Has anybody heard of the oldest boy in the family being the most likely to crossdress

[Leah_1972]

Hi everybody, I'm new here and was reading something on a website a while back where this guy said that its usually the oldest son out of the kids who is most likely to crossdress. Well, I am the oldest son out of 5 kids in my family. I have 3 sisters and 1 brother, I am the oldest of all 5 kids. I started dressing when I was around 11 years old and still dress to this day. I am now 36 years old and can't seem to stop. I don't remember what website I was on, but I thought it was pretty interesting that he mentioned the oldest son being the most likely. He hit the nail right on the head for me.

Leah

[cindym5_04]

I'm 36 and the oldest boy in my family. Then again, I'm the only son. I have an older sister, but she looks like a young boy if that counts...

I think there was a lot of influence by my mom though. My sister and I shared a room growing up that was decorated quite femininely. That and my mom's attention was always focused on what my sister wanted too. It still is to this day- but I'm past that now.

[Kierci]

:2c:I hate to blow that theory out of the window however I am the youngest child and am the only crossdresser in the family as far as I know.

[Miranda09]

Hmmmm. Interesting as I'm the oldest of 4 children, and the only male!

[Carroll]

Oldest of 3 sisters on my mom's side and oldest of one sister on my dad's side and the only boy of the whole lot!

[DianneRoberts]

I am the oldest of 6
2 sisters 3 brothers

:thumbsup:

[tracie674]

oldest of 3 male children no girls. as far as i know im the only crossdresser. also only lefty. i wonder how many of us are lefties compared to the rest of society?

[dennisGTS]

I was the youngest child when I first started to crossdress but then my father remarried had two more kids then I bacame the oldest son...

[Midnight Skye]

Hi Leah. I read this thing about the oldest boy somewhere also. It was based on some kind of rough study by some psychologist. I've tried to find more information on it, but no luck.

I'm also the oldest of seven. With five brothers and one sister. Boy would they have a laughing fit if they new my true colors - giggles -.

[Daintre]

I have 2 older sisters and 2 younger sisters, I am the only boy (wanna be girl). Made for interesting times growing up.

[Lorileah]

there are three boys in my family, a CD(me), one gay and one good ol boy. I say they had one of each :) I am the oldest so....

[Anna the Dub]

Well, I am the youngest of 5, 3 brothers and 1 sister, and I am TS. Not aware of any of my brothers being CDers or TS.

[Ellen James]

Oldest child and oldest boy. :sigh:

[Sophie Lynne]

I'm the youngest and only CD of 2 boys.

Doesn't mean the theory is wrong. There are always outliers...

[Kate Simmons]

Nope but how about the oldest boy secretly believing himself to be a girl who is a tomboy and secretly dressing while he was growing up?;):)

[Joni Marie Cruz]

OMG, I am so seeing a trend. I am the oldest son, in my family it was boy (Me! Hi there!), boy, girl. I also vaguely remember somewhere seeing a similar study but can't recall specifics. It so sux getting old. The study had something to do with first male births not getting quite as much of a testosterone hose down en utero during the final trimester as subsequent births of male siblings...or some such thing. Really, getting old bites.

Hugs...Joni Mari

[TSchapes]

I'm the first born male of a first born male of a first born male. I must be some kind of super-cross-dresser! :D

Still haven't found out where in the pecking order my Slovakian Great-Grandfather was...

-Tracy

[SweetCaroline]

I never heard that before, but I am the oldest boy of three with one older sibling-a SISTER. I don't know what, if anything that has to do with me being a crossdresser, but I thought I'd through it out there for sake of the survey.

[bridgette63]

Definatly seeing a trend, I'm the oldest... 1 boy 2 girls

[carhill2mn]

I, too, am the oldest but, this is another theory of "why" that is purely coincidental. There are lots of theories around about why people crossdress but, few things (if any) that can be proved.

[Jessica Who]

I am the oldest of two children and have a younger sister

[insearchofme]

I am the second oldest of 5 and am the only CD.

[Kathi Lake]

Oldest here. All boys in my family. I have two younger brothers (twins). I guess I'll have to monitor my oldest (a boy) to see if he's breaking into my clothing stash! :)

Kathi

[Erica A.]

O. K., here goes...Girl, Girl, Girl, Boy, Boy (twins), ME, Boy. (I'm the only crossdresser of my siblings)
My kid's... Oldest, a Boy, who wore the wedding dress at his wedding! (hummm...) and a girl (pretty straight laced). -Erica

[BLUE ORCHID]

I am the oldest of four with a younger sister brother and another sister.
At 66.5 yrs. been dressing 60+ yrs. with no sign of slowing down
any time soon.
.................................................. ....thanks...........ORCHID

[nicole01r]

I am the oldest of three boys. Started at around twelve yrs. also.

[Ashley_1962]

interesting.....this theory must be true!!!

I am the middle child.. but oldest male (older sister, younger brother..).

[Hermina]

Mmm..I'm an only child, so yeah.
mina

[Alana65]

Youngest boy, here.

[Michelle 51]

I'm the oldest boy in my family and am also a lefty.

[Gabrielle Hermosa]

Hi everybody, I'm new here and was reading something on a website a while back where this guy said that its usually the oldest son out of the kids who is most likely to crossdress. Well, I am the oldest son out of 5 kids in my family. I have 3 sisters and 1 brother, I am the oldest of all 5 kids. I started dressing when I was around 11 years old and still dress to this day. I am now 36 years old and can't seem to stop. I don't remember what website I was on, but I thought it was pretty interesting that he mentioned the oldest son being the most likely. He hit the nail right on the head for me.

Leah

I'm the oldest sibling in my family. I'm not sure that has anything to do with it though. I've been in contact with other cd's who've talked about their older siblings to me in conversation, which makes them NOT the oldest. I believe it's the luck of the draw in the gene cocktail when as the fertilized egg transforms into a human baby.


I am now 36 years old and can't seem to stop.

