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    Tips for Beginners, Closets and Older Crossdressers

    Tips for Beginners, Closets and Older Crossdressers

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    The following tips are designed for the beginner, part time closet crossdressers who have to keep their pleasures secret from their wives and friends. These tips are from my own experiences as part time crossdresser.
    Background

    If you read on, you are probably like me; a crossdresser that loves the scene but can’t go out in public for reasons of discretion or really can’t ‘pass’ in public; and can’t afford to make too many obvious changes to your appearance. I actually have no desire to go out in public dressed; I have had many lovely encounters with other crossdressers and admirers without ever going out in public. I started out with just a lingerie fetish, graduated to wearing women’s clothes, then finally acquired a wig and make-up. But the process was slow and that is what I recommend in some of these tips. You cant be down the gym looking like a gorilla one day and then turn up as a hairless sissy the next; people will notice!

    A Hairy Subject

    One of the biggest challenges to the closet crossdresser is hair. Even if you are lucky enough to have sparse, light coloured body hair, it detracts from your femme appearance. It has to be dealt with, but in such a way that it is not obvious to your wife, girlfriend, friends, and workmates. As I said take it slowly.

    Beard: The easiest to deal with is facial hair. I always shave twice before dressing, particularly if I am having an ‘encounter’. I give myself the standard shave, with the grain, and always with shaving gel and a new blade. I then rinse and give myself a second shave, paying attention to those ‘raspy’ areas (run your hand against the grain of your beard to feel it) and ensuring I get in the corners of my mouth. Don’t forget to shave all over your cheeks too, that fine ‘bumfluff’ looks awful under make-up. Shave all the way down your neck to your collarbones. Finish with a light coating of moisturiser.

    Arms and Hands:If you cannot shave your whole body (gee think she would notice?) then you have to do the best you can. Your best weapon here is a beard trimmer; a cheap one will suffice providing it has an adjustable comb attachment. I really don’t worry too much about my arms; I buy long-sleeved tops with high necks. You can still look sexy. Hands are a real give-away however, and hairy fingers and backs of hands look awful (nail polish makes them look even worse when they are hairy!) So shave them! I shave the backs of my fingers and the backs of my hands about once a fortnight and that works fine. Shave your hands far enough back so that no arm hairs will show from under the sleeves of your long-sleeved tops. No one has ever noticed or made comment to me. If you are particularly hairy you may have to work at it slowly over a period of weeks so its not so noticeable. If you insist on displaying your arms and can’t shave them, at least run the beard trimmer over them to reduce the hair down as much as possible.

    Legs

    Without question every crossdresser wants to display sexy legs; and I believe they are easy to achieve. OK the biggest problem is hair, so what do we do. If you can't shave your legs (lets face it most of us can’t – how noticeable would that be?). Start using that beard trimmer on them; start at the highest setting and slowly, over a period of weeks, bring the comb down as far as you dare. I have fine hair, and now shave my legs with the trimmer set to the shortest setting once a week. I wear shorts a lot and no one notices how short and fine my leg hairs are, even when I’m in my bathers. The next trick I have, is to wear bike pants to the gym or when exercising. When I started to wear them I noticed they wore most of the hair off my thighs, so I just took it one stage further and shaved off the remainder. I now shave from just above my knees to the tops of my thighs and no one notices; of course don’t do this until you have the rest of your legs shaved to the shortest setting on the trimmer. Unfortunately if you are really hairy, the best you may achieve is a good trim with the trimmer. There is still more that you can do however. I use sheer beige pantyhose as a foundation garment. These give shape to my legs, covers the little nicks and veins, and provide a nice sheen to my thighs. (They also help to hold in the tummy and assist in holding the ‘little fella and his two mates’ in place.) I can then wear any colour nylon stockings or fishnet stockings over the pantyhose, or sometimes even another pair of pantyhose. If you have particularly hairy legs and can’t shave them too closely try wearing beige pantyhose under another darker coloured pair. If you can afford them, dance tights give a wonderful sheen to the legs and will hide the hairiest of legs. As for painting toenails, I don’t bother; I always have two pairs of nylons on so my toes don’t show that much, and often the nylons have reinforced toes anyway. Purists will tell you its sacrilege to wear reinforced toe stockings with open toe shoes, but the guys love it !!!!

