Bisexuality & Crossdressing

[Shananigans]

Hmm now here is a few questions if You are an MtF CD that likes women But you will date date other MtF Cd's doe that make you Bi ? If your a GG that dates women and CDs does that make you bi.

Well, going to the definition of bisexual...it just means that you are attracted to both men and women. CDing does not enter the mix. A common misconception when I look at porn is that pre-op TSs are a "bisexual fantasy." I have seen porn that had basically those titles. And, being intrigued, I clicked...and, it's a pre-op TS. Now, bisexuality means attracted to both men and women...a bisexual fantasy would not be someone with both genders wrapped up in one body. It doesn't do a whole lot for me because I am attracted to both men and women...not mixed genitalia. That is a different category and fetish all together that does not have anything to do with being bisexual. (That does not mean that I do not find TSs attractive, or that I would not date one. It just means that their mixed genitalia would not attraction factor for me personally. It would be pretty neutral. I'd be attracted to the fact that they are women. Vice versa for FTMs).

If you were a MTF CD that dates other MTF CDs, you might have a fetish...you might be acting out on gay fantasies, but staying "safe" in the heterosexual realm because the person is presenting as a woman. I don't really know. It's not for me to decide. But, I can tell you it's not really bisexuality unless you are attracted to that person when all the makeup and clothes come off. If you are a MTF CD that is attracted to other MTF CDs, but lose attraction once the makeup and clothes are off...I'd say it was a fetish. But, I'm not a sex therapist.

Same with a GGs that dates CDs. If you are just into the CDing as a kink and aren't really into GGs...I'd say it's a fetish. I think my SO is so f*cking sexy when dressed, and maybe it's a fetish. I don't really know. I do look at her dressed as a woman and I am still attracted when the clothes and makeup come off. I am not attracted to the fact that he is a "man in a dress." I see Cami as a woman. I see Ryan as a man. I am attracted to them both.

Therefore, I don't think I have a fetish towards my SO CDing. The fact that I see Cami as a woman and am attracted to her, may have something to do with bisexuality. The fact that I see Ryan as a man and am attracted to him also has something to do with my bisexuality. We are both pretty gender flexible and like to play around, so maybe we have other things on top of bisexuality. But, being bisexual in its simplest definition is attraction to both genders...not a gender all in one person...not mixed genders...not men in dresses...not women in pants. JUST an attraction to both genders.

Lorileah: I agree. Sexuality is so complex...CDing is so complex. Sometimes these conversation are never resolved. BTW, Shanan has been my nickname since I was like...3. I like it too

[Niya W]

Well for me I'd date a GG other TS, CDs but a man . He would have to look pretty fem in boy mode for me . But the idea of strong masculine guy turns me off.

[*Alexia]

I have always been attracted to both genders for the most part. But I have to say that my attraction towards men intensifies when I'm dressed. When I'm not dressed, and hanging out with my friends, I'm chasing women and not thinking twice really about the guys in the room.

I might have a split personality though...who knows?

[Shananigans]

Well for me I'd date a GG other TS, CDs but a man . He would have to look pretty fem in boy mode for me . But the idea of strong masculine guy turns me off.

Well, there are people who are "pansexual." This is probably more of what I am because I generally just say that I date people I am attracted to...it wouldn't matter if the person was TS, CD, GG, or GM. But, at the end of the day...I may not know you are TS or a CD. You would just look like an attractive man or woman to me. I wouldn't seek out to date someone who is TS or CD, because at the end of the day I would see you and treat you like the gender that you identify with...genitalia has little to do with it. Just like clothes have little to do with it. So, that's why I think bisexual fits me best even if I am open to people who may fall somewhere differently on the gender spectrum.

But, you know, you say a man would have to pretty feminine for you to be attracted to him. I think obviously you have preferences. It's kind of like the gay or lesbian thing...obviously, I am not attracted to ALL women and ALL men. I am attracted to very feminine women. I am also attracted to men that are kind of taller, leaner and athletic. I have preferences. But, at the same time, I would be open to getting to know and potentially dating someone that I was initially not very attracted to physically. There would obviously have to be SOME physical attraction there, or we would just be sexually incompatible. But, anyway...

[Mistybtm]

Same for me as well I am bi get the best of both worlds

[Niya W]

Well at the end of the day we are who we are. We like what we like. Labels are not really needed. Maybe the reason why so many of my trans friends are bi is cause once you through off when sett of shackles it's easier to through them all of. Or is it I'm just attracted to bi people.

[Helen Grandeis]

Human beings need to touch the souls of other human beings. Sex is one of the ways we can do that. Our life programming creates preconceived barriers to whom we are going to allow to touch us. I am glad that I am touched and allowed to touch and am able to experience that profound closeness - although various nonstandard things are going through my head during the process.
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Cherish your many diverse opportunities to experience this.
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Helen

[Debglam]

Well the the reason for being mad at DQ is they see DQ as some thing that gets mocked. They want to be taken seriously and DQ detract from that. Paraphrased from a gay man that hates DQ.

Soccer mom question: I take it DQ is not Dairy Queen? No dipped cones today????

[Niya W]

Spanks Mebbie. Dips her in ice cream.

[karynspanties]

I am bi. The only time I am ever with a man is when I am fully enfemme. Otherwise I have no desire for men.

[Julie in Virginia]

I am bi. The only time I am ever with a man is when I am fully enfemme. Otherwise I have no desire for men.

In guy mode, If i am honest, i am into both guys and girls. However, due possibly to society norms (or at least my parents expectations), I had many more experiences with women and only a few (awkward) experiences with guys.

