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    Prostate surgery

    I have been adviced by doctors to go for prostate surgery (Laproscopy)
    Not sure whether this will affect my sexual feelings.
    whether I will be more feminine?
    Any experience?

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    Ask your doctor.

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    I believe prostate meds MAY have initiated my dressing!
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

    Challenge yourself and pursue your passions! When your life clock runs out, you'll have few or NO REGRETS!

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    Not really relevant. If the Doctors say you need removal of the prostate, whether by Laproscopy or another method, not doing it is stupid in the extreme. The effect it will have on you from a Femininity aspect is nothing to the very bad effects not doing it will have. ( i.e. death )
    "Normal is what you get when you average out the weirdness that everybody has." Quote from my SO

    Normal is a setting on a washing machine, or another word for average.

    The fact that I wear a skirt as a male should not be taken as a comment on what you do, or do not wear, or how you wear it.

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    Please as Tracii said, ask you doctor, however understanding that you may be nervous and perhaps have some cultural inhibitions regarding asking some of your questions then hopefully some of the following information may help you to have a better understanding to talk with your doctor.

    The prostate is a secondary sexual organ. It does not produce any of the sex hormones, it's principal role is in producing the fluid that expands the volume and nourishes the spermatic fluid. As such it is generally thought not to have any effect on either sexuality or libido in and of itself nor is removal going to make your feel more "feminine" as it will not alter your hormonal balance. It does however have considerable number of nerves and it would seem some pathways that are involved in particular with the neurologic establishment of an erection and orgasm, hence the neurologic basis for erection and orgasm from prostate stimulation. Consequently as with any major surgery in the pelvic cavity (the space within the pelvic "box" containing the prostate, urethra and terminal rectum) either temporary or permanent damage may occur to these pathways that can cause a reduction in the ability to establish and maintain an erection and orgasm. The incidence of this is variable and affected by a number of factors including disease type (malignant vs benign swelling), severity, procedure used (Trans urethral Prostatectomy or TURP is generally the procedure of choice in western hospitals) and probably most importantly experience of surgeon.

    Hopefully that helps you but please do ask your doctor and surgeon those questions as they will be able to give you much better information on their experienced rate of complications.

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    Surgery for prostate enlargement, BPH, should not make you feel more feminine. Or less so. Ask your doctor about the latest laser Green Light or Holep procedures that have supplanted the TURP method. Less hospital stay and faster recovery with less side effects.

    Ineke

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    I had half my prostate removed by ultrasound ablation (heating) last October.
    It was a complete success.
    What I have noticed is that hair is growing back on my head.
    Whether that is to do with less male hormone being produced, I hope to find out when I next see
    my consultant in two weeks time.
    My desire to CD has not changed at all (if anything it is stronger).

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    I had my prostate removed due to cancer, November 2002. There are no changes in feelings, in any way.
    I hope you have a full and speedy recovery.

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    I am not sure why your doctors are recommending surgery. I had my prostrate removed in 2005 by robotic laparoscopy (the Da Vinci procedure), and that is the reason why I started crossdressing and maybe more. I am not sure what the prostrate does, but there are seminal glands around it that produce the semen that we eject when we climax. I had prostrate cancer. The removal of the cancerous material (the prostate gland) was a success. However, I suffered from the typical and un-wanted side affects, incontinence and impotence. Why, because the important nerve bundles that surround the prostate gland were unfortunately damaged.

    This is a serious matter. I have never heard of removing the prostate gland due to non-cancerous situations. So, I am assuming that you have prostate cancer. Is that correct? Removing the prostate gland can have serious side affects. It does not affect who you are directly, nor your sexual feelings in the sense of desiring sexual relations where your erect and hard penis works and is part of the process, but it can stimulate other brain activities that may influence your interest in crossdressing. I still have the same desires for sexual intimacy. I regret the prostate cancer. I do not regret my new (9 years old) interest in crossdressing. Talk more with your doctor to understand why removal is necessary and what are the possible side affects. What is important is that what happened to me may not happen to you since we are all different. Good luck.

    Before my surgery, crossdressing was not known to me and I had no interest in it. However, after with the loss of my sexual functioning (erections) and my incontinence (leaking urine), it did. I felt ( and still feel) like half a man, i.e. non functioning penis, and looked for alternate ways of satisfying my needs. My initial sexual satisfaction from wearing panties was quickly replaced eventually by my desire and pleasure, non-sexual, of dressing as a woman and going out to interface and interact with strangers in the real world. That continues to this day and is a new and very important part of who I am.