Do you want to? Hell, my crossdressing is what I love most about who I am. I'd be depressed as hell if it ever went away. Struggled with it all my life, but once I accepted myself, I found great strength and happiness in this part of my life. :)

[kellylynn_31]

youngest of three boys but have a younger sister

[Jackiefl]

I'm the oldest of 3,younger sister and brother.Iguess it must be true,tag i'm it lol

[Marcia Blue]

I am the oldest of five. Two sisters and two brothers. Only CD and yougest sister is a lesbian.

[Diane Smith]

Given the average number of children in mid-20th century American families, the probability is about 75% that any male child will be the first-born son in his family. Therefore, to be statistically significant, you would have to show that something like 90% to 95% of crossdressers are first-born sons -- since three quarters will be by chance alone -- a high standard of proof which is not yet illustrated by the poll here.

This demographic fact has been use to support a lot of nonsensical conjectures about first-born children over the years.

(I'm an only child of an only child, and proud of it!)

- Diane (knowing all those statistics classes she took in grad school would be useful sooner or later!)

[anna kate]

Somebody has to be the odd one out, I'm the youngest of three. If my older (ten years my senior) brother CDs, I don't know. At least he didn't get caught (like me)if he did.

[luv2x-dress53959]

i too am the oldest boy in my family...i am 35years old...Autumn

[cd300]

i am the oldest of 4 children. and so far as i know the only cd though my younger bro has a thing for my moms nighties when he was little also other bro dressed as a a tramp for halloween maybe we are all crossdressers. lol
Jess

[obsessedwithpantyhose]

im the monkey in the middle,,older sis and younger bro,,was 12 and it was my sisters pantyhose,,,im 46 now and have NO plans of stoping my dressing,,,
im a righty......

[savvy_fudge]

I'm the oldest in my family, 1 boy 2 girls (twins). A pattern is definately beginning to emerge.

Savannah

[Razilee]

I believe I've come across that factoid before too. I too am the oldest. I did however have a sister two years younger whose clothes I borrowed.

[AlysonCD]

I'm the next to youngest. Two older brothers, one older sister, and one younger sister. I'm the only one in my (immediate) family who cd's. And for the record, I wore both sisters clothes...lol

[Rachel Morley]

Me too. I'm the oldest. I have a younger bother and no sisters.

[DianneRoberts]

Maybe it's the stress and the responsibility that olders typically bare.
Also oldests ( I believe I heard ) are more often the most "successful".
And Success brings responsibility, brings stress, brings need for stress relief.
And what better relief than to CD, at least until exitting the safety of the closet.

Logical ?

:2c:

[Jonelle]

oldest of Five here..

i find it pretty interesting

[molly_maguire]

Oldest of three, left-handed, and glad to be here.

[Bobbi Lynn]

Oldest of 5, me, sister, stepbrother, stepsister, stepbrother.

[Karen C]

I am the youngest of 2 sons 5 years apart and my brouther has since past . so depending how you look at it i could be the youngest boy or ths youngest girl friend . :battingeyelashes:

[Karren H]

I'm the oldest... one younger brother and one younger sister....

[Bea A]

youngest of 12 total;:2c: mom had 4 boys, 2 girls with first husband, Dad had 3 boys with 1st wife, then together they had my ister brother and me. I'm the only one of my kind... I think.

[bianncats]

a strange phenom

[Mona]

Oldest of four!

[Sarah Welch]

3 boys, I'm the middle one and only.

[MarcellaMcNul]

youngest of two boys. If my older brother CD's he would NEVER admit it.

[PretzelGirl]

I am the youngest male. The problem with these kind of numbers is that they are skewed by their very own data. Every family that has a CD male but is also the only male, automatically chalks one up for the oldest male. So if things are spread evenly, the oldest male will most certainly have the highest odds.

I seem to remember a similar thread here about crossdressers being left handed. Well all of the lefthanders came in and replied while I'll bet a number of righthanders went to the next subject. Hmmmmm....

[kelliboots]

I am the oldest male child and a lefty to boot.

[jenn25wnycd]

I'm the oldest of 5 boys. Seems like there's a lot of us. Weird!

[MimiLee]

This is really interesting...I'm not the oldest child, but am the oldest son.

[WendyD]

Hello,
I'm the first son of the first of the first son and I don't know any further back than that. I have six sisters and one brother. My brother is gay.

[lottarosie70]

middle son of three sons...no sisters. i am left handed though.

[Erica G]

Oldest of 3.

[Sarah Doepner]

Youngest of two boys. I'll have to peek into my brother's closet the next time I visit his house. This could be interesting.

[Lisa LIckorice]

This is really interesting! :) I'm the youngest of six children, and I'm one of those crossdressers! LOL!

[Sammy777]

I am the youngest of 3, [older brother and sister]
But we are 5 years apart and according to research that changes a lot.

I'm left handed, and so is my grandmother, mother and sister.
My grandfather, father and brother are right handed.

So it seems being left handed in my family is a female trait.
So I guess I fit right in as one of the girls, lol

I though the research showed the younger ones were more likely?? IDK - I wonder if this is just for CD'ers or if it is the same for us TS's as well?

[Monique L]

I'm adopted so I don't know where I'm at in the bio family. I am the oldest in my adopted family though.

[Carrie R]

I'm the youngest of 3 boys, with the younger 2 being CDs.

[Colleen03]

Scarily accurate... I too am the oldest sibling. Though I grew up mostly with my mom & sister which I would say was the main influence to my xdressing. My story of where it all started is similar to yours Leah, I am 35 and started when I was 10, but we've all done our purging... now I just can't seem to stop despite being happily married.

[Leah_1972]

thats interesting to hear. I can't believe how many replies I've had just today on this. This is great.

Leah

[Leah_1972]

OMG, I am so seeing a trend. I am the oldest son, in my family it was boy (Me! Hi there!), boy, girl. I also vaguely remember somewhere seeing a similar study but can't recall specifics. It so sux getting old. The study had something to do with first male births not getting quite as much of a testosterone hose down en utero during the final trimester as subsequent births of male siblings...or some such thing. Really, getting old bites.

