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    Not everyone is worthy of the gift my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thera Home View Post
    Yet when I usually google (and most other search engines) this it mostly comes up with globs of phornograffic filth. Why do some of us choose to use this "gift" and pervert it I wonder.
    1. Age. The younger men are, the more sexual they are. Maybe a chunk of men on those sites are under 30-40?

    2. Marital status. Maybe a bulk of them are not in relationships?

    3. Degree of gender dissonance. Maybe these men view the CDing as a fun kink, just like BDSM or internet porn?

    4. People are multi-faceted. How do you know that some regular members here don't also occasionally enjoy an excursion on the wild side?

    5. And last, they're men who have normal male libidos. Personally, I don't have a problem with it if they're single, unless they become addicted to it which will make it difficult for them to gain sexual satisfaction with the GGs they might eventually want to be with.


    ... also, it's the INTERNET. Indulging in fantasies in the privacy of one's own home without risk of detection or STDs, is entirely possible now. Are you surprised at the proliferation of such sites, whether they are CD related or not?
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    Let me ask this, is it any CD sexuality that's the problem or just when it involves two biological males?

    I can understand that it's not something everyone wants to see but what I don't understand is throwing someone under the bus for the slight chance that GGs or society will find us more acceptable.
    "No honey! I'm not like those people!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by whowhatwhen View Post
    Let me ask this, is it any CD sexuality that's the problem or just when it involves two biological males?

    I can understand that it's not something everyone wants to see but what I don't understand is throwing someone under the bus for the slight chance that GGs or society will find us more acceptable.
    "No honey! I'm not like those people!"


    I would think it's any picture that involves a CD/TG/TS with their penis out even if they're solo. Don't read too much into it.

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    You're right, I got a little too worked up over it.

    Don't get me wrong, I respect that it's not everyone's thing (and I really could care less tbh) but shame is one of my pet peeves.

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    What a ridiculous and judgemental notion. Just because you choose to self justify your crossdressing by calling it a gift doesn't make it so. You cannot pervert something like crossdressing because it doesn't have a purpose to begin with. When you got your crossdressing "gift" did it come with a little gift card that said this gift is to help you grow and understand yourself so please use it wisely? Which fairy princess made you the keeper of crossdressing morals and ethics?

    Go ask a random GG about crossdressing. She will probably tell you that you are already perverted by crossdressing in the first place. She might even tell you that you are being disrespectful to woman by crossdressing. So from another perspective, you already are what you accuse others of being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleScott View Post
    Many people think crossdressers are perverts. What is your authority to define perversion?
    Im no one w/ authority Nicole,just a voice in the wilderness.........Hmm...sounds familiar

    Quote Originally Posted by Karren Hutton View Post
    you can return gifts.......
    The Lines..................................

    Quote Originally Posted by whowhatwhen View Post
    Even still, it's better to ignore the porn than get upset over.
    Not upset,just saddened

    Quote Originally Posted by Marleena View Post
    I think Thera meant pictures of CD'ers doing the sex act.
    Pretty much............

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Ann View Post
    It was estimated that the California porn industry was a 13.4 billion dollar industry in the US in 2011
    Love the climate...................Hate the politics

    Quote Originally Posted by kimdl93 View Post
    part of what you see on line is just the predatory nature of internet porn merchants...they take something that can be sexy to some individuals and push it to extremes.
    Totally agree kim

    Quote Originally Posted by KaliBrooke View Post
    Condescending, much? How exactly is porn filth? It seems to me that it's just another facet of human sexuality. Some might like it, some might not, but to call it filth is a bit excessive. For that matter, so is calling it "disrespectful." If you find it distasteful, there's no need to climb on your soapbox.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wildaboutheels View Post
    Now more than ever, the world is all about CHOICE.
    Thats what we all want.............so we have it.....careful for what we wish for,I guess


    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie47 View Post
    I've always posted, if you want your wife or truly involved significant other, to find this site or another explaining who we are and why we cross dress, do NOT let them find it by themselves. Take her to the site(s). The issue of cross dressing is toxic enough to most GG's and parents. Having them see the seedier side of cross dressing exploitation is not in my best interests.
    I feel for the folks that are starting out wanting to find out about this aspect of a loved one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel80 View Post
    Considering pretty much every single group or demographic in society is represented by some form of porn, it seems a touch odd to get offended by CD/TG porn, especially when its a portion of the market that is completely overshadowed by 'regular' and lesbian varieties.
    Well, maybe it's time to step out of the shadows and into the light

    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    ... also, it's the INTERNET. Indulging in fantasies in the privacy of one's own home without risk of detection or STDs, is entirely possible now. Are you surprised at the proliferation of such sites, whether they are CD related or not?
    They sure made it easy for us...............gee thanks guys

    Quote Originally Posted by whowhatwhen View Post
    Let me ask this, is it any CD sexuality that's the problem or just when it involves two biological males?
    Two guys in dresses going at it........
    Why dress? Just have at it

    I'd say a little degrading on the woman we're trying to admire.

