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[TxKimberly]

. . . Goodwill Camera! So today I was shopping at one of my favorite Goodwills in boy mode. Good day - I found a skirt and a top I liked and entered the dressing room stall to try the top on. I don't know why, but I happened to notice one of this little camera in the darkened bulbs in the ceiling. My first thought was that the angle was such that they might see the top of my head, but they wouldn't be seeing anything too private. Then I turned and noticed the wall opposite of camera was completely covered by mirror. I check, and sure enough, that camera has a perfect view of EVERYTHING that might be exposed in that fitting room. I chose NOT to try the blouse on there after all . . .

[JennyS.]

Did you report them? That is illegal in Texas. Texas privacy laws are very strict in this area. A dressing room is like a bathroom, once you close the door you have a reasonable expectancy of privacy.

[TxKimberly]

Did you report them? That is illegal in Texas. Texas privacy laws are very strict in this area. A dressing room is like a bathroom, once you close the door you have a reasonable expectancy of privacy.

I did not report them. I think it would be better to speak to their management before doing something like that. It's quite possible it was an honest over sight that just needs to be corrected.

[alexis GG]

I would say that it is illegal no matter what continent you live on...

[sissystephanie]

Cameras in dressing rooms ought to be illegal everywhere, if they aren't already. Unless they are going to provide me with a picture of me in my pretty new dress, etc.!!:heehee:

I think Kimberly is right though, talk to the manager first and explain that it is against the law. They probably do it to cut down on shoplifting, but they need to find another way to accomplish that.

[Jennifer_G]

I did not report them. I think it would be better to speak to their management before doing something like that. It's quite possible it was an honest over sight that just needs to be corrected.

Wow.
That is just darn right scary!!
There is no way that is acceptable in any circumstance!!

I did not think that sort of thing happened anywhere.

[CD Susan]

I would have gone to the manager of that store and demanded a full explanation. Maybe it was just a fake camera to ward off the shoplifters. If indeed it was a real camera and you were being watched this would be in violation of the law and should be reported to the authorities.

[Kate Simmons]

Interesting possibilities with that situation Kim, interesting indeed.;):battingeyelashes::)

[TxKimberly]

Cameras in dressing rooms ought to be illegal everywhere . . .

The camera was not in the dressing room itself. The dressing room is similar in construction to your typical office cubicle where the walls do not go to the ceiling. The camera is at least 10 to 20 feet away from the dressing room itself.
Honestly, I'm feeling guilty that I didn't say something. There I was holding a blouse and skirt in boy mode and wasn't inclined to raise hell about not being able to try it on. It has since occurred to me that I left other people now to be exposed. Tomorrow I will contact the store and speak to a manager.

[linnea]

I did not report them. I think it would be better to speak to their management before doing something like that. It's quite possible it was an honest over sight that just needs to be corrected.

I appreciate that you would talk to the management before making a formal legal report or complaint, but I also think that this should be reported and that you should get some assurance that the problem has been fixed. It is a clear invasion of privacy and statutorially illegal everywhere I know of.
It's kind of creepy too!

[Frizzchick]

That is pretty freaky. I think I'll be more conscious of where I'm dressing when I'm in a store. It's good advice for anyone that is in a store to be aware of your surroundings, but now we have to be aware of where the cameras are? Wow.

[Marilynn]

I'd be concerned that some perv that works there set up the camera to check out women. I worked with a guy who had a part-time job at the local drive-in - obviously a long time ago. He got free passes, so he and his girlfriend invited me to go with them one night. When he and i went to the concession stand, he invited me to walk around back and stand on a milk crate to look inside the Ladies' room. Errrr... no thanks, dude.

[suchacutie]

So haven't you all been in a men's try-on room, have one wall a mirror, and a notice that says that the dressing rooms are monitored by same-sex security personnel?

One-way mirror, without a doubt. Maybe it's only legal if you tell people you are doing it and let them make the choice.

Anyone know the actual legal statutes?

tina

[JennyS.]

In Texas... It is definately against the law. Even if you tell a person that he or she is being watched. I mean, if you go into a bathroom and there is a sign on the wall that says you 'may be watched by someone of the same sex', what are your assurances? This was brought up several years ago and some of the laws were changed to say that each individual has a 'reasonable expectation of privacy. This situation falls into that catagory. I mean... Seriously, many married people don't change in front of each other. Personally, I don't even like peeing in urinals because I want privacy, and the fact that sometimes your bodily fluids splash on you!

[Nicki B]

don't know why, but I happened to notice one of this little camera in the darkened bulbs in the ceiling.

Shucks.. And another plan bites the dust.. :rolleyes:

[joann07]

HMM. I see lawsuit!!!
Dang those peeping Toms at the Goodwill store!

Hugs!

[Tora]

MACY's dressing room in intimate appearel, has a sign that the room is monitored by female staff. I have used the room with consent of SA, without getting naked, trying on a breifer over panties. Store is in Troy, Mich. I was in drab. The private room is right off the sales area, not with the other dressing room cluster, which I would not wish to use.

["Mary"]

I am in such trouble - I've often taken more the max allowable 4 items in with me!

