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    Question "Cinderella syndrome". Can someone explain this to me?

    I need some help here. Remember, I'm the guy that was just a man with NO gender issues until I was over 50.

    I just watched the new Cinderella movie. Of course, the star is gorgeous. One of those willowy girls with long arms, legs, neck, and must have had a 20", or less, waist while wearing that corset in the ballroom scene.

    My issue is with my thots while watching her and that scene in particular. I wanted to look like that! But, I don't understand why?

    Back in the day I would have just admired how sexy and stunning she looked and imagined myself dancing, (and maybe doing other things), with her.

    But, today I could only imagine myself being her. Dancing as effortlessly she did in those 10+ petticoats, wearing a corset to match her slim waisted look. And, I thot of how I could create a dress and look like that? The rest of her look, face, hair, etc., I already know how to copy.

    I realize many girls may want to look like that. But, you'll walk out of the movie and forget about it. I won't, until I do my best to imitate her ballroom look.

    Walking out of the theater, I couldn't help wondering why I wanted so badly to look like her? I'm not interested in attracting a prince. In fact, I don't even remember who the guy was in the movie. I have no interest in attending a formal ball or being the center of attention. Or, don't think I do, at least?

    This happens to me often. These things gnaw at me. I may not be able to sleep properly until I figure out how I can copy that look at the ball. Does anyone understand, or have, this same Cinderella copycat compulsion?

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    Sherry, you are one of a kind. I’m sure you will pull it off somehow. Now what did I do with that glass slipper.

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    Fear not Cinderfella, you shall go to the ball!
    I do have to admit that wearing that dress looked like fun, probably only for 5 minutes though, at which point I would be tired of knocking everything over.

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    Yeah I thought the same thing when I watched that movie, or whenever I see a beautiful woman really. I'd love nothing more then to look like them.

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    Sherry, considering the number of little girls I have seen in their pretty Cinderella dresses I'd say that you were just having a delayed reaction after a few decades of testosterone poisoning.

    And that's OK. We're all entitled to childhood fantasies, even if they are a bit tardy coming to us!
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    Sherry Baby,

    Everyone want's to look like Sinderella at least once in their lives.....

    I was 32, 20 26 when I was sixteen.

    Turn sideways and you could not see me.

    That is only in my dreams these days.

    I have filled out and gained maturity...

    Like an old block of Gorgonzola.....
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    This is a bit of a rabbit hole, but whenever a "why" question begins gnawing at me, I pretend I have the answer. At that point, I have the answer (allegedly) and then I ask myself whether that changed anything. If you suddenly knew why you were fixated on dancing Cindy, would that change the attraction?

    That's a big ol' NOPE! So if the situation does not move or change based on whether you know "why," then why ask why? It's a ton of wasted energy. You love Cinderella's look and you want to replicate it to the best of your ability. That calls for a "YIPPEE!" and that's that. Go for it, enjoy the feeling, never sweat the why again.

    (But P.S., the dime-store psychologist in me says we fixate on these beautiful creatures because we understand the blissful feeling of being ensconced in absolute prettiness and femininity, just as they do, and this feeling, which for men is supposed to be untouchable and foreign, gives us a unique and secret connection to those beauties. My gut says this is why most of us come out to women in our lives first - because we want to expose and share this connection to their universe.)
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    I go wsith Eryn's answer. Nearly every little girl wants to be a Princess, especially a Cinderella Princess. We just never had the opportunity as little girls so we want it as big girls.

    Just go with the feeling and enjoy it! (There might be adult Cinderella costumes in the Disneyland shops [[not sure] but I'm reasonably sure there will be adult Cinderella costumes for Halloween).

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    Sherry, I think that most kids want to "be" whatever figure is served to them via popular media. Disney is big business and so little girls did want to be Cinderella (and witches and Tinkerbell) ... although now they want to be Elsa from Frozen, who I might add is a great deal more empowered than was Cinderella. My boys wanted to be Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, Spiderman, and scary monsters. All this is for Halloween of course. When I was little and play-acted with my friends, it didn't occur to us to be Cinderella or other fantasy characters. We usually played House (when we weren't playing Barbies), and we all wanted to be the mommies, so we had to take turns. There are more things available for kids today than when I was a child, so it may well be that children put on costumes outside of Halloween for play-acting, but if they do I think they grow out of it by the time they are 8 or 9.

    As to wanting to be a princess, I don't think I ever had that aspiration. If other little girls want to be princesses, sadly they grow up to find out they need to support themselves and there really is no such thing as Prince Charming. Not with today's divorce rates. So my definition of the Cinderella Syndrome is different than yours. To me, it means an unrealistic expectation that a man will appear who will take care of you. But, maybe I say that because I am a casualty of divorce.

    Back to you, I think you should just go for it! You have the time and the means! But if you do create the Cinderella look, please don't go for the Disney blue dress. Try to find a dress that shimmers like the color of moonlight.