    So, in answer to your question, I believe that it will not make you more feminine, but the side affects of the surgery may make you more accepting to crossdressing and all that it entails.

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    Well now that that has been cleared up, what is your next question?

    Seriously, your doctor should have explained all the possible consequences and side effects of your surgery (except the one about it causing crossdressing) to you. If he or she didn't, you should ask. Getting a second opinion is never a bad idea either.

    In addition to your doctor, you can get a lot of information from the Internet. Not from crossdressing forums but from medical sites.

    Best of luck, I hope it goes well.

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    FWiW.... about 15 years ago, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and had my prostate removed.
    Fortunately the cancer did not spread yet and the surgery was a complete success. I am now totally cancer free.
    MY sister was a RN at the time (same hospital ) and told me the doctor was known as the absolute best for this.

    BTW, a couple of friends, and also a neighbor who also had prostate cancer but refused surgery all died horrible deaths as the cancer spread.

    I can only relate my experience of course.
    As far as sexual feelings ...I am still functional as I can sill get erections occasionally but of course not as before. Nerves are still intact for that.
    I can even get a great feeling of an orgasm even if there is no ejaculation or erection..... sort of like a female.
    MY doctor said Viagra would solve this and gave me some free samples but, I decided not to even try it .
    Anyway, even if I do not get an erection, I still get sexually aroused.

    As far as feeling more feminine...... the fact that I no longer fully function as a male and more as a female does male me feel more feminine
    I don't know how else to describe it .
    Last edited by Barbara Jo; 07-18-2015 at 01:06 PM.

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    If you want to live, consider removal vs radiation therapy.

    If they open you up and find an aggressive tumour and remove it you are on a winner.

    Have radiation therapy and there is still a lot of guesswork involved.

    It's not about sexual gratification, it's about living.

    Would you be more feminine pushing up daisies.

    Listen to the surgeons answers carefully.
    Work on your elegance,
    and beauty will follow.

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    I had mine removed 12/15. Just a couple weeks with a catheter, some minor leakage now and then. Mine was removed robotically and Im happy I went that route. mentally I still have sexual feelings but physically nothing yet, although it could take at least 18 months according to the doctor time will tell.I m glad I chose the robotic method.

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    When I took the second opinion from my family doctor in India, He informs that there is a slight calcification and it is manageable with medicines without any operation.
    Also advised to consult Urologist in India.
    I am making 2 weeks short trip to India which was already pre-planned for Aug-15 to accomplish pending priorities.
    Thanks to all my friends for the valuable support.
    I am flying tonight and will be back to Dubai by end of this month.
    Warm regards to all.

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    I would strongly encourage you to do some research on prostate cancer, enlarged prostate, prostate surgery and related subjects. In 1998, my PSA was 4.6, just slightly out of the normal range. My primary care doctor sent me up to urology. The urologist told me I probably had cancer, and needed my prostate out. He kept shoving his card at me and telling me he was a good surgeon and could spare the nerves. I said I'd think about it. He was quite insistent. As I was walking down the hall, he was standing in the doorway of the exam room yelling at me, "You're going against medical advice". I went back down to my primary care doctor and told her what happened. I said "That guy just wants to cut on me". So she sent me to the oncologist, who was not a surgeon. He examined me carefully every four months for several years. Finally one day he said, "You don't have cancer. I don't know why they sent you to me". Meanwhile my PSA got all the way up to 48, which at the time was considered a sure sign of cancer. Twice, two years apart, I went into the emergency room because I couldn't pee, and they put in a catheter. They kept telling me I needed my prostate out. But the problem was not constant, and came and went. I suspected I had some kind of chronic low grade infection. Finally, in 2010, my primary care doctor, who replaced the earlier primary care doctor, did a urine test during my annual visit. The next day, I got a letter in the mail from her, saying I had a urinary tract infection, and she was prescribing an antibiotic. I don't think I can name it here. The drug came in the mail a day later. I took it, and have not had a problem since! I had stonewalled the urologists for 12 years, refusing a biopsy each time. They told me they couldn't help me if I didn't have a biopsy. And I feel totally vindicated! My PSA is back down in the normal range now. When I went for my annual checkup last year, I told her whatever they were paying her wasn't enough. She just laughed.
    I have several friends who have had their prostates removed, and they are all very unhappy campers! Do your research first before making a life changing decision!

