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    The problem with being a real woman

    Well - I think the big problem with being a woman is -- guys! Like so many men are unattractive or losers (when women think of income) that finding the right guy is so hard! And sometimes the handsome hot guys are gay or crossdressers (huh?).

    Like... aren't all the men Britney Spears has been with kinda ugly (my opinion)? The guys she has been with lately (after Federline) are ugly! Like why can't a hot woman like her find a nice hot guy? Obviously, Britney has poor taste in guys.

    I sometimes pretend I'm a woman looking for a man and only a few times I see men that I'm attracted too (if I were a woman). It makes me wonder sometimes when I see a beautiful woman with an average, or ugly, or fat guy -- makes me wonder what she sees in him!

    Another problem with being a woman is the preoccupation society has for slim women. Women are so obssessed with weight because lots of guys hate fat women! So many women's magazines talk about weight loss and diets!

    What do real women have to say here? Opinions wanted!

    What do you other crossdressers think of guys in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse69
    What do you other crossdressers think of guys in general?
    Most are boring, most are grey, most are highly addapted. Nevertheless there are some interesting and funny ones with personality. Prototype beauty isn't everything, neither for men nor for women, and on the long run boring most of the time, because it is superficial and fading. I can see why some men are considered attractive (even those you might call ugly), but I can't really understand it ... I don't have to.

    I have the impression that couples tend to become grey and "boring" together, the wife and the husband; daily routine.
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    WOW Jesse!

    That is an imagination you have. People have choices. Some make good choices and some make bad choices. I don't think because you are good looking and successful, that you should only date or marry good looking and successful people. Nor do I believe because you are a fat, ugly loser, you should only date or marry other fat, ugly loser's.

    I believe that the beauty of one, is what is inside, not outside. I also believe that not only women, but men too, make choices based on thier trust in believing in a partner that they feel comfortable with. Life is not just material things, its emotions, its feeling safe in someones arms, and its enjoying life with someone you love.

    If we all picked the good looking ones, it would be a lonely world out there, and we all would have missed many good opportunities for happiness.
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    IMO most men dress pretty sloppy and for the most part are lazy. Too lazy to look nice, too lazy to care about the clothes they wear. Generally, to me they seem pretty dirty. Yes, I know there are those that are not. But yes, over all lazy, too lazy to fight for their rights to be treated like human beings.

    Women are no angels either though. I was at the docs today and I over heard a couple of women, one of which worked there. She talked about how she wants to do other things in life, but shes looking to find a good guy that has a decent income because she needs some financial assistance. Too bad so many women are leaches.

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    Point one - K-Fed (or now, FedEx) was a stud service. He did his job, gave her pretty babies and was put out to pasture.

    Like men, woman are human, and hence very dualistic. Sure, they want a guy who looks great in a suit. Who wears a tux like Sean Conery as 007, Robert Redford or Paul Newman in the Sing, or Humphry Bogart in Cassablanca. But it also makes them all hot and runny to think of that same Paul Newman out cutting weeds with sweat rolling down him in Cool Hand Luke, or Robert Redford in Cowboy gear in Butch Cassidy or Humphry in the African Queen.

    They want a guy who is comfortable at the opera and can fix the washer. Who is good with babies but also can defend them if need be.

    Just like men want a woman who is a complete and total lady out in public and a wonton total pervert in the bedroom. Think Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast @ Tiffinys' and Traci Lords in some XXX movie.

    Money is nice either way.
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    it doesnt matter whether cding or trans, we are all cut from the same seed we are all individuals what we want is our own progretive, what we floats towards is our own thing, at the end of the day we are all equal because God made us from His own image.