Hugs...Joni Mari

Thats interesting to hear. Thanks for sharing that with all of us. I just wanted to see if there was any truth to what the guy was saying.

Leah

[Sophie_C]

Oldest, too.

WTF is with this very real pattern?

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Leah_1972]

Wow! I had no idea that a lot of the older males were left handed. I find that interesting since I am right handed and the oldest of 5. I'd like to thank everybody for all the posts on here. I feel like I have learned a little more about this subject now.

Leah:)

[Leah_1972]

Oldest, too.

WTF is with this very real pattern?

:eek: :eek: :eek:

very strange isn't it.

Leah

[pantyboycd4u]

weird, I'm the oldest brother in my family.

[Sonia_cd]

Leah, why don't you - (a) convert this to a poll; and (b) change the question to read first born child who is also male likey to crossdress? I want to say add an option for left-handed or right-handed, but am not convinced there is merit there. However, it would be interesting to extract information from a sizeable cross-section of society to see if left-handers have a stronger connection with the feminine within them.

To answer your original question, I'm the older of 2, the other being a younger sister. i see many more"masculine" features in her. To be frivoluos, i've hated my uni-brow and took care of it whilst she seems to have no issues with hers. :D

[Ballerina]

I'm the youngest out of 9. 4 brothers, and 3 sisters. Granted, I did mostly grow up as an only child after I turned 8. Just had that revolving door at my house with my siblings, lol.

[Anna the Dub]

All of you who said 'Wow, I am so seeing a trend here' etc, did you notice all of us who are not the oldest?

[kay2]

A hasty and hacky review of the answers so far shows no correlation:

All of those who are the only male child reported being the oldest male child (isn't that amazing:D)
Of those from families with 2 boys, 60% were the older, and 40% were the younger
From families with 3 boys, the respondents were spread across the three positions, with slight tendency towards older
One family with 4 boys, respondent was oldest boy
Four families with 5 boys, the tendency was towards being one of the youngest boys
One family with 6 boys, respondent was oldest
One family with 9 boys, respondent was youngest
Amongst those who did not say how many boys were in the family, there was a split amongst those reporting to be the oldest and those reporting to be the youngest.

As pointed out earlier, most boys in small to middle-sized families are the oldest boy (simply because they are either the only boy, or there are only two boys).

[allisonrn06]

I come from a family of 5, 1 sister and 3 brothers and I am the oldest of the boys.

[belinda59]

:2c:I myself am the second of three. 3 daughters that I was always their model for when they were making their clothes..:) hmmm no wonder..
only member of .my family ( that I know of )

[Bobbi Em]

I'm the middle of 3 boys, whose beloved older sister would simply die if she knew how I used to raid her room as a teenager:-)

Bobbi

[Janet Bern]

Maybe there is something to it. I am the oldest an here I am. Janet

[Teri Jean]

Leah,
I too am the oldest of five, one sister 10 months younger. I started to experiment early in my life as you did and have been off and on since. What can a girl say, right?

Keli

[melinda45]

oldest of 3 !!

[tanya1976]

Hi everybody, I'm new here and was reading something on a website a while back where this guy said that its usually the oldest son out of the kids who is most likely to crossdress. Well, I am the oldest son out of 5 kids in my family. I have 3 sisters and 1 brother, I am the oldest of all 5 kids. I started dressing when I was around 11 years old and still dress to this day. I am now 36 years old and can't seem to stop. I don't remember what website I was on, but I thought it was pretty interesting that he mentioned the oldest son being the most likely. He hit the nail right on the head for me.

Leah

I have two brothers and two sisters, and yes I am also the eldest! I would be intrigued to know why the article thinks this may be the case...

[susan2010]

I am the youngest of 4. Sister was oldest, then two brothers, then a 5 yr gap, then me. Started borrowing sister's clothes when I was 4 or 5.

[gender_blender]

I'm an only child, so I'm the oldest, but also the youngest.

[Dressing Jill]

I am the oldest of 5. I have 4 sisters

[cindyscute]

The theory is wrong since Im the youngest.

[BreenaDion]

Nope ! Im the younger of two boys or baby of family. Sad to say I follow in my father's sesspool of jeans LOL true. My bro an sis are quite straight , With 4 kids an 6 grankids Im pretty sure im the lucky one ! lol good luck an happy hunting :love:

[Marla16]

oldest of 3

[linnea]

I'm the younger of two boys in my family; I'm the crossdresser. My brother is not a crossdresser. There may be a correlation between oldest children and crossdressing, but I haven't seen any convincing evidence yet.

[MsJanessa]

I was the oldest and I started at age 11

[kristinacd55]

I'm the youngest out of 3, so I guess I go against the grain there :)

[Debbie801]

Chalk up another one. Oldest of three.

[Jan Michell Collins]

I'm the youngset of 3 with 2 older sisters

[SherriePall]

Oldest of three brothers. Oldest of four siblings.

[LisaM]

I am the 2nd of 7 children. I don't know if #1 is a cd.

[Juanita O]

well i am the youngest of 2 boys.

[mishelle379]

well, Im the youngest, sister oldest and brother inbetween

[Jilmac]

Well, I'm the oldest son but the middle sibling out of seven, with three sisters before me and tow sisters and a brother after. I guess that would make me the oldest son in my family. I was seven yrs old the first time I wore panties and a dress (on a dare), and with three older sisters and plenty of girls clothes to experiment with, I became the family crossdresser. I don't know how accurate that study is but it fits my family situation.

[Tomara]

I am also the oldest male with two younger brothers , an older sister and a younger sister.
Tomara

[FionaO]

I am second oldest boy but I have seven younger brothers. My dad is also from a very large family and years ago (early 60's) his oldest brother was arrested by the police for being dressed as a woman in a public place,
Fiona O

[Rachaelb64]

2nd youngest of 5, left-handed, I like being odd :)

[Ann D Bluebird]

Third born male of four, so not fitting with the idea which Leah was quoting.

