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    Dna

    (NB-this is NOT serious...if it were I would cry right now)

    There are 23 chromosomes in a human. In those chromosomes there are 20,000-25,000 genes. We all know that the "Y" chromosome has less genes than the "X" so we already know that males are short some genetic material. But the randomness of all the other genes is what makes us all different.

    I know I was born without certain "genes". I don't have the gene that requires I stick a fork in a light socket just to see what will happen. I don't have the gene that makes going and drowning worms fun. I don't have the gene that can tell an alternator from the starter. In my case (and this is total honesty) I never had the gene to procreate. In sports I am a reactive person, not a proactive person (I am a better goalie than forward. I am a better corner back than a wide receiver).

    Maybe I was born with certain genes others don't have also. We all know that being TG is genetic...right?? OK that is a "given" here but not proven.
    I have an active imagination and I lean toward arts and music (even though I am in a science field...I think being an artist helps balance what I do.)

    OK two questions. What genes do you think you were born with (without) that the middle of the bell curve has (or doesn't).

    And how much of what (who) you are is genetic (and not just the TG part...the whole)?

    Wouldn't it be fascinating if the TG gene was part of the "X" gene and is only expressed when a gene on the "Y" is suppressed or inactive?

    Oh I guess I don't have the gene for counting either...that is three questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorileah View Post
    (NB-this is NOT serious...it it were I would cry right now)

    OK two questions. What genes do you think you were born with (without) that the middle of the bell curve has (or doesn't).

    And how much of what (who) you are is genetic (and not just the TG part...the whole)?
    I was born without the gene that makes you NOT a cross dresser.

    100% of me is genetic. I have no artificial additives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenniferathome View Post
    100% of me is genetic. I have no artificial additives.
    always one scientific smart alec in the group If it wasn't for additives and preservatives I would be a raisin
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    I think the part of me that is genetic is obvious when you look at my kids. Out of the three they each have some of me but not all of me. My son has a soft heart, but no drive for success. My second - a daughter - has my smart ass attitude and the desire to help all around her. My youngest got all of the artistic qualities. I do not resemble much of my father in looks or personality but little from my mother either. I pray that none of them have the gene that makes me unable to accept my birth gender.

    Genetics make up a very large portion of who we are but is shaped wildly by the experiences of life as well.

    What I was born without....a drive to compete, the ability to be dishonest to get ahead,

    what genes do I have that most on the bell curve do not....well looking around at the world I would have to say common sense.
    All I ever wanted was to be a girl. Is that really asking too much?

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    let me count the ways

    As prof Indiana Jones says, X never marks the spot. How wrong can a guy be. I have got the genes for blue eyes, so a lot of my genetic glitches are fairly new, geologically speaking. About 6000 years old. I got the gene for music and half the genes for mechanics--I can take it apart but I'll be damned if I can put it together again.
    Best of all I got the JEANS that Karren doesn't have. Love those 501's. LOL
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    For me....hmmm....

    Im terrible at math, but great at science and history...
    I love music...major part of my life. I play the violin, piano, cello, and japanese shakuhachi
    I dont play sports
    I dont know anything about cars...though I CAN change a tire!!
    I love pretty things...not just in womens clothing and fashion but also in life; Sunsets, forest scenes, flowers, color and beauty.
    I love soft things...cant really think of one in particular...just soft things...fabrics, furs, etc
    I have been told by several people within the Eastern religion/new age community that I have had a kundalini experience and am "enlightened" (though I am a Christian by faith)...to much of there bitterness that it hasnt happened to them yet
    I tend to feel peoples emotions around me regardless of whether or not they are showing them
    I am typically missunderstood and get lots of blank looks when I start babbling on and on about science...thats usually when I break out the phone and say "have you seen that new cat video??" Their eyes light back up and I have their attention again!
    How much is genetic? Not entirely sure. My grandfather was an aerospace engineer for NASA but outside of that....I think that I am who I am...someone totally quirky, off the wall, and can easily relate to people but is often missunderstood.

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    What genes do you think you were born with (without) that the middle of the bell curve has (or doesn't).

    I believe both I some complicity. Specifically XX and XY or a variation from the normal XY a typical man is supposed to have.

    And how much of what (who) you are is genetic (and not just the TG part...the whole)?

    At this point I would say 50/50 despite actual dressing being only about 10% of my time currently. The rest is mostly of an emotional state.

