First sexual meeting

[annabellesmooth]

hi girls
its a funny world out there
im in a gay relationship, so same sex, sex is fine n fun for me
but when dressed up, and on the dance floor it a new and exiting world being flirted with by boys n other crossdresses, boys want to touch you up and have sex , and there are some things that straght boys will do... other cross dressers, usaly dance n flirt very sensualy ohh so femmne, the arousal level just keeps on getting higher an higher untill either is sooo hot
please enjoy live life n be yourself
ps when in a short dance skirt tuck in tight n firm both you n your frend will enjoy
xxx love annabelle

[Carol123]

I havent had any offers yet....

[Patti Girl]

Each of us is different.

The straight/gay/bi three level scale is poor. According to some studies, most people are somewhere between pure straight and pure gay.

Add to that our individual levels of trangender and it gets really confusing ;-)

Personally, I think there are a lot more bi men than we realize, many feel the need to hide and/or deny it. My wife and I used to go to swing clubs and it's amazing how many of the women are bi. Are men the same way but just afraid to admit it?

Myself, I could easily have sex with a man when I'm feeling femme and dressed that way. I'm not sure I'd want to kiss, however, just have good sex, LOL. I don't think I would get as turned on by a CD. I want to be treated as a woman.

Patti

[jayme357]

What an incredible question! I guess I have asked myself similar questions over the years, but the answers to this thread have caused me to rethink the whole process.

I have deluded myself into thinking that my sexual response has been totally tied to my feminine persona. I really believed that! But as I go back through my history I find that I have had four or five incidents of pure homosexual behavior that I had either forgotten about or repressed. The fact that in each case alcohol was a primary catalyst doesn't seem to resolve the issue. A dilema is that I adore women! There is nothing in the world like holding a warm, affectionate woman close and feeling the strength of her emotions. Being that woman for another man ain't bad either. Well, I have enjoyed both, and I feel that I am a better person for it, and certainly a happier one. Can't address the totality of such a significant issue in one post, but you gals have flat got me thinking from a whole new perspective!

[Sherry-Stephanie]

I'm bi, but that came a long time before the CDing came into the picture...

As I teenager first experimenting with sex with others it was the guys who came along first and as soon a girls became avaialbe it was all the girls only for many many years....

Then I met a guy who I became strictly friends with until about 6 months after we met he told me he was gay. Then he gently and more in a kidding way started hitting on me....after about a year or so I finally gave in and got together with him and it was totally "tightened up" over the experience, but decided to give it a second try with him. Unfortunately it didn't happen with him. It was several years before another opportunity came along with some one and we tried it a few times but not the full experience.

Finally, several mores went by and while Iw as dating my wife she mentioned that she was bi and asked if I had ever been with a guy...and would I be interested in being with a guy...I said yes and yes and she set it up for me and it was the first time that I had the "female experience" with a guy. Extremely different from what I've ever had before and at that point I was "hooked".

The process evolved over many years for me and once I fully experienced being with a guy then it took me a while to really work it though my mind as to what I was experiencing and why...finally I came to the realization that for me, I had two sides to my self since I responded very differently to the male verses female experience...a male side (heterosexual) and a female side (gay) and that by definition made me bi-sexual. When I'm with a female I like to do male things and when I'm with a guy I take on the female role. But again cross dressing doesn't have anything to do with it...

You'll just have to get out there and take this journey and see where it takes you....More than likely though it takes a while to come to the final destination of defining who you are and what you want to be...easy decision and it being cut and dry it ain't!!!!

[MichelleNJ]

When I'm not dressed as a girl I never look at a guy sexuly but when I dress I find that I look at guys and girls, maybe as a guy I'm str8(?) and as girl I'm bi

[MsJanessa]

I am bisexual but I do try to resist labelling myself or anybody else by their sexuality---I only prefer sex with men while I'm dressed and only if I can "top" the man---I take pleasure from them, but don't reciprocate---with other CD/TGs?GGs its more a mutual thing although I still insist on being in charge. The hottest times I've had have been with CD/TGs. I couldn't tell from the initial post whether the poster wanted to meet men or other CDs--if other CDs you won't be disappointed,---My advice is to just make sure up front what you expect from the other person sexually and what you are willing to do in the same regard---that way neither of you will be disappointed.

[jeniinnylons]

I am bisexual but I do try to resist labelling myself or anybody else by their sexuality---I only prefer sex with men while I'm dressed and only if I can "top" the man---I take pleasure from them, but don't reciprocate---with other CD/TGs?GGs its more a mutual thing although I still insist on being in charge. The hottest times I've had have been with CD/TGs. I couldn't tell from the initial post whether the poster wanted to meet men or other CDs--if other CDs you won't be disappointed,---My advice is to just make sure up front what you expect from the other person sexually and what you are willing to do in the same regard---that way neither of you will be disappointed.