However I found a paper from the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry Vol. 38, No. 5. pp. 543-551. 1997 By Prof. Kenneth Zucker and others titled "Sibling Sex Ratio of Boys with Gender Identity Disorder" with a different conclusion, that does square up with my own situation.

I'll quote from the abstract:

"Sibling sex ratio (the ratio of brothers to sisters) was calculated for 444 boys with gender identity disorder (or with behaviors consistent with this diagnosis)." using data "from several researchers with expertise with this disorder and from the English language case report literature between 1938 and 1995". This suggested that "Among the probands with at least
one sibling, the results showed that boys with gender identity disorder had a significant excess of brothers to sisters, 131.1:100, when compared with the expected secondary sex ratio of 106:100. The excess of brothers replicated a previous study by Blanchard, Zucker, Bradley, and Hume (1995), in which the sibling sex ratio was 140.6:100. Further analyses showed that the probands were born later relative to their brothers than
they were relative to their sisters."


So.......who is correct? Are these two points of view incompatible? It seems so to me
:2c:
Ann Rosa

p.s Perhaps the "let out clause" in reconciling these two views comes in that Leah's is talking about cross-dressing per se, and the study by Zucker et. al is about those with "Gender Identity Disorder". Maybe someone would clarify if cross dressing always implies G.I.D or not. I suspect the answer is "not" :idontknow:

[Anna the Dub]

"Sibling sex ratio (the ratio of brothers to sisters) was calculated for 444 boys with gender identity disorder (or with behaviors consistent with this diagnosis)." using data "from several researchers with expertise with this disorder and from the English language case report literature between 1938 and 1995". This suggested that "Among the probands with at least
one sibling, the results showed that boys with gender identity disorder had a significant excess of brothers to sisters, 131.1:100, when compared with the expected secondary sex ratio of 106:100. The excess of brothers replicated a previous study by Blanchard, Zucker, Bradley, and Hume (1995), in which the sibling sex ratio was 140.6:100. Further analyses showed that the probands were born later relative to their brothers than
they were relative to their sisters."


That fits me perfectly. Eldest brother, brother, brother, sister and then me. Apparently, my Mother wanted a second girl to round off the family. I would've preferred a 2nd girl too!

[Jenniferca]

I'm the oldest boy with a sister and 2 brothers but as far as seeing a trend, keep in mind the title of the thread. I clicked on it because it applied to me. How many passed it by because it didn't apply to them?

Jennifer

[sandie johnson]

Interesting Thread. It a fits for me .Older sister, younger brother,Middle child syndrome and a CD what can I say.
Sandie

[Darla in Pa.]

Youngest here 2 brothers and a sister.

[Lisa Golightly]

I'm the youngest :)

[ccrossd32]

I am the oldest in my family and a lefty.
Two brothers are gay and one straight.
Me happily married.

[FionaO]

Third born male of four, so not fitting with the idea which Leah was quoting.

However I found a paper from the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry Vol. 38, No. 5. pp. 543-551. 1997 By Prof. Kenneth Zucker and others titled "Sibling Sex Ratio of Boys with Gender Identity Disorder" with a different conclusion, that does square up with my own situation.

I'll quote from the abstract:

"Sibling sex ratio (the ratio of brothers to sisters) was calculated for 444 boys with gender identity disorder (or with behaviors consistent with this diagnosis)." using data "from several researchers with expertise with this disorder and from the English language case report literature between 1938 and 1995". This suggested that "Among the probands with at least
one sibling, the results showed that boys with gender identity disorder had a significant excess of brothers to sisters, 131.1:100, when compared with the expected secondary sex ratio of 106:100. The excess of brothers replicated a previous study by Blanchard, Zucker, Bradley, and Hume (1995), in which the sibling sex ratio was 140.6:100. Further analyses showed that the probands were born later relative to their brothers than
they were relative to their sisters."


So.......who is correct? Are these two points of view incompatible? It seems so to me
:2c:
Ann Rosa

p.s Perhaps the "let out clause" in reconciling these two views comes in that Leah's is talking about cross-dressing per se, and the study by Zucker et. al is about those with "Gender Identity Disorder". Maybe someone would clarify if cross dressing always implies G.I.D or not. I suspect the answer is "not" :idontknow:
This another new factor. In my family as well as being second boy the brother to sister ratio was 450:100. Oh and I'm also a leftie.
Fiona O

[Ann D Bluebird]

:eek:
the brother to sister ratio was 450:100. You have 449 brothers and 100 sisters!!?? :eek: :D :devil:

[cdterri]

Oldest of nine, 4 boys 5 girls. None other than Myself crossdress, do have 1 sister thats bi.

[Regina]

I to am the oldest, I have a younger brother.



Regina

[Miranda09]

This is proving to be interesting. So far, it looks like this straw pole is confirming the statistics of the original study. Not sure what that means. Coincidence or something else? :)

[Melissa Anne]

I'm the oldest in my family. 3 younger brothers and a sister. I really doubt any of my brothers are CDers.

[Lee Andrews]

I'm the oldest of two. What does it mean who knows but it is interesting none the less.

[shayleetv]

I'm the eldest son, but my sister is the oldest. I'm also the only son. That also makes a difference.

[Keely]

Another oldest of 3.

Anybody keeping count? I wish we had the old polls back.

[Sigrid Cutie]

well i'm the oldest

[VtVicky]

Oldest of 4 and right handed. (b,b,g,b)

Before anyone jumps to any conclusions, some distinction should be made and corralated to the different types of CDers. At least transgendered vs. fetish CDing. "Nature" vs. "Nurture", etc.

The problem with any results drawn from Psychology studies based on review of patient populations is that they are not double blind. They use people who have experienced enough distress in their lives that they have presented themselves to the Mental Health System. They can only guess at the rest of the population who are not that distressed by our CDing.

The first page in my college statistics textbook said: "There are three kinds of lies. Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics."