    Chest

    Unless you can shave your body all over you have no chance. Shave your face to well below your neckline and wear round-neck or collared blouses that come to the bottom of your neck. I never take off my top no matter hot things are getting, You will see why later.

    The Nether Regions

    If you are lucky enough to have a wife or girlfriend that likes you fully shaven down there, good luck. I use the trusty beard trimmer on my pubic areas and keep it closely cropped but not shaved. I did it slowly (again) over a period of weeks and now my wife is used to it and never noticed the gradual trimming.

    Eye Brows

    Another tricky one. Most guys can't get around with eyebrows like Nicole Kidman without being noticed. Again get that beard trimmer in action set as close as you dare. Pluck those rogue long hairs and of course pluck any on the bridge of your nose (two eyebrows please, not a mono-brow). I go for shape and try to pluck the hairs closest to eyes to achieve it. It’s a matter of practice and what you can get away with. Another trick is to dab a little styling gel or mouse on the eyebrows and comb them up and away from the eyes. I also wear a wig that has a fringe that just comes to the top of my eyebrows so they are not really noticeable.

    Finally, for god sake don’t forget your nose and ear hair……………I shouldn’t even have to mention it!

    Fingernails

    Have you ever noticed that not all women have enormously long painted nails? If you want this look, by all means buy falsies, but they are a pain in the arse to put on and remove. The only tip I have here is to paint them before you put them on; lie them along a piece of dowelling held in place by ‘blue-tack’ to paint them easily. I have always had longish nails anyway, but again slowly, slowly, start to grow them. If you have unsightly bitten nails, you can even make a point of saying you are working at not biting them and having nice nails. I let mine grow to about 2-3mm (1/8" – 3 /16") long, keep them clean and the cuticle pushed back, and shape them nicely. They look nice even in drab; but put a coat of nail polish on them and they look lovely. If you keep your cuticles pushed back, it is easier to remove nail polish. Just buy the cheapest remover, its only acetone!

    What About That Belly

    If you suffer from middle age spread, try your best to shape what you have and hide the rest. If you can afford a tight lace-up corset, good luck. I used to use a cheap elastin and cotton body trimmer that I bought from a shop in Oxford Street Sydney. It’s like an open bottom girdle that supports my midriff and flattens my tummy. It starts just below my belly button and comes to just below my tits. It does a great job and is comfortable. You may be able to achieve the same results with a ladies girdle but I have never tried one myself. Control top pantyhose or dance tights also go some way to holding in ‘belly bulge’. Or you can just do what I did; diet and exercise and loose some weight!

    The Wig

    Look! All the web sites will tell you, and I have to agree, do not muck around when it comes to buying your wig! Go to a professional if you can, and be prepared to pay at least $100. Again I went to Oxford Street (gay part of Sydney) where they are used to fitting guys with ladies wigs. I was in drab (as I said I have never been out dressed) and the assistant did not bat an eyelid and was marvellously helpful. Make sure the style suits you, a general rule, the older you get, the shorter the wig. If you can’t go to a proper retail outlet go to a costume shop and say you are dressing in drag for a party. Try on wigs until you find one that suits; then buy something similar at a hairdresser or cosmetic shop, even some sex shops sell wigs.

