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    Getting Here

    Prompted by Suzie on another thread 'So many new girls!', I thought I'd provide my story as to how I became a member of the site.

    Despite periodic furtive bouts since my teens of succumbing to wearing lingerie, lipstick or nail polish, etc, I never accepted I was a CD. At the end of every bout, I felt ashamed, full of guilt and resolved to never do it again.
    In truth and as I think about it, I probably had CD inclinations as a child. One of my earliest memories was with my mother while she was dressing. I suppose I was only 4 or 5 at the time. This was my first memory of ladies undergarments and remember well she wearing a rubber girdle that fascinated me and a memory that has stayed with me all my life (over 50 years).

    In more recent years while discussing our childhood with my other siblings and in the company of extended family, one of my older brothers gleefully recounted how I used to like to dress up simulating dresses/skirts with towels etc. I would always go red to the gills when this was raised and deny it as a figment of their imagination.

    I have constantly struggled to suppress this tendency but on certain occassions the desire became overwhelming and I would give in. I never accepted I was a CD. In fact being a CD was only one of the thoughts that crossed my mind. I questioned as to whether I may be gay, whether I wanted to change my gender to female or whether I was just simply perverted or whatever. In any case, I didn't want to do it. Having questioned myself for so long, I realise I am attracted to and sexually aroused by women but have no attraction to men. I also feel primarily male and have no burning desire to change my sex other than if I could magically do it for short periods of time. I felt somewhat perverted, couldn't control it and hated this side of my personality. I kept these thoughts bottled up inside my entire life, not sharing with anyone and always petrified that some day I would be discovered. As a result I've always had somewhat low self-esteem. I've felt like a fraud hiding my uncontrollable perversion and that some day I would be found out for what I really am.

    Over the years, I made one attempt to come out to my wife about 12 years ago. Had I the benefit of the advice of members of this site, I would never have done what I did. I had been on a business trip to the US where I purchased some lingerie for myself ... a gorgeous set of red suspenders, panties and stockings from Victoria's Secret. On such trips, I would often buy some for my wife (who is only about half my size ... so no possibility of sharing) or buy her a dress or something like that. She would often compliment me on my bravery to shop in the women's section, on my taste and on getting sizing correct etc. Anyway, on returning home I took advantage of any private time to dress secretly in the lingerie. One night after going to bed, I decided to interrupt our foreplay and come out to my wife by putting on the lingerie and getting back into bed. God, I shudder to think about it and how stupid I was to do this out of the blue with no warning. Anyway, she was immediately turned off and would have nothing to do with me. I explained it to her as a one off and by a desire to just try something different and add some spice to our love life. She was having none of it. Luckily, we got over this and the subject was never raised again.

    In early February, I started my most recent bout of dressing in women's lingerie. I had two extremely near misses of discovery by my wife. I was putting myself through torture as to what I would do if discovered and what it might do to our relationship. Above all, I felt she would lose trust and that could jeopardise our whole relationship. My wife and our relationship is the most important thing in my life and it's unthinkable that I would compromise this by CD'ing. However, at age 56 and despite being a very slow learner I finally realised that I would not be able to stop and that these cycles would continue. I think this is when I first accepted that I was at least a CD and possibly perverted. Having accepted this, I felt that the only way to handle this was to tell my wife that I was a CD. Remembering the previous disastrous attempt I needed a way to tell her.

    It's somewhat strange considering the availability of the internet for nearly 20 years now, that I never really researched my predicament. I think this was partly because I just did not want to accept it. It was also partly because I know that if you look up these things on the internet that quite often it will just throw up pornography. I did not want this because this would only add to my sense of it being a perversion. Over the years, the only articles I read about it was the occasional agony aunt article that came up in the newspaper. I know that these articles often suggested consulting a therapist.

    While I accepted I was a CD, I don't understand it. So I thought that it may be worth consulting a therapist. This could help me finally understand myself better but perhaps demonstrate to my wife that I was willing to get help to deal with it, especially if she were to receive the news badly. I started to look up therapist's in my local area and specifically targeting my internet search toward therapists and psychlogists. This threw up some articles with some of the most interesting stating that while CD'ing is practiced by a relative small percentage of people, it is generally accepted by the professionals as within the normal range of behaviour. This meant a lot to me as it places it outside the realm of perversion.

    Anyway, while researching, I came across this site. My initial inclination was that it would just be another porn type forum or something like that. Had I needed to sign up to read the threads, I probably would not have bothered. However, as it's open to casual browsers, I read a few threads. It was a revelation and I think it may just change my whole outlook on life and most importantly about how I feel about myself. I could read about people having exactly the same experiences as myself, the same self doubts, the same thoughts etc. I signed up that very night that I discovered the site.