In girl mode, however, I have little/no interest in women. Just totally into guys. Bonus if they are clean cut and athletic.

Now oddly enough, I am not sexually interested at all in other CDs. Ever. I "guess" this all makes me bi, but I totally hate labels. I'm just me.

[kelsey52]

Yes I am bi. I had the chance to be with guys in some type of girl mode and they just go nuts over it believe me the explosion is big. guys really do want to please.

[Julie8181]

I have to say I'm really glad that this topic was introduced. Terminology aside, I had always thought that I was an extremely rare case for the way my brain is configured sexuality-wise. I (we) may still be, but I really didn't think I would meet more than a couple of other people that were on the same page on the boards. What a relief!

[NoraTV]

I am sexual. Period. Whether its bi- metro- omni... doesn't matter to me.

[Ressie]

From the responses it looks like a lot of you have bisexual feelings when dressed. I seem to be in the same boat, but there have been only two same sex encounters in my life. However, there were other situations that could have let to actual encounters. My opinion is if one fantasizes having a same sex encounter enough, they will eventually take the next step to make it happen. "Bi-curious" seems to be a growing trend. Some will remain curious while others will take the next step - enfemme or not.

[StarrOfDelite]

In guy mode, If i am honest, i am into both guys and girls. However, due possibly to society norms (or at least my parents expectations), I had many more experiences with women and only a few (awkward) experiences with guys.

In girl mode, however, I have little/no interest in women. Just totally into guys. Bonus if they are clean cut and athletic.

Now oddly enough, I am not sexually interested at all in other CDs. Ever. I "guess" this all makes me bi, but I totally hate labels. I'm just me.

I tend to have the same tastes as you as far as being attracted to men, women and other CD's in the abstract sense. I am sure that my preferences are based more on psychological conditioning than anything else. In the final analysis I am wearing a masculine body wrapped around an ambivalent mind, so why should it make any difference what clothes either my partner or I are wearing when we begin the mating ritual. The object is to wind up naked, isn't it?

Although I've had minimal sexual intercourse with women for several years, in my own mind I believe that I can enjoy almost any type of physical contact with a compatible human being, from touching fingers to kissing to exploring the positions of the kama sutra, irrespective of his/her gender. So, I wonder why I'm influenced about choosing such a human being by reason of the clothes that we are wearing.

[missynicole]

i am bi also. when i dress i like men and other girls like us. no excuses i am bi.

[cinderellaman]

I am very bi curious. But, it would have to be with a certain type of man. I wouldn't want to be with an overly aggressive hairy man.

[flatlander_48]

Here we go again. Some members have already reported your post for its skewed views. But, it is your opinion such as it is and so your post stays.

Honestly, don't you get tired of making the same broad brush comments, and getting shot down by the membership here?

To the newbies ... not to worry, Sean is harmless. He comes in here every few weeks/months or so, spews the same rhetoric, gets shot down for applying his theories to *all* CDs, and then he goes away for a little while.

Could we work on increasing the interval?

[OKPink]

I am like that too Cindarella. I am not attracted to hairy guys (I am not hairy) and prefer gentle guys also. But then, I also lie women who are not hairy and aggressive.

[Lace-Is-Great]

I feel that my sexuality is evolving... At the times in my life when I've been in a long-term relationship with women, I've been so much into that one individual woman (emotionally and physically) that I rarely glanced or noticed anyone else (male or female) while the relationship lasted.

I crossdressed a few times with one of my long term girlfriends, but she reacted more lustfully to me in guy mode than in girl mode, so that made it less fun for me to be girly when I was with her, thus lessening the frequency for me dressing up while I was in that particular relationship.

For casual dating, it's been amazing to me how strongly and suddenly my tastes could change from dating one individual to another.

When I put on my silky panties, then it greater intensifies my desire to be with other CD girls or men.

I guess that the two terms which better describe my own sexuality over the years as a whole would be "Pansexual" and "Bisexual".

My most frequent attractions have been for women, but I also have a powerful attraction for feminine males, specifically M2F crossdressers / transgendered, and also to aggressive soft butch genetic women (if those soft butch GG's have a cute face that I like).

It's confusing at times when I step back away from it to compare / contrast the different "objects of my affection" & lust, but while I'm with someone I usually am very blissful and enjoying the moment thoroughly.
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xoxoxo
~ Danielle

[biguy]

I am bi sexual but it seem that I want a lot more body contact and kissing when I am dressed

[Eve II]

Damn - "Who got to be in charge and set up the rules anyway?" I'm in a strong relationship "Hetro", but
I wish Bi was the norm. Or better yet, I wish there was not a norm. I wish that if we had shared feelings
about or with someone that we could be with that person and everyone was happy for us.

[Veronica Electronica]

I guess I am bi-curious. On one hand, I often fantasize about having sex with men, yet I rarely if ever find men attractive. Rather, I am attracted to the idea of having sex with a man. I can go outside and find a girl attractive, but I don't notice men in the same way. On the other hand, I do tend to have an ideal man in mind whenever I fantasize, I just tend to focus on the body as opposed to what they look like. Sometimes I fantasize about being with a man as a woman, but since I don't know what it's like to be a woman, when I do fantasize about men, I picture myself either dressed as a woman (but still a man) or just as myself. What stops me from calling myself bisexual is that I don't know if I would ever find a man attractive in the same way I would find a woman to be attractive.

[Kitty Sue]

Hi there I am bi too.