[Prissy Linda]

I am the oldest child, I have 2 younger sisters. Many of the CD's i've met have mentioned that they are also the eldest... interesting.

[Kate17]

Oldest male here - I am not going to ask my brother if he is a cross dresser.

[mattie75]

I to am the oldest boy. Have been dressing since as long as I can remember.

[erica12b]

oldest of two , me and my sister


if the info helps

[Caroline C]

I'm the oldest of three boys. Interesting, Perhaps the mods can open up just one poll to get statistics of the participants.

[Stacy Lyn]

I'm also the oldest of three, one sister and one brother.

[Pattie O]

Youngest and only Cder of two boys although I do have a photo of my dad dressed up as a girl for a fancy dress party back in the 50s.Intriguing.Dont think there's any real connection though because I began dressing as a 4 yo before seeing this photo.

Pattie:o

[faithricd]

Oldest of 3, and only male.

[Penny Lane]

Hi, I too am the eldest of five (me, girl, boy, girl, boy) As far as I know I'm the only CD'er of the bunch, have been since very young.

Be interesting to see what % of membership fall into this category.

Take care all

Penny

[ClaudiaDawn]

I am the youngest one in my family.

Hugs,

Claudia Dawn

[anda_mouse]

youngest of 3 kids here. only crossdresser in family that i know of.

[Susan Dee]

Me too.

Oldest, of three.

[Denise01]

Youngest of 2 here, and Only Boy,

Sis did not know of my being TG

Denise:):):)

[Jaydee]

I hope it's not to late to jump into this thread. I am the oldest of two boys, and left handed to boot.

It may also be interesting to note that the vast majority of military pilots are first born males.

Jaydee

[Jaclyn NM]

Well, I'm the middle child, and the youngest male, and I'm the crossdresser, so I'm not too sure that there is any pattern. I think it's just the way we're wired. But anyway, who cares, since I love being a crossdresser!

[Leanne2]

I am number five in our family of eight children. My parents had four boys and then stopped for four years. Then they tried for a sister but had me instead. They didn't know how close they came to having a girl.
Two years later they had my little sister. Four years later they tried for another girl but had a boy. Then two years later that tried for the last time but had my baby brother. So out of eight children they had only one girl, and one girl wannabe, me. I'm pretty sure that I am the only transgender child in the bunch. Our life was much like the Walton's on TV. I wonder about those boys. Leanne

[tina2007]

oldest of 7..:)
tina

[Jacquilynne]

I'll add my info into this interesting post :)

I am the oldest of 3! (me, brother, then sister) Interesting fact we are all almost exactly 13 mo's apart :)

I am also a lefty and an Artist!

Hope this add some good data to this fun post :)

[lisalove]

I'm the 3rd oldest boy of the family. Only my sister is younger than me. My second oldest brother died of Luekimia when I was too young to know I had another brother, so I'll never know if he would have turned out to be a CD aswell.

[Charla McBee]

Youngest of three here, though I'm the only boy.

[Gennifer]

I am the oldest of two boys. My younger brother, and best friend, is gay.

[reginaNJ1]

Youngest and only Cder of two boys although I do have a photo of my dad dressed up as a girl for a fancy dress party back in the 50s.Intriguing.Dont think there's any real connection though because I began dressing as a 4 yo before seeing this photo.

Pattie:o
I had almost the same situation as you, except that I am the oldest and my father was a crossdresser. I to started to dress at around 8 before I knew he was a cd.
I use to accidentialy see him in panties and shaving his legs. Later on I found out when I was playing in the attic and found part of his stash.

I do feel that cross dressing and transgender is somehow at least in part inherited

[AndreaCD1963]

I am the oldest of 3 boys ... and the only cd as far as I know

[suchacutie]

I'm an only child...right handed male...left handed female.

the trend here is fascinating.

tina

[SarahLynn]

i'm suppose to be in the middle but may actually be the oldest. Don't really know for sure. And i'm ambdrextrious (sp) too.

SarahLynn

[Susan.]

Oldest -- with 2 younger sisters. Left handed

[Slip Affinity]

Yep .. it fits me. I'm the oldest and only boy in our family but I do have a younger sister.

[lesley jay]

What a relief now i can blame my parents for me being different as i am the eldest son.i had better keep an eye on my eldest son.LOL.

[Nadia-Maria]

I organized in the past a poll about birth order in the thread quoted below.

You can see my interpetations in the thread, and for instance in the #93 post in it.


http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82380&page=4

I revisited such polls about birth order, a few weeks ago, and I led a comprehensive thread about it.
The discussions and conclusions are issued on my Flickr's group (700 members) : "Knowing about crossdressing : interpretations - facts - results"

http://www.flickr.com/groups/knowing-about_cding/

To make it short.
. Obviously "an only child" and "a first born" have not the same meaning.

. There exists a definite trend. However it is a slight trend.

. When comparing first born to last born in a family or 2 or more than 2 childs the ratio is 60% first born vs. 40% last born. The difference is small, yet statistically significant. Such results are repeatable by further polls.

. I showed why this result is of theoretical importance.

For serious discussing about such a subject - and other ones - I invite you to come and see what we are currently publishing in our group.

[Ashlee]

I've heard that x out of 100 are CD'ers and that people with stressful jobs tend to be CD'ers vs. those of non-stressful jobs. I often wonder when I see people if they CD or not. I do constantly look for tell-tale signs. Anyway as for the thread....

I can tell you I'm the oldest of 2 siblings and I do have a very stressful and very macho job. I do feel relieved though when I become Ashlee and all of the stress melts away for that time.

[Jannette H]

I am the oldest of seven, One brother and five sisters. My mother thought that when I was younger I might be cross dressing. So when I told her about 10 years ago she wasn't surprised.:love:

[Ediosa]

Youngest of seven. 5 boys, 2 girls. Only one who is tg. right handed, and I use to have a stressful job.

[Angel.Marie76]

I'm the oldest of two boys.. This is fairly interesting to hear about.. they say so many things though about 'the firstborns' though..

