GOP cd

[Stephanie32]

this is the first time i have ever posted. Im a young successful busnessman in my 20's who has been courted by the republican party as a potential candidate for office some day. I have met the president, and been introduced to the goven(at)or as a rising star.
Right now my girlfriend is on a 6 month deployment in Iraq. After attending a few support meetings and finding myself the only guy there. I stopped going. Now I'd never be unfaithful to my girlfriend, so I started becoming curious.
IT WAS SUCH A RUSH! putting on womens clothing again. I haven't done it since I was 12. I went on a $2000 online spending spree on pumps, breast forms dresses, swimsuits, lengerie, pantyhose, books you name it. I cant wait until it all arives. And I can't stop doing it. Ya'll seem like very nice people. Help!

[Holly]

Hi Kimberley and to the forum. Always nice to greet another California girl. Help? If you need help shopping, count me in.

[Stephanie32]

After seeing what happened to Jim West in Spokehane WA, and all my friends are HARDCORE conservatives along with my parents and girlfriend who beleive the only thing they hate more thann gays are Al Queda. I could loose everything, if I don't get this under control. I mean I feel like if this gets out. I might as well be caught on Dateline NBC to catch a predator, with Chris Hansen. again help

[neon_noodle]

Don't worry about it. Two reasons -

1. You are probably just missing your girlfriend a lot, and the CDing helps with the stress and lonelyness of being apart. When she comes back, you won't feel so lonely.

2. If your CDing is fun and gets you off, just keep it to yourself. Virtually 100% of hidden acts are found out because you tell somebody else. If you just CD at home, no one is going to know.

Now get in those stockings, high heels, and panites, and have yourself a good time.

[CaptLex]

I don't get it, what kind of help are you asking for? How to stop CDing? You'd be better off making new friends. We're friendly . . .

[Jenna1561]

Hi Kimberely,

Your story is a bit amazing, particularly as it's your first post and your profile is very minimal. For a successful young businessman and rising political star concerned about being "outed" it surprises me that you would dare to mention those facts in a public forum. Pardon me if I doubt the veracity of your post.

But to give you the benefit of believing you, I ask you the following. You ask for help - exactly what type of help are you looking for?

- Do you want help improving your presentation?
- Do you want help with shopping?
- Or do you want help stopping?

Again, if I'm mistaken and your story is the truth, I apologize.


Jenna

[Kate Simmons]

Jenna brought out some good points. Seems to be some missing info here and not quite clear to me what you are trying to accomplish or what kind of help you are requesting. Care to elaborate? Like CaptLex said, we are friendly.

[Chantelle CD]

Hey Kimber, I'm sorry i couldn't help but laugh need to know a little more info, like....you said you hadn't dressed since you were 12, have you had urges to dress, but stooped them all this time? Would your wife leave you if she found out you wanted to make this a part of your life? Would she be hurtful and tell the world if you told her, and she couldn't accept it ?Dressing again now, do you want to do it more? feel free to add and tell us more please.

I know its hard, the stereo typing of us and even accepting yourself is not easy to do, i fought it so Meany years, and just plain give up fighting it now.

You can CD and not lose everything, you dont have to tell anyone, unless you feel you can share with your wife, and trust her to not let it out, sounds like you do a lot of business trips<lots of time to do it there>

Dont be afraid, it wont get you in trouble, unless you go to work and forget to get undressed hehe, just enjoy when you get the chance to dress, and dont kick yourself for feeling this side of yourself kk

Chantelle

[Stephanie32]

i'm a little frightened by this. I got all these feelings that I am actually enjoying myself. Heck doing housework in drag is the only time when its enjoyable. My place is clean for the first time since my gf left. I can't wait until I get that french maid costume I ordered. I like the smooth feeling of pantyhose on my legs, as well as pointy toed high heels except when 4 hours is painfull. I've slept in my girlfriends lengerie for 3 days straight, a black teddy. And after doing some reasearch. I get the impression that these feelings doint every go away. I see that in many circumstances from previous posts that significant others have been supportive. But now that I have this its causing me to rethink my political ambitions. Even if I were a liberal democrat running in the casrto district, west hollywood or hillcrest. It would look bad. I'm just curious to see how others who lve in conservative circles live with this, because from what I've read it doesn't go away.

[Rachel Morley]

I'm kinda with Jenna on this one. Why did you think it was important to tell us your political connections? .... for an apparently successful businessman who has met the President and the Governator, and who is such a rising star, (your words not mine) I was surprised to see a post so littered with spelling mistakes.