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    Bottom line is people are people and aren't going to change any time soon. Somehow through all of this, the human race manages to survive. As a group, guys are this, as a group girls are that. So much for blanket observations. It comes down to the individuals and who they are as people and what their feelings are for each other. Aside from so called "normal" society, you throw TG into the "mix" and all bets are off and it's an entirely different ball game. That's kind of why, with myself, everyone kind of floats or sinks on their own merit and I always consider them for who they are inside as a person, gender disposition notwithstanding. It's neat to take the time to actually get to know people and I enjoy playing the "game" to an extent but in the end my instincts and feelings win out and that is how my perception of a person and my response to them is determined. Just people being people really and all part of the game we call "life".
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    iam what iam, so what im volumptoeus ( love that word ) !! if "some" men are that shallow to judge a GG on weight etc, then sorry. its whats inside that matters. making a man laugh, making him feel @ ease , is far more important !! these super-thin modles etc maybe ok on the eye, but they lack personailty !!
    we are what we are & i dont live by what people think i should look like/be . iam what iam, take it or leave
    ( sorry, but i have strong views on things like that ) !!
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    All People Are Different

    I suppose that if you're out "hunting", looking for someone, your vision may be clouded by un-realistic expectations. But, I'm reminded of the phrase, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", fat, thin, young, old, rich, poor, female, male, we all need love.

    In the last three years, I've met hundreds of men, most of them seniors. One thing that impressed me, was the deep love, shared by many couples, some who've been together over forty years.

    I don't judge the people I meet, but share my love, with them. Whether it's a friendly hello, a welcoming kiss, or a warm hug to ease their pain, after loosing a loved one. I always try to see the beauty in people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianna Lovely View Post
    I don't judge the people I meet, but share my love, with them. Whether it's a friendly hello, a welcoming kiss, or a warm hug to ease their pain, after loosing a loved one. I always try to see the beauty in people.
    Brianna, you've just described the secret to true, deep happiness.
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    Old saying

    Beauty is ONLY skin deep but ugly is TOO THE BONE. A fat woman/man can lose weight but how do you lose ugly? What's on the inside is what counts to me..... Not all but most people who are beautiful on the outside tend to walk around with their nose in the air and to me that makes them lose all that beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedblonde GG View Post
    iam what iam, so what I'm voluptuous ( love that word ) !! if "some" men are that shallow to judge a GG on weight etc, then sorry. its whats inside that matters. making a man laugh, making him feel @ ease , is far more important !! these super-thin models etc maybe OK on the eye, but they lack personality !!
    we are what we are & i dont live by what people think i should look like/be . iam what iam, take it or leave
    ( sorry, but i have strong views on things like that ) !!
    So true WB !

    I have a friend who is very pretty. She told me once that she thought it was a curse because guys were afraid to ask her out. I told her it probably was more fear of rejection. She then told me pretty much what WB said here.

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    Maybe Britney just has no taste or smarts
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    Well I would prefer the guy who isn't the most attractive because most of the attractive/good looking ones are so-far up their own a**** it's unbelievable.

    As for the weight issue any one who judges another person with a weight problem is just a waste of time. The papers and magazines have all these stick people in them with clothes that hang off them and they call this beauty!!!!!!
    Another thing it's not just the papers and magazines that go on about losing weight, it has been here on the forum, some replies have been helpful but some have been down right rude.

    I'll finish with Wickedblondes comment

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    I'm trying to remember how I put this in another thread. It's mine, which is probably why I can't remember it exactly.

    "The kiln of inner beauty can ruin the most attractive of glazes and turn the plainest of glazes into works of art."

    Something like that anyway. I'm human too, there are people I am initially attracted to based on their looks. But in the long run that isn't what matters. It's who a person is, what's in their heart, that ultimately matters. The outside is no indication of the inside. Which is why physical attraction is both a good thing and a bad thing.

    And we also need to be careful not to assume that "beautiful people" are ugly inside. Some are, some aren't. It's another example of judging someone solely by the way they look.
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    GM's view

    Speaking from the GM's view, yep you hit the nail on the head...I personally have made remarks about over weight people [ male & female }, poked fun behind their backs. Then I started hearing the same thing about me.

    Perhaps it was a blessing, but after my wife got sick, she also put on a large amount of weight...I then realized that she was still the same gal I married 20 years ago, just a larger version.

    I have since then learned all about life. I've been fat, now I'm thin, my wife was thin, then fat, then thin again...I suppose all I'm trying to say is 90% of the GM's are real A** holes , giving the guys who are or learned to be nice and considerate a bad rap...

