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    Crossdressing on TV

    TV has had relatively few shows with significant crossdressing roles. Most TV CDers seem to have been insignificant random roles or comedy characters. Bosom Buddies and MASH's Klinger were regular comedy roles which depicted males crossdressing to mislead others, not because they enjoyed crossdressing. With all the thousands of TV characters, why has TV avoided a serious CD character? RuPaul depicts drag queen competition and related drama. But participants do not show their day-to-day normal lives. Will reality TV see possibly more CDing shows or roles? If TV depicted crossdressing differently, perhaps in positive roles rather than comedy stereotypes, would it lead to better understanding and maybe more people experiencing crossdressing?

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    Heatherdress would you put your life on tv. Not just your cd life but your regular life as a male on television?


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    Contessa - there have been countless TV roles played by thousands of actors. Why not an actor who plays a serious crossdresser?

    Reality TV is quite different. But it is possible to create a spin-off from RuPaul depicting the follow-up day-to-day lives of participants. Or new shows depicting crossdressers who are already open. Or shows in which participants are given crossdressing situations, experiences etc.

    This question was not about exposing private lives.

    The list of movie and TV crossdresing characters is quite long. But just about every role is a stereotype comedy role or an insignificant minor character. Seems Hollywood would have made some "progress" by now. Would a serious crossdressing detective or doctor role create many interesting possibilities for some show, even if it is not the main theme?
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    Television does not try to make change in society. TV is a reflection of society at the moment. TV shows what it cane sell and no more. There would be hundred crossdressing shows if a big enough audience wanted to see it. We are too small a population to merit interest.

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    There's no money in it, and television is a business. The talk shows of the '80s and '90s liked to sensationalize real life crossdressers, and I use to turn on the TV hoping Phil Donahue or Jenny Jones would have CDs on.

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    A few years ago the soap opera 'All my Children' had a recurring role of a TS character that was played very seriously. Saw a few episodes but more than that I don't remember.

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    I would agree that gay bounderies on TV have been pushed foward. It will take time for crossdressing to become more accepted on TV too. But it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyfaye View Post
    I would agree that gay bounderies on TV have been pushed foward. It will take time for crossdressing to become more accepted on TV too. But it will happen.

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    U may be rite, Heather. It's possibly time for a CD show to be acceptable. Unfortunately, someone in Hollywood has to see a script or situation or person that he thinks will be VERY ENTERTAINING to Muggles! So, think; stupid, insipid, situation comedy. Or, reality TV showing the life of a flamboyant, outragous, drag queen type. Or, reality TV with someone famous that comes out and they follow him/her around!

    A real life working stiff that dresses on the side? Or, the struggles of a real pre-op TS? Both good for maybe a one hour show on public TV! Maybe someone here will read this and come up with a CD script that's both realistic AND entertaining? From what I've seen in my 60 years, that would make it the FIRST show in the history of TV like that!
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    The first time I really saw anything about crossdressing on tv was when I saw an Eddie Izzard stand up special. Ofcourse I was shocked but I loved his comedy style and I really just saw him as a person. But I wish there would be serious roles in actual shows.

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    there have been a lot more movies and shows that talk and show men and woman that crossdress
    take a look at how long TV took to show Gay couples in movies and or TV shows
    It will just take time to get use to the idea
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    A couple years ago I saw this reality show where they took regular guys and made them into women. Now you have all these other reality shows that go year after year. Why not that one. It was great and the guys had professionals clothes and makeup. I would sign up in a minute.

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    This is an interesting topic. I turned on the TV only yesterday afternoon and there was an old NCIS on (don't ever normally watch it, but needed a break from gardening!). The victim was a crossdresser, and there was another transexual character involved that they didn't really show. Throughout the episode the main regular characters uttered words like 'he-she' and 'freak'. It was kind of implied that the victim's crossdressing was a large part and/or symptom of the character's downward spiral.