[TxKimberly]

. . . I'm sorry but if I'm gonna change my clothes in front of a two way mirror and I'm gonna be watched there better be a bill slot beside it and there better be $20's coming through it first:drink:

ROFL :heehee:

[Carlacd]

Well ladies, it just so happens that i contacted the store Kim was in. And all of there cameras in this store are connected to recorders. I bought a copy of the tape, and am selling copies of Kim undressing for $20. She's got the cutest little mole right on her $%^&#%. :D :daydreaming:


Actually, cameras are illegal in all states in dressing rooms. They may face the entrance of the area, but nothing allowed of the rooms them selfs.


ps, Kims got legs to die for:eek:

[Sheila]

Well ladies, it just so happens that i contacted the store Kim was in. And all of there cameras in this store are connected to recorders. I bought a copy of the tape, and am selling copies of Kim undressing for $20. She's got the cutest little mole right on her $%^&#%. :D :daydreaming:
Actually, cameras are illegal in all states in dressing rooms. They may face the entrance of the area, but nothing allowed of the rooms them selfs.
ps, Kims got legs to die for:eek:

your paypal payment will be on it's way as soon as I have access to your account including password :heehee::heehee:

[TGMarla]

Man, there goes the main attraction at the Goodwill holiday party. Way to kill the fun, Kimberly! Ya kill-joy! :D

[Angie G]

Oh come on Kimberly show them what you've got hun.:hugs:
Angie

[JoAnne Wheeler]

Don't shop there anymore

JoAnne Wheeler

[Sarah...]

Oh! Poor show indeed! But did you wave at the camera as you left?

I wave at cameras I suspect are wrongly placed, illegal or suspect. It makes me feel better :)

Sarah...

[bobi jean]

I would call the Texas state attorney generals office as well as informing the store manager... OVER SIGHT MY ASS. GUARANTEE YOU SOMEONE HAS WATCHED A LOT OF THOSE VIDEOS.............

[Mary Morgan]

These days I just assume that I am on camera everywhere I go and I act accordingly. I try to behave as though my wife or my mother is watching. Does this slow me down, perhaps, but it doesn't stop me. I'd say the camera is illegal, but how many cameras are out there anyway? Don't you love technology?

[Sally2005]

Darn! That means I have to dress up 100% before using the change rooms... so I only look like a naked woman trying on clothes. Arugh, gotta shave the legs, arm pits and get an even tan.

[carolinewalker_2000]

Is there no privacy anywhere anymore? The "surviellance society" is becoming too much.

[Nicole Erin]

I did not report them. I think it would be better to speak to their management before doing something like that. It's quite possible it was an honest over sight that just needs to be corrected.

doubt it.
An honest oversight would be something like a wrong price or something petty.
How they position the cameras, there isn't really room for silly mistakes there. It takes a bit of work to aim cameras, surely they had to have noticed it could see into the fitting rooms.

[donnalee]

It's worse than you think. There are video cameras the size of a nail head (about 1/4") that can be mounted anywhere. Unless you are very observant (and know what to look for), you'll never see them. You just have to assume "Big Brother (or Sister) is Watching You" and act accordingly. Or you can, as I have, join the DGAD (Don't Give A Damn) Society. :devil:

[SherriePall]

Touching on cameras in bathrooms, I used to work for a large multi-national company. Someone I know was caught removing the packaging from product and secreting the product while in the bathroom. Turns out it is legal to have cameras in bathrooms so long as they aren't aimed at the urinals or inside the stalls.
BTW, most cameras nowadays are so small you wouldn't have a clue they were there.

[Bobbi Lynn]

Only one thing comes to mind "1984"!

[Jilmac]

Thanks for the heads up Kimberly, I'll check out my local Goodwill store next time I'm there. I have never seen cameras focused on dressing rooms in any of the stores I've been to in Wisconsin or Illinois (retail or resale) but since your experience, I think it's wise to look for hidden cameras. A girl never knows when she's being watched. :eek:

[Sophie Lynne]

Man, there goes the main attraction at the Goodwill holiday party. Way to kill the fun, Kimberly! Ya kill-joy! :D
yeah what a buzz kill! *looks for new places to hide camera* :D

[amy canada]

I was at a Value Village store a few weeks ago, and I think I noticed the same thing about a certain security camera. Of course, I work at a hospital with some security guys, and they don't necessarily monitor the cameras unless they're looking for something specific. They mainly just check the cameras for something after the fact, but no one there really watches the monitors like the security people at Las Vegas casinos.

[JennyS.]

Yeah... But, you know someone notices when someone as cute as Kim goes in the dressing room to change. And when and if that person is caught, throw the book at him and the manager.

[cd_britney_426]

That is definitely illegal in Arizona and may even be a felony. It is likely illegal in all 50 states. You may want to alert management to see their reaction and depending on how they act should determine whether or not you take further action including reporting it to the police. Since you are not at the store now, you may be better off calling the corporate number. After all, the management of that one store could be in on it. I would definitely take some kind of action. Britney

[Sherry-Stephanie]

I've done some LP work in retail clothing stores and cameras are not allowed in dressing areas regardless..it's due to privacy issues over preventing shoplifting...it's ILEGAL!!!! and can result in a successful lawsuit....now it could be that someone installed that camera just to get some thrill shots....regardless it can be in an area where people go in and change....I'd call their regional location and simply ask fi they as a practice monitor the dressing room with cameras...

[Melora]

Kimberly;
I am a Surveillance investigator for a large Casino complex..
1. Surveillance within restrooms or changing rooms is Illegal.
2. Cameras that "appear" to be looking at an area might just be looking at Something else.. I assure you.
3. You have the right to ask the manager about the camera in question, I am sure.. PLEASE ASK HIM!!! If you have ANY doubts.
4. Most cameras are set up to capture Employee theft and not the Other.. Employee theft = about 90 ./. of buisness theft.. A changing room Should have one camera on the Main door of the Area, to see who enters and exits and what they were in possession. A camera within the room is VERRY WEIRD INDEED, unless the layout is a strange one...

Katie

[cdterri]

You should have tried the blouse on, then called the police. It is totally illegal to film the inside of a dressing room. Police would have confiscated the film and You could have sued the establishment.

[TxKimberly]

Just thought I'd fill y'all in. I just got a call from their regional manager assuring me that the camera under the dark ball is not, and can not, face that direction. None the less, damned if I'll use that dressing room!