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    Yes, it's definitely different now

    Here I sit at the Vintage Wine Bar on Santana Row in the heart of Silicon Valley, enjoying a flight of Chardonnay and it really can't be more normal. I changed my avatar to a picture I just took before I headed out.

    My server knows I am not a GG and it couldn't matter a wit to him. That group of gals chatting away a few feet from me couldn't care less. Passers by smile at me. I even walked past a guy I work closely with and he didn't notice a thing nor care if he did.

    It it still feels great to be out and interact with the normals but the "rush" is totally different now. My heart is not beating faster than normal, I have zero stress and as much as I'd like to pass as a woman, I do not and it just doesn't matter.

    I don't go out all that much but the change over the last few outings has been remarkable. Crazy. What was I ever afraid of?



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    It depends on where one goes Cding. Some parts of town would not be so kind. You pick good venues a lot.

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    Alice, I am convinced it is not the "where" but the "how." "How" do you go about your business when you are out dressed? How do you interact? How do you carry yourself? How do you present for the time, place, event, etc?

    As I walked out the door today, into the bright sunshine, all I was thinking is I need to go to the bank before the wine bar. There is no reason I can't be out so why worry?

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    So glad you had a nice day out at the wine bar. You look great and relaxed. Hope you didn't catch any of the rain!

    Camille

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    Camille, you should've joined me. Next time, eh? No rain and the sun came out! I did have to wear a coat because it was bit cool as you know. Santana Row is a great place to go out.

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    You could not be more right, it is the "how". If the "where" is an issue, you probably shouldn't be there anyway, male or female mode.

    I have literally been out almost a hundred times over the past two years and have yet to have a single negative reaction. I have accumulated a significant number of friendships along the way, mostly with GGs.

    This past week I strolled into a restaurant between two men standing out smoking, obviously blue collar guys. While they may have rolled their eyes, they may have talked about me once I entered the restaurant, they said nothing to me as I passed like any one else. I couldn't help but think about having made that same walk a year ago. I would have at least waited for the doorway to clear, now I get out of my car and move forward like I would otherwise.

    Keep preaching the gospel, the world is changing. Sure it's much more slowly than we would all like, but it is changing.
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    Hell-o Jen,
    Thanks so much for the invite!
    My wheels are rolling, and I'm on my way
    to meet you there tonight.
    Hell, putting the two of us together amongst
    the muggles should be like slapping a pair of
    prescription lenses on society.
    (i'll bring some cash for bail just in case)

    Camille you should join us!
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    I laugh because there is nothing you can do about it!!!

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    Jennifer,
    Do you think you'll ever get to the point where you forget you're dressed ?

    Even now after a few short weeks of going to my meetings, I'll be talking to someone forgetting how I'm dressed but being reminded that when I cross my legs I catch someone with a heel or get it caught round a table leg. I may turn and answer someone else and find I'm showing more leg than I intended.
    An incident that made me smile afterwards, was when Carole brought some lovely blue shoes in for me to try , I slipped into total girl mode the way I slipped them on, and tried to walk in them, someone else saw me and came over to look at them so I passed them over and she tried them , annoyingly they fitted her, they were too tight for me . It all felt so natural !
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    Good for you Jen!

    ... a flight of wine? I've never heard of this. They line up wine glasses like beer?
    Reine

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    Reine, it's a wine tasting term. A flight is the selected wines for tasting (the number varies).

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    or whiskey...or scotch....or vodka. A flight just refers to smaller samples so you can taste

    Quote Originally Posted by Teresa View Post
    I may turn and answer someone else and find I'm showing more leg than I intended.

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    I usually get more relaxed after a flight of wine but just never have been dressed when I did it... Really you look great and you go gal. Right attitude and since I'm not out I can only live vicariously thru your post. Enjoy you look great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    Good for you Jen!

    ... a flight of wine? I've never heard of this. They line up wine glasses like beer?
    yep! 3 glasses, 3 oz each

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleScott View Post
    Reine, it's a wine tasting term. A flight is the selected wines for tasting (the number varies).
    If a flight of wine is as small as an airplane seat, I can understand the connection. Or do I?

    Ineke

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    Wine tasting. Makes sense. Just never heard it referred to as a flight before. Live and learn!
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    Jennifer if I was in that area I would have loved to have joined you.
    You are making a great point it is HOW you/we interact that makes it work.
    Enjoy being you and that is what matters most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teresa View Post
    Jennifer,
    Do you think you'll ever get to the point where you forget you're dressed ?...
    Teresa, yes, there are moments but those moments are fleeting and I am usually reminded I am dressed due to shifting my position, hair falling in my face, etc, etc... What is more striking to me is that my concern about being dressed is zero. It just is and no one seems to mind.
    Last edited by Jenniferathome; 04-24-2016 at 05:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Torn View Post
    It depends on where one goes Cding. Some parts of town would not be so kind. You pick good venues a lot.
    Every prudent person, TG, GG, or just ordinary folk, avoid the rougher parts of town. Nothing wrong with that.

    I go pretty much everywhere I want, from swanky private clubs to the grocery store. I've never been treated badly.

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    Shoot girl, you were in a nice part of Santa Clara. You could'a dressed just a bit less crazy than the person in Curt Schilling's meme and been ok. Lol!

    I do think trying to avoid attention makes you less of a target, but really, even in places less friendly than the Bay Area, it's mostly about being in the wrong place, at the wrong time, when the wrong people are present.

    I think you are more passable than you give yourself credit for. I haven't had the privilege of meeting you in person, but you look very good in your pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenniferathome View Post
    ............................... I even walked past a guy I work closely with and he didn't notice a thing nor care if he did. .........................
    jen curiosity has got me and i apologize if you have shared this already, are you out to anyone else but the mrs.,.....do your children or co-workers know jennifer,
    i hope to reach your comfort level sooner than later, just had my wig done and you have me thinking of going shorter.
    ....Mykell
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    No, just out to my wife. My kids are grown and out of the house and my cross dressing will never affect them. My need to cross dress is occasional only.

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    Jen and Tracii,

    If I visited southern CA, I'd love to go out with you gals...but you'd have to help me tone down my presentation. I know I wear too much makeup and I'd have to find a more appropriate dress to wear in public. Nikki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenniferathome View Post

    I don't go out all that much but the change over the last few outings has been remarkable. Crazy. What was I ever afraid of?
    Not Crazy at all. You were afraid of the same things that most of us are when we first start going out in public. We lack the confidence in ourselves to not behave in a foolish or dangerous way, and we lack confidence in others to do the same. The best way we get over it is to do it. We see the kind of story you post here and it helps with the second part, but we still have to find that inner strength to step out and begin to build the confidence you are displaying now.

    Getting out away from home seems to be the ticket for me, but once I'm out the door I've committed and must own it, regardless of where on planet Earth I might be.

    Good for you and good for our society as it shows all the signs of growing pains, hopefully leading to maturity.
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    Comfort and confidence says a lot plain and simple. You go girl!

    Cheers... Jennifer
    I am who I am... I'm happy...I mean truly to the bone happy...and at peace with myself for the first time ever. I'm confident and content as the woman I am.

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    Sarah,
    I do agree with you, it's easier away from home, you have no choice but to own it otherwise you just sit in the car !
    I'm having small things happen in my home area that I've had to deal with which is opening my situation up.

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