    Wouldn't it be fascinating if the TG gene was part of the "X" gene and is only expressed when a gene on the "Y" is suppressed or inactive?

    There is much truth to this however not often looked at (yet) when it comes to TG or CD's. You can Google 'Human Chimera' and 'Human Mosaics' and find plenty of information that points to a lot of truth to this, especially Mosaics who are people with a 'mosaic' of chromosomes. Without actually being tested I am 100% sure I am at least a mosaic as I have a lot of the physical signs, mainly 'Blacko Lines' which is striped or patching skin colors. They are prominent early in childhood then mostly face by late teens and can mostly only been seen under certain UV lighting. The patterns on the skin are created the same way they patching hair color you see on a toutishell cat. The chromosomes in that breed are a mosaic mix causing the different hair color patches. It works the same with humans.

    My skin patching was mostly on my torso and has all but faded completely however is still very prominent where ummm...the sun doesn't shine. LOL. This is all scientifcally fact however what is not widely studied is the emotional effects having both XX and XY chromosomes have.

    Most studies are all centered around Inter-sexed conditions.

    Here is an interesting article I found.

    http://archderm.jamanetwork.com/arti...icleid=419529#
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostalady View Post

    Genetics make up a very large portion of who we are but is shaped wildly by the experiences of life as well.

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    This would be Lamarck's theory of evolution but it is now discredited. What we do in life is NOT carried into our genetic makeup and passed along to offspring. That means that your children will NOT inherit your proclivities to CD.
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    I was born without the dancing gene. Despite many lessons, I still have two (or three or four) left feet. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I can't stand dance shows, and can't understand why anyone would.

    I was also born without the artist gene. Everything I try to draw ends up looking like a shapeless blob.

    And finally, I was born without the Sudoku gene. I love logic puzzles, but even the simplest Sudokus confound me. I still do them, probably because it seems so weird to me that I can do other logic problems but not these. Usually I give up halfway through after realizing that I've put two or three identical digits in the same row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by busker View Post
    This would be Lamarck's theory of evolution but it is now discredited. What we do in life is NOT carried into our genetic makeup and passed along to offspring. That means that your children will NOT inherit your proclivities to CD.
    hmmmm...this is faulty logic. If this is genetic it can very well be passed on. If it is not genetic but a culmination of experiences then the result is that a parent may very well pass on some of these through the lessons taught and lifestyle.
    All I ever wanted was to be a girl. Is that really asking too much?

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    The 23rd pair, the sex chromosomes, differ between males and females. Females have two copies of the X chromosome, while males have one X and one Y chromosome. I should have put an "X" in that second box...and not asked "Y"

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    I'm not a Doctor but I do not believe that the 23rd pair of a strain creates the urge to Xdress..That pair only determines our physical sex ( male xy female yy).. I'd like to believe that ( for most cross dressers) the behavioral pattern comes from the behavioral strains ( we get one from each parent) ..Like all strains errors are made when copied and mutant cells are made to correct the errors..But then again I am not a Doctor..This would explain why we have the desire as a physical male to express in femme at times.. This also could be the reason/reasons why other family members do not have these urges.. Now these mutant cells can be passed on to the next generation as to where you can have other siblings that do have the same urges just like you can have other family members that are gay..
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    I do not!! Claim to be an expert on any topic, when I post a new thread or reply on any thread my imput is strickly that of a crossdresser. Not to offend Gay people , Transexuals or any other life style, I am only commenting on one of my own.

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    there are actually 46 chromosomes in the human body 23 from the mother and 23 from the father.within those chromosomes are 64 codeons which can be aligned to a star tetrahedron that can be altered using frequency of sound and light waves. Genetics go really really deep and I would go into a whole lot more detail however I can already see your eyes glazing over.

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    Clothing and gender presentation is social not genetic. So a genetic connection to crossdressing would have to be indirect in some fashion. There are some characteristics that transcend culture. Females to have more interest in color comes to mine. But an attraction to a skirt is too culturally specific to be genetic by itself.

    As far as my genes/traits go I was definitely born without the sports watching gene. I also have trouble hiding/containing my feelings. On the other side I am extremely analytical and technical minded. I have an intuitive streak that I don't use enough.

    I think the basics are pretty much genetic. I'm pre-dispossed to be emotional, anylitical, intuitive and interested in femaleness. How I express those predispositions is what makes me. compassion, engineering, spirituality, crossdressing etc.