Where o where do we make a appointment?

[MsJanessa]

Where o where do we make a appointment?

send Me a pm darling and W/we can talk.

[not2late]

Thank you girls.....I have been thinking there was something wrong with (there still maybe but it is not this). When I'm dressed I feel that I desire men I want to please them and be pleased by them. I've only acted on this twice (once after more than a few drinks and the other while out hiking) I enjoyed both experiances (the sober one more) but carried around a ton of guilt.....thinking that there was something wrong with me.
These post have helped me realize that I'm OK , this doesn't meen I'm going to go out and become some kind of easy ****, but I think now I will be able (if it happens)to enjoy the chase, capture, and memories knowing I'm not some kind of freak!

Luv you girls.......thanks!

Sharon playing catchup

[MsJanessa]

I spent a bunch of time (too much time!) chasing down the law. It had to do with Cleveland Ohio specifically, and had to do with women wearing patent leather shoes in public (lest men see the reflection of the women's underwear in the shoes.) However, I went through the current Cleveland ordinances and could not find this law, so I think it must have been repealed by now.

Well what about thigh high stilletto heeled patent leather boots?

[foxyjj111]

i always thought i was hetero but recently went to a TG bar in san diego dressed as a guy (never been out as a girl except for halloween) anyway i met a TG and we went back to her place. i had no idea what to expect but we had a great time (ill spare the details ). i havnt had another experience yet with a guy or TG but will prob do it again soon if i get the chance.
I guess to answer your question though. i def feel the urge to please a man moreso when i am dressed pretty.

[TommiTN]

The advice by several to have your partner wear protection should be heeded, but be aware that "protection" only protects against certain, and curable, STDs. The HIV virus is small enough to pass throught the pores of most condom materials. Think seriously before you do this, and then only with a partner you are certain is disease free.

[Raquel June]

The advice by several to have your partner wear protection should be heeded, but be aware that "protection" only protects against certain, and curable, STDs. The HIV virus is small enough to pass throught the pores of most condom materials. Think seriously before you do this, and then only with a partner you are certain is disease free.

That's ridiculous. HIV may be smaller than the pores in latex, but HIV will not magically pass through a barrier. The cells that HIV infects are too large to pass through latex, and bodily fluids themselves are too viscous to pass through latex, therefore regardless of its size HIV will not pass through latex. That's worse than the people saying oral is super-risky because there is some slight chance of you contracting HIV through your esophagus. At least that's theoretically possible (but studies regarding it are vague, and of the few people who contracted HIV orally, most admit that they had bleeding gums or oral lesions). Latex condoms (and now polyurethane, too) are by far the most recommended method of protecting yourself from HIV, and they work.

The closest thing to an intelligent counter-point I've found is:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a940506.html

Now herpes, that's something you can contract pretty easily with or without a condom, although a condom does help.

http://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/latex.htm

There are two primary ways that STDs can be transmitted. Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), as well as gonorrhea, chlamydia, and trichomoniasis – the discharge diseases – are transmitted when infected semen or vaginal fluids contact mucosal surfaces (e.g., the male urethra, the vagina or cervix). In contrast, genital ulcer diseases – genital herpes, syphilis, and chancroid – and human papillomavirus are primarily transmitted through contact with infected skin or mucosal surfaces.

Laboratory studies have demonstrated that latex condoms provide an essentially impermeable barrier to particles the size of STD pathogens.

Theoretical basis for protection. Condoms can be expected to provide different levels of protection for various sexually transmitted diseases, depending on differences in how the diseases are transmitted. Because condoms block the discharge of semen or protect the male urethra against exposure to vaginal secretions, a greater level of protection is provided for the discharge diseases. A lesser degree of protection is provided for the genital ulcer diseases or HPV because these infections may be transmitted by exposure to areas, e.g., infected skin or mucosal surfaces, that are not covered or protected by the condom.

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AIDS is, by far, the most deadly sexually transmitted disease, and considerably more scientific evidence exists regarding condom effectiveness for prevention of HIV infection than for other STDs. The body of research on the effectiveness of latex condoms in preventing sexual transmission of HIV is both comprehensive and conclusive. In fact, the ability of latex condoms to prevent transmission of HIV has been scientifically established in “real-life” studies of sexually active couples as well as in laboratory studies.

edit: made it a little less cranky

[Deidra Cowen]

For most of my life I tried to be a normal straight guy...was married and all that. However all the way back to highschool I would get strong crushes or feelings of lust for certain guys but I supressed it.

Finally years later after getting divorced I started dressing. Met a 'date' who also dressed but was in boy mode when he met me at the bar. Ended up taking him home and it was literally fireworks going off in my brain as we did different 'stuff' that night! OMG! I knew right then I liked men and I liked being the female.

