I think I found out what happened to all the youngsters.

[Rianna Humble]

DeeAnn, you are of course, free to participate in any thread in these forums provided that you abide by the forum rules (as you have done so far here), but I cannot understand why you insist that your outsider's point of view trumps the knowledge and experience of all of us here who have transitioned?

Please allow that those who have first-hand knowledge of transition and of the fight that they had to put up to try to conform to expectations might actually know what they went through and that those of us who, in addition, support others who are going/have gone through the agonies of transition just might have some personal knowledge that does not chime with your theorising.

[Eringirl]

No, you both missed the point.

What I'm saying is that at certain points in our lives, we may have more slack to think about our lives introspectively and in more depth than at other times. Think about people who have transitioned in their 60's and 70's. They've been successful in suppressing their true feelings for 50+ years...


DeeAnn

Hi DeeAnn. I see the point you are trying to make. For me, and I can only speak for me, it depends on how you define "successful". If it is "staying alive", then okay, I was successful. If it is leading a happy and productive life all those years, well then, no...I failed miserably. I was NOT successful in "suppressing (my) true feelings"...

Having said that, since transitioning, I am now fulfilling the latter definition.....and good for me!!!

Erin

[Jennifer-GWN]

I know this is straying the op from topic a bit but to your point Erin... You've actually been successful in your career and many aspects of life despite the internal turmoil that tg brings and the impact on our lives. Perhaps some of the success is an aspect of overcompensation or a drive to find and deliver something good amidst the personal turmoil. I'd say the same thing to myself as well. Successful in my career yes... Mental struggles and personal impacts yes indeed but still consider myself successful and even more so can add HAPPINESS to the core now as well.

Apologies for the sidebar.

Cheers... Jennifer

[flatlander_48]

DeeAnn, you are of course, free to participate in any thread in these forums provided that you abide by the forum rules (as you have done so far here), but I cannot understand why you insist that your outsider's point of view trumps the knowledge and experience of all of us here who have transitioned?

For about 10 years I did a fair amount of personal introspection work in groups of various constituencies (Asians, Blacks, LGBT, raised poor, etc.). From that experience with human nature, 2 things become apparent: in a benign, non-judgemental environment, usually in about 5 minutes (or less!) you can tell what people are really struggling with and also that many things are more readily seen from an external perspective compared to an internal one. Also, is there even an experience that happens the SAME Way, every time? Considering the variance in the human experience, for any human experience, I would have to question that.

Please allow that those who have first-hand knowledge of transition and of the fight that they had to put up to try to conform to expectations might actually know what they went through and that those of us who, in addition, support others who are going/have gone through the agonies of transition just might have some personal knowledge that does not chime with your theorising.

I've NEVER said that what I offered was Either/Or. If you had that impression, then it was incorrect. The message was that it appears that some seemed to be on an alternate path as evidenced by the New York Time article. I don't know why their situations appear to be unique, but it is different. So, the question is what makes it different? How would you explain it? I don't know, but it suggests that there is more than one road to town. That's what I would like people to respond to.

DeeAnn

[Rianna Humble]

Sorry, you have taken this thread too far off topic. If you want responses to your media article. Create a thread in Media that follows the rules.

This thread is now over.