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    I know this thread is just for fun... Genes and how we receive them do play a role on how we look act/behave ,our interest and everything we are ..Even our sleeping patterns are passed along to us through the genes we receive ..They have done studies for little boys and girls in a social setting trying to prove that the social settings can create the behavioral patterns..Although they can adjust their behavior in a social pattern they can not maintain or keep the same behavior outside of the setting in most every case..
    I do not!! Claim to be an expert on any topic, when I post a new thread or reply on any thread my imput is strickly that of a crossdresser. Not to offend Gay people , Transexuals or any other life style, I am only commenting on one of my own.

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    I taught Genetics and do believe that a lot of our tendency's to dress are out side stimulus....I wont argue the fact that we really don't know why some people have certain characteristics to be female and some male when some display male and female genitalia. It is an interesting study wish I had pursued and listened more when I was in college. What I taught was a very basic course related to animal science. I also believe that there are genetics involved in what makes us do some of what we do and the only way to over come those characteristics is our brain. This causes in my opinion the frustrations we sometimes feel about expressing ourselves.

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    I completely lack the genes that allow one to perform musically in any way, shape or form. I can't sing - I was the kid they told to lip sync in grade school, I'm that bad. I can't keep time. I have no ability to stay on pitch. I have failed at every instrument I've tried to play, and there have been a lot of them. I have completely exasperated every music instructor I have ever had.

    I'm also not artistic. My sister got both of these abilities she is a natural.

    I got the genes for writing computer programs, science, math, and alcoholism.

    I got the gene to be very practical minded. I see this in other members of my extended family.

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    I like all my genes except for the baggy ones. I know that Karren hates genes and thinks that they are quite unfeminine. I like those other people's genes because they tend to fit tighter and hug my skinny legs better than those genes that I should be wearing because of my makeup. They mostly make me look better and feel better too. Genes last a long time. I don't think that I have any frayed genes or genes with holes in them, is that OK? Though I do have some very old genes. Most of my genes are blue, is that bad?? My genes are very easy to wash because I can mix them with any colors and they do not absorb those other colors. They are also very easy to fold to store away until I need or want to use them. I am so happy that Mr. Levi Strauss invented them. They seem to fit right into my overall makeup so well. Did I say that I also like makeup?

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    Question: How do you tell a male chromosome from a female chromosome?

    Answer: You pull down it's genes (jeans).

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    I've read that over the millennia, the male chromosome has actually been losing genes. Perhaps one day it will disappear entirely...well, not really, it seems to have stabilized.

    I wonder myself, whether I lack the beer-gut, tshirt, butt-crack, goatee and baseball cap genes. Maybe they are present, but were suppressed by hormones present in the placenta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllieSF View Post
    I like all my genes except for the baggy ones. I know that Karren hates genes and thinks that they are quite unfeminine. I like those other people's genes because they tend to fit tighter and hug my skinny legs better than those genes that I should be wearing because of my makeup. They mostly make me look better and feel better too. Genes last a long time. I don't think that I have any frayed genes or genes with holes in them, is that OK? Though I do have some very old genes. Most of my genes are blue, is that bad?? My genes are very easy to wash because I can mix them with any colors and they do not absorb those other colors. They are also very easy to fold to store away until I need or want to use them. I am so happy that Mr. Levi Strauss invented them. They seem to fit right into my overall makeup so well. Did I say that I also like makeup?
    Allie, that's just hilarious!

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    I'm blessed with the gene that makes me able to fix ANYTHING.
    I'm lacking the gene that would get me to actually do it in a timely manner.

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    Could you repeat the question?

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    Lorileah.
    Are you talking about generic Jeans?
    As a scientist, dont get mixed up in the arts

    You have been over thinking or looking at the internet too much.
    I joke with my doctor that I will go home and get a second opinion from my computer.
    It has an I7 processor inside.... Inside what?
    Well it must be good.

    My doctors reply, "There are too many doing that and it is a problem."
    Like you, in sports I am reactive so I was never a lover of sports.
    I think you have to be proactive.

    I was always defensive when younger so I got picked on a lot.
    I notice the thread is already divisive and like others it s about figures and not probability.

    My decisive process is often governed by emotion so chromosome wise I do not know where I stand.
    I will leave it to the expert analysts here and let my computer analyze me with a plugin from the internet.

    Did I answer your question? No...
    Did others answer it?

    Bye for now.
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    I dont know technical details but believe that i have soft heart, soft mind and soft dick else it is all in my mind which loves all parts of feminity

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