    Lingerie

    This is so easy. All of you probably started by wearing your, wife’s, mother’s, sister’s panties anyway. The old line about "getting the wife some knickers", stockings, garters, lingerie etc for her birthday/anniversary etc always works. I don’t even bother with the bullshit any more and just go straight to the lingerie section and buy what I want. I buy pantyhose in bulk at the supermarket whilst shopping with a list in my hand, women think it’s on the wife’s shopping list! I put them under the groceries until I get to the checkout. Bras are tougher. Most women’s bras won’t fit larger men. Get an extender for the back (it’s a piece designed to extend the bra strap across the back). If you do have trouble determining your size, just get the assistant at the lingerie counter to assist you select ‘something for your wife’. Make sure you can return it if it doesn’t fit and then go home and try it on!

    Shoes

    Not so easy for the undercover crossdresser. I went to Oxford Street, tried on, and bought a pair of imitation black patent leather, open toe high heels. The trick is finding your size. I’m a size 8 men’s (Australia) and a size 10/11 ladies. I have also bought shoes at the Salvation Army (charity) shop, just tried them on when it was quiet and took them to the counter. They are used to guys buying shoes. You can get clothes there too but they usually frown if you ask to try them on. A trick you may use is to make a stencil of your foot on cardboard. Go to a shoe shop (cheaper shoe retailers have more of a selection of the larger sizes) and jut say: "I would really like to buy my wife some nice open toe high heels (whatever, you get the gist) and would like to get her a pair for birthday". Say you took the cardboard stencil from one of her shoes. Again, get a money back guarantee. Voila! You have just bought your first shoes and now you know your size. Don’t forget women’s sizes do vary between brands just as men’s sizes do.

    Skirts, Dresses, Blouses and Tops

    As a closet crossdresser how many clothes do you need? I have kept my wardrobe simple. I have a ****ty, vamp look, a secretary look, and a sophisticated look. I have skirts and tops that mix and match. I haven’t bothered with dresses; too bloody hard and in my opinion they make older crossdressers look like frumpy old women. Skirts are easy; I have bought them from specialty Crossdressing stores, charity shops, and even off the rack. Once you have one that fits you, you have an idea of your size. I got a wonderful Carla Zampatti A-line skirt for $10 at a church charity sale! I never take women’s clothes to either the men’s or women’s dressing room – too risky. I take the item off the rack and try it against my waist and estimate if it will fit. If it’s from a charity shop and doesn’t fit, the most I’ve wasted is a few bucks. If it’s retail, again return it! I also bought my first top by trial and error at a charity shop. I bought four tops and two of them fitted. I lost about $10 – big deal! I have found the biggest problem is that women’s tops are narrow in the shoulder so I now hold the top up to my shoulders to estimate if it will fit. Always try and take your purchases to older women tellers, never men, and avoid young girls. Older women understand that their job is to sell stock, not to ask, "whom did you buy this for?" I was once pleasantly surprised by a mature lady assistant who actually came over and asked could she help me, was I shopping for myself? Once I got over the shock, I had a pleasant experience as she helped me choose two tops in my size (the only time I used a change room because she remained outside while I tried them on!) I always go to shops out of town to buy clothes and shoes and always when they are nearly empty (weekdays just after lunch is good, the staff are on their break, and most 'would be' customers back at work). I buy lingerie anywhere; guys always buy lingerie for their wives and girlfriends.

    Breastforms

    Specialty CD shops and some sex shops sell realistic breastforms but the better ones are expensive and you have to muck around attaching them to your chest. As I said, due to my foundation garments, I never take off my top so I didn’t bother. You can get away with birdseed or a rice filled nylon stocking that look quite natural. Padding from old shoulder pads also works well. I don’t care what kind you use whether they are bought or home made, they have to look realistic. I stress look, because unless someone other then you is going to be touching them, how they feel is not important. I actually made my own from a tip on the net. Get a shoe box full of soft builder’s sand, push down and press the imprint of you favourite bra cups into the sand. Line the hollows made by the cups with plastic sandwich rap and fill with clear silicone (the tubes you buy at hardware shops for leak stopping). Leave them for about a week to set, then put each breastform into a nylon stocking, cut the stocking, and tie it off at the front (there is your nipple - ta-da). All I do is slide the breastforms into my bra and they are a perfect fit and cost bugger all.