[Emma1976]

Mmm, oldest of four boys and the only one to cd as far as I know.

[Kate Lynn]

I have never heard that but,I am the oldest,my birth mom had three sons with her second husband,my dad had one son and one daughter with my step mom,as far as I know I'm the only one who is like this.

I never knew the other three my birth mom had with husband number 2,and as for my step brother and sister,what about them.

[Lacelover]

Oldest of three boys. The only one that I Know of.
Lacelover

[Meg East]

There are three of us and I am the oldest. Yes my work is stressfull.

[Sarah C.]

Well, I'm the youngest of 4, so the theory doesn't hold up for me. As for the stressful job, no luck there either - I started crossdressing about 14 years before my first full-time job!

[Nancy Richards]

Just like Tracy, I am the oldest male of the oldest male of the oldest male, there the chain stops.

Nancy

[LOVE2]

i to am the oldest i have cd since i was very young and now at 45 i steal do would not have it any other way

[Felicia]

I am the youngest of three boys. I guess I am the girl my Mom always wanted. I have dressed on and off since I was preteen.

[yvonne10]

I am the oldest of 4 boys

[Cary]

Well that explains it! I'm 35 and the oldest boy.

[MeaganDee]

Certianly not in my case... youngest here

[PretzelGirl]

I have come to a statistical conclusion. If you title a thread "Has anybody heard of the oldest boy in the family being the most likely to crossdress" more of the oldest boy in the family memebers will enter the thread and reply than other members. :D

[Nadia-Maria]

Sue, you may be right, yet former polls - differently worded - do show there is a real trend.


I organized in the past a poll about birth order in the thread quoted below.

(...)

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82380&page=4

I revisited such polls about birth order, a few weeks ago, and I led a comprehensive thread about it.

(...)


. When comparing first born to last born in a family or 2 or more than 2 childs the ratio is 60% first born vs. 40% last born.
(...)



More information in my quoted post.

[audreycd]

I'm the oldest of 4

[denns61]

I think there's more to it than just being the oldest. If you've read much about the dynamics of dysfunctional families you've probably heard about the oldest child as being the overperformer, the one who tries to make the screwed up family look OK.

I've always wondered if the incredible pressure this child feels along with a poor male role model makes the female role more attractive in getting away from having to be the hero and instead going with the soft, attractive, love me please female role.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it applies to me anyway.

[KathrynTX]

Interesting. I happen to be the oldest of my dad's children. However, without a proper study, I don't think one can say for sure whether this is necessarily so.

[morgan51]

i'm the oldest child also

[Raychel]

I am the oldest of 5, 3 boys, 2 girls.

When I told my mother she said that she thought my youngest brother likes to wear womens clothes also. So I guess that would totally blow that idea. :2c:

[danacd50]

Oldest of five....three boys and two girls...

[Pauline Lauren]

I don't know if this confirms the trend I see here or not. I am an only child, so while I am the oldest, I guess I am the youngest too. I think I saw the "oldest child" thing somewhere too. I wonder if there was ever any study with regards to only children! >>>hugs<<< Pauline

[phoebe61]

This is an intresting theory:daydreaming:,never heard before.
but i am also the oldest boy 2 older sisters and a 6years younger half brother

[josie_S]

HMM...I always wondered if 'the theory' went the other way around? But since I'm the youngest of three boys, I guess I was looking at it from a ME point of view LOL

[josie_S]

Third born male of four, so not fitting with the idea which Leah was quoting.

However I found a paper from the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry Vol. 38, No. 5. pp. 543-551. 1997 By Prof. Kenneth Zucker and others titled "Sibling Sex Ratio of Boys with Gender Identity Disorder" with a different conclusion, that does square up with my own situation.

I'll quote from the abstract:

"Sibling sex ratio (the ratio of brothers to sisters) was calculated for 444 boys with gender identity disorder (or with behaviors consistent with this diagnosis)." using data "from several researchers with expertise with this disorder and from the English language case report literature between 1938 and 1995". This suggested that "Among the probands with at least
one sibling, the results showed that boys with gender identity disorder had a significant excess of brothers to sisters, 131.1:100, when compared with the expected secondary sex ratio of 106:100. The excess of brothers replicated a previous study by Blanchard, Zucker, Bradley, and Hume (1995), in which the sibling sex ratio was 140.6:100. Further analyses showed that the probands were born later relative to their brothers than
they were relative to their sisters."


So.......who is correct? Are these two points of view incompatible? It seems so to me
:2c:
Ann Rosa

p.s Perhaps the "let out clause" in reconciling these two views comes in that Leah's is talking about cross-dressing per se, and the study by Zucker et. al is about those with "Gender Identity Disorder". Maybe someone would clarify if cross dressing always implies G.I.D or not. I suspect the answer is "not" :idontknow:

AHA! (note to self: read ENTIRE thread before commenting)

[Joy3]

Oldest here also.

Joy

[Amy Lynn3]

I'm the youngest of four. Two boys and two girls. My older brother calls me Rachael, can't figure why.

[Aubrey Green]

I am the No. 2 son of three boys and a younger sister. My older brother is a poster child for Jeff Foxworthy's Redneck jokes. My younger brother with hair in ponytail and ZZ Top beard looks like he has been on tour with the Grateful Dead for the last 20 years. So go figure, it is just hard to say. :daydreaming:

[Barbara B]

Oldest of six here, 2 boys, 4 girls also a lefty.

[Beth Wilde]

Oldest of 2 (younger sister) just to keep the trend going.....

[Teddie]

I'm an only.

[Michelle I]

The youngest of 16 (yes sixteen :D), 9 girls 7 boys

[dawnmarrie1961]

I was the middle child of seven children. But now that I think about it,my oldest bother did grow his hair long back in the sixties. I thought it was just a hippie thing. And he did steal some of my sister's birth control pills. I thought he was just trying to get high back then ,I didn't know what they were for. And he always called me names like "fag" and "pussy". Maybe it was because he was himself suffering from somekind of inner conflicts.

