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    Breast forms, to attach (glue) or not!

    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]I am starting this post simply as a place for everyone with breast form experience to post their findings, in an effort to help others not make the same mistakes we have made in the past.[/SIZE][/FONT]

    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Breast forms come in every size and material imaginable but this post is limited to the silicone forms that may be attached via some form of adhesive.[/SIZE][/FONT]

    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]I wear my forms daily to work, they are asymetrical and fairly large but that isn't the point. I glue them on daily and have found what works for me might work for others and I wanted to share those experiences. The picture I attached with this post is of me wearing a halter top with medium sized forms, obviously no bra. (see how I always manage to work a picture of me into everyone of the posts I can...)[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]For years I used Hollister 7730 medical grade silicone adhesive, a 3.2 ounce can usually lasts me 3 weeks of daily use. Then someone on this forum talked about 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive, a product found in every large home store, at Wal-Mart, virtually everywhere and the can is 16.75 ounces. I sneered at the mere suggestion that some over the counter spray on glue would do what I wanted it to do.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]One other fact that you need to know before I go on, I use Goo Gone to remove my forms daily, no skin irritation, no degradation of the forms, no problems whatsoever after over three years of hard use. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Back to adhesives. [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]-Hollister 7730 is about $25 to $40 per can depending where you buy it. I usually buy it on eBay and pay about $20 per can with shipping. I generally get 23-25 applications per can. Application time is withing 5 minutes of spraying the adhesive on the forms, after letting them "kick off" a bit so they don't slide. If you wait too long another application of adhesive is needed to revive the first coat.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]-3M Super 77 is about $10 per can for the aforementioned 16.75 ounce can. 3M Super 77 lasts around 140 applications for me. Applications time (and I am still experimenting) is within 10 seconds to 15 minutes spraying only the breast forms, which is the same for both products. The adhsesive is just as aggressive as the Hollister and actually seems to hold better, tighter to my skin. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Both clean up easily with Goo Gone. My procedure to remove breast forms after wearing them.[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]-I place a few sheets of paper towels on the edge of the kitchen sink, I lean over until my chest immediately below the breast forms is against the papertowls holding them in place. I spray Goo Gone onto my chest above the breast forms and let it trickle into the glue. I help it along a bit by spraying and gently prying up an edge of the form to allow the Goo Gone to seep into the glued area. [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Once the glue starts to break down, I let gravity drop the forms onto the paper towels while spraying Goo Gone on the freshly exposed glue line. [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Never try to pull them off too fast, you will regret the tears and abrasions on your skin for weeks to come. [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Once the forms are lying on the paper towels, I take a brush of some sort and spray a bit more Goo Gone onto the freshly exposed surface of the breast form and scrub gently to emulsify the remnants of glue. Then I add Dawn or whatever liquid dish detergent to the flat surface of the form and rub it with my hands until all the Goo Gone is emulsified and has broken down. [/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Then rinse in warm water and take them into the shower and wash with hair shampoo to get the remains of any chemicals off them. Lay nipple down and let the form dry. I pat them dry with a towel and let them sit, until the next time I wear them. If they are not going to be worn for more than a couple of days I put them back in their shaped box for storage and safety.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]None of my forms shows any degradtion of the outer layer at all, in fact they look as good as the day I received them.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Self adhesive breast forms. I have two pair that I have worn many times. Both pair suffer from slippage if I don't wear a bra, and I rarely do. When I get warm and start to "glisten" (remember women don't sweat, they "glisten") the forms will sometimes start a gentle slide down, pretty noticable. that is just my experience, some people wear them with no problems whatsoever.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]Other adhesives: CharleneT just suggested a product named Stick it available from a medical supply sales company. I have no experience with this product and cannot comment other than to say the expense is greater than the 3m but less than the Hollister. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3]OK, thats my $4 worth, anyone else that has more experiences please post so that we all can see what works for others.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    Hi Tamara