    There's a prevalence on TV to show TV/TS people as damaged in some way (or sometimes with crossdressing depicted as an aspect of a much more extreme character, eg serial killer). Or, as you say Heather, in a purely comedy aspect. In todays large esemble casts, would there not be room for a character that crossdresses? The journey that a lot of us are going through could make great drama if done well. It'd just be lovely to see the whole thing portrayed in a positive light, with a main character or main supporting character, who is successful, well adjusted, likeable and a big fan of summer dresses. A better representation of CDing in the media could speed up acceptance in mainstream society in a big way (and don't even get me started on the British tabloids view of TV/TS people!!).
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    The Drew Carey show had a full-fledged hetero TV as a character for some of the series later run. While his dressing was used for some comedic effect at times, the portrayal was pretty accurate of a TV all things considered.
    On The Golden Girls, Sophia's son was a TV (though he was never shown, a later episode did feature his wife and his mother talking about the struggles over his dressing, and they were quite accurate.)

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    Sounds good and most of us would probably go for it but really you need to put a bug in the ear of some Hollywood producers with an idea of situation that would inspire. Personally, I always thought something like a private investigator show like "Honey West" from the 1950's could showcase a CD adventuress. The only difference would be is the owner of the PI agency would operate in the field en femme. This was an actual plan of mine in real life that fell through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickie_CDTV View Post
    The Drew Carey show had a full-fledged hetero TV as a character for some of the series later run. While his dressing was used for some comedic effect at times,
    Wasn't this Craig Furguson of Late Late Show w/Craig Furguson?
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    Hi Heather

    What I was trying to get at is will any of us do it. I could sure I could play a crossdressing hero. But there does not seem to be any TV people seems even in this forum. I mean that directors and or producers who are even thinking about your suggestion. The was only Ed Wood but I am not sure he is even around any more. My co-workers discussed it last year but have made no attempt to get any thing done. I will discuss it again with them. Or should I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beverley Sims View Post
    Very tempting for a million dollars.
    Absolutely Beverley. I didn't see the part about the million dollars. They could chronicle my cross dressing life all they want for a million bucks. They could come live with me and film me getting ready for bed, while I'm sleeping, film me getting up, film me taking a shower, getting ready to go shopping. Film me in the evening with my wife at a nice restaurant, film other diners comments of us out. Not much I wouldn't do for a mmmiiillliiioon dollars. All they would have to do is show me where to sign and what I need to do.

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    Funny, I was thinking this same thing just a couple days ago. TV add came on for yet another new show with a gay man a the lead character and all I could think is how common gay and lesbian rolls are now but no CD. Guess we need to start poking the bee hive.

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    You mean the crossdressing caveman in the current Gieco commercials isn't serious? I thought he looked seriously hot in that cheerleader uniform!

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    Denise David Duchovny part on twin peeks was a cross dresser kinde of serious role.
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    Personally if there was a show that touched or openly brought out cross dressing into mainstream, the easiest way would be taking a teen show where they have the lives of teenagers intertwined. Having a male character who not just faces the normal teen problems, but has to deal with wanting to dress like a female. Things some of us can relate to such as fear of being caught, dealing with family and friends, loneliness, sexuality, and how the teen gets his clothes (siblings, buys, or steals(this is a matter on its one as I do not want to portray CDs as being thieves, but just showing how far a person would go to get clothes without someone recognizing him)). Issues of him being beat up, bullied, or not being accepted would help to put him into a more sympathetic light, but having him have a sense of humor either with his friends or in female persona would make him likeable. Hope this made sense...

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    I recall an episode of House MD in which House brings a T-gurl on a double date with Wilson to stick it to him. Of course Houses plan back fires when it turns out both Wilsons date and the T-gurl grew up in the same town, much camaraderie ensues leaving House looking dejected . I thought the character was portrayed with respect for our community, too bad that seems to be a rairity in the mainstream media.

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    In fact, here's a whole big list of "Wholesome Crossdressers" presented by TVTropes. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...meCrossdresser

    Some of them are debatable choices, with a lot of "in this one episode/issue/etc a guy dressed as a girl for some reason", but there's actually a surprising number of examples. Of course, a lot of them are from anime and manga, as the Japanese seem to be a lot more willing to explore crossdressing in general.

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