IS it just me or are their more MTF than FTM

[bumblebee]

MTF are just easier to spot. Due to the way gender is, and the imbalance of clothing, it's more evident for a physical male to cross the gender boundary than it is for a physical female. If you seek to wear a dress, or whatever, you're breaking a rule. Due to the fact that, in our society, it's seen as bad to be feminine (especially if you're giving the keys to the masculine role).

I know a ton of females who only wear mens clothes. Do they identify as male? Some do and some just don't care. They can blend in a lot easier. It's quite evident in a lot of fandoms online.

[JadeEmber]

Yeah, this is a good question. One data point is from a Dutch clinic. They reported that 3:2 MtF/FtM sought treatment, but 1:1 went through the final steps.

There is a lack of parity, of course. I have several female friends who never wear skirts, pantyhose, blouses, dresses -- only flannel shirts, male-pattern T-shirts, and jeans. No one really comments on it at least within that kind of workplace; I know other places would comment on it.

In terms of fiction, it comes up though. Boys Don't Cry, for example.

But I suspect that there are more in some sense, since I suspect fetish-based CD'ing isn't at common. Although maybe there's more "practical crossdressing" with women, but no one really considers that CD'ing.

Would be good to know in terms of understanding the different groups and motivations.

[sometimes_miss]

I think it's mainly because sexually, men think about it all the time, so if we identify as female, if we want to have sex as a female, we need to BE female (in appearance if not in physical state). Women don't have the testosterone to cause all that sexual tension as much, so it's not that big of a deal; they are allowed to do most male activities and behaviors, so that it's not the suppressive feeling that we go through so much. Same with the clothes; a woman can wear loose jeans and a man's flannel shirt, work boots, etc and no one cares. We don't have the reverse option. I do know one gay woman who expressed that while it would have been nice to have been born a male, it really wasn't that important; seems that a penis (no matter what size) isn't the be all and end all to sexual satisfaction for women that the vast majority of men seem to think it is.

[SAMANN]

Wow the response to this post has been very interesting and educational. I am still (40 some years into this) still trying to understand what draws me to womens clothing. Yrs at first it was a sexual thing but that hasn't been the case for many years now. I currently have to take testosterone to have any kind of sexual drive. The research I have done does not definitively show a biological correlation between normal male and CD. (sorry my inner nurse is showing her stuff). So it must be something else wish I knew what tha was.

[April_Ligeia]

I think you answered your own question. Any woman could wear any of my male clothes without a second look, so women can actually crossdres without it being called ftm crossdressing. I bet if you looked at the number of women wearing men's clothes, it would change the statistics.

[Annaliese]

It is just easier to blend in for FTM than MTF that is what it looks like to me

[Foxglove]

I think one of the reasons that MTF are more ostrasized in our society may be from the attitude that men are strong and women are not. Therefore a man who is wanting to appear weak or being weak, is a bad thing.

I always wonder if it's actually true that we're more ostracized than the FTM's. I have some contact with a few of them, and they don't necessarily gain much acceptance from those they know. Things can be very hard for them in ways. I think we need to get more testimony from them before we make up our minds on this issue.

Annabelle

[Frédérique]

IS it just me or are their more MTF than FTM

[SIZE="2"]Question mark... If you look at the numbers on this site, you can (may) reach a conclusion that agrees with your statement. I don’t know how it is OUT THERE, so I can’t comment…[/SIZE]

If this is true I am wondering if that is because women have so many options in clothing, along with it being acceptable for a women to wear mens clothes (even suits). Is the perception that when we do this it is for a sexual reason only.

[SIZE="2"]Don’t confuse ACTUAL male clothing with female clothing that is based on male prototypes. The latter may be tailored specifically for women, thus making them 100% female garments. Also, don’t you suppose that FtM crossdressers also crossdress for sexual reasons now and then? You can’t really generalize about such things, especially around here, IMHO…[/SIZE]

[noeleena]

Hi,

Lets define crossdressing as against wearing womens clothes, or clothes that are manly for women .

The womens clothes in the main dont fit men unless your body is the same shape as a woman & most men are not , we have breasts & a vigina our body shape for many around the hip's are different & so on, so when you line us up against men theres a few difference's.

So ball gowns that fit me will not look right on a male unless your 11 stone = 154 lbs height 5 ,9. bust is 41 in's . waistline is 35 in's. hip's are 39 in's .

What im trying to do is so you see even if a male stands next to me our shapes will be different im a woman , the male wont have breast's & the same figger .

As in how a male & woman should look like ,

So the crossdresser will wont to have forms to make it look like he has breasts he will tuck to hide his ummm what's its to appear he dont have a whats' it . a corssit to pull his tummy in to appear to have the hourglass look. need i go on you get the idear,

Now if this male just put on the ballgown no forms or tucking or corssit no makeup no jewery or painted nails & you know the rest would he be a crossdresser then or just be himself as a male,with out trying to be or look like a woman, i know 3 who do that,

Now as you all know im a Renaissance member our men dress in dress's long ones some with skirts & tops 100 in fact not one of them is trying or wonting to be women they are normal males strong yet all male , & every thing about them SAY's male.....

(( mind you they most do look quite lovely in thier garb )) all colours & look pretty ......good .

so will or would you say they are dresser's in the context we are talking about of cause not ....why,,,, what's the difference they are men in normal 1400 to 1700 garb = clothes,

they are not dresser's, the garb is made for men. not women or for women .

As a woman like my female / women friends we make our own clothes to fit us not men.

Okay , western socity has for money & fashon got people to change thier thinking over the last 100 or so years, to make mens & womens clothes different ,

& to change attitudses to its not the clothes we wear its the men trying to emulat us women, in looks manirisms & so on,

I dought very much & i know you men would & will not just stop at the wearing of clothes will you. no , you wont to take it further if not all the way to for some to live as a woman all the time,

so to be a real woman & i know most wont or even give it a thought let alone have the desire or what makes us who are women have & give birth to in my case my baby,
to explain

For many females its in us to at all cost to have our own baby to bond with , though for me its far deeper than what im trying to say i just dont have the words to express my inner most emotional feelings on this matter, to me its a lose i can never have,

The responsabilty of being a woman is far more than just the clothes, it is to me & from birth,

...noeleena...

[sometimes_miss]

Don't confuse ACTUAL male clothing with female clothing that is based on male prototypes.

Thing is, some of it is indistinguisable from genuine male clothing. Lots of work clothes which would, 40 years ago, have been completely reserved for males, are now quite normally worn by women, while the reverse is not true at all. If you go to women's clothing departments, you can find lots of things that a guy could wear without batting an eye. Sweats, flannels, jeans, sneakers, shoes, hats, if I were five foot five I could easily shop in the woman's departments and no one would ever know. Sure, the occasional item has a 'tell' like having the zipper on the opposite side, but otherwise the clothes are identical. BTW, my ex wife bought men's stuff like the above for casual wear and for knocking around the house all the time, and thought nothing of it at all.