    I just started wearing the glue-able forms and I Love them. I had PALS before and they were not attachable, eventhough they gave me a wonderful feelings while wearing them in my bra. The first time I used Hollisters it was wonderful. I could do most everything for 2 days with no bra. The only problem I had was that when I sprayed the forms a bit of it was still wet, HINT:Follow the directions on the can !!! I came away with 2 dime-sized spots that resembled chemical burns. WAIT FOR THE GLUE TO DRY A BIT BEFORE ATTACHING THEM !!! Other than that 1 mishap, I love the way they move, and feel. I'm looking forward to putting them on tonight so my SO and myself can play abit of dress-up. Hugs, Amber

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    3m 77

    Great idea for a post Tami. Good start on the advice and I'm looking forward to seeing the advice develop.

    I searched high and low for 3M super 77 in the UK and concluded that here it's branded as 3M Scotch Weld 77 Multi Purpose Adhesive and comes in a 500ml can which I reckon equates to 16.75 ounces. Goo Gone can be bought here though not everywhere. I finally got some of both.

    I'm working towards glueing my forms on. So far, I've tested it by sticking some plastic to my chest and sure enough, no skin reaction and the Goo Gone cleans it up - so far so good.

    I'd be interested in hearing more about the best way to use 3M. The instructions say - for normal hold, spray 1 surface and for strong hold, spray both. I'm not sure I've got the timing right though as it seems to stay wet for longer than Hollisters and then doesn't stick so well as I've probably not waited long enough.

    Any advice on using 3M particularly (or any glue) would be gratefully received. Hopefully I can add my tuppence soon.

    Marina

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    Thank you Tamara. You always offer such wonderful ideas for all of us to use and employ.

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    Nice thread Tamara.

    I hope they don't move it! This is great info for everybody.

    I can only add the following, because I wear forms for about 2+/- hours at a time:

    I don't do glue ons unless I'm wearing bikinis, etc. Have only used Hollisters and still have my first can! I only spray it on the forms. Perspiration has loosened them on several occasions.

    I use paint thinner to remove Hollisters from me and the forms. However, I always jump in the shower rite afterwards, and put the silicone forms thru the dishwasher, to get rid of the smell. WARNING: this requires a lot of hard rubbing of your skin. Which could be a problem for u! I recommend Goo Off, or a similar product, as Tamara says, it works much better.
    It's so easy to get caught up in your dressing. And, so difficult to explain your "compulsion" to those who don't.

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    hey babe, good post!
    A couple of years ago I got a lot of flack for telling people that I used 3M Super 77 spray. There was also negative reaction regarding the use of turpentine (a completely organic solvent, but with an obnoxious odour) and with low odour Varsol.
    Either way, you can apply your forms several times, but eventually they will need to be cleaned. I bought a little porcelain cooking tray that just accomodates the larger forms. I put some solvent into the tray, the place the form in, pushing it down in the center to force out the air and let the solvent into the centre of the form. I use Varsol, but I imagine that Goo Gone would work just as well!
    I take the forms out of the solvent after 15 or 20 minutes, and scrape the residual adhesive off with a butter knife. I usually repeat this process a couple of times before I thoroughly wash the forms under the tap with dish soap and warm water and then let them dry. I spray them with Femme spray before I put them back in their boxes. Love my forms! w.

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    And I took a different route. I've been using Nu-Hope Medical Adhesive, and I'm very happy with it. It comes in a container with a dauber and you simply brush a thin film around the perimeter of your breast forms. Seems to hold well, and I don't have to worry about overspray. The price is very reasonable, way less than Hollister and it seems to last a long, long, time.

    The Nu-Hope is often used for attaching Ostomy devices and is intended for use next to the skin. That's my only problem with Super 77. It's not specifically for use on human skin and it may contain certain chemicals and solvents that might cause allergic reactions, or worse. A lot of people have recommended it, but I would be very careful.

    Nu-Hope makes their own adhesive remover and I use it for removing The Forms. But your right, I can't find anything better that Goo-B-Gone for cleaning up the residue on The Forms.

    I'm familiar with Nu-Hope and I like their prices, but I would imagine any Ostomy Adhesive would also work. You all might want to try it as an alternative. Just about anything would be cheaper than Hollister's!