    I'd like to think that looks isn't what we see when we fall in love, but perhaps the whole person...I will admit though I've often thought to myself, why is she/he with that person, but size and looks isn't what influences my thoughts...To me "actions speak louder than words"

    Being an A** hole or a smart A** is a learned trait with the support of all those who have laughed at remarks made about those that may not be pleasing in ones personal view...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopuff's girl GG View Post
    Beauty is ONLY skin deep but ugly is TOO THE BONE. A fat woman/man can lose weight but how do you lose ugly? What's on the inside is what counts to me..... Not all but most people who are beautiful on the outside tend to walk around with their nose in the air and to me that makes them lose all that beauty.
    A contagious smile, a laugh, a generous hand up, a strong shoulder to cry on, a sincere pat on the back.

    Those things are beautiful whether found in traditional, modern, old or young beauty. I can honestly say that even though I may notice an exceptional good looking man (appreciating that the universe does good work), I am not attracted to him. I have found my soul mate and there is no one else I want to be with. As we age, I think he's just as good looking as the day we met - maybe even better looking. I liked his appearance but that's not why we're still together.

    Such a waste of time to only focus on the superficial. God - the universe - gave us all some really special gifts and attributes. It seems kind of petty to me to spend so much time worry about what you didn't get and covetting what someone else got. Rejoice in who you are and who they are. Spend your energies being the best you can be and beauty will surround you.
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    My opinions on this subject are:
    1. Everyone (No matter their shape, smarts, etc.) has someone out there for them.
    2. In a relationship don't get pregnant. Expecially thinking this will keep you together and happy forever. Give yourself a waiting period, say 3 years.
    3. You need to set guidelines when looking for a partner. Such as does he/she have a job, does he/she do drugs. My daughter goes through guys like washing her hands and then goes through depression when things don't work out.
    4. Getting someone is a lot easier than keeping them. There are people who have been divorced many times and then there are long term relationships.
    5. You also must be prepared for the ever-changing future. Such as loss-of-job, partner getting a catastrophic illness, losing health insurance, filing bancruptcy, etc.

    Relationships are trial and error. Take your time!!! What ugly, or unattractive is to one person may not be the same to another. Yes our packages are different but its whats on the inside that matters. Sorry about touching a certain subjects but your question can lead to other questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree GG View Post
    A contagious smile, a laugh, a generous hand up, a strong shoulder to cry on, a sincere pat on the back.

    Those things are beautiful whether found in traditional, modern, old or young beauty. I can honestly say that even though I may notice an exceptional good looking man (appreciating that the universe does good work), I am not attracted to him. I have found my soul mate and there is no one else I want to be with. As we age, I think he's just as good looking as the day we met - maybe even better looking. I liked his appearance but that's not why we're still together.

    Such a waste of time to only focus on the superficial. God - the universe - gave us all some really special gifts and attributes. It seems kind of petty to me to spend so much time worry about what you didn't get and covetting what someone else got. Rejoice in who you are and who they are. Spend your energies being the best you can be and beauty will surround you.
    Tree you say what I would like too only far better than I ever could.
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    Actualy, i think "Dawn French" is gorgeous, beautiful, & shes a volumpteous woman & i also believe it isnt always looks that attract people to each other. if you have known someone for awhile, often the attraction has been made through conversation, just talking & learning about each other you shouldnt judge a book by its cover
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopuff's girl GG View Post
    Beauty is ONLY skin deep but ugly is TOO THE BONE. A fat woman/man can lose weight but how do you lose ugly? What's on the inside is what counts to me..... Not all but most people who are beautiful on the outside tend to walk around with their nose in the air and to me that makes them lose all that beauty.
    Some of the kindest and most “beautiful” women I have known were what most people see as homely.

    I have known many beautiful woman that were shallow, stupid and some that were down right nasty and were users.

    You can not judge someone by their looks; a good doctor can fix that. But a good doctor cannot fix your personality.

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    Gimme a break! I've been single for 26 years now, after 17 years of marriage.
    Just try and find an attractive woman over 40, with a decent figure, who dresses well, heels, dresses, makeup, etc, who has some interests, besides grandkids, shopping and bingo. One of the main reasons I dress up, is because most women dont!

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