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    A simple, quick (and almost painless) prostate biopsy done in a urologist's office will tell if you have prostate cancer or not.
    You can not tell by PSA levels alone.
    A high PSA level is just a red flag that more conclusive cancer tests are needed

    Yes, prostate removal can be life changing but, so is dying from prostate cancer.
    BTW, my former barber (who was also a childhood friend) died of prostate cancer about a year ago . The cancer spread throughout his body as he refused to have it taken care of and just self medicated in vain as he evidently valued his "manhood" more than his life.

    BTW, a parallel can be made to breast cancer in females.
    However, breast cancer is a topic that is discussed freely but the subject of prostate cancer seems to be a taboo subject.... particularly among men.
    Even when men die of prostate cancer, the family is reluctant to admit to the true cause of death .
    Last edited by Barbara Jo; 07-18-2015 at 06:22 PM.

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    I wish I had never had the cutting.
    should have gone drugs.
    both out comes. but with better benefits.

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    If you research prostate cancer, you will find that in most cases, it is very slow growing. Most men die with it, not from it. In a few rare cases, prostate cancer can be aggressive, but in most cases it is not. "Watchful waiting" has become the norm for most patients.

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    If you research prostate cancer, you will find that in most cases, it is very slow growing. Most men die with, not from it........

    It all all depends on what age you are diagnosed with cancer and how advanced it is.....and other health issues that suggest that an individual will most likely die sooner from that, than prostate cancer.

    While it is true that some men die with it, many men die from it .
    So, you can't say "most cases"

    The new thinking does take age and condition into account however.
    Last edited by Barbara Jo; 07-19-2015 at 07:48 PM.

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    Just to clarify something said above. Biopsies, with 6 to 12 or more samples can detect the cancer only if the biopsy is taken in an area where the cancer actually is. I had a friend that had several biopsies of several years. The last one finally contained some cancerous tissue. So, all the previous biopsies missed the cancerous areas. As far as I know, the only way you truly determine the Gleason score for prostate cancer is from a biopsy containing the cancer. While "watchful waiting" is a valid option, though I do not remember it being the norm for most, one still needs to know how aggressive and strong is the cancer to be able to make that decision. Assuming that the cancer is the slow growing type could be a death sentence.

    Jigna, as you are doing, a good analysis of whatever is causing you problems is needed. Prostates tend to grow larger as we age, sometimes squeezing the urethra causing us old males to dribble when urinating. As with any organ in the body, there may be more than one thing causing your issues. As others have already said, getting a second opinion is always highly recommended. Good luck and hopefully it is not cancer and is something that can be easily corrected or cured.

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    When I took second opinion in India, I was told there is only a Calcination over the Prostate gland due to accumulation of sperms and no need for surgery.
    Doctor advised me to do intercourse with my wife at least 3 times a week or do masturbation and take out sperms from body on regular basis.
    The slow urination problem will cure by itself.
    Thanks to all group members for the valuable support.

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    A medical opinion here. The calcifications happen regardless of frequency of intercourse. You need a third opinion and get it from a well trained urologist. However, must say the second opinion's treatment could be fun but is useless for the situation.

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    "Doctor advised me to do intercourse with my wife at least 3 times a week "

    I wish I could get my doctor to tell me that in front of my wife.

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    About five years ago my PSA went up. At this point I did a lot of research and talked to a Urologist who gives lectures to other doctors on the benefits and harms of the PSA test. After my research, I decided not to continue to get a PSA test. The whole subject of preventive screening for Prostate Cancer is very controvercial. I asked my Urologist; "Do Urologists get a PSA test". He said; "Some do and some don't". My advice to anyone is to do the research; Amarican Cancer Institute, American Urological Society, National Institute of Health and talk to a doctor who specializes in the area. If you have a problem, get a second opinion. If you need an operation, have someone who does a lot of operations. My friend had his prostate out at Mass General Hospital and the doctor has done over 5,000 operations. He had a good outcome. I think the right decision is the one where YOU feel you are doing the right thing. This is my first post. Hope it's OK.

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