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Gerbil
07-20-2004, 08:07 PM
I was once watching a talk show where crossdressers were among the guests. There was this older lady who was there in support of the crossdressers and she said something I think was rather profound. Something I had never put together but sort of always realized. She said that, "Cross dressers are more complete people because they are more in touch with themselves, they know their masculine and their feminine. Not like most of us who only really know one side to ourselves."

My question to the forum then is do most people agree with this statement, or do people have another oppinion on the subject?

Tristen Cox
07-20-2004, 08:20 PM
I would say that most crossdressers are more in touch with both sides as you say, although there is still a portion that "just dresses" but does not have a strong connection to their female self. I feel more complete
exercising the female half but I've have to wait and see if it makes a better person of me in the long run. Good thread.
love TC

softandsmooth
07-20-2004, 08:34 PM
I would answer that question by saying that I understand the masculine aspects of my presonality quite well. I don't have as deep an understanding of the feminine aspects.

When I am in uber-male mode, at work particularily, Type A personality triats crop up. When I am dressed, I am not wound nearly as tight, and am far more balanced.

I like being more moderate. I am convinced that the action of wearing feminine clothes, even just around the house and under my drabs, has made me a better person by smoothing off some rough edges.

Charlotte

Shy Charlotte
07-21-2004, 12:54 AM
I'd say that, at least as far as I'm concerned, I understand many aspects of my female side, and many aspects of my male side, but on the whole I don't understand everything about either side.

On the male side, I know how to fix a car (somewhat), shoot (somewhat), carpentry(kinda), and leave the toilet seat up (excellent).

On the female side I do makeup (somewhat), color coordination (somewhat), have mood swings (excellent).

I think that on the whole I'd be considered a jack of all trades, but a master of none. I'm not the aggresive alpha male when it comes to dating, and I'm still kind of harsh in the female mode. I do agree however that we have access to an emotional perspective that most people don't have. I feel for guys that have to do the dating, rather than just wait and pick whatever guy's in line. And it sucks to be the object of unwanted attention (as some, like Julie M. can attest to). In the past I would have said that my girlfriend was instigating it somehow with her womanly wiles, but now I think guys are just horny.

Never had a threesome with supermodel twins, and never had a period, but alot of the stuff in between I think I understand.

Miss Vicki
07-21-2004, 02:04 AM
I agree with the statement that people who crossdress become more in touch with their maculine and feminine side. However, I feel that I have not been extremely one way or the other. I enjoy being masculine when I have to and enjoy getting to know and chat with a more feminine side when the opportunity arises. Lately I do notice my self finding more ways of becoming more in tune with my feminine side. Maybe it has happened since joining this site. I have been paying more attention to advertisements on clothing and articles that involve women in general. And I am enjoying it.

HillaryArtemis
07-21-2004, 06:56 PM
I dearly love to crossdress and I have been doing it to some extent for twenty years. IT is only recently I have been going all out. Since that point, I have felt better about myself and felt and behaved better with and to others. I was so angry for so long that I could never really "pass" - but I could not do so before, becuase I would'nt let myself do so. I was scared - but I am to old and tired to hide it anymore. IN part, now there are people I don't care if they know or not. I was always physically fit as a man, but actually disdained any nice clothing - because I wanted to wear a SKIRT AND HEELS. Are we better people? I don't know - but I am a better person now. I always wanted to be able to switch back and forth - becuase gender is just a construct and I am an over reacher - when I looked in the mirror two nights ago I saw me as the most gorgeous woman I know - call me vain


Love HillaryArtemis

ChristineRenee
07-21-2004, 08:21 PM
I dearly love to crossdress and I have been doing it to some extent for twenty years. IT is only recently I have been going all out. Since that point, I have felt better about myself and felt and behaved better with and to others. I was so angry for so long that I could never really "pass" - but I could not do so before, becuase I would'nt let myself do so. I was scared - but I am to old and tired to hide it anymore. IN part, now there are people I don't care if they know or not. I was always physically fit as a man, but actually disdained any nice clothing - because I wanted to wear a SKIRT AND HEELS. Are we better people? I don't know - but I am a better person now. I always wanted to be able to switch back and forth - becuase gender is just a construct and I am an over reacher - when I looked in the mirror two nights ago I saw me as the most gorgeous woman I know - call me vain


Love HillaryArtemisI don't know that we are necessarily BETTER people Hillary...but I like to think of us now as special people rather than by the negative terms and attitudes society has labeled us with. I had a similar experience as you the first time I put on makeup and donned a wig. I looked in the mirror and no longer saw the external male I was but the pretty darn good looking female I might have been on the outside too. From that moment on there was no turning back and "Christine" was here to stay.