However...I am not a total bad girl...I honestly have sex probably once a month on average (less then when I was in boy mode!). I am very picky and guys have to meet me in public first before I will go to bed with them usually on a later night. I get more enjoyment from being dressed and going out on the town than I really do from sex...but everyonce in a while I do enjoy sex and probably would have more if I ever found a real boyfriend or even a Tgirl GF.

By the way I was lucky with that first guy, handsome, inshape very sweet...i have had some yucky experiences too so watch out! I also have been with two Tgirls for sex. One was great the other was horrible...so CDs have their ups and downs just like men do. I am a bottom so that rules out most CDs too.

If you experiment...make sure your partner and you wrap it up!!! It is not worth worrying if you caught something till you can go get tested (Aids and Hepitatus are the two STDs that scare the hell out of me..granted warts, herpes, etc are bad but they won't kill ya at least).

Good luck and I hope you figure this out for yourself.

[TommiTN]

Raquel, I'm sorry you're offended as I had no intent to offend anyone, only to offer a word of caution. I only made that statement because I care very much about everyone assciated with this forum.
And I concede my data may have been outdated. But, while condoms have improved over the last decade they are still not 100% effective in preventing HIV transmission.
From your support material:
Cecil replies:

Great letter, P. In more than 20 years of writing this column it's the first defense I've gotten of IV drug use, which to be honest I do think of as "inherently self-destructive." But I didn't say "queer men" were "inherently diseased." I said they were in a high-risk group, which no one disputes, and that while condoms significantly reduce the risk of infection, no one should think they will render you immune to AIDS. Discretion in your choice of sexual partners is a sound strategy regardless of your sexual orientation. That said, by all means use condoms as well.
As for the substantive issue you raise, it's true "the transmission of HIV by genital fluids most probably occurs through virus-infected cells since they can be present in larger numbers than free virus in the body fluids" (Jay Levy, "Pathogenesis of Human Immunodeficiency Virus Infection," Microbiological Reviews, March 1993--an exhaustive treatment of the subject). But it would be wrong to construe this to mean that HIV is transmitted only by cells. When I spoke to Dr. Levy he readily conceded that HIV may be transmitted by free virus as well. He did add that the viscosity of semen may (italics mine) hinder the passage of such virus through the latex barrier.
We could debate the technical stuff all day. My point is this: for whatever reason--pores, improper use, etc.--real-world research shows condoms don't offer 100 percent protection against AIDS. Maybe not, say the AIDS experts, but if you tell people that they'll use it as an excuse not to use condoms. To which I reply: the arguably greater danger is that they'll use condoms the way some weight watchers use Diet Coke--as an excuse to continue dangerous behavior (e.g., promiscuous sex, not gay sex per se). If that's "anti-eros," as some people seem to think, too bad. A friend of mine who died of AIDS attributed his illness to a wild weekend he'd once had. It's hardly anti-sex to wish he'd stayed home


I am by no means anti-sex; Lord knows I've had my share. My point is that a fella named Murphy lives in small percentages such as the 1% or so of defective condoms that get past quality control. 1% equals 100% to persons affected by them. A prudent person will be sure of their partners.

Peace?

[Raquel June]

I am by no means anti-sex; Lord knows I've had my share. My point is that a fella named Murphy lives in small percentages such as the 1% or so of defective condoms that get past quality control. 1% equals 100% to persons affected by them. A prudent person will be sure of their partners.

Peace?

Sorry for sounding mean. I just don't like hearing people going on about, "Sex is always risky, and the only way to be sure is to abstain altogether." It's usually coming from religious people that have the agenda that nobody should be having sex. The problem is that when people start to believe it, it doesn't keep them from having sex. They just think, "Well, it's a risk no matter what, and they're getting pretty good at treating it, so I guess I'll do what I'm gonna do." And if you scare people like that, they'll probably wait to have sex till they're too loaded and too horny to have any chance of doing it safely.

The fact is that almost every time someone gets HIV it's because of not using a condom (or not using it correctly) or IV drug use. You make sure the condom is on when it goes in and you make sure the condom is on when it comes out. Do that, and don't share needles, and your chances of contracting anything are exponentially smaller. Sure, you just might get HIV, but if you practice safe sex the chances of that are significantly lower than your chances of getting killed by a drunk driver on the way to work.

Think back to when you went through puberty. Maybe not so much anymore, but a lot of people believed they were going to go to hell for masturbating. I know people told me it was a possibility. But I did it anyway. Telling people not to have sex is about like telling a kid he'll go blind from playing with himself. It does more harm than good.

And get tested. It doesn't take 3 days to get results back anymore. It's free and it takes about 15 minutes.

[becky9300]

My first time was about 10 years ago with another cd. I find myself attracted to other cds. I think its just the whole fem thing because to look at a guy regularly there is nothing there