Lorileah, I have always found that philosophy ("better to ask forgiveness than permission") an indication of complete to-hell-with-everyone-else narcissism at best, and a psychopath at worst. A person who goes by that attitude has put his or her own wants ahead of everyone else, most particularly people you claim to love. If you had the slightest care for the other person, you WOULD ask permission first, and if the answer is no you would honor that answer.