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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan70 View Post
    YES Alexandria, I've felt exactly that way for a long time now. I have never acted on it but am at the point where I think I would and label it bi-curious or sexual experimentation instead of being gay which I'm not.
    I've been married 37 year and have always been faithfully but if the opportunity were there at this gay bar we CD's hang out at I'd probably do it,maybe even intitiate the move myself but worry about the guilt I would feel the next day,,, .

    The urge gets stronger every year that usally when i sleep dressed in lingerie, and I must take care of needs.. Anyone else's turn to be so bold and 'fess up? Hummmmm?

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    Sorry to take this off topic a bit, but I really get tired of people saying that they are not gay. WHO GIVES A RAT"S Azz?!?!?!?!?! When people write that, they are saying it more for themselves than for the reader. Personally, I couldn't care less. We are what we are; whatever that is...

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    when I was youger in my 20"s I dated men while dressed, then after I was married I did not, I was always faithful and did not even dress very much, being recently divorced ,I am now free to explore my femmine side to the fullest, I have spent several days dressed and have dated a few men, I always present as a women and do for man what a women would do, It makes me feel completly femmine and I do enjoy being submisive to my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie B View Post
    Mmmm, I often think that these three labels (hetero, homo, bi) are really inadequate to describe all the options.

    Imagine a married man of 50. He's probably made love to his wife and other women about -- what? -- 3,000 times in his life? (Let's be modest!) Suppose in all that time he's made love to another man three times.

    Now according to some bigots, he's irredeemably homosexual. Other people, more reasonably, would call him bisexual.

    But mathematically, his behaviour is 99.9% heterosexual. Many gays wouldn't even think he'd come over the threshold! And yet he may well be beating himself up with anguish over his own nature.

    Perhaps we should stop being so hard on ourselves.

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    To actually go out and cheat on your wife would be very wrong, don't do that to her please.
    Not only that but chances are, even as an adult, safe sex wouldn't be totally practiced, you can still catch alot of things thru oral sex, would it be fair to transfer that to your SO?

    Since your married, I would IMHO just tell you to have at it w/ the guys in the chats if you want and enjoy your wildest fantasies, cyber sex can be very hot (so I'm told,lol) Actually my SO did find out years ago that I was chatting w/ some GG's anonymously and had a fit, better that though than doing the real deal, there is a HUGE difference, hey I'm not perfect either.

    At least that way your not exposed to any STD's and personally, and I'm sure there will be disagreement on this, I don't see anonymous cyber sex as really cheating if thats as far as it goes. At least online, you can act out some of your fantasies, stay safe and hopefully she won't find out, that's far better than the alterative which carries way to many negatives your not seeing.

    Its been said by many that the fantasy is actually better than the reality of acting it out most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadia-Maria View Post
    ....much less than 1 person out of 1000 would ever cheat.....
    ..... Maybe I live in another world (or just in another country ...).

    I wish I could find a world like that!!!

    Cheating is rampant where i'm at. So much so that when I mentioned to my friends about my wife cheating(I was very mentally unstable and needed people to talk to) I found that it was harder to find someone that WASN'T cheating on their spouse.

    It's gotten to the point that when I hear about a girl getting pregnant I have to ask "Is it her husband's?" The response is usually a "No".


    Anyways, OMO it's a fantasy. Everyone has fantasies. But to act upon it would cement it as *WRONG*.

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    I think Annemarie makes a very valid point when she says that you wouldn't neccessarily get treated like a woman.
    A regular guy who is attracted to CDs isn't usually and I state usually, the kind of guy who would treat you like a lady. It would probably be more a case of acting out a fantasy with one thing in mind. Not all men are gentlemen, but then maybe your fantasy isn't about being with a gentleman.
    And you did actually say in your post Alexandria that you knew it was wrong and then in the last sentence asked was it wrong, a contradiction if ever there was one. I think you already know the answer to that question honey, but that is what Tamara and a few others were referring to.
    If your wondering why perhaps the hostility just take note, there have been many GGs on here who have supported their CD 100% only to find he has cheated on her with another man even though he has admitted to being very happily married. The excuses range from being bi curious and it just got the better of me, to well when I'm dressed I am a different person so its not really cheating. Its far more common than you might think so I am afraid as confused as you might be, and as entitled to your view as you should be, so are others. Tamara and Sandra have been privvy to many a GG pouring her heart out on here because she has been betrayed, you honestly dont know the half.
    And just to finish, alot of these guys have risked losing everything for a fantasy that came no where near to being as exciting as they thought it would be.
    Take care and like Holly has said concentrate on your relationship with your wife. That could be even more exciting.

