Pent up something!

[Misty is Kindafem]

I've noticed this since my second visit as a lurker. I never really thought about anger or hostility, but I did find it very interesting that the straight white male patriarchy was alive and well on CD.com:D

I have to admit that one of the main reasons I lurked for so long is because part of my struggle is understanding my sexuality (faaabulous!) and I didn't feel like I belonged in a forum where the majority of girls are married to real girls and fly their straight flag every chance they get.

Look, I don't have any problem with straight people (there's really nothing wrong with it) but I know there's at least a few other girls like me on this board, they're just a little quieter. Don't get me started on the Alpha males around here.

The real problem is the ... the self hate. There I said it. So many of the regulars are so oppressed by their lives and wives that they come on here and affect this faux femininity because it's the only place they can feel free. Virtually free. Some girls literally bubble out of their closets with these weird asides (tee hee, blushes, giggles) and it makes this place take on a strