Quote Originally Posted by Marlena Dahlstrom
Sorry, but that's hardly a scientific sampling. There are a number of folks in the "grey area" between the two.

There's folks here who would wear women's clothing 24/7 if they could, but who don't necesssarily see themselves as trapped in the wrong body. Some would love to be able to be out in the world as feminized men.

There's folks who actually live as women a good percentage of the time, but who don't what to physically be a woman, even if they may do some hormones and/or surgery -- they see themselves as a third sex. (I personally know a couple of these folks.)

There are people who transitioned even though they didn't particularly hate their male bodies -- in some cases seemingly because of the peer-pressure from other TSs (i.e. "real" TSs have GRS), in the case of another person I know, she says she did it for "aesthetic reasons." (She'd done everything else, and so she decided she might as well do that do. She'd never particularly hated what was between her legs, but since hormones had killed her libido, it was now just sort of irrelevant to her.)

Anyway, the picture ain't black and white.

definitly not scientific. More of an observation but i do stand by my conclusions. I see a broad difference. The degrees at which people are what they are obviously vary.....i do see it as black and white with a small degree of greyness.

the 3rd sex has always been an interesting point. It goes back to ancient times and alot of ancient cultures believed in it....even to the point where people that were thought to be the 3rd sex were usually in very powerful positions in their communities....ie Shamans in Indian tribes.

the other thing that always gets dais is that there is 2 spirits trapped in one body. Another possibility. one man/one female. two females. or 2 males. however it may be...it would explain alot if true.