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    It's A Complex Question And Issue...

    I really appreciate Alexandria's honesty about here feelings and her willingness to bring up an issue that obviously affects a lot of us. I am glad that the responses showed a caring and respect that allows for us to be open, honest and express our femme side. I like that, and that's one of the reasons I have been attracted to this particular site. Alexendria, you shouldn't feel bad for these feelings. I, too, have longed to be the object of desire for a long time - even long before the thought of cding entered my mind. As I've explored my femme side, I have wondered what it would be like to be with a man, to please him and to have him love me, hold me, etc. I think it's only natural for "the woman" in each of us to long for that. I have been married for over 25 years and know that this would kill my marriage and be extremely hurtful. What I've chosen to do instead of acting on the urges to be with a man is to invest more time in the relationship I already have, to show more affection, to be there emotionally for her and to gain the pleasure of intimacy (no matter what level) from the relationship I already have. A curse of human nature is to want what we don't have and to NOT want what wed DO have - until it, too, is gone. I don't want to fall into that trap! So, I take those "freelings" and try to translate them into positive action that will build up my SO and our relationship. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT a saint or a Ms. Goody-Two Shoes! I dont' feel as pretty as the other ladies on this site and have major self perception issues. Still, I try to be the best that I can be. Okay, I'm off the soap box. Sorry. Anyway, Alexandria, don't feel bad, k? It's great that you recongize your feelings and can articulate them. That way, you can choose what is best for you and your relationship. Have a great day all!
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    I have tried it

    I have always considered myself heterosexual but I too have had the fantasy of being treated as a lady and using my female 'power' to please a man. I am not attracted to men but when in full fem mode I am turned on by the idea of turning on and pleasing a man.
    I am single by the way.
    Last week I placed an ad on Craigslist in causual encounters. I waded through lots of creepy replies and chose someone who agreed to my terms: "I am in charge, I stay clothed, no kissing, you will get a hand." It was really fun to be able to be treated like a woman and to turn someone on and bring him to orgasm with my hand.
    Will I do it again...? who knows? It did make me feel powerfully feminine. I had no attraction to him but it was fun!
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    It always amazes when ppl don't answe the question

    I've done it. Many times.

    Like you I never think about it when in boy mode. In fact gay porn makes me mildly quesy.

    Girl mode is another thing all togeather.

    I think it has to do with a very specific form of transgenderism. I am of the opinion that there are many forms of TG. From the "guy in a skirt" to the post op "TS". I think we are something in between.

    Honestly I don't think that the "guy in a skirt" can ever understand those of us that are "girls" when dressed.

    And; my two cents on cheating. Yep it is. But; I agree with another poster about monogamy.

    I am, by profession, an Interogator/Interviewer. I used to do private contract work as an investagator. The thing that amazed me was the amount of cheating going on. AND that more women than men were doing the cheating. That is to say that more married women were cheating than married men. Women also tended to be much more likely to be "the passive agressor" ( that is letting the men know they were available rather than "asking them out")

    I grew up in the culture that "Knew" men were "always dogs" and women "always virtuous". And; while there are some spectacular "dogs" out there, most men that I investagated were quite loyal. In fact, in not a few cases it was the woman client that was the Cheater.

    And; remember something they tell us in "interviewing" school. Usually when someone reveals a pet peeve, such as cheating, lieing, and stealing; it almost always reveals a character fault within themselves.

    So watch very closely those who run to the " I would never do it" bandwagon when asked a question like this.