    Makeup

    Buying Makeup

    I refuse to buy expensive makeup. I don’t wear it often enough to justify expensive brands and find the cheaper options available at ‘thrift’ shops do the job. It’s easier anyway to go to one of the cut price shops that sell everything and wait until the makeup aisle is empty and grab what you need. Again, out of town, weekdays after lunch I find is best. Another option is to buy a full makeup kit that you can say is a present for your daughter or niece "who has just turned 13". I just bought the essentials to start with. My essentials are: bright red lipstick (not for your lips, I will explain later), foundation (buy small cheap bottles until you match your skin tone then buy larger), powder (match to the foundation), blusher (most contain two or three shades), eye shadow (I buy the smaller compacts that have lots of colours), eyeliner or kohl (don’t muck around, get black), mascara (same), eyebrow pencil (a few shades darker than your hair colour), lipstick (get a couple of shades, I like the plum shades) get long lasting two coat if you intend to give oral sex or kiss, and of course nail polish (I have a plum red that matches my lipstick). You will have to buy accessories such as brushes, small makeup applicators for eye shadow, and small makeup sponges. They are all available on the rack and don’t attract much attention among other grocery items. Once you have the essentials you can just top up your collection when you are out shopping for other items. Tip: buy a large, fine good quality sponge and cut it up to make makeup application sponges.

    Application

    Look there are a hundred web sites that will tell you how to look like a model and how to look natural etc. If you are like me, you don’t give a toss about natural, you want to look attractive and dare I say it, ****ty. The best advice is practice, practice, and practice. If you are married spend some time and watch your wife apply her makeup, she will love you for sitting besides her and talking to her while she is getting ready for that evening out. Especially watch how she applies eye makeup, which I believe is the hardest to master. Here are my makeup tips for what they are worth:

    Foundation: Don’t forget you must shave before applying makeup. If you want to muck around and go to a specialty shop to buy ‘Dermablend’ or theatrical foundation then go for it. It will cost you lots and the snotty girl behind the counter will look at you funny. I know men need a ‘specialty’ foundation to hide their beard and rough skin but try this: apply the bright red lipstick I told you to buy, in liberal dabs all over your beard area, not forgetting your neck. Work it in with a damp sponge – I know you look like a red Indian, don’t panic. Apply your foundation liberally (its cheap and you don’t dress that often) and work that in with a damp sponge. Ensure you get your ears, well below your neck, right up to the hairline, and don’t forget the eyes and eyebrows (it provides a foundation funnily enough for the rest of the makeup). I now apply a coating of powder to set the foundation. Finding the foundation and powder combination that works best is trail and error, try your wife’s first and if your lucky like me, it might be right for you. I just the went out and bought cheaper brands but similar shades.

    Eyes: I do my eyeliner (kohl) next, all the books say do eye shadow first, but I find eye liner the easiest part of makeup to muck up, which therefore requires removal and having to start again. Again the books say "for a more natural look, only apply kohl to half the bottom eyelid; start at the middle of the bottom lid and work out to the corners of the eyes." Bugger that! I want to be a vamp so I apply plenty around the top and bottom of both eyelids, getting as close to edge of the lid as possible. I get right in the inner corners and sometimes bring it out slightly from the outer corners to make my eyes look bigger. I then apply my eye shadow. Play with different combinations using darker colours on the lid and lighter colours as you move upward, away from the eyes. Don’t be afraid to take the lighter colours right up to the eyebrows. Now I do my eyelashes. I use lashings of mascara because of my thin, fair, lashes. Be careful not to get globs of it stuck on your lashes. Work it from the lid towards the ends of the lashes. I do both sides, top and bottom. I use my eyebrow pencil next, sparingly, moving from a fine line to an even finer line as I move towards outside. Don’t colour the things in unless you want to look like Groucho Marx in drag!

