gurls, girls or Women

[wannabie]

Hi,

I've been reading alot of these post and I really have to object to the term gurls.

I really don't consider myself a girl(a five to 12 year old) or gurl(fake girl, if that the meaning).

How about Ladies or Women. I'm sure most of us here are over 18 and when we talk about our CDing we are relating about woman to other woman.

In that way I don't have to feel like I'm wearing pigtails and bows.

[Kieron Andrew]

i always address all you girls whether mtf or GG, as ladies.........unless im told otherwise that the person doesnt like it

[Tamara Croft]

We've had this question before... http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...ad.php?t=53062

[Chrysoprase]

Hi,

I've been reading alot of these post and I really have to object to the term gurls.

I have to agree. "gurls" is pretty demeaning.

[Chantelle CD]

If I use gurl, its because its a typo, i tend to sound out words as I'm typing, thinking about it now though, a woman sounds more our age, a lady is delicate and pretty, girl and boy has a young feel to it.

[Carolka GG]

We may have had the question before, but it keeps coming up for a reason, as far as I can see.

My personal vote is for "women". Dictionary definition of "girl" is "female child" (can also be the equally demaning maid, miss, damsel, or hired girl) and I believe we are all over 18 - or supposed to be. In my neck of the woods, albeit happily leftist, the term used more frequently in everyday conversation is "women" or "womyn". These terms carry more power, so lots of people are still afraid to use them ~ and (yup, I'll say it again) traditionally men have not wanted to share power with women. If we are kept children, of course they won't have to.

Even "ladies" - while polite and lovely - implies the stereotype with all of the constraints that go with it.

I thought this forum was about breaking away from those sorts of constraints.

Words are powerful in the long run....if we have an opportunity to make the language we use more equitable, it's usually better for us as a species.

Even our bureaucratic governments seem to have figured that out at long last!

Carolka

[insearchofme]

I'm not a woman, a lady or a girl. Since I am none of the afore mentioned "gurl" is OK with me.

[chucks]

how about grrl?

[Billijo49504]

Sorry, butr I use gurls for us CD or TS gurls, and girls from the GG on the net.....BJ

[prettywithsideburns]

I for one don't care what anyone calls me as long as it's not intended as an insult.

[Kate Simmons]

It matters little to me, although my choice is to be called by my name rather than a title or pronoun.

[sobe1ove GG]

I like to be called a lady. And a miss. Like, I hate when people call me ma'am. I'm 24 for heck's sake!

But, yeah, I'm a lady.

(Oh, and I like pigtails and bows! Then again, I'm hella girly.)

Anyway, this is just a GG's opinion. A 'genetic/genuine girl'. Even us real women can't get away from the term 'girl' in the CD community.

Sobe

[Daintre]

I prefer to be called Jen

[DianaGomez]

Well, I understand your concern but as for me, I'm a girl, thats what I feel and consider. Yes, a woman but for many of us, no matter the age, this is like going through puberty again. Sorry! Kisses....

[sterling12]

Object all you want, you have that right. But, people on here will still be using "gurl." I do it myself, it's an easy way to distinguish ourselves from GGs, (Whoops that's probably another one you might object to....so demeaning.)

Seriously, is it really that important? I have a feeling that 1000 years from now, no anthropologist will be studying our thoughts and it "really don't matter!"

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Leah B]

The word "girl" is only insulting given that the term "man" is the opposite; girl implies youth. But lately it seems that "boy" is tossed about among women too. Personally, I think both are good for casual use, but should be used carefully since some may find them offensive.

As for this board, It is unacceptable that GG refers to the women of the board, and GM refers to the men. I advocate that either GG become GW or GM becomes GB. Looking at the most practical solution, I think GMs should be henceforth referred to as GBs.

[kerrianna]

I can understand why people like to be called different terms. They're all legit reasons.

So what I like is "girl"

I know as an adult it should be woman, although adult men are sometimes affectionately called the boys, and adult women called the girls, both by either gender.

More importantly for me, besides the fact that I feel like a teenage girl in many ways (learning stuff GWs (gg) learned when they were younger), I have the privelage of not having the term girl used to belittle me. In fact I WANT to give that power I have as a male away. I actually like the way being called girl releases me from the male power arena. I can understand why many women wouldn't want that though.

As for variations on it's spelling I do not want to distinguish myself from Natal Females (just to confuse everyone more ) . I don't want to be seen as not-really-a-girl gurl gyrl grrl etc. I want to be one of the GIRLS.


Oh yeah, I agree with Leah. I have no problem also being refered to as a Genetic Boy. I think the concept of Genetic refers to 'born as' (which is why Natal is also suitable) and we aren't born as men we are born as boys. LOL, I typed 'we are born as girls' first.

[KewTnCurvy GG]

Well, though most may be surprised by this, I'm a feminist.
At first I bristled here at the term "GG" and would prefer "GW".
However, after some thought, consulting with Will (as in Shakespear) I decided that a rose by any other name, would smell as sweet.
So, GG it is.
But, I use the term "grrlz" and "boiz" as many of you may notice.
Kew's 2

[kerrianna]

But, I use the term "grrlz" and "boiz" as many of you may notice.
Kew's 2

That's just cuz you get 10 points everytime you use a 'Z'

[Victoria Anne]

you know I have never given thought to the issue as I have personally used all the afore mentioned terms. Thinking about it I do prefer to be called Viccy or refered to as a women or lady.

[O2B Barbara]

I for one don't care what anyone calls me as long as it's not intended as an insult.

Sounds good to me.

[Falcor]

I don't mind any term really,most are said in affection.....old girl?
OK as well.

[Kelsy]

[SIZE="3"]With all due respect to the ggs , I know that I am a gm and I would not like to be accused of high jacking a term but I prefer "girl". That's what love and they are who I try to emulate. I have been called every name in the book but I have never objected to being called a girl

Jennifer[/SIZE]

[Tamara Croft]

As for this board, It is unacceptable that GG refers to the women of the board, and GM refers to the men. I advocate that either GG become GW or GM becomes GB. Looking at the most practical solution, I think GMs should be henceforth referred to as GBs.

I've told you before, aint happening, been there, done that, had the vote, etc etc, GG stays!!!

[Fab Karen]

I've told you before, aint happening, been there, done that, had the vote, etc etc, GG stays!!!

GG is an old phrase of the community, & it rolls off the tongue easily.
Btw, if I'm not in girl-mode, I'd be flattered to be called a boy.