    Peace and Love, Joanie

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    well i had experimented with the double sided tape for the forms. well i tore one this morning! i want to cry about it. the tape is supposed to come off but one came off the other form ripped and the tape made little marks on my chest.

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    Wink 3m Super 77

    Great post Tami. I would have never thought of this application for Super 77. I have used it in industry for years and it's great stuff. It's non toxic, in my experience anyway I get it all over my hands, and it holds forever.One suggestion I would make would be to spray very lightly on both serfices and let dry for a few miniutes until tacky. Also it's a good idea to lay on your back until firm because the weight of the forms will cause them to slide down otherwise. It cleans up easily ( Dawn dish detergent is good) and if it doesn't harm the forms as you say I would say try it. Good job Tami what a combination beauty and brains !!
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    Where in the UK?

    Hi Marina!
    Can you tell me where you bought the glue and remover in the UK please? Is it off-the-shelf at B&Q, for example?

    Incidentally, WD40 is good for removing Hollisters. Maybe for the other glue we're discussing.

    Finally, Thank you Tami for more great advice. Your website is brilliant, and so full of great pictures and advice. If anyone hasn't been there, go!!
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    Msds

    Here's a link to a MSDS for the 3M 77 spray.

    http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/m...0/wcd0005c.htm
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    I know two gals who use Duro which can be found at Wal-Mart and paint stores. They also use Goo Gone for clean up.
    I am so glad you have had similar results that I have had. Also, "goo gone" will take the glue right off your forms or skin in a hurry. Also if you use a heavier spraying of the forms(I coat them twice), they will stay on longer. Also, I use fairly large forms, size 8 which is like a large C or a small D and they stay on just fine, even with no bra. I wear mine 24/7 and never have I got a rash. Like I said, Ironically my medical patches irritate my skin after just three days and those are supposed to be medical adhesive.
    I wouldn't recommend it for expensive forms, but forms like the Amazing Adhesive Bra, available at Walmart, which can be reattached up to 50 times, and are inexpensive, would be ideal.
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    I found what works well is to clean the forms with varsol just rubbing with your fingers will remove the glue. I'm using Elmer's spray adhesive (it is cheaper than the others where I live). Spray it on making a couple light coats over the forms. It dries quickly and stays tacky like tape. To reduce the chance of chemical burn or leaching through the skin, I let the forms dry for about 1/2 hour or more so the solvents evaporate. You can actually let them dry for days and reuse them by washing them with soap and water and they remain tacky. You can use them several times between recoating them. To remove them, just slowly peel off. Be very careful, they don't stick on so hard that they are difficult to remove, but take no chance in pulling off any skin, the skin on this part of your body is easy to damage and the result will be redness for a few days and a scar, probably in a circle where the edge for forms were...ouch. Also, I do this part time, not every day so you have to balance the risks and cost. The other thing I do is spray the form through a template like a large screen so that any perspiration has channels to escape between the areas that have glue on them.

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    Forms tend to be fragile - so getting any glue off them that's strong enough to hold them to your chest is likely, sooner or later, to cause damage to the exterior PVC?

    Using mineral oil-based solvents to clean off residues will attack most plastics, certainly those used in form outers?
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    I use the Breastform store size 10's and I dont go "braless" but I do use the "Stick it" that is offered. I have noticed that the forms will slide when it is hot and the skin is perspiring. The BFS suggested to me that I shouldn't go braless with this product, and I dont.

    The connection that is made by using this adhesive is such that I have two thoughts about it. First is nice to get the full form completely on the skin without any gaps that offer rather odd sensations on occasion, on the other hand the adhesive pulls at the skin constantly and it is very appearant to me that there are less that beautiful feelings created by this adhesive.

    Does the Hollister sting less? I've never tried it. I dont think I will ever get into the Scotch 77 too industrial for me. The only time I ever get a free flowing and "natural" feeling is without the adhesive. (and of course the bra)
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    i have never had any luck with glue..so glue is a no go for me...i use amoena bras and just place those babies in the bra and away i go....after talking with my favorite SA last week i was handed the best most lightest forms i have ever seen...price $2500 a piece..SA advised the lighter form will hold up to the glue...i polietly declined...so to each their own..