    <edit> I need to clarify. It's not sad that girls need to support themselves or join their husbands in supporting the family, this is a good thing. It's just sad if some girls grow up believing in the Cinderella values to eventually find out it was all a myth.
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    You simply have your own "standards of excellence" when CDing RS. Obtaining a particular look is part of that.
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    Doc, it's not only Cinderella. Or a princess. Some like the look of a pretty woman wearing a Victorian dress and want that look for themself. Or a bride. I see a sexy maid and want to create the look for myself. So I sat down at the computer with my debit card in hand. The same thinking drove me to buy a cheongsam and black China bob wig, and a Japanese schoolgirl sailor uniform. And some naughtier looks. OK a few regular outfits, too. Living the fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docrobbysherry View Post
    I need some help here. Remember, I'm the guy that was just a man with NO gender issues until I was over 50.
    I don't have, and have never had gender issues, Sherry, however, I often see some women, not just Cinderella type women, and wish I could be her or look like her.

    While watching Phantom of Opera, I felt a deep connection with Christine (Emmy Rossum) in one scene, that I never felt with another woman.

    All a part of being trans in some degree, IMHO.
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    I think that most every girl that sees Cinderella or Snow White has that desire to be them. What could be better than being Cinderella at the ball, dancing with a handsome prince.
    Secretly we all want that Fairy Tale ending to our story...and there's nothing at all wrong with that.

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    Honestly, I've never wanted a prince, and I really dislike Disney's obsessive adulation of monarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl T View Post
    What could be better than being Cinderella at the ball, dancing with a handsome prince?
    I'm only answering for myself, but staying home and having pillow fights with the "naughty" step sisters sounds like more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinaZ View Post
    (...) staying home and having pillow fights with the "naughty" step sisters sounds like more fun.
    Amen to that, Tina.

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    Oddly, I didn't want to be Cinderalla or anyone like that. Maybe I felt too vulnerable as a kid already to want to be a fictional character that gets saved from danger by a male character, because I distrusted other males to a great extent. What I wanted to be, was Supergirl.
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    I played one of Cinderella's ugly sisters in a second grade production of "Cinderella", that's as close as I got. This was also my first experience at crossdressing, I was 7. Good luck making your dream a fantasy reality!!! Hugs Jaymee
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    Sherry, ah to be one with Cinderella, fantasy has a way to inflict us on that. Yep if you get a ballroom dress. Where would you wear it? In the house you would knock a lot of things over. Perhaps prancing down the street. Yes we all had a revelation to imitate our hero's. I can understand that.
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    For me it was the movie Grease and Back to the future.I just loved the petticoats and yes it did take me a while before i purchased them but do not reget it So i say just go for it Sherry you have worn so many other amazing outfits and look great .To me this just a progression in where you want to go .Have fun and enjoy
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    I've had the same exact feelings.
    I mean you're absolutely correct, she is beautiful.
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    Thank u all for your comments. So many different takes on this that I didn't expect!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    --------------------------------- So my definition of the Cinderella Syndrome is different than yours. To me, it means an unrealistic expectation that a man will appear who will take care of you. But, maybe I say that because I am a casualty of divorce.
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    <edit> I need to clarify. It's not sad that girls need to support themselves or join their husbands in supporting the family, this is a good thing. It's just sad if some girls grow up believing in the Cinderella values to eventually find out it was all a myth.
    As a boy/man, I grew up on the other side of your "Cinderella Complex", Reine. Expecting to one day meet my sweet, loving Princess. Eventually I did meet, court, and marry her. Only to find that not long after the ceremony she outgrew her wedding gown. And, that 7 years later my sweet, loving princess had suddenly turned into the bi Wicked Witch of the West! Men expect women to remain the same after marriage. But, they often change. My ex revealed there were things about me she didn't like at first. She hoped to change them. I didn't change. She did. We were BOTH disappointed!
    Last edited by docrobbysherry; 04-08-2015 at 10:33 PM.
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

    Challenge yourself and pursue your passions! When your life clock runs out, you'll have few or NO REGRETS!

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    I agree. We cannot marry someone expecting to change them. Or, expecting them to stay the same. lol

    Also, with the major gender shifts in our culture since the 60s, I wonder if fewer parents are raising their daughters to believe in the Cinderella values (you will grow up, marry, be taken care of, and live happily ever after) in favor of telling them they need an education and they need to be in charge of themselves. This is reflected even in the Disney culture, certainly with Mulan (1998), Merida (2012), Elsa in Frozen (2013) and I'm sure others that I'm missing.


    ... now Disney only needs to start making their heroines more like average women and less like the gorgeous model media ideal.
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    I'm with sometimes_miss, I was drawn to Michelle Pfieffer's Catwoman, Supergirl, Firestar, anyone confident with a real clingy costume.
    Having said that, if the opportunity arose, I wouldn't turn my nose up at a multitude of petticoats.
    Then came a curious hesitation. Was my appearance really credible?
    I was grotesque to the theatrical pitch, a stage miser, but I was certainly not a physical impossibility.
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