But, lets get past my pessimistic attitude (I'm sorry I don't like politicians much) and assume you are genuine. Would I be right in assuming you maybe want help because you think this is getting out of control and you've got too much to lose? If so don't worry there are plenty of things you can do to be discrete. Crossdressing can be additive especially if you get a rush from it. Just relax and enjoy it. Have fun with it. If you really are what you say you are then you deserve it as with such a hectic lifestyle this could be just the stress buster you need.

[sterling12]

Ladies, I think your getting "cranked." Take a look at Kimmy's last post. "Rising,young, political stars" know how to use The Spell-check and I would imagine that they also would know how to capitalize proper names.

I actually do know some Transgurl's who are dyed in the wool NeoCons. I could make an argument that for someone transgendered to be supporting Republicans and the Religious Right, would be about like Jews supporting The Nazi Party in Germany, during the 1930s. But, to each his own. Those folks have the right to run their life as they see fit.

Anyway, I guess we are doing exactly what is required. We are responding! Hope that gives Kimmie a lot of chuckles.

Peace and Love, Joanie

[sandra-leigh]

IT WAS SUCH A RUSH! putting on womens clothing again. I haven't done it since I was 12. I went on a $2000 online spending spree on pumps, breast forms dresses, swimsuits, lengerie, pantyhose, books you name it. I cant wait until it all arives. And I can't stop doing it.

Around here, the expression that would often be used for that, is "the pink fog" -- that once someone in some sense or other get permission to dress (even if only from themselves) that it isn't uncommon to rush and try to take it all in at once, not infrequently pushing the boundaries of those around them too far and not infrequently making decisions that might come to be second-thought when things calm down. I've also sometimes seen the term "the pink rush" used, with "rush" in that case hinting at the "rush" that accompanies doing drugs.

There's no antidode for "pink fog", except to exercise deliberate self control, to tell yourself "I'm going to savour this over time rather than try it all at once".

If it should turn out that you have difficulty in controling your pink fog, then I would suggest that politics might not be the best match for you, as you would need to question how you would handle the "rush" that accompanies power for some people.

The good news on the political front is that the Democrats cannot directly attack cross-dressing without risking their claims to diversity and tolerance, nor without risking damage to their LGBT (Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transexual) constituancy. But what the Democrats do go to town on is apparent hipocrasy. For example, a recently passed bill had offered protection from discrimination on several grounds, including "gender identity"; if there had been a situation where it had turned out that you had argued against such a clause, you would be vulnerable. And you can expect the case of the transgendered city manager (Florida) to continue to have importance; if it were ever the case that you had voted against her (or similar people) based upon a "family values" argument, and it were later found that you were a crossdresser yourself, then you would be vulnerable.

The greatest political difficulty is potentially not from the opposing party, but rather from your own party. I gather (from here in Canada) that being divorced or having been an alcoholic or drug addict (esp. "white collar drugs") is not necessarily a barrier to GOP candidacy; it thus comes down to how the party apparatus believes whatever personal faults you may have will affect your "marketability". In California, anything could happen -- it could even be seen as positive, just the same way that a strongly GOP gay candidate is considered good because such a thing offers reasurance to homosexuals that there is room for them in the GOP, that it really is possible to be gay and to strongly believe that the Democrats are not the right answer for the country. Generally speaking, your fiscal and social policies would be examined along with your charisma and your ability to get people to trust that you will make sound judgements. If you are believed to be strong in electability, then a pecularity will be determined not to be a significant problem -- but if you happen to be going up against a strong opponent, then it could be decided that the peculiarity could prove too distracting from the messages that are to be brought across to the electorate.

Though I just reviewed your note about "HARDCORE" conservatives... ummm, yeah, that could be a problem.

[battybattybats]

Hmm... I would suggest that as someone who may be about to enter politics that you consider standing on your principles at the cost of everything else or you decline all offers to do so.

If that means you have to reconsider all your political thoughts and risk the ire or ostracism of family and friends then do so if you want to hold public office. That does not mean you have to come out. What someone does legally in the privacy of their home is there own business. However it would mean that you should not vote against legislation that would be at odds with your newfound experiential truth.

If for example you were discovered as a closet crossdresser and had a history of supporting pro GLBT legislation and argued that it was no body elses business but your own it could possibly be bad.. but think how bad it would be if you had regularly voted for anti GLBT legislation! You would want to avoid Haggard style hypocrasy.

[Leah B]

There IS a way to come out AND still be electable. Really, considering what some politicians have done and still not been run out of town, this can be done.

But I couldn't live with myself if I helped a Republican politician.