    Quote Originally Posted by whowhatwhen View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I respect that it's not everyone's thing (and I really could care less tbh) but shame is one of my pet peeves.
    A man without shame...............let me just say,very vulnrable(sp?)

    Quote Originally Posted by TVAmanda View Post
    What a ridiculous and judgemental notion. Just because you choose to self justify your crossdressing by calling it a gift doesn't make it so. You cannot pervert something like crossdressing because it doesn't have a purpose to begin with. When you got your crossdressing "gift" did it come with a little gift card that said this gift is to help you grow and understand yourself so please use it wisely? Which fairy princess made you the keeper of crossdressing morals and ethics?

    Go ask a random GG about crossdressing. She will probably tell you that you are already perverted by crossdressing in the first place. She might even tell you that you are being disrespectful to woman by crossdressing. So from another perspective, you already are what you accuse others of being.
    Touched a nerve I see.

    When you got your crossdressing "gift" did it come with a little gift card that said this gift is to help you grow and understand yourself so please use it wisely?

    Exactly..................use it wisely

    Go ask a random GG about crossdressing. She will probably tell you that you are already perverted by crossdressing in the first place. She might even tell you that you are being disrespectful to woman by crossdressing.

    Thanks to the crap out there already.


    The dressing part is just that, a part of this whole gift. What I find disrespectful
    is the fact that they'll defiling someone I admire. A woman is a precious being to me and when a man defiles her "that really pisses me off". This forum is for me to share our ideas based on my morality and values. You do what you want in the privacy of your own bedroom. Just don't try to shove this down my throat by posting this crap for general public viewing. Do you not believe these Money mongers will not use this for building thier mountains of gold?

    What about the children that have access to this?


    Ah................. Feel better now.

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    when you consider that Porn is among the most searched for item on the internet it is not surprising that you would stumble across it very easily.

    Like numerous others have stated I don't like when people want everyone else to conform to their values. My only objection to porn is when people are exploited (ie, forced into performing sex acts against their will).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thera Home View Post
    The dressing part is just that, a part of this whole gift. What I find disrespectful
    is the fact that they'll defiling someone I admire. A woman is a precious being to me and when a man defiles her "that really pisses me off". This forum is for me to share our ideas based on my morality and values. You do what you want in the privacy of your own bedroom. Just don't try to shove this down my throat by posting this crap for general public viewing. Do you not believe these Money mongers will not use this for building thier mountains of gold?

    What about the children that have access to this?


    Ah................. Feel better now.

    Thera
    I don't like the idea of men being rough with women, but I won't force that idea on anyone - especially not on the women who enjoy that themselves. Also, I respect women enough to know that they're not delicate flowers unable to function without the protection of a man.

    Two guys in dresses going at it........
    Why dress? Just have at it

    I'd say a little degrading on the woman we're trying to admire.
    I can't speak for them, but I imagine they do it because it feels good.
    Degrading? They're just having sex, which, by the way is completely harmless as long as it's consensual.

    Furthermore, as posted before, some women find any crossdressing degrading.

    As for shoving it down your throat, if text links in a search engine is that bothersome that you're going to attack people having (non straight, missionary, in the dark, no movement) sex then I don't know what to tell you.
    The general public doesn't need to view it, someone looking to beat it will specifically look for it, find it, and enjoy it - just as the people who made it intended.

    Also, IIRC children do not have access to this site and even if they do there is no porn here.

    I didn't realize this was asexual-puritan-crossdressers.com, and I'm not even a fancy sexhaver like most of you.
    We're not supposed to talk about humping here, but honestly what is with the whole no-true-cd-has-any-sex attitude?

    I still can't help but shake the feeling it's male-male sex that's the issue here.

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    Thera, you're just going to have to learn to ignore all those sites, like everyone else who is not into them. If you're concerned that your wife might find them and develop the wrong idea about what motivates you, then the onus is on you to explain where you're at with all of this.


    As much as you'd like to wipe out an entire porn industry, you just can't. Goodness, an analogy is my personal distaste for the junk food industry and the super-sized mentality epidemic that contributes to our ever increasing, national obesity rates causing all the related medical issues. I can't change any of it, but I can certainly make appropriate nutritional choices for myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whowhatwhen View Post
    I still can't help but shake the feeling it's male-male sex that's the issue here.
    That's possible, although it seems more likely that it's just sex in general that's the issue here. It's so icky.
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