Some of you are crazy!? good on ya...

[Ria]

I'm new here...Hi

I read a few posts and couldn't believe that many of you go out in public dressed up! Whether you're going to a night club, or to the grocery store. Thats crazy! I just can't wrap my head around that idea. Don't get me wrong, good on ya for having the balls to do that.

I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?

Are you guys ok with that? If I got caught my business would be over. Openess about my little secret is out of the question for me.

The more I read here the more questions I have about this culture.

[SheilaM]

Just keep reading and asking questions - you have much to learn, grasshopper.

[Angie G]

To some of us it is away of life And it doesn't matter if Jack and Jill across the street sees you or not. this thing is the way some of just are and it can't be helped
Angie

[Nicki B]

I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

What's wrong with being passable as a t-girl??


Anyway, maybe you haven't got the right set of wheels...Attachment 58506

[Sandra]

Ok Ill answer this as an SO of a crossdresser.

I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

Sorry I have to disagree with you here. I have seen cders who are not Thai and of an average build and yes they pass, even close up.

When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car?

Yes our neighbours see my SO do we mind? Hell no they know all about her and why worry what people think, it's your life not theirs.

Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing)

Why would you find it amazing if a person did pass? There are a lot of girls out there who do pass as a woman.

don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?

Again no worries all the people who live near us know about Nigella

Passing isn't everything for some cders and there is a lot who are out and about.

Work my SO cds 24/7 and work is no problem, all the managment and staff are all supportive,so is the general public she comes into contact.

[Kate Simmons]

Guilty as charged, me crazy any other questions?As far as the neighbors seeing me when I leave, sure I even wave at them. As far as passing, I don't now or never have cared. My object for going out is to have fun being myself, not to pass someone's else's scrutiny, too much work.

[JoAnnDallas]

You would be surpised how many people don't take notice of other people around them as long as they don't stand out. If I were to go out with Red/Blue/Green Spike hair, hell yes, I would be noticed the second I steped out of the house. But when I got out dressed, I dress like most GG's do and I don't over due my makeup. Then I simply blend in with all the other people out and about. Yes occasionly I am sure that I have been read, most most people will not make a fuss about it. Most people are too concerned with their own lives to notice.
I remember once while standing in line to check out, when this GG and her girl friend came into the store. her girl friend was on her cell phone. The other GG turn and looked my way, I smiled, she smile, and then turned back to her girl friend. I bet if you went up to her later and asked her what I looked like or was wearing, I bet she could not even remember looking at me. I was just another face/person in a crowd of faces/people.
You don't have to look 100% like a GG to pass. All you need to do is look enough like a GG to blend in with all the other people around you.

[Teresa Amina]

having the balls

The key is to get those things out of the way

[jennifer41356]

I'm new here...Hi

I read a few posts and couldn't believe that many of you go out in public dressed up! Whether you're going to a night club, or to the grocery store. Thats crazy! I just can't wrap my head around that idea. Don't get me wrong, good on ya for having the balls to do that.

I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

I am not very tall and i am very lucky to have a fem voice, so no probs there

When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?

I live in an apt and have also lived in a house, being single didnt know my neighbors so I really didnt/dont care what anyone thinks, its none of their bizness anyhoo

Are you guys ok with that? If I got caught my business would be over. Openess about my little secret is out of the question for me.

If where I work ever found out and canned me, i would sue the heck out of em and be the new CEO

[Rachael Turner]

I go out of town and have no problems. I don't usually go out around my home town to make things easier.


I consider myself an 8 iron passable cd. I look good from about 140 yards.

Up close I look good but won't pass. Key is confidence and don't let anyone deter you. Be ready for any situation. Its not for everyone. You need to have really thick skin to go out in public and be successful.

[MJ]

I'm new here...Hi

I read a few posts and couldn't believe that many of you go out in public dressed up! Whether you're going to a night club, or to the grocery store. Thats crazy! I just can't wrap my head around that idea. Don't get me wrong, good on ya for having the balls to do that.

not at all i don't have any balls .well very little lol .at that time is was a part of me and i got the nerve up and just did it ..yes i was scared to death ..but nothing happened

I'm sure many of you are beautiful dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

Beautiful Dressed up !! not me lol and my voice .. think Silvester Stallone in a dress .. close up not a chance .. it's how you carry yourself

When you leave your house, condo, townhouse etc, don't your neighbors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy across the street notice you and put it together?

well from a distance i look OK . and my neighbors thought it was my girl friend using my car until they found out

Are you guys OK with that? If I got caught my business would be over. Openness about my little secret is out of the question for me.