    As a professional, those are always the first people we look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan70 View Post
    YES Alexandria, I've felt exactly that way for a long time now. I have never acted on it but am at the point where I think I would and label it bi-curious or sexual experimentation instead of being gay which I'm not.
    I've been married 37 year and have always been faithfully but if the opportunity were there at this gay bar we CD's hang out at I'd probably do it,maybe even intitiate the move myself but worry about the guilt I would feel the next day,,, .

    The urge gets stronger every year that usally when i sleep dressed in lingerie, and I must take care of needs.. Anyone else's turn to be so bold and 'fess up? Hummmmm?

    Megan
    I'm with you. Each day the urge gets stronger and stronger - to the point where I know it's just a matter of time. Consider me "fessed up" on this one!!!!!!!!

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    OK then a politically correct answer you are married and it is cheating plan and simple.

    so you can dream about it all you want but don't act on it..

    how many t-girls have done this and end up dead..
    i am single and don't have much of a life but it's better than none case in point i have " men " send me comments on my face book and i am hurt and put off by there sick comments.. i have more class than that ..
    your lucky to have a wife be thankful for that .please don't act on that
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    Outstanding posts !

    Bev, Emily, and others.Thanks for sharing! As a single cd with no SO, I have no desire for a man to want me, but, when all dressed up, there are feelings o wanting to attract men. i have been on the alternative dating sites, and have had many winks, messages, and came very close, to going out, to meet, but, always decided at the last minute, to drop it, especially when i found they were married! I have a no marrieds policy, for men, or ladies. If married to a wife, its ok to have feelings, like that, but not act on them. Lots of wisdom on here.Very honest, good posts, by cders, and Bevgg.!

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    The thought has crossed my mind. When I went to burning man recently, I felt open to experimenting with that experience. My wife was open to that as well. It didn't happen. Now it seems more remote. I like to masturbate as a woman, and do think it would be fun to be with a male sexual partner who was authentically caring and respectful.
    The whole cheating element is possible to address by being open with your wife about your fantasies and hearing what her response is. She might not be threatened... especially if your connection to her is really strong and she feels very safe and loved.
    Good luck.
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    i'll fess up

    I wonder if the ones that say they have not thought about or done it, what their level of dressing is. As a full woman, meaning not only lingerie and cloths and shoes but makeup, jewlery and pocketbooks I have done and still do on occasion. When totally dressed, I am a woman and feel the need to do all things womanly. Not gay in the least, I work with literaly 100's of men in the day and don't feel anything. I am married to a very understandiing woman for the last 25 years and she thought it would be best if I acted on it again and she was near me for my first time and kinda got a kick out of it. I will never be gay or lose my wife for anything she is my best and not having her would be tragic but me having a little girl sex does not hurt if both parties are okay. By the way the last time I was seduced, dined and sexed and he was a total gentelman about it. I would say if you dress all the way and you have an opportunity and there is no outside issues, go for it at least once and see if its as fun as it looks. I know I like it a lot and can't wait to try again!

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    I have been with several men while in femme and enjoyed it very much. I enjoy being treated like a lady. I am not attracted to men while I am in male mode though.

    It is also fun to dress and be with my wife though... we play lesbians.

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    Each day I think about being with a man more and more.
    It is something I would never consider dressed as a guy.
    But i would love to feel what it's like to go out with a guy
    as woman.the urge is getting worse

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    I also like to imagine that I'm with a gentleman while I am in drab. I think it makes perfect sense - this is what makes one's transformation into a woman "complete". I'd like to experience it one day.

    I think it is wrong at this point to wonder if one's gay - the way I see it gays are simply men attracted to men who like to be men.

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    I think probably every crossdresser has thought about, or fantasized about, being with a man for sexual purposes. After all, we dress to look like a female so why not be one? If you are single, there may not be a problem.

    But if you are married, and truly love your wife, as Jennifer Devine stated so eloquently, you are CHEATING!!! What would you think if your wife went on a date with another woman? If you are any kind of man, you would be horrified and upset! So consider how she would feel knowing you dressed up and went out with a man! She married a man, not a female in a suit!