    Face: I now apply blusher to my cheeks and work it back towards my ears. Against the advise of the professionals I use lots and gradually thin it out as I get higher on my face to get that ‘eighties’ look (not natural but so spunky).

    Lips: I don’t agree with ‘the experts’ here, try and make your lips fuller by going outside the lip line. Get a nice colour and practice until you get it right. I like to apply a lot (funnily enough) then bite down on a tissue to even and set the coat. I use expensive two coat long lasting lipstick if I’m having a date so it doesn’t come off during heavy petting and when I’m performing fellatio.

    Finishing: I now apply a second light coat of powder all over to finish. I then apply my nail polish. That’s me done, not natural, but hopefully attactive for my date.

    Last tips: don’t use glitter makeup anywhere unless you are under 16. Don’t use glossy lipsticks, especially if you have thin lips. I have thin lips and have found a plum red works for me.

    Removing Makeup
    My biggest worry is, will SHE notice any makeup on me when I come home after an interlude with a friend or if I have been home alone playing dress up. Buy the cheapest biggest bottle of moisturiser you can and make sure you have a facecloth. I remove everything from my face first, lippy, blush and foundation (don’t forget your ears, hairline, and neckline).

    Two coat, long lasting lipstick will stay on forever and you will need to work at getting it all off. Look for patches in small crevasses in your lips and check your teeth to make sure they are not stained.

    I pool a large quantity into the cloth and clean my eyes next. Because they have the most makeup on them it will usually take two or three applications to remove the bulk.

    Mascara and eyeliner is a bitch, you may have to work on the lashes individually to remove it all. Next I wash my face with soap and water, dry off and check for any remaining makeup, particularly mascara.

    If I can, I take a shower. Nail polish will come off easy with remover. Use plenty and use an old cloth to take it off; cotton balls get stuck. Make sure none is left around cuticles and in the corners even under the nails. You will definitely find it hard to explain that!

    Finally

    As I said in the introduction, these are my tips for part time crossdressers that want to dress occasionally for fun with themselves or with partners and don’t want to get caught. If you want to dress ladylike, ‘natural’, have transgender tendencies (you want to be a real woman or dress all the time) go to any of the thousands of web sites that provide transgender resources.

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    WOW. Good stuff girl...


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    Karen,

    THANK YOU!

    What an excellent piece. I loved reading it and have printed it out to read over and over.

    You have obviously given this a lot of thought and took a lot of time to prepare that wonderful piece for us girls who are trying to learn!

    Huggs and Kisses!!!

    Suzy!!

    Oops....

    Sorry Michelle..... I was thanking Karen for your hard work....

    But Karen is such a hard worker that it was easy to get confused... Anyway Michelle.... Great stuff! hard work.. Beautiful effort and it shows your concern for all of us...

    THANK YOU!!!
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    Thanks a lot . I admire your care for gals like me . this post has to be stikcy so all new members can read

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    Tips

    Very detailed and excellent tips, Hon. I developed my own makeup regimen from JoAnn Roberts, Kalina Osata and skaty eight drag queens. I was wondering what the timing is on this, i.e. how long does it take to put on and take off? I've found it takes me about 30 minutes to construct myself but only about 10 minutes to de-construct. It's always easier to destroy than create it seems. I can get ready quicker if I'm not too fussy. I usually have a plan in mind (more or less) what I'm going to look like before I do it although sometimes I surprise myself and the end result is nothing like I originally intended. I make it up as I go sometimes. Of course your tips are geared towards those who have limited time for whatever reason. Even so, it's neat when you can take the time to do a good job and even neater when you cover all the bases. I learned early on, my wife KNEW something was up when I was perfectly cleaned up and had no beard stubble. Guys ARE basically slobs after all and when she sees you are ready to go, will be suspicious. Can't pull one over on these gals--not really. Ericka Kay

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    Thanks you have said a lot of good things .