The more I read here the more questions I have about this culture.

well once the bomb dropped and everyone found-out all i could do was sit back and Wait for the dust to settle and see who was left standing with me .
you find out real quick who your true friends are ...
and you make new and amazing friends along the way

[joann07]

We may be crazy, but we're manly enough to go out, show our feminine side, and express ourselves how we want to be.

I'll take a crack at these too.

I read a few posts and couldn't believe that many of you go out in public dressed up! Whether you're going to a night club, or to the grocery store. Thats crazy! I just can't wrap my head around that idea. Don't get me wrong, good on ya for having the balls to do that.

I have been fully crossdressing for just over a year (started Oct 2006) and, back then, the thought of me going out in public never even crossed my mind.
After I joined my local Tri-Ess support group (Tri-Beta - Tampa/St. Pete), I was inspired by my fellow sisters who had years of experience going out in public. By getting to know them and talk about their experiences, they took me under their wings, offered me encouragement, and opened the door to a whole new experience.
I was so full of enthusiasm that I was determined to perfect my appearance, presentation, mannerisms, etc, etc. so that I could, one day, go out in public. When I felt I was ready, I did it and what a wonderful experience it was.
I was definitely nervous, but I stayed calm and treated it like any other day.
As I went out more and more frequently, I built up my confidence to the point where I hardly get nervous anywhere I go.
I've learned and done more things in a year's time than what some crossdressers have probably done in their lifetime and that was because I had a hunger to go out and do it.
One of my biggest feats last year was flying in femme. That was something that I had only dreamed of, but once I did it, it was a breeze. I had no issues with security whatsoever and I was treated just like any other woman passenger, with repect and courtesy. I got no strange stares, remarks, or anything, and what a huge confidence booster that was.
Now if I could do that, I can do anything.

I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

I'm not Thai, but I am Asian (Filipino) and I take great pride in myself to look very presentable as a woman.
I've had numerous comments and compliments from gays, lesbians, straight guys, and straight females, etc, etc. and they all thought I was a real woman. That speaks volumes and is such a reassuring feeling to hear that from ordinary people.
Although my femme voice is still a work in progress, my confidence, mannerisms, presentation, and personality more than make up for it.

I've seen many other non-Asians crossdressers, tall and short, who look just as presentable as a woman and I too have been fooled before.
Even though I know a person is a crossdresser, I still see them as a woman regardless.
If I suspect a person is, I respect their privacy and their right to be how thay want to be.
There are no signs or signals that crossdressers use to acknowledge one another, but the best thing to do is nothing because blending in and being accepted all they want to do.

Me in Oct 2006. Now I know I never would've gone out looking like that.


My flying attire during my Chicago trip.


My most recent photo

When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?

I used to be afraid of my neighbors, but then I came up straight with one of them and they have no problem with it whatsover.
He saw me a couple of times and actually thought he was seeing my "HOT sister" and so when I told him, he was so surpised and amazed.
My other neighors have probably seen me as well, but since I pass so well, they would probably assume that I'm a girlfriend or a relative that comes and goes.

Are you guys ok with that? If I got caught my business would be over. Openess about my little secret is out of the question for me.

Luckily, I work in a big corporation that has its own anti-discrimination policy with regards to sexual indentity and gender expression so if I was to come to work dressed I will not be treated any differently.
I have yet to do that, but maybe one day.

I've posted many of my outting experiences because I want to inspire others, just like how I was inspired, and show everyone that if I can do it, anything is possible.
If it weren't for the support of my Tri-Ess sisters, the lovely ladies on this site, and my close and personal GG friend, I know I wouldn't be how I am and doing the things I do today.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to send me a PM or email and I would gladly answer your questions.

Hugs!

[Di]

I read a few posts and couldn't believe that many of you go out in public dressed up! Whether you're going to a night club, or to the grocery store. Thats crazy! I just can't wrap my head around that idea. Don't get me wrong, good on ya for having the balls to do that.
I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off?
When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?
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Another s.o. answering If going out isn't your cup of tea..then just be yourself. Nothing crazy about it. We have a social
life of Sher and Di and a seperate life of just us two. And have to disagree with you . I have seen cders who are not Thai and of an average build and yes they pass, even close up. My s.o. esp.
And as far as going out if someone would see us...they would NEVER PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER....the guy side and girl side are like night and day. We do go in my car.And anyone seeing us would only think two girls out and about.

[Nicole Erin]

I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

Yes, the Thai transsexuals you find on porn sites are quite passable.