    I guess I was lucky. I had a very understanding and supportive wife until she passed away. When I told her my fantasy about being with a man, she told me that she could help. So I became a girl for her! Problem solved, and no cheating!! I would recommend some hard thinking about what it is you wish to accomplish with being a CD, keeping in mind that your wife is a very big part of your life! At least she should be if you do truly love her!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandria9919 View Post
    I am not gay but I suppose I am bisexual to some extent. When I am in my male mode I do not have any interest in being with a guy. But when I am dressed I have a strong desire to be with a man, to be treated like a lady. I have been talking to guys over the internet but have not acted on this desires.
    I am married and I really do love my wife. But when I am dressed up I want to be the lady that I am and want to have sex with a man. I know that would be cheating but it just so overwelms me. Anyone else have this problem? Would it be wrong? I dont know really I just get really confused over this issue. Any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michellebej View Post
    ....The thing that amazed me was the amount of cheating going on. AND that more women than men were doing the cheating. That is to say that more married women were cheating than married men. Women also tended to be much more likely to be "the passive agressor" ( that is letting the men know they were available rather than "asking them out")

    I grew up in the culture that "Knew" men were "always dogs" and women "always virtuous". And; while there are some spectacular "dogs" out there, most men that I investagated were quite loyal. In fact, in not a few cases it was the woman client that was the Cheater.

    And; remember something they tell us in "interviewing" school. Usually when someone reveals a pet peeve, such as cheating, lieing, and stealing; it almost always reveals a character fault within themselves.

    So watch very closely those who run to the " I would never do it" bandwagon when asked a question like this.

    As a professional, those are always the first people we look at.

    Michelle

    I know exactly what your talking about. It's also sobering and depressing to hear straight from girls (yes plural meaning more than one) and guys mouths about "marriage" and how "that don't matter".




    I hear this stuff almost everyday and I just have to shake my head in disbelief. But it's true and it's happening at an alarming rate. I can only seriously think of one couple that I know of that has (for all that I know, but give it time) remained faithful to eachother.

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    SAY THERE ALEXANDRIA ,
    I'VE gone to porn theaters and had men "come on " to me , it did feel good at the time , but I'VE also been smart to know just how far to take it.

    I did though enjoy the response I got just simply "LAP DANCING" the guys , it made me feel SOO SEXY ( I was dressed in a black bikini ) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DD's Girl View Post
    If you wouldnt do it in front of your wife,dont do it.

    We cant change what we feel but we can control our actions.
    Kayla has hit this one dead on. If you discuss this first with your wife, and/or she is open to the idea, fine. If not, then its wrong. That being said, I also agrre with many here that some things are best left a fantasy. I'm not sure how it may make you feel afterward, even if you are totally open with your spouse with the whole thing.

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    natural

    Dear its natural I am with a man and have a wonderful relationship with him and my gf. she knows and is very accepting. Being attracted to a man while dressed is natural for me so i just acted on it at the right time.
    but its all up to you dear and no one can tell you different. Only you know what you want
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally24 View Post
    We all have fantasies, and desires, and curiosity but if you're married than they have to remain just that. If I was younger and single I'm not sure where the curiosity would end and reality would begin. Being happily married for over 30 years I realize that something like adultery can fatally wound a relationship. If you feel that you must explore this than do it openly with your wife's knowledge. If she can't handle it at least she has a choice.

    No one has mentioned the medical end of things here. There are any number of STD's that are incurable at present. And of course AID's. In my book if you infected someone knowingly than you would be guilty of at least manslaughter (some states agree too). Keep it in you pants, keep in only in your mind, or get out of your present relationship first!
    Could not agree more. There is no excuse for irresponsibility and hurting others. If we have partners who are understanding we should be grateful and appreciative and in no circumstances place them at risk
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    I had no interest in men at all, up until about 27/28. It just seemed the more feminine I got through the years, the more curious I got.
    Strange enough, I have'nt had intimacy with a woman in 3 years. I've only had sex with men or a cuppla CD friends since then......I love it, but thats cause I'm single, and I'm free to do what I want without no fear or insecurity.
    But I'd never cheat......I've never beleived in cheating.
    Even though I consider myself bi though, and I've had these flings with men in recent years, I would still love a woman to truly accept me......but until that day comes I'm happy just being me.
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