[kerrianna]

Let's face it Kimberley, you're on the wrong side of the fence.

Cross on over where you are not only accepted but embraced!

Or better yet...be yourself and be brave and help people in your circles see that there is nothing wrong with a person based on how they dress or what they like to do in their own private time.

Where you stand that is indeed bravery, and if that is the help you need, to be brave, then we're here for you hon.

[Stephanie32]

Thanks for bringing up the spell check. Since this is my first thread. It was a little distracting. I didn't notice the icon on the right side, and I’m having some difficulty with ie spell
Tess thank you for being so articulate, I think you are right about this being a pink rush. My political ambitions will not be for at least another 4 years. I don't like the climate for 2008, and nobody runs when they are in their 20’s unless they are part of a political dynasty. You get your feet wet running campaigns, being a businessman or going to war. They just network you in with the right people at my age.
But it has occurred to me that the path to greater cd acceptance is through Hollywood, and pop culture. Not through government. Movies and tv shows that could take a humorous bent on the issue, without a gay context would do more for making this acceptable by the masses than any civil rights bill passed by congress.

[Stephanie32]

Hypocracy is hugh for me. Mark Folly and his sexual excapades, and Duke Cunningham seeming to use his war record as a shield for commiting acts of massive coruption. Democrats are bad too. But I won't get into them it would take to long.
In Califonia, labor rules with an iron fist, the political environment is not friendly to business. Businesses either move to greener pastures in Nevada or Arizona, or outsource high paying jobs over sees. The highly motivated individual should have the ability to experience the american dream, and its not happening here in California.
WRT social issues, my additude towards gays are to "just be cool." I'll respect you if you respect me. Live and let live. But many parents don't appreciate sexuality being flaunted for their children to see in public or on tv, and that should be respected too. But thats not to say I don't acknowledge gay contributions to america. Heck lets face it most of them are responsible for pop culture, eg. Hollywood and fashion, I gues thats a good thing. Except my girlfriend spends so much money on clothes, its difficult for us to budget for a trip to Europe. But then again if all women dresses like the Amish, I doubt cross dressing would be enjoyable.

[battybattybats]

Movies and tv shows that could take a humorous bent on the issue, without a gay context would do more for making this acceptable by the masses than any civil rights bill passed by congress.

While generally true, being illegal to discriminate against, or fire someone for being a, croossdresser would help an aweful lot of people. Immediatly as opposed to the wait for cultural shift.

But many parents don't appreciate sexuality being flaunted for their children to see in public or on tv, and that should be respected too.

I can respect that they don't appreciate that just like I respect any anti-freedom of speech viewpoint.. oh.. wait.. I live in a country without a formal freedom of speech only an assumed one! In fact we don't have a bill of rights and we flagrently disregard the U.N. convention on Human Rights too... but yes I respectfully disagree with the notion that there should be any limitation on freedom of speech. In fact anyone who believes in freedom of speech should support the 'change the channel' argument. Free speech is free only as long as it is unrestricted surely?

Might I suggest some reading material? Plato Socrates Aristotle Kant Voltaire Hobbes... anything involving the 'enlightnement'.. maybe a little Jefferson too.. simple basic ethics... maybe the US constitution and the bill of rights?

[Stephanie32]

"Might I suggest some reading material? Plato Socrates Aristotle Kant Voltaire Hobbes... anything involving the 'enlightnement'.. maybe a little Jefferson too.. simple basic ethics... maybe the US constitution and the bill of rights?"

Betty. I've read them all. My point was that I'm respectful to others, if they themselves are repectful to me amongst others. Is it not hypocritical to insist that others be respectful of an alternative lifestyle, yet not be respectful of their traditional lifestyle? If you insist on preaching tolerance, yet practice intoleance towards others. You will only recieve resistance and furthur bigiotry. "just be cool."
The role of parents is that of protector, of what they percieve as a threat. You will not recieve converts from them by supporting an alternative lifestyle, by drum beating the first amendment, and calling yourself enlightenened by quoting esoteric political literature. They would insist that a strict intrepretation of the bible is the path to enlightnment. In reality politics is so subjective, that is dependant on which party has the best salesmen and administrators working for them.
With regards to the first amendment. It is your right to use it to offend people any way to want. But you cannot complanin and silence others like Don Imus when they say things that are offensive. I will defend your first amendment right to attack my beleifs with the second amendment. Unless you libs try to take that away. But would that not be self defeating.

