The Older Brother Effect

[Gerard]

Something I came accross on the internet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_sexual_orientation

It seems to have a relationship with the sexual orientation of MtF TS. It is also observed in those not raised with older brothers, but who do have them, suggesting that the effect happens before birth and upbringing is not a factor.

I found it interesting because it shows two things:
- Part of the homosexual orientation is shown to happen in utero, a hot debate in some communities.
- It shows it also affects some MtF, possibly making the mechanisms that make someone MtF related to the mechanisms that make some others homosexual. It seems related to hormones in the womb during gestation.

[Raquel June]

Odd... It doesn't really claim to have any impact on whether or not someone is TS, just whether or not an M2F TS is interested in men. I have one older brother and no sisters, and I've had sex with men ... but I suppose I'd have to say that I'm more attracted to women.

[Byanca]

I've seen this study before. I have 2 older brothers, and one younger. Most people think I like men, but I like woman more. And I've always related to lesbian scenes. But my fantasies often include a man. I'll admit to that. But my sex life is mostly only fantasies, I'm to disgusted with my body for IRL experiences, and afraid what the other will think when it turns out to not be a woman's. I've tried that with girls. Also one time with a man. I'm not sure, but with the man it was more fun. Since he didn't have any negative reactions, rather the opposite. But I pushed him away when he where kissing and he tried to enter me. Was not ready for that. But we did the other things and that was nice. Did not really feel much different then a woman. For me it is their emotional state of mind that is most important, not really the exterior.

Anyway-I don't look at my self as homosexual. It does not really have any meaning at this point, since i'm still un moulded, like a blank paper. It will only have meaning when I've settled into a sex, and that certainly have not happened with this male thing.

[Lisa Golightly]

I have an older brother, but my sexual interest in men started sometime into my hormone regime. Before that I liked girls... was very attracted to them... They do absolutely nothing for me now, and I photograph quite a few... So I've kinda been straight both ways... though I must admit everything seems far more appealling this time 'round.

[kellycan27]

I don't have any older brothers, and I was into this TS thing long before the issue of sex played a part. I have been with a woman exactly twice. I didn't hate the experience, but nor did the earth move. I consider myself a hetrosexual femle, and gravitate towards hetrosexual men.

[Byanca]

One other thing, I kind of thought I was a girl when I was a kid. So I had sex with a boy same age as me when I was 10 or something. It was his idea to try it. But I dont think he got a hard on, since I didnt feel much. But I was on all 4, and that felt perfectly natural. We where caught in the act by his mother and ant. Lol-so I was told that this was not they way to do this. It was the same guy I told about over here, when I wanted to try it for real when I got older, but chickened out, as usual.

And after I became more aware of the male body, it did not feel right, so I have not wanted to do it since I tried for real that one time. But that episode with my friend was my first sexual encounter. 5 years later, when I was 22 it was with a woman. I tried some few more times with a woman-but this penetration thing feels so strange. So that is not designed for me, that is just the way it is i've found out. But everything else with woman is great-I like that better then with guys. I think it is the concrete femininity I long for, but if I get that myself I suspect things will be different. A few guys I've flirted with recently have told me that they get off on shapes and curves. And that is not very fun for me to hear. But I understand it, i'm not interested on homosexual guys either. I just hope they can see through my flaws-read male body- but that does not happen. That is the same problem with the woman i've been with. Although it has been the other way around there-that they like my body, but not me. That make it total pointless for me, since i'm able to ignore my body, and theirs, and feed of the mental connection. But that does not work if they are not able. Like I can not change their perception of reality. I'm not sure if I have the right to either, even if I could. So I need to take responsibility for this myself.

[Shikyo]

I think of myself as a lesbian, though imprisoned inside a male body for now. Even when I was small I thought like this. Nor did I ever have the usual male kind of sexual fantasies neither. I've always been interested in females and I'll always stay like that, I just want to be female myself.

I do have an older sister, but I only lived inside the same house with her since I was 10 and later on one more year when she moved over to my dad place for a year.

[Carole Cross]

I don't have any older brothers, only a sister. My father is from a large family of 12 siblings and has, or had, about 4 elder brothers and 4 younger ones. As far as I know none of them are homosexual or TS, and I do not know of any other transgendered people in my family, although I only know some of them others I have never even met.
My point is had this research been carried out on my extended family, the results could have been very different.

[Raquel June]

Well, there's not that many gay people out there for it to be surprising that there aren't any in your family (not to mention people being in the closet).

I'm definitely skeptical of anything like this. I do find it interesting, though. I have three male cousins, and the youngest one definitely acts gay. The only gay friend of mine who has told me much about his family is the youngest of three boys as well.

[<3 Keri Lynn <3]

I'm the eldest in my entire generation of my family but I am the ONLY male out of 8 them of course being all female. I grew up around girls and in school I had a lot of female friends but never had a girlfriend because I wasn't very attracted to them, not that they didn't look bad just it wasn't a concern for me. I had few if any male friends maybe 4 at most. I think I'm the way I am because the way I was raised being surrounded by so much estrogen. But that's me which goes against what The Older Brother Effect states :lol2:

As for my sexual preference I consider myself open and respect good looks regardless of gender :heehee:


*Hugs*Kisses*

[Kaitlyn Michele]

This research was done by Ray Blanchard if I read it correctly.....many folks in the ts community have a big problem with his sampling methods and how he does very little actual research and reaches broad conclusions...

Other research has not validated the findings in the study in the wiki

btw...i'm first born...my little brother is as straight and macho as they come...
my sexuality is........fluid

nobody asked me in the study!!!!! :tongueout

[StevieTV]

Hmmm, I don't have any older brothers, just an older sister. My younger brother has been married twice, has kids and totally a straight hetero breeder. I guess he's an outlier for the study.
I've been with 3 women and never found it orgasmic (literally). It seems someone published a paper for the sake of publishing.

[CharleneT]

Well... I have one older and one younger brother. Both are strait and very non-TG . Oh well...