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    Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, read it, copied it and I keeping it for laters. Sweet Advice.

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    Wow thank you thats great information . Peg

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    thanks

    I have been dressing off and on for nearly 30 years and still found a lot I could use. Thank you so much.

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    Smile Great tips

    [SIZE="4"]Thanks, Michelle. Yours tips are great. I need all the help that I can get.

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    I'm getting better with age. I may have started late, but better late than never!

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    Scary. Aspiring to the bottom rung. Sounds like instructions to prepare to be the kind of woman most real women shun and look down upon.

    Misplaced concerns too. Getting caught by one's wife with shaved legs or plucked eyebrows is survivable. Getting caught after having a series of gay affairs with men, and exposing her to the very real possibilty of contacting AIDS, is a very serious matter. You should tell your wife what you are doing with these men if you still have sexual relations with her. Anything is is playing fire with her health and life, which you by no means have the right to do. That's very scary and your wife has the right to make that decision for herself.

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    thanks for all the great info...............
    Holding a grudge is like letting someone live in your head rent free

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    complete instructions

    I'm afraid I share Christina Nicole's opinion. I do hope you are using a condom. HIV and other STD can be transmitted through ANY bodily fluid. Oral sex included. Do you have the right to expose your wife to this? Perhaps you no longer have any sexual contact with your wife.

    A lot of this advice seems to encourage totally unessessary subterfuge.

    I am sorry that anyone feels the need to resort to such elaborate deception. How can this be any fun?

    Clearly though, some of us girls thought it useful. Very complete.

    "Aspiring to the bottom rung", I liked that.

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    Exclamation Another Tip

    My wife showed me that Vasoline works great for removing eye makeup, including eye liner and lipstick. Just put a little on a Q-Tip or your finger and rub lightly. Takes it all off in just a few seconds. I even tried it all over my face and it works well for everything also. Then I just clean up with a little soap and water.

    Don't forget to moisturize afterwards also no matter what you use to remove your makeup!

    Just my little

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    I guess I am blessed with the fact that I have pretty 'light' eyebrows. Not very bushy, and nothing even close to a uni-brow. Just naturally. Up until highschool I got teased cause the other kids thought I shaved my eyebrows off, and would say I had none. I do have eyebrows, they just aren't big and bushy.

    I'm off the hook with that one at least.

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    Baby oil takes makeup off too.

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    In Answer To Critics Of My Moral Fibre

    Well yes girls I do only practice safe sex and it's not as I've had a thousand partners.

    I wonder if I would receive the same scorn if I was simply a male who cheats on his wife with other women, which some nowdays seem to see as not only acceptable but inevitable.

    I am bisexual and there is nothing I can do change to that! I meet others discreetly and only when I am satisfied that they meet my high standards do I engage in activity.

    I know my wife would be hurt far by exposing her to the truth of my sexuality than keeping her in the dark. The reality is that are a lot of sexually active "closet" crossdressers and I am only offering them makeup tips, not encouraging promiscuity. That is for each of us to decide for ourselves.

    Thanks to those who enjoyed my tips and found them useful; as for the marriage guidance, I'm sure there are other groups that provide the service for those who want it.

    I seem to attract a lot of negativity in this group and am considering cancelling my membership. I find sometimes that the Transgender community is far more less tolerant with sexually TVs and CDs than even homophobics.

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    Similar circumstances

    Michele, I am in a very similar circumstance to yours. I am married, closeted, and NOT promiscuous. Married for 24 years, having an affair with ONE T Gurl (both of us EN FEMME) for 16.

    Do I suffer guilt? Regrets? Of course! Do I wish I could be "out" and avoid the sneaking around, secrets, and stress? Of course!
    This is a life I CHOSE. I don't know why I am compelled to do this, but I am, and I LIKE IT. This started with a STRONG pantyhose fetish, and built from there. I am bisexual, and enjoy the brief moments spent with another BI T Gurl.