Unfortunately he died in a motor cycle accident many years ago. So I can't ask him. But before he passed away we were very close. He was the best man at my wedding. I really miss him.

[Kerrie Sifton]

I do have 4 sisters, but I am the oldest boy.
Mind you I was somewhat premature, they say that has an influence as well.

[frederica13]

I am the oldest!

[claire2454]

hi well i am the middle child of three so no i dont think that is right.
i have an older brother and younger sister (both know i dress). just say they both dont mind that i dress as a woman.
so stay true to yourselfs lol claire xx

:love:

[Kimmy55]

I'm the second from the oldest of a 2 brothers,one sister family and the only cd'er:battingeyelashes:

[madison lee]

In my family it is girl boy boy girl. I'm the third born child of 4 kids. There is also the deal from psychologists that one out of three kids in a family will be gay. Now I am straight and have no urges to be with a man. And as far as I know my brother and sisters are straight as well. So where does that leave us?

[Karen564]

Hi everybody, I'm new here and was reading something on a website a while back where this guy said that its usually the oldest son out of the kids who is most likely to crossdress. Well, I am the oldest son out of 5 kids in my family. I have 3 sisters and 1 brother, I am the oldest of all 5 kids. I started dressing when I was around 11 years old and still dress to this day. I am now 36 years old and can't seem to stop. I don't remember what website I was on, but I thought it was pretty interesting that he mentioned the oldest son being the most likely. He hit the nail right on the head for me.

Leah

Here's another interesting study for yeah...


http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?aid=53879


Birth order and ratio of brothers to sisters in transsexuals

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RICHARD GREEN a1c1
a1 Gender Identity Clinic, Department of Psychiatry, Imperial College, School of Medicine, Charing Cross Hospital, London, UK

Abstract

Background. As previous studies with homosexual males have revealed a later birth order, more older brothers and more brothers than sisters, this research was extended to a large series of transsexual males and females, some of whom are homosexual.

Methods. The male sample comprised 442 male-to-female transsexuals, subdivided by sexual partner preference: 106 homosexual, 135 heterosexual, 155 bisexual and 46 asexual. One hundred female-to-male transsexuals were also studied: 75 homosexual, 16 bisexual, seven heterosexual and five asexual. Birth order was computed by both Slater's Index and Berglin's Index.

Results. Homosexual male-to-female transsexuals have a later than expected birth order and more older brothers than other subgroups of male-to-female transsexuals. Each older brother increases the odds that a male transsexual is homosexual by 40%.

Conclusions. Hypotheses explaining the extension of prior findings to this large sample of transsexual males include a progressive maternal immunization to the male foetus either through the H-Y antigen or protein-bound testosterone or alterations in foetal androgen levels in successive pregnancies, all modifying male psychosexual development. Data on the sexual orientation of younger brothers of homosexual male transsexuals in this study are not consistent with the progressive immunization hypothesis.

For myself, I am the youngest of 3 children..:battingeyelashes:

My sister is the oldest, and my brother is 12 years older than me..and they both have no gender issues what so ever..
I grew up & lived as a hetro male.. But after SRS, I will be a hetro (or possibly Bi) Female..

[imarocker2]

Oldest of 3 here. Left handed too.

[reneedtg]

I'm the oldest...one each younger brother and sister.

[KandisTX]

I am the oldest in my family so maybe there is some truth to this ;)

Kandis:love::rose2:

[Kelle]

I am in the middle of two other brothers.

[Erica K.]

I have one older brother, no sisters.

[SuzanneS]

I'm the middle one out of two other brothers...neither of my brothers CD as far as I know, but my older one would be more accepting. My younger brother would be the first to think I was gay or something like that. I'm right handed also.

[cdbethany]

i am the only boy so technicly the oldest got 2 sisters

[trannie T]

I understand that the first born is quite often the oldest also.

[PetiteTonya]

:doh:

[Deidra Cowen]

I think this very subject came up before...we got all excited at discovering something interesting but then one of two of our smarter members came in and blew it all away with logic and math.

I did a quick forum search wading thru about 15 pages but am too lazy to keep looking for that thread! LOL Anyway yeap I am the oldest and have siblings but since this part of the forum is open to google don't want to say too much more about private family stuff that might help someone figure out who I am.

[wetlook crossdresser]

Being the middle child of five of us, two older brothers and two younger sisters, I often wondered if that had some bearing on my being given a twisted blend of mostly male traits (between the legs, thick hair all over, manly voice) but some female traits as well (large breasts, soft shoulders, shapely legs, and sensitivity and strong feelings) Go finger. I guess I'm the exception to convention here and my brothers are just all time regular guys.
Cheers!:brolleyes:
Chris

[JustAlex]

It's hard to get reliable statistics for a thing that's usually kept in secret. But besides that, it seems unlikely. The oldest male in the pack tends to be the dominant Alpha.

I'm not the case anyway since I'm the middle of three males.
Unless my older brother is a CD and still in the closet... (nah!... can't be... I would have noticed if he were wearing the same mom's undies that I did :lol:)

[Angie F]

1 brother, older...2 sisters, 1 older, 1 younger, I'm the 3rd child and the youngest boy......so much for theory huh? lol

[Sweet Jane]

i'm the eldest......

[Sherry-Stephanie]

Only child adopted at birth so that makes me the oldest the youngest as well as the msot screwed up....so I fit nicely thanks you...

[Sylvermane]

dunno if theres any legitimate proof to the theory but i know it applies to me, pretty sure my younger brother doesn't.

[tanya-uk]

Oldest of 3.....:eek:

[NathalieX66]

I am the oldest boy in my extended family. I have an older sister from marriage one, and a younger brother from marriage two of my dad.

[victoriamwilliams1]

I am the oldest as well! hum they may have something.

[Kim Grace]

I'm the only child:(

[Rikkicn]

I've hear every theory there is and there is nothing to indicate that any of them are true.
We are just who we are!