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    Quote Originally Posted by celeste26 View Post
    Does the Hollister sting less? I've never tried it. I dont think I will ever get into the Scotch 77 too industrial for me. The only time I ever get a free flowing and "natural" feeling is without the adhesive. (and of course the bra)
    I've never gotten any negative reaction or burn from Hollisters. U let it dry before puting your forms on. Pulling them off is another matter! U must do it slowly. Then, be careful what u use to remove the glue, so it doesn't burn or sting! I have sensative skin!
    It's so easy to get caught up in your dressing. And, so difficult to explain your "compulsion" to those who don't.

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    Tami,

    I have been getting ready to try glue on my 4000's for some time now, and had already gotten Hollister and Super 77 to experiment with.

    I was looking for GooGone and discovered they make several different kinds.

    Which kind of GooGone do you use?

    Thanks

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    A very safe glue remover

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    ral years ago I found a wonderful and safe adhesive remover. It is called LIFT-OFF. It comes in a blue spray can or in a spritz bottle. There are 5 LIFT-OFF products and they all are specialized in what they remove. They are water based and non toxic and safely remove most any adhesive.

    In addition, please be aware that all industrial adhesives (3M77 for example) contain solvents that break down surface tension of the items to be glued. These solvents are designed to evaporate but are toxic when in close proximity to open wounds, eyes, mucous membranes etc. and sensitive skin.

    Also for those wishing to fly en femme, if you use adhesives of the industrial variety, sniffer machines and dogs will alert to the flammable solvents even thouh you cant smell them anymore.

    This is the problem with silicone pumpers. They use industrial silicone with several highly dangerous solvents and just hear the word SILICONE and think all silicone is the same.

    For safety sake, you should use only medically approved adhesives.

    So try the lift off and be careful about the sticky stuff you use.

    just my 2 cents worth (after many years experience with adhesives)

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    That is a great post, Tami, but whew, that sure is a lot of work! I do like the braless look and feel on special occasions or for certain outfits, but most of the time I just wear a bra. It's so much easier. And, if you like the braless look without the hassle, use a sheer bra. That said, I do agree that having the breastforms attached feels wonderful -- great for clubbing in a tight top.

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    Trying the 77

    I picked up a can of the 3M super 77 this morning and try it out when I got home this evening. Like a silly person, I didn't try it out on a small area first but proceeded to spay my forms and attached them to my chest. They didn't really attached very strongly and it looked like I was starting to get an allergic reaction so I just peeled them off oh so slowly. Sure enough my chest was red so it is a good thing I took them off. I wanted so badly to have my forms glued on tonight so I proceeded to attached them with Perma-Type surgical cement which i nomally use. As I sit here typing this they are firmly attachd to my chest inside my bra. I love the feel of forms attached and will have a fun night as they bounce around under my nightgown. Just wanted folks to know you need to be careful with any adhesive.

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    Thanks Tami!!

    I have been searching for years on the right adhesive to apply my forms with and after reading your post yesterday went right out searching for the 3m 77 and oh my god this stuff is wonderful!! I envey you being able to dress for work everyday and doing the many things you do I always love to stop and read all your posts you are my true inspiration. By the way you can get all of the aboved metioned stuff right at home depot in the paint section, just ask that's all I did. This day is truly the highlight of my crossdressing years will let you know how my progress goes but once again thank you for such a wonderful post!!

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    Where in the UK?

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    I had to search a bit and I couldn't find either Goo Gone or 3M77 in any "normal" type store. I had to buy online.

    I got the 3M glue from East Coast Fiberglass Supplies http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.u...-c-49_253.html


    Then I got the Goo Gone from Axminster http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-M...one-376969.htm

    Bit annoying to pay the same for postage as for the products in both cases but hopefully I won't use too much of the stuff

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    Thanks Marina! I appreciate the effort you took.
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    Thanks so much for the info. I have been looking foor this everywhere. Your a godsend
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