    What I was reading on the site is proof to me that I'm not abnormal ... there are many other people that are just like me. More so there are many people that have come to terms with who they are and indeed love this part of their personality. This got me thinking about myself, how I would only reluctantly accept I'm a CD and how I really wish I could turn off this side of my personality. I began to feel that this is a part of my personality that I want to get to know. This is a part of who I am and that the path to overcome my endless anguish and low self esteem is to embrace it. I told my wife about my CD'ing on or about the same time that I came across the site. To my enormous relief and delight she accepted my CD'ing and did not see any harm in it. I started to experience euphoria between changing my whole perspective about CD'ing combined with my wife's acceptance.

    I have been brought back down to earth a little by finding out that while my wife accepted it, she is not enthusiastic about it and prefers I do it out of her presence. When I found this out, I was not taken by surprise as I had already read about members of this site having that experience. Of more importance I had read advice from many on how to handle this and especially to consider where the other person is coming from.

    With my limited experience of the site, I feel that the stories and advice of the many other members is like the instruction manual and guide that every CD should have at their disposal. In the last few weeks I'm feeling much better about myself and eager to learn more about the part of me that I've suppressed for so long. I also feel I have become a much more affectionate person ... as they say it is difficult to love someone else if you don't love yourself.

    Anyway, it's a long winded story but that is how I got here and why I think I'll hang around for a while. My only regret is that I didn't find a shortcut and it took so long to arrive. I now see myself as just beginning a new adventure and feeling very excited about it especially feeling the security, guidance and support that is so willingly shared by the members of this site.

    This should probably have been an introduction when I joined the site, but I suppose, at that stage I didn't know who to introduce.
    Last edited by SandraB; 03-15-2015 at 07:30 PM. Reason: fix spelling

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    Great post, welcome aboard!

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    Sandra,

    That was a wonderful account of your jurney thus far, thank you for sharing it.
    There is so much to say to that although not much new really. It all sounds quite familiar.

    I was surpriced to read that your wife accepted this now! What do you think has changed since the first time? My thought is that she was not at all interested in having it as part of your intimate relationship, but as just a "hobby" of yours, she is ok with it!

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    Sandra, pretty common story. Funny isn't it? We all think we're the only ones... Welcome.

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    Sandra,
    Your story is so similar to many of us and I'm glad you now realise and accept it's something you can't change and can now go on to enjoy with less shame and guilt ! As you say you thought all CD sites were porn related until you found this one but don't forget that this section is an open forum so any personal details can be seen by anyone,it's easy to fall into that trap !
    As for your wife's acceptance, it may or may not happen, each person is different so another member's situation may not relate to yours but others will help you if needs be .

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    Well thought out post and wonderfully articulate. Similar to my story in feeling broken and faulted. My wife has thawed and does it for me, with me. Has helped me shop, dress, shave and apply polish on toenails.

    Glad you've made peace with the feelings. I'm still skirting around it hoping it's simply a fetish. But it's becoming clearer that it's more than that. I'm also pretty new here, but welcome.

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    Welcome to the community Sandra, your story was a great read. Glad that your beginning to explore those urges and feelings. Like you, I have been through a lot of confusion and anxiety because of this desire to crossdress, but i'm really glad that I found this forum because it's given me a lot of insight to what crossdressing is and what it means to me. I feel that i'm a lot more open to explore my choices now. I hope we can help you just as much Sandra

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    You are hitting home about feeling so shameful and guilty after a session. Religion also adds to the shame and guilt, and feeling like a pervert. Though, there may be perverts who crossdress, many more don't crossdress.. But, many in western society still do consider any man who dresses, as a deviant or pervert. Snail slow in changing that. It can, however, completely take over one's life, if we let it. I am a 60 yo bachelor, and the women i have been interested in, consider it a deal breaker, no go.

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    Sandra:

    Thanks so much for taking the time and courage to tell your story. You've probably realized that many of us share your story, or something very similar. I'm a little older but the story is similar. Once my wife became more accepting I was liberated. No more pretenses and no more need to pose as a macho man. I could be myself more. I've found I am far more loving and patient now because I'm no longer fighting my inner demons and trying to pose as some perception of what a man is.

    I'm still on the journey and don't dress in full femme mode around my wife, but I can relax in a dress, heels, jewelry and such and she's fine with that. She seems to enjoy the more sensitive, less judgmental me.