    Your tips are very helpful. If I may:

    1. Early on, an acquaintance told me to try "less Drag Queen" and more "girl".
    2. If you can't shave, bleaching can hide a lot if your body hair is fairly sparse. Or opaque pantyhose under your gartered stockings.
    3. LIP LINER. Provides a good outline, and SEXY as HELL.
    4. The walk: women walk toe-heel, men walk heel-toe.
    5. Play safe, be discrete, and make sure your friends do to.

    Vicky

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    Great tips, picked up several new ideas. Thanks

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    thanks

    Great advice and tips Michelle.
    Alot of thought and work.
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    Thanks!

    Everything that is so helpful!
    I'm sure it has helped out a lot of girls!

    Beth
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    No negativity from me

    Michelle, I hope you don't drop your membership here. I myself have not been here too often lately but when I read your post I had to reply. I would love to chat with you more about your sexual activity. I have not actually taken that next step but have come very close to exploring that side of my sexuality. I too have presented that situation in a post and received that same negativity and thats cool in a way because I do believe people have a right to their opinions but some do get down right nasty about it. I think it is a real issue and that I'm sure a lot of us try to deal with . I have read many posts from this forum and I know there are many of us just like you who have either had that desire and acted on it and those of us who wish we could have that chance to act on it. I for one would love to hear more about your experiences if you want some one to communicate with.
    Donna Tv

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    While i don't condone the behavior i appreciate you taking the time to help out you're fellow sisters.

    Don't leave...no matter where you go there will always be a few people who don't agree (with life in general)

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    Aspiring Member Christina Nicole's Avatar
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    Don't post something that may be controversial if you don't want comments and opinions. Since you posted this, you must be looking for comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michele Nylons View Post
    Well yes girls I do only practice safe sex and it's not as I've had a thousand partners.
    Safe sex is a misnomer. It's simply less risky sex. Condoms fail. Still, what you do affects your wife, so she should get to make her own choice.

    I wonder if I would receive the same scorn if I was simply a male who cheats on his wife with other women, which some nowdays seem to see as not only acceptable but inevitable.
    I can't speak for the others, but for myself, I would emphatically say, "Yes!" Infidelity is hardly inevitable. That's just an excuse used by the weak.

    I am bisexual and there is nothing I can do change to that! I meet others discreetly and only when I am satisfied that they meet my high standards do I engage in activity.
    I'm heterosexual, but I don't cheat on my wife with other women. Bisexuality isn't a reason or an excuse, no matter how you try to invoke it. Regarding high standards in other men, your wife should also have some input into that. What you do affects her.

    I know my wife would be hurt far by exposing her to the truth of my sexuality than keeping her in the dark. The reality is that are a lot of sexually active "closet" crossdressers and I am only offering them makeup tips, not encouraging promiscuity. That is for each of us to decide for ourselves.
    How nice of you to think of your wife's emotional well being! Since it's her health on the line, what you do, with whom you do it, and what she wants to do about it requires her to be informed. That you're afraid to tell her isn't enough of an excuse, nor is "everyone does it" an excuse either.

    Thanks to those who enjoyed my tips and found them useful; as for the marriage guidance, I'm sure there are other groups that provide the service for those who want it.
    You didn't have to post that you were having intercourse, or whatever, with gay men. You decided to do so. You could have just left it that you were putting on your granny clothes to feed the birds in the park! Regarding the marriage guidance, no charge! Consider it part of the all-inclusive service.

    I seem to attract a lot of negativity in this group and am considering cancelling my membership. I find sometimes that the Transgender community is far more less tolerant with sexually TVs and CDs than even homophobics.
    You expected cheers and accolades for cheating on your wife?!

    Regards,
    Christina Nicole

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    Slips And Halos

    Hey Christina,

    Is that your slip showing or your halo slipping; tell you what lets agree to disagree and stick to the subject of male to female crossdressing.

    xxx
    Michele

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