Has anyone ever visited a Dominatrix for a forced transformation or some form of feminization?
I enjoy dressing up by myself....however recently I have been thinking that it may be an interesting experience to visit a Dominatrix for a forced dressing session.
If anyone has been to visit such a service I would be interested to hear what I may expect....as well as any recomendations of who may be a safe Domme to visit.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Marissa
I have some friends on MySpace that are Dom and Submissive crossdressers and transgendered people. Some do it as a job while others choose it as a lifestyle with one partner (at a time). One friend wears a collar with his Dom's name on it as his/her owner.
Many doms will describe what they like and if that appeals to you, you can ask them questions before committing to anything. Everyone has different preferences. It is best to make a list of things you like and don't like. This list may change as you experiment.
My wife wears the pants in this family, but I don't consider her a Dom and I am not a Sub or a slave. I never tried this personally, though I do know people who have. It has been years since I have been person-to-person with any. We often communicate online.
Forced feminization can be done by anyone, not just doms. It could be a few trusted GG friends or CD friends. You still get to dress up and be seen. And you can play adult games if you choose to do so. Start slow to find your (and their) comfort level.
I have never been forced to dress. I always wanted to dress. But I have friends who began crossdressing since they were forced to dress by female relatives or friends. It excites them.
Do you have any friends that know about your crossdressing? If they are supportive, they may enjoy dressing you. My wife admitted that she and her sister used to do things to their teenage male babysitter. He had long hair and they would do his hair as he watched cartoons. He didn't care as they put barrettes in his hair or braided it. Interesting.
this could be an interesting thread . i have never and will never experience this unusual type of behavior i just don't understand it any of it !
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MJ, some people like to be "on top" all of the time. Some like to be "on the bottom". Some like to switch (from top to bottom). In fact, a person who can be a dom or a sub is called a switch. I have a friend who does that.
Some people like to be controlled while others like to be controlling. If my wife wore leather and I wore a sissy outfit, people would think she was my dom and I was her sub or slave. She can be bossy and controlling in a responsible adult (mom) way while I can be childish. I let her be in charge. But we never did things like people imagine for the dom/sub sex.
Different strokes for different folks.
I have been to several dominatrixes over the years. At first, I just tried out the scene, playing a sub male but later I would crossdress so that I could get into the role of being the bad school girl or maid who needs to be punished. It was never cheap and sometimes the experience was better than others, but it was always a blast. The thrill of being made to undress or be tied up and gagged by a strong female, was to me, heaven. It was humiliating and a rush at the same time. Good luck if you try it.
Jeannie (a.k.a. Black Leotards)
I'm married to mine.
Welcome to my playground. I cant go into too much detail on this thread but I've been active in SM and DS for 20 years publicly, and since age 6 non-publicly. I've organized munches andfetish nights and seen more latex and leather in a month than most will in a lifetime. There is a ton to learn, explore and experience, and the draw of a good Domme is undeniable I wasnt always Dom either I was in a strictly submissive role for 13 of those years) .
Some tips that dont break the forum rules that I can give you:
As someone already mentioned, all Dominatrix's arent equal. They will have different skillsets and on the professional side you'll find everything from the escort who carrys a cheap flogger and pair of cuffs to Dom/Dommes who have decades of experience and full facilities. So first rule of thumb....believe it or not...is ask for references. And make sure what you have in mind is compatible with what they do, some will have interests of their own.For your safety you want to avoid escort services probably.There are lists on the web where people discuss what is available from whom by geographic area, you can google them.You might also look into a munch group...many SM'ers hold them once a month or so in different areas and you might find someone who will be more than willing to help with forced feminization without paying several hundred dollars, but because they enjoy it.
Depending where you are, I might know someone, and really that's the kind of referral you are looking for, someone who has experienced it and can point you to the right people.
I cant stress this enough, READ and LEARN. Too many subs really have no clue what they are in for and try and do it an end up hurting themselves, and in the process ruining it for themselves in the process, in some cases forever.
NEVER EVER let anyone tie you up or do anything else to you unless you ave established a negotiation with them and you have knoledge of what might transpire during the session. Most Domme's of any worth are going to ask you first what experience you have, and get a list of your interests and wants. Remember it's too late to object when your spreadeagle and gagged and the Domme pulls out the knife for knifeplay or singletail to use on you. If you get hurt and didnt negotiating beforehand you more than likely will get hurt. Because if someone is playing with you with no negotiation, frankly you can expect anything except that they will play safely ( because they have already proven safety isnt top on their minds...the dollar at the end is)
READ READ READ and understand. If you think learning makeup techniques is tough, try understanding the ins and out of electrical play, of fire play, or even bondage ( yes people really do die or lose bodiy f\unction from bondage, and if you dont believe me try an overnight in a straitjacket and tell me your shoulders dont hurt for up to 10 hours afterward. )
Please Please Please play safe.