[Frédérique]

Has anybody heard of the oldest boy in the family being the most likely to crossdress


I’m the youngest of the family, but the only boy*. In fact, I’m the only boy in this entire branch of my family tree. Right now I’m sawing that branch off while I’m standing on it…:heehee:

*You may want to look into that other “theory” about having older sisters…

[KristinSkye]

Another oldest boy (and oldest child) here. I wish we could create a poll on here to see the results of all of these pages :/ I'm so curious.

[Penelope Marie]

Like so many other so called studies i doubt this has any thing at all to do with CDing or T/S . i am not the oldest. i have a older sister. older brother, then me and two younger brothers. i also am a south paw, lefty.

[ArleneRaquel]

I'm the oldest of two boys and as far I was know the only one that dresses enfemme. :eek::biteme:

[StevieCD]

Youngest of 3 boys. I am the only cd that I know of. I am also the only one to not get married.

[Kelle]

I'm the middle one of three boys.

[Girly Sara]

I'm the eldest in our family.

Sara xxx

[sarah1992]

I'm the oldest male and oldest child but I don't think any of my brothers dress maybe this research is true to some extent...

[Faith_G]

Middle. 3 sisters, 1 brother (eldest). He does not crossdress.

[Fab Karen]

These wild theories aren't worth wasting time on. It's called coincidence. Youngest child of the family if you must know.

[Karen564]

These wild theories aren't worth wasting time on. It's called coincidence. Youngest child of the family if you must know.

I Concur...

Total waste of time...and I'm the youngest of 3 siblings..the others have no TG issues what so ever..

[Lady Katherine]

I am the oldest of three boys in the family and have been enjoying how I look as a girl -- and now a woman -- since age 11. And like several other girls here, I am also a lefty. Not sure what a scientific survey would say though!

[Gerard]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_sexual_orientation
There is research that suggests the opposite on chances of men being gay if the have older brothers.

Anything is possible, but you'd need to do a lot of research on a subject that a lot of people are very secretive about, so it's going to be hard to get any real statistics.

[NikkiBeth]

I am the oldest of 2 boys. Pretty sure my bro is not like me, as we are the exact opposite in every way.

[Brianna in Hose]

I am the youngest of two boys. Also my father is a pantyhose wearer and heel wearer. I am not sure if he is a full crossdresser or not.

[RADER]

I am the oldest (62) and a cross dresser since I was mabe 5 or 6.
BUT my younger brother hit the family a few years ago with a total sex change. It so schocked the family so much that I am still afraid to tell him or anybody else that I crossdress at home. My wife is OK with it as long as I stay in agreed boundrys. I know him, he would most likley put up a bill-board in front of my house.

[Susan.]

I am the oldest in my family. Also, I am lefthanded.

I have 2 younger sisters.

Although, I did have an older brother but he passed away when I was a preschooler.

[Monica93304]

Im the oldest and a lefty...

[AliceSandra]

I am the oldest of 4 siblings.

[Lisa Catherine]

I'm the oldest of 3, 2 younger sisters,.....hmmmmmmmm.... just thinking, and that can be dangerous!:daydreaming:

[donnatracey]

Well, I'm the oldest of 3 (only one who tried mom's dresses/lipstick!) so I agree with this theory......and glad I did!....:heehee:

[Ashley0000]

Im the oldest, with 2 little sisters. Funny how things play out

[Pretty In Pink]

Interesting thread. I am a righty and the oldest of two boys.

~PIP

[Sara Ann]

Only child.

[sami1952]

i'm a middle child.

[Jackiesexycd]

oldest of 3 male children no girls. as far as i know im the only crossdresser. also only lefty. i wonder how many of us are lefties compared to the rest of society?

I'm also a lefty and the oldest of 6 children (5 boys).

[Myojine]

Hi everybody, I'm new here and was reading something on a website a while back where this guy said that its usually the oldest son out of the kids who is most likely to crossdress. Well, I am the oldest son out of 5 kids in my family. I have 3 sisters and 1 brother, I am the oldest of all 5 kids. I started dressing when I was around 11 years old and still dress to this day. I am now 36 years old and can't seem to stop. I don't remember what website I was on, but I thought it was pretty interesting that he mentioned the oldest son being the most likely. He hit the nail right on the head for me.

Leah

im the oldest son and i crossdress and i am actually a girl on the inside.
i was 4 years old and i was found in the girls section of walmart saying
"mommy can i have this?" holding onto a church dress.

[renneeists]

I'm the oldest of my siblings
So far as I know I'm the only crossdresser, but the baby boy and his wife do group sex. Would hate to see her naked!!!!

[ginat]

I am the middle child of 3 and the only boy.

[Zoiq]

Another Middle Child, of 3 brothers.

[sue ellan]

i'm the oldest one in our family. i have a brother and a sister and both are stright. go figure

sue ellan

life is like a roll of tp the closer to the end the faster it goes.

[Jennifer Silverstone]

Youngest of three boys, eldest is twelve years older than me, the next is two years older. Neither of the other two CD to the best of my knowledge. As to the youngest boy being gay, well I class myself as Lesbian, if that counts...

[Taylor186]

I am the youngest of two boys. No signs of crossdressing from my older brother.

[Aska]

Cond child older sister younger half sister and younger half brother. Oldest boy and been trying on clothes since I was about 11. Also helps that mom and sister raised me

[Ann Thomas]

Youngest of two, right handed; older brother does not CD. Dad was a CD, and only child, left handed. My son is oldest of two, right handed, and CDs.

Wish I knew more family history, as I suspect it's genetic, but from which family line I don't know.

[angpai30]

I am 3rd to youngest and I have 7 siblings 1 sister and 7 brothers with my sister being the oldest. My oldest brother is not a cder; I am the only crossdresser that I know of in my family. I am also right handed as well as my father. The only left hander in my family is my brother that is above me in the family tree.

Hannah~~

[JessicaS]

I am the oldest out of the entire family, all the way out to 3rd cousins.

[Kaitlin the cd]

Im the oldest in my family.