[Ekatcha]

Firstly, its Spokane... no H. =)

Secondly, interesting position you must find yourself in. Political opinions are, I belive, completely indepdendant of who you find yourself to be. By that I mean, you can believe what you want irregardless of CDing or transgendered, or whatever. That said, there are political platforms which seem to align themselves in particular directions. The GOP seems, at times, opposed to alternative thought such as CDing and the like. Must be difficult to reconcile those a bit, would be for me. From a personal perspective, I am politically much like everything else... undecided. =)

If you hold asperations for office, there must be some concern that what you really think/feel inside will come out someday. Given the flow of information these days and how easy it is to pull records, this seems likely, especially going forward. The powers used and sought by those in power make these sorts of lookups trivial... but then again, perhaps they'll look away if your aligned with the right party when the time comes.

Myself, I believe that your rights extend only so far as they don't tred upon mine. Its the respectful of others that you mention. I think if each of us keep this in mind, then regardless of political offiliation, its good for the whole of society. I do think you're right that in this day in age, "politics is so subjective, that is dependant on which party has the best salesmen and administrators working for them." It's sad, to me, that it's come to this. The esoterical political literature you mention had dreamed of so much more. Begs the question, what has become of us, as a society? Hopefully the political process has not degraded to the point that the use of the freedoms granted in the 2nd amdendment become necessary.

Should you hold office someday, bring to it what you know of this community, and what developes out of it. Long term, it can only make you, and the rest of us, better people. Not knowing what you want, personally, out of the community thats about all I can say... well that and I wish I had your wardrobe allowance!

~ Eka

[Fab Karen]

After seeing what happened to Jim West in Spokehane WA, and all my friends are HARDCORE conservatives along with my parents and girlfriend who beleive the only thing they hate more thann gays are Al Queda. I could loose everything, if I don't get this under control. I mean I feel like if this gets out. I might as well be caught on Dateline NBC to catch a predator, with Chris Hansen. again help

You may have outed yourself already- you felt the need to tell us details which anyone with connections in Sacramento could potentially discover who you are.
Add to this that anyone entering the right phrase into a search engine could stumble upon your post in this public forum- you don't have to be a member to read it. Assuming of course that this ISN'T some bullshit story( the detector is beeping), this is political suicide for a republican.

[Teresa Amina]

Having fun yet? If you're sincere you're putting yourself in a very hazardous position. Look what happened to Susan Stanton, a simple city manager with no real political intentions. As a rising star you'll be eaten for lunch as soon as they've used you for whatever you're worth.
Have a nice day!

[TxKimberly]

Hi Kimberley and to the forum. Always nice to greet another California girl. Help? If you need help shopping, count me in.

You are soo funny Holly. By the way, count me in on the shopping trip too! :-)

Kimberly (Yeh I know, yet ANOTHER Kimberly! If I'd have known the damn was so popular, I might have chosen another one. lol)

[MsJanessa]

first of all I'm assuming that you are for real and not some troll out to get a couple of laughs although I agree with some of the other posters here that something doesn't really ring true about you---anyway my first bit of advice is watch the credit card spending---if it gets out of hand it can become real trouble. Secondly you should know, if you don't already, that crossdressing and conservative politics don't really mix well. In order to be successfull, conservative politicians have to pander to the religous right. Ask any evenglical christian what they think of Us and they will make the sign of the cross and say they will pray for our souls and that we stop the sin of x-dressing. Either that or they will say that We should all be put in jail. If you want to have any hope of being elected on a conservative ticket you either have to be so far in the closet that you will never see daylight (and always be paranoid that you will be outed by someone) or will have to give up cding completely, which is extremely difficult to do. My advice to you right now is to concentrate on building a successful busines(BTW what kind of business are you in?) and to make yourself financially secure---put your political ambitions on hold for now. You have a life to live in the present. Good luck

[lynn27]

If you are serious about a political carrer you better master that spelling thing [I haven't]. California IS spelled with a "R", you should know that, you do live there, don't you?]. Also, overseas is one word and American is ALWAYS spelled with a capital "A".

Locally we had a councilman who was a "rising star", two or three terms and looking at country wide or state wide office. He's a veteran and he had a fundraiser with a huge banner welcoming some Veteran's organization. He misspelled "Veterans" on the banner. He has lost three elections since that banner...

...In Califonia, labor rules with an iron fist, the political environment is not friendly to business. Businesses either move to greener pastures in Nevada or Arizona, or outsource high paying jobs over sees.... ...america....

As far as crossdressing and a political carrer go, you might want to give one up. i.e. I don't see Rudy getting much popular support once mainstream America see all his crossdressing video's and photos on a nightly basis...