Dear Marissa
I suppose the answer is yes: for the last 40 years I have (except the 10 years of marriage and the last 4 years as a happy sub to my beautiful Mistress) visited various Dominatrix specialising in ‘forced feminisation’, not that I needed much forcing of course.
I take it that you are also basically submissive, if not the Domme might not be the right answer?
There are, of course, lots of ‘dressing services’ (in the UK at least) where ladies will dress you, do your make-up etc and then relax with you, but I presume you are, like me, a sub at heart?
I was extremely lucky in that my first visit to a Pro Domme turned into a wonderful relationship, always ‘professional’ but we became good friends.
She would help me dress, do my makeup, talk about the sort of clothes ‘gwen’ should wear etc and then tie me up and beat sh*t out of me - heaven.
gwendoline
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I don't want to go hiring anybody or anything like that but you've definately caught my interest and my curiosity. I havn't even been to a fetish fair yet
So funny !Originally Posted by Stevie C
I'm married to mine.
RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you see a pattern here? ~giggles~
Seriously, S&M is NOT something you just "jump" into with both feet like that, you must do the research and know what you are getting yourself into. I myself have been involved in the lifestyle for the last 25 years myself in many areas as I have lived all over the world in that time. Do not just set an appointment and go and play without first discussing/negotiating with the Domme. Make sure you are safe not just in your play, but with others as well. Set yourself up with "safe calls" if you are unsure (a safe call is a way for you to make sure that others know where you are and if you are okay. If you don't call at a designated time, they can take appropriate actions. If you use a certain word on the call, they can take action if necessary).
I must disagree with kinkedamanda and the statement "Remember it's too late to object when your spreadeagle and gagged and the Domme pulls out the knife for knifeplay or singletail to use on you." Simply because any Domme worth her salt will have set up a safeword with you. IF there is no mention of a safeword.... GET OUT NOW.
Just be safe and be careful hon.
Kandis
Someone once told me "Put on Your big girl panties and deal with it". If they only knew, I WAS ALREADY WEARING THEM.
I wear the bras and panties so my wife doesn't have to.
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interesting thread but i just don't get it . each to there own i guess .
some outfits are nice but ...well we won't go there
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My wife and I talked about this morning while waiting for the bus. Our advise is -- don't go there. Realising that you want to play and playing is fun it just seems to us that it worth waiting and finding someone and being in a committed relationship. Talk about real fun! Once there, its a whole new level because your partner WANTS to have fun with you and is doing it for reasons that are more intimately connected.
Past experience on yours truly's part back in some wilder more desperate days is that I came away from such experience feeling far less than fulfilled and, well, somehow cheap and dirty.
Just our two pennies
Huggles
Toni-Lynn
Anther question you really have to ask yourself is "How much can you actually be "forced" to do?"
Even under hypnosis, the human mind will not allow you to do something subcounciously that you would not do in a concious state of mind. If it is something you really want to do, there would be no inhibitions and therefore no real "forcing" of the issue.
Having tried to set up/play in a scene where I was being "forced" to wear women's clothing, I realized there is not much force needed as it is something I want to wear in the first place.
What you might look for is a transformation salon in your area and spend your money there having them give you a total makeover and maybe a photo shoot.
Kandis
Someone once told me "Put on Your big girl panties and deal with it". If they only knew, I WAS ALREADY WEARING THEM.
I wear the bras and panties so my wife doesn't have to.
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Yes there is a whole sub culture of forced fem CDers. It's really close to the "plain" bondage, S&M and other stuff. At one time my two lesbian friends and I actually discussed making an adult site about forced fem, with me being the sub and one of them the dom, weeeee!!
But they backed out at the last minute, darn it! I have never done it, but I push some paysites about it. I'd love to try it once with one of my lesbian friends, but I guess that's just a wish! As others have said, be very careful. It may seem fun, but once your tied up you may suddenly think "hey, I don't even know this person, what the hell am I doing"!
Don't put lipstick on dry lips unless you want it to stay on for 3 days!
You have posted the same thing twice...???
Perhaps it is because you are curious but don't want to come out and say it?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with S&M between consenting sane adults. To be curious of new things is very natural. You sould try something before you knock it.
If I ever get real rich, I hope I'm not real mean to poor people, like I am now.
But how do you know the Dom can be trusted to honor the negotiated terms???
How do you use a safeword if you're gagged and can't speak???I must disagree with kinkedamanda and the statement "Remember it's too late to object when your spreadeagle and gagged ..." Simply because any Domme worth her salt will have set up a safeword with you. IF there is no mention of a safeword.... GET OUT NOW.
While a gag does inhibit your ability to hold a conversation, you still have the ability to say the safeword (although not as clearly as without the gag). In this instance, there are visual signals you can give (lifting your elbow or raising a finger or some other movement that you have prearranged with the Domme as your "safe signal" in lieu of a safeword when a gag is being used).