When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?

I don't really talk to my neighbors anyways. I could give two craps what they think if I did get caught by them.

Are you guys ok with that? If I got caught my business would be over. Openess about my little secret is out of the question for me.

As for some other CD's also. It is not unusual. Me, my job sucks so the only real way I would lose my job is if they outsourced or if I kept calling off work.

The more I read here the more questions I have about this culture.

It seems a lot to absorb. ShielaM said it best - you have much to learn, young grasshopper.

[Stargirl]

I'm new here...Hi

I read a few posts and couldn't believe that many of you go out in public dressed up! Whether you're going to a night club, or to the grocery store. Thats crazy! I just can't wrap my head around that idea. Don't get me wrong, good on ya for having the balls to do that.

I'm sure many of you are beautifull dressed up... but passable as a woman? up close? Unless your Thai or a very small man how can you pull it off? and the voice!

When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?

Are you guys ok with that? If I got caught my business would be over. Openess about my little secret is out of the question for me.

The more I read here the more questions I have about this culture.

I have seen PLENTY of large/tall biological women who look like men in drag, and I said hello, and realised that she was most likely 100% female. (no offense meant here, just an observation). It's fairly easy to pass when "dressed down," sometimes. The frumpy look is more common nowadays. "Plain Jane". Not an insult, just a fact. Anything goes in Las Vegas. Purple mohawk hair ? Okay. Bag lady in sequined dress and tennis shoes ? Man in a dress ? No big deal. I am sure in some of the phobic, backward towns, and cultures, the "monkeys" might feel like throwing coconuts at another monkey wearing palm leaves, and shell earrings. I am more uncomfortable around the phobes than a man in high heels. The lucky crossdressers are those who don't have to worry about being fired, because THEY are the boss.

[Joy Carter]

Each to his/her own. I don't fault anyone who stays in their comfort zone.

[tricia_uktv]

Were all here for different reasons, and not all of us go out dressed. Some like myself - and it would appear yourself, can't do it close to home. So we do it away from home - I'm going away on Wednesday and will spend two days dressed and I can't wait. This means that family and business are bypassed. Can I pass? In general yes (definately from 400 yards), but anybody who looks hard enough will see through me. Do I care? No, not any more but its taken an awful lot of time and courage to get to this position. Do I enjoy it and is it really me? Yes, yes, yes

[RobertaFermina]

Welcome Fastchanger,

What some of us do may not be right for you at this time.

"Going Out" in order to prove courage or status is stupid...there are real physical, emotional, and professional dangers and consequences. "Going Out" because it gives you more of who you are and wish to be is worthy of reasonable risk-taking....REASONABLE.

Whatever you see here, "Your mileage may vary!"

On the other hand, It is a real thrill to be myself entirely and interact with others....give myself a broader experience of life as a CrossDresser.


Before going out.....
Some of us insist on perfection in passing, visually and in voice.
Others, like me, are happy with a convincing suggestion of femininity, and feminine-leaning personality.
Others may be happy to wear a burlap sack, with a satin bow and a beard.

Some are content to never go out.

Some are burning with the desire to go out and still working it out within themselves to make it possible or make peace with leaving well enough alone.


To each their own.

Find your own, Fastchanger, and get to it !

Roberta

[Fab Karen]

[SIZE="3"]"Miracles will happen as we speak
But we're never gonna survive unless
We get a little crazy
No we're never gonna survive unless
We are a little
Crazy"
-Seal[/SIZE]

[Deborah Jane]

Hi Fastchanger!! I don,t go out "dressed" yet, but i,m still crazy
I,m planning to do my 1st trip out very soon, so i guess that means i,ll be even crazier then!!
BTW Even my therapist thinks i,m crazy in a crazy kind of way!!

[christid66]

There are many girls on here that look passable.

I'm still in the closet and although I know I'd never pass, I'd love to go out. However, I'd only go out with other CD's to an accepting club or somewhere similar. However, that's just me.

To the girls that are out in the open......

[Eugenie]

I'm new here....

Dear new sister,

It is quite natural to feel the way you feel right now...

I felt the same when I entered the world of X-dressing, thanks to forums like this one. I coul'nt believe some "sisters" were going out in public fully dressed "en femme".

I would never have tought a single second that I would someday find myself walking "en femme" in the streets of a large city, in full day light, take a cab to go to a restaurant, go to a meeting, etc.

Don't worry, some sisters who have been here very long don't go out, either. Be it because they don't feel the need, which is perfectly OK or be it because they don't feel ready yet to do so, which is also perfectly understandable.