    Enjoy the journey and welcome!
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    I feel as if I'm one of the lucky ones whereas my gf has no problems with my cd's. She's actually painted my toenails, has bought makeup for me and we've gone shopping for clothes too. We're both very close in size so she'll try out an outfit plus she'll share her opinion on whether it would look good on me or not.
    I hope at some point in the future that your wife will get more involved with your cd. I know my gf says I seem happier and I am but it helps having her be so supportive and no longer having this secret hanging over my head has freed me to bring that feminine side that I've kept hidden for so long.

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    WELCOME. I know you were here first, but welcome back, or into your new status, or whatever. Glad to meet you and to read your story.

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    Like the Countess said, a very well written and articulate introduction. I usually avoid long posts, but yours is so well done that I stuck with it all the way through. Welcome to our silly hobby, sport, fetish, passion, avocation, obsession, etc. CDing with friends is so much more fun than peering out at the world through the keyhole in the closet door.

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    Sandra what a wonderful and similar story, thanks for sharing, and lots here agree with you.
    Enjoy this great place.
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    Sandra,
    May you keep on progressing successfully through life, may your relations with your wife improve although slowly and a nice story to read.

    Good luck.
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    Thanks all for the welcome and the nicest feedback is that there is nothing new in my story. I am just normal and I CD like many other normal people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie Petersen View Post
    I was surprised to read that your wife accepted this now! What do you think has changed since the first time? My thought is that she was not at all interested in having it as part of your intimate relationship, but as just a "hobby" of yours, she is ok with it!
    Quote Originally Posted by Riley1 View Post
    ... how did you approach telling your wife about CDing?
    I think the difference in reaction comes down to my approach - I don't think she has changed over the years.

    I have always considered my wife to be open-minded. However, the first time when in the process of foreplay, I suddenly put on lingerie and jumped back into bed. My wife had no forewarning of this as I never displayed any inclination of being anything other than total masculinity. I think she was in shock and had no idea what this meant. She did raise the possibility of I being gay. I think this raised questions about the whole basis of our relationship and what she had gotten into (eventhough we were married about 16 years at the time). It must have been devastating for her and I never gave this any consideration in advance of doing what I did.

    Having had this experience, I put a lot of thought and soul-searching before I told her the second time. First of all I accepted I was hopelessly a CD. I knew I had to tell her - I just couldn't continue to deal with all the personal anguish. I thought about how she may react and that there was a possibility she would not accept it. I knew that I loved her and that our relationship was more important than anything. If our relationship was on the line, I was willing to do anything I could to save it. knowing I could not stop myself I was fully prepared to engage in therapy to help. At the same time I knew I had to be totally honest in telling her about it, how I felt etc. I could not afford to fudge any of the details - it would just come back to bite me.

    Having done the preparation, I spent a day or two waiting for the right time to tell her. I was petrified and must have been obvious I was on edge. Anyway, the 'right time' did not seem to arise of itself. Finally, while watching tv, I had a few glasses of wine (probably not a great idea) and then asked her to turn down the tv because I wanted to discuss something with her. I started by outlining how much I love her and that our relationship was the most important thing to me. Then I just told her everything as honestly and openly in so far I was able. I explained that I don't undertand it, that I have been this way all my life and that I could not suppress it. She fairly quickly responded that she saw no harm in it and that she accepted it except that she never wanted to make love while I was dressed. This was a huge relief but eventhough I got this acceptance I continued to tell her everything I knew about it. That was it.

    I thought I totally had the green light - it was only over the next few days I felt there was no enthusiasm.

    I went back a few days later to discuss this with her. I've had enough speculating about these things myself and feel the only way to really understand is to discuss it. I realise sometimes a person cannot explain why they feel the way they do, but if that is the case, then it 's worth knowing rather than jump to the wrong conclusion. She explained that when I first told her, her initial thoughts were that i was going to tell her something much worse such as having an affair or that our relationship was in trouble or something like that. So she was greatly relieved when I told her I CD'ed. Despite this she re-iterated her acceptance and not seeing any harm in it. It was just she never thought it would be her husband. While I like to CD she is wired differently and does not like to look over to see her husband in a dress. We then agreed the boundaries and to continue and openly discuss how things are going. While I let her know that this was very fair, I also let her know I would ultimately love for her to be fully comfortable with it. She did not rule it out, but she was not there now.

    Just like my story at the beginning of the thread, there is nothing new here either. The threads on this site are filled with similar experiences and excellent warnings and advice to go with it. For anyone thinking of taking some risky step I cannot emphasise enough how valuable a resource this site is in helping prepare for it.
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    thank you Sandra, eloquent and well considered.
    I'd say that with a wife willing to consider it, there might be hope for her reviewing her opinion on your dressing, over time, if she sees you're still her man through it all, and that really it's a clothing style, men wore hose and skirts for millenia!
    Good luck and best of wishes and hopes in how it now goes.
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