Young girls out and about

[Stephanie Miller]

O.K., so I didn't want to highjack the earlier thread "Young crossdressers, where are you? " So I waited a little while before asking... ( nice thread by the way. Glad to see so many of you out there :) ).
Where do you go to get out? Not necessarily the "total out of the closet type" ... but the more held back ones?
No I'm not a deviant looking for a thrill, so get your minds out of the gutter! I happen to be the past president of our Phoenix chapther of Tri Ess and am looking for input as to why we really never see any young members. I have to think you all have the same problems with your girlfriends, S.O.'s etc that we old crotchety types have - and need some form of support as well. Or maybe you're not attached at the moment - but still need a nice place to be yourself and relax. I would like to give your input to our membership person so possibly we could make the needed changes/additions to facilitate all age groups. Thanks you all.

[Megan_Okana]

I havent been out, but my guess is the same reason as most others my age. I have friends all over the state, mostly condenced in the I5 coridor. Being young all my friends dont have major responcibilities so have the time to do spontanious things. I dont know how many times Ive gone to a random city and run into people i know. Theres a lot of fear of being reconised. And most of us are alone in this (most dont know anyone else who CDs) So theres that fear. Its all the same as you older girls, we just havent had as long to over come our fears

[Noxvictum]

I'm gonna be going to that kinda thing when I get back home... ONE MORE MONTH OF THE NAVY!!!

[MissConstrued]

Where do you go to get out? Not necessarily the "total out of the closet type" ... but the more held back ones?

I just go to the same places & hang out with the same friends I always do. Most of them know of other CD's, but thus far, I'm the only one in my social circle who's "out & about." I'll go to dinner & a show downtown if I have a date. But I don't do errands or shopping in girl mode... all that work (shaving, makeup, etc&etc) goes to one thing: party! Each their own, of course, but I don't get dressing all fancy to perform mundane tasks.




I have to think you all have the same problems with your girlfriends, S.O.'s etc that we old crotchety types have - and need some form of support as well.

Mmmmm, well, while I can only speak for myself, no. All the girls I've dated in the last year have seen me in drag beforehand. Nothing really serious in the way of relationships at this point, though... still hunting.

I really believe that people my age and younger are more likely to see us as eccentrics rather than pervs. And every so often I'll run across a gaggle of high-school kids whose outfits suggest to me that in another generation or two, no one will bat a proverbial eyelash.

[Stephanie Miller]

Then the feeling I'm getting is that the younger generation is more accepting of CD's and therefore you are able to get out with less strife than older CD's? Which then also tends to make me believe you don't "need the secure place to meet" and also don't see as much ridicule from your peers as we do because of the generational differences/education. Am I getting the right message here?

[JoAnne Wheeler]

Concerts, shows, the theator, restaurants, shopping - just the normal things


JoAnne Wheele

[deja true]

Then the feeling I'm getting is that the younger generation is more accepting of CD's and therefore you are able to get out with less strife than older CD's? Which then also tends to make me believe you don't "need the secure place to meet" and also don't see as much ridicule from your peers as we do because of the generational differences/education. Am I getting the right message here?

I think you're right, Steph...

...and also,the young 'uns have been able to make personal connections with other Trans and gender variant folks than us oldies ever were able to, so they are growing up with personal support groups (which most of us closet dwellers never had).

(Tri-Ess, the society for the second self! Many of the young ones don't have to worry about a hidden second self. They'e already well on the way to an integrated singular self that includes their male and female elements.)

That's another reason you don't see 'em much at organized meetings that are frequented by older closeted T people. They don't need 'em as much. (You also don't see 'em as frequently here either, for the same reason. They're busy leading their lives in the real world, rather than on-line like many of us.)

They're growing up freer than we could in the bad, old, more paranoid days. They're not already stuck in the middle of important social obligations like career and family.

For all these things, I'm very jealous of them and exceedingly happy for them, too. There's not one of us oldies that doesn't regret that, for the sake of our (regrettably) hidden second selves, we were born just a couple of decades too early.