For those of you who venture out into public, how do you treat situations where someone speaks to you (if your voice clearly is not feminine)? I pretty much avoid situations where someone may attempt to speak to me because my voice would surely give me away. I wish I could develop a convincing female voice but I think it's not an option for me.
Alesha
You can give this a try: http://www.genderlife.com/voice-cons...n/voice-tutor/ . It is a "free" program she has posted on Youtube for MTF voice feminization. Hope you have success with your journey.
Donna
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Good luck with your voice training.
I'm pretty much fully aware that for the most part I'm just not going to pass. At 6'3" with really broad shoulders, square jaw, and big hands, the best I can do is to stride in with my head held high in classy attire and own the place. My silly voice isn't going to make much difference!
Lynn Marie
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I'm not so sure I pass and my voice is deep enough that I cannot really ever have a femme voice. I avoid speaking situations as much as possible, and when I need to speak, I soften it as much as possible. When I have tried to have a feminine voice, it sound too falsetto, like Minnie Mouse!
Stephanie
Exactly. I wish I looked good enough that my voice was my problem. If it is the last piece of the puzzle for you, good luck with the training. I'm still trying to find a dress that doesn't leave me looking like a big guy in a dress.Originally Posted by Lynn Marie
I speak more softly and get my range up a bit, seems to be satisfactory.
Work on your elegance,
and beauty will follow.
I gave up on that part a long time ago, too much work. I read a book by a noted CD Alison Liang and she said it's not how you sound, it's how you talk and what you talk about. That's pretty much the stance I adopted. In any case, people have no problem calling me Ericka(my club persona) at the club or if I'm out somewhere else. Like I always say, it's about who we are, not what we are. Works for me.
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Avoiding situations where you have to speak is best, but some are unavoidable. If you're walking down the street and someone says "good morning", Hello", etc. you pretty much have to answer back. I raise my pitch and speak softly and probably sound like Michael Jackson (when he was alive). I suppose you could wear a portable sound system and earphones to keep people from trying to talk to you.
[SIGPIC]http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=82706&dateline=137762 0356[/SIGPIC]Linda
Headphones! thats actually a good idea. Just have the headphones tucked into your bra or something and before you go into a place with public interaction like a store, pull them out and plug them into your phone. You dont even have to have music going lol. The appearance alone will deter people from interacting with you lol. Thats awesome.
I have a deep baritone voice which gets even worse when I have allergies...like...think Barry White and deeper. Sooooo not exaggerating. No hope for me on the vocal front.
That's a good question. Mine is more like Mika's one (between him and Andrej Pejic i'd say) than Barry White's but I don't know if I can speak hours with a higher and softly voice than my natural one. Some girls have lower voices so maybe it will be ok.
"Fashion is neither moral or immoral, but it is for rebuilding the morale" Karl Lagerfeld
If you pass as female it adds to the fun to reply in a deep male voice when asked a question. I am sure it would throw many off there guard and funny to boot
I usually speak softer and raise my voice just slightly. I also have a deep baritone voice. I sing Karaoke and sing male and female songs. I always sing with a little more whisper in my voice and up higher when singing. I had once situation where the song went out of range and I had to drop down. A guy came up afterwards and asked if I was a guy..........oops
I had a friend who at the time was a high school music teacher. She helped me raise my voice to sound like most females. Practice, practice, practice and once you find your femme voice do not try to switch back and forth. That just does not work for most people.
Ya, the Berry White is where im most comfortable, but if i really push my voice, the highest i can go is something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3h...e_gdata_player.
I still cant hit the higher notes at the climax of the song. On the plus side, i can match pitch with his normal singing. My voice feels tired afterwards though. I love this song.
Its not the voice, it's the attitude. If you're comfortable, smile and modulate a little, if everything else looks good, the voice may not be that big an issue.
Likes my here. I don't do anything. I just go out and be. My voice is like many close to Barry white or Isaac Hayes. So don't do anything about it. I meet people and talk to them. I used to avoid talking but that's no fun. I LOVE to talk. So avoiding a conversation is not gonna happen.
You think. " We'll you pass so well nobody cares ". No I don't. I am 6' 3" and I weigh something.
Life's to short to hide.
You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because your all the same
I am out and about all the time in the mainstream world..and I just speak..There is more than my voice that would "clock me" to the "keen observer" lol
It SURE is my hair ! I have the receipt and the box it came in !
I do a Mick Jagger... And nod and smile a lot
I go out with a friend in SF two/three times a week and always have conversations with those around us and have never tried to change my voice. What happens, is they are more involved with the conversation and are quickly disarmed. Some are curious as to why I do what I do and compliment me on dress, hair, etc. Bottom line is, the voice doesn't make the person.
" I love the life I live and I live the life I love"
I soften my voice a bit and speak in a slightly higher tone than usual and just go with it.
I don't wear women's clothes, I wear MY clothes !
Hi,
Wether one accepts or not wont really matter. i had a bit of help. & no one helped no voice training, or any out side well what ever ones does,
Now i have spoken to large groups of people many 100's plus because i do photography i get people to move to where i need them to be . many from our groups some few 100 at different times so they hear me quite well.
Now i did & do sing in choirs so have a good range with that from barotone to soprano now im not saying real low or high just a medium range,
yet that did not do much. yet my voice did change some years ago. with out myself trying to. my own hormones did the work for me. because of my difference it worked quite well i was a bit surprised yet really it was just another little detail that took place or the start of 20 years ago. there were other changes going on then as well.
One interesting point is my brain / mind went into a female mode. part of what i am any way. how to explain, its like the controler in the brain took my voice & changed it from where it was to where it is now, like i said accept or not, my hormones because of that difference does & can change details , & with out outside help. Its just part of my makeup or how my body works, I know some have said it cant happen.... well thats okay . try being weird things happen.....
...noeleena...
Clearly there are two different schools of thought here. One to look, act, and sound like a female and two, to go out dressed in women's clothes and not worry about the rest.
I think the OP is trying to do the first.
If you seriously listen to and study the female voice you'll find it's not only the pitch, but the resonance and the inflections of the voice. Many females talk in a pitch that's lower than some males, but it's still a female voice.
Another thing - A female will typically use many more words to make a point than a man. For example, someone asked my wife how she found the breeder where we bought our new puppy. I would have said "She is a relative of someone at the gym I go to." Before I could answer however, my wife said "Well someone at our doctor's office had a relative who had some and we went and saw them but they looked too big and their tails weren't docked so we were still looking around but then someone at the gym had an aunt who was a breeder and had two so we went and looked but thyey were too small to bring home so we picked one out and went back and got her when she was old enough to leave her mother."
[SIGPIC]http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=82706&dateline=137762 0356[/SIGPIC]Linda
When ever I am in the car, alone of course, I read everything I can out loud and after a short while you can feel the difference in your voice. I dont think I have a femme voice, but I can sure tell when the man drops in.
The You tube link mentioned earlier is very good too
Bobbi
Aint nothin gonna happen that aint supposed too!
Nothing. I don’t even try, not even “vocal fry,” and I don’t know why...
I'm out and about pretty frequently.
Oh I would love to be able to speak with a fem voice for those very few times that I'm in an awkward situation. Ladies rest rooms are up there. So the references are helpful.
99% of the time though, I just use my normal happy male voice. Folk aren't surprised (guess I don't pass either) and their accepting attitude seems to reflect my honesty. Freedom to talk reduces the loneliness of a crossdresser and generates some rewarding interchanges.
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