This is all part of the negotiation stage, and if the Domme says "You don't need a safeword or safe signal", get you butt out of there quickly because that person does NOT have your safety in mind.
Kandis
Someone once told me "Put on Your big girl panties and deal with it". If they only knew, I WAS ALREADY WEARING THEM.
I wear the bras and panties so my wife doesn't have to.
WARNING:Any institutions or individuals using this site or any of its associated sites for studies , projects or any other reasons You DO NOT have permission to use any of my profile or pictures in any form or forum both current and future. If you have or do, it will be considered a violation of my privacy and will be subject to legal ramifications.
Is it because you want to feel total acceptance for your CDing? Or are you really submissive? For me, the attraction would be that since she's making me be a girl, I am free to be as girly as I want with no guilt or shame. And no, I've never been to one and don't plan on it.
My late wife was a Dom for a while. She whipped guys for money. She did NOT have sex with them. They were usually married businessmen. We had a "dungeon" in the basement. One guy was tied to a cross and fainted! We had to dial 911 for his safety. He was overexcited!
She had a secretary named Pat who scheduled appointments for clients. My current wife was pregnant and at home overseeing a home addition when a man in a uniform arrived in a truck. She thought it was one of the workers and opened the door. He stared at her and asked to go in the dungeon. This is one of those secrets I kept from her that she discovered.
When I came home from work, she asked me who Pat was. I said I didn't know anyone named Pat. She said, "You know. The lady that makes the appointments for the guys who want to play in the dungeon.". Imagine your pregnant wife discover that while you are away. She was worried about answering the phone or the door for a while. (She was innocent until she met me.)
Anyway, it is great when you can get recommendations. We had friends in New York. They bought a lot of our cages, the cross, whips and other gear. Maybe someone will let you watch others at play! By the way, you can be forced to dress without being into S and M. It doesn't have to be violent. One of my friends likes to be tied and tickled after being forced to dress like a girl.
This is very interesting to me as yes I have visited Doms. For dressing in the past, Let me explain, I did in my early teens raid the laundry basket of my aunt and dress, never my mothers though, (Froid would have a theory on this) I really got in to dressing with my fascination and love of CP. (spanking) A lot of Doms. Can be scary with dungeons and the like, so by dressing as a maid or school girl it made the sessions more “domestic” and light hearted, So I sort out Ladies who offered a dressing service with domination thrown in, I met some grate ladies, As the years went on I found that I just liked to dress and a spanking was not the reason. So now I dress most of the time. I now have a partner (female) who understands and love’s “casual Katie” but can Dom. and for fill my “other needs” I now run a dressing service with role play if required spanking ect. For men who have that need, I hope that the “girls” on this site understand that need to cross dress comes in many forms and will not be to judgemental on the subject, Katie,
Katie, I agree with you. Some people experiment to learn what they like or don't like. They don't even know why they have fantasies or the desire to try some things, but they sometimes decide to act on those feelings.
Spanking can be the most of some pleasure with pain for some people while others can enjoy more or less. My son enjoys being spanked by my wife and begs for it. She doesn't indulge him much, but he will try to find ways to get her to spank him! He is really weird.
My late wife did things to other people that I was never interested in trying. We don't have to understand why people like what they like. I don't judge people based on what they do privately. After all, I am a crossdresser. Some people think that is weird.
Well said Donna and thank you, I knew an old soldier who used to say "We all go to the devil in owne way" to me nothing is weird, I may not like it, but we must all try and understand that everyone has their own desterny in life and if they fullfill there "fantasey" or live their life as they want to with out hurting anyone thats great, it's fine by me. Katie.
This one is easy too. Most gags arent really all that effective( well many arent not all) so gagspeak is VERY possible most times. Aside from safe words...safe signals are also used. These sometimes involve a bell, ball or set of keys held in the hand. If they drop...it's the equivelent of a red signal ( in other words i want this scene to stop now). People use all kinds of things as safe signals.Of course it is possible you might have a scene where it simply isnt possible for the sub to communicate at all much during for example during certain forms of mummification. Such scenes are not for novices.
EDIT: I have no idea why my first comment looks like part of the original posters comments.
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there different the first is i don't get it as in understand the conceptYou have posted the same thing twice...???
Perhaps it is because you are curious but don't want to come out and say it?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with S&M between consenting sane adults. To be curious of new things is very natural. You sould try something before you knock it.
second was i love some of the outfits there is this cute black and pink outfit i like but ... it's like bike outfits are cool also but whats the point when i don't own a bike !!!
can't justify spending the money when i can't get use out of it .
i am not knocking it .. just don't get it i much prefer dinner slow dancing romance strawberry's chocolate and frank Sinatra in the background . hell of a lot better than having the crap beat out of you ..
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