Peace & Love,

Christine58V8

ChristineRenee
07-21-2004, 08:31 PM
I was once watching a talk show where crossdressers were among the guests. There was this older lady who was there in support of the crossdressers and she said something I think was rather profound. Something I had never put together but sort of always realized. She said that, "Cross dressers are more complete people because they are more in touch with themselves, they know their masculine and their feminine. Not like most of us who only really know one side to ourselves."

My question to the forum then is do most people agree with this statement, or do people have another oppinion on the subject?Gerbil,
I do think crossdressers have a more enlightened view of male/female feelings and attitudes so from that perspective I would agree that we are more complete as people but not necessarily better than others. I feel that the Christine side of me totally balances out my personality, whereas in my male persona I think I generally lack many traits that would make me an otherwise complete person. So yes, I think crossdressing and being in touch with my very feminine side has been a big plus in my overall education as a human being.


Peace & Love,

Christine58V8

Missy
07-22-2004, 06:10 AM
The More I read and wondered about this, the more it becomes clear. As crossdressers we are more in tune with yourselfs. the roller coaster feeling come from the way the other poeple deal with themselves. they do not know how to handle their ownselfs. Boy do this, and wear this, not this and that girls do this, not this. after reading a lot of threads it like all the puzzle started coming together. hope this makes sence.

Jennifer_Ph
07-22-2004, 11:23 AM
My experience with cd's is that they are all great people. Very supportive. Very friendly. Very protective of each other. As far as being in touch with both sides, I cannot say. I do know that all my life I've been really good at being a MAN and also been very sensative with others. Even if someone doesn't know about Jennifer and I am talking to them, they are often suprised at the "sensative side" that I have and how cool they think that is. Jennifer was born because feminine attire intrigued me. It looked so fun, colorful, comfortable! Women can wear whatever the heck they want, so can I.

So after wearing womens clothing, I wanted to go further, makeup, wig and all. And the feminine feelings I got after doing that were amazing! I loved it, and now she's a part of me. I don't know if sensativity and femininity have anything to do with each other, but its all part of who I am.

So in a nutshell, CD's are better people. And another thing, I've never met a dumb one!

Rachel_740
07-22-2004, 12:59 PM
Jennifer,

I echo your feelings fully on your post here. Thats exactly how I feel, female clothes being fun, colourful and comfortable, and I'm the same with the wig. I had to buy 1 (then another) to complete the look. Gee, I love being girlie.

My second wife used to often say to me don't do this or that - it looks too feminine. GOOD!!! Now I have come out to my first wife, she says (on reflection) that as a guy I do have a lot of female/feminine ways about me, and she is not surprised to find I'm CD. She would also be cool if I did do the ultimate step and have SRS (well, thats what she says now - don't know if she would stick with that if I did it, but her auntie [was her uncle] has had SRS some years ago, so I think she probably would be cool as long as it didn't affect our kids too much).

Your last paragraph, however, Jennifer, I don't think I can fully agree with that, as it is a very sweeping statement, but I certainly understand what your saying.

Rach

Geri
07-22-2004, 01:39 PM
I have only ever "come out" to girlfriends or girl "friends". Without exception none have been totally shocked as they have all said that they always felt I was "in touch with my feminine side"...........Whatever that means!

All I can say is that like many others, I have fought against my crossdressing for many years and then given into it...............Then fought again........Then given in!

10 years ago I decided that enough was enough and I at last accepted that I am who I am. I can honestly say that that was one of the best decisions I have ever made, I now feel I know who I am and if people that I trust enough to tell about it can't accept it then it's "end of relationship time".

My only regret is all those great clothes that I threw away during the "purging" years.............But we've all been down that road!!

No guilt anymore, no confusion, I am a really nice, well rounded man who likes to be female when I'm at home.............No problem!

HillaryArtemis
07-22-2004, 03:59 PM
I am really excited to such a response to all subjects here at this site. You know I was doing one of those live chat things for CDs and it was very shallow and based upon sex. I really began to wonder who I was taling too. I tired of it after one night.

As for better people, my response was that it has maed me a better person - I ca not say what it has necessarily done with others. I was different before I finally gave in - you know during one of my crisis periods I couldn't understand it at all - I cried and wished that I was just gay and then I could explain why I wanted to do this - BUT no matter how hard I tried I couldn't be like that. This period in my life was traumatic and almost cost me everything. Now my life is different I have the best wife in the world and lovely bright children. I now will no longer struggle against what I am and I can appreciate what I have now.

In love with it all,

JodiArtemis