So you shouldn't feel sorry to have asked the question, which what some very direct answer to you post may have you feel...

The more I read here the more questions I have about this culture.

Remember: "The one who asks a question looks stupid 5 minutes; the one who doesnt' ask questions is stupid for life..."

And yes indeed, the more I think of it, the more I feel Crossdressers have developped their own culture, which is a great one to learn about and be part of.


Eugenie

[tamarav]

[SIZE="3"]Welcome! I hope that your name means that you are able to change your mind quickly also. It doesn't pay to be closed minded in this forum, balls are a constant topic...

I go out daily, work dressed, interact with clients and vendors al the time, go to Subway looking for Jarad and generally any damn thing I want to do. There are lots of us who do what we want and made changes in our lives to allow us to do what we want and not have to worry about what other people may think.

If my company fired me for dressing they would lose their biggest drawing card...

Your sis, sort of,

Tami[/SIZE]

[deja true]

Hi Fasty, the extensive archives behind all these threads is a great place to get lots on answers and opinions real quick, especially when a lot of the girls are at work or off-line. Hundreds of pages of threads like this one. Your questions are not odd ... or even new. Check the archives for instant enlightenment... and also some good background on many of the more experienced girls here.

Sure it's scary, but you'll get over it!!

respect (for well-meaning curiosity) & love

deja

[sandra-leigh]

When you leave your house, condo, townhome etc, don't your nieghors see you getting into your car? Even if you did pass as a women in public (which I would find amazing) don't you ever get made getting into or out of your car. wouldn't the guy accross the street notice you and put it together?

In five years (which goes back before I started crossdressing), the guy across the street has never even said hello to me. His wife has spoken to me precisely three times, one of which was after I started going out of the house dressed. What they think of me is not exactly on the forefront of my mind: they are effectively strangers, by their own choice. (They lived there 50 years before I arrived, so I am possibly too nouveau for them )

The family that lives beside them has not spoken to me any less since I started going out of the house dressed -- we are still on good terms. The family on the other side of the first neighbours... lemme see... I think we've exchanged hellos twice in five years.

The family that lives on one side of me continues to be the same -- which is to say that the wife and son sometimes say hello, and I talk about gardening and lawn care and the like and minor personal stuff with the husband. We get along well enough, but I wouldn't say "friends". Close enough that I could ask them to mind my house for a few days, but not close enough that they would be my first choice.

The husband and wife that live on the other side of me... well, I am definitely busted with them. After a late evening out for me fully dressed, they happened to get on the same last bus of the night, and they immediately recognized me. So I did some damage control by walking home with them from the bus stop to our houses -- demonstrating, in other words, that I wasn't hiding from them or feeling guilty about it. The fellow specifically said that it wasn't something he would do himself, but he thought it was cool; the wife didn't say much, but then she seldom had much to say to me before that anyhow (not hostile, just not much in common I guess.) Since that time, both of them have treated me the same as they did before. I know for sure she's seen me go out dressed sometimes since then, as she has sometimes happened to be going down her walkway (3 feet from mine) just as I'm going out to the taxi; she says hello and waves, the same as before.


There is a deli about 350 feet away (go four houses and then cross the street.) They might have put together various clues by now, from me sometimes having painted fingernails, or they might have noticed that some of my shirts are womens' shirts. Everyone there continues to treat me well; indeed, I would say relations there have been improving. I have not openly gone there in a skirt or dress or forms; I have, though, worn all of those there at various times under something more or less concealing. I haven't gone there with a wig, though. The deli is in a perfect position to be the neighbourhood gossip centre if the people there were so inclined; but although they enjoy hearing whatever news we care to tell them, they do not gossip about people.


I have gone openly shopping in a skirt and blouse and forms to the two closest supermarkets, one in either direction. I have yet to see any of my neighbours there while I am dressed. They must shop there sometime, but historically speaking I have been more likely to see a neighbour at a concert or play festival than at the closest supermarkets. Some-day I'll run into some-one I know at one of them while I'm dressed, but not yet. The opposite -- once when I was in drab, I ran into the fellow that I had make me a custom leather bra; I can't remember exactly what I told my wife (who was with me) about how I knew him, but I do recall I didn't mention the custom bra (By that time my wife knew of my dressing, but we still have not talked about my wanting my own cleavage.)


There is no great wisdom in the above; there is a bunch of "What do I care what they think?" with a dose of "Most people don't really give a hoot." My immediate neighbours know and don't get upset.