

To those truly concerned. Even though I did almost leave. I will not stray far away from the group. To me this group is a life line. No matter how week the line, any will do when left without any other. Almost forgot that for a day or two. I will not make that mistake again. So wish me luck as I dive in. I will keep you posted as possible. This could make me homeless..Wish me luck!

Hugs to all
Kisses and hugs to those given special mentioned above.


Special note: I'm very open to direct E-Mail contact with any of you. I think it would be wonderful to make good friends here. For me it has always been hard reaching out to meet others directly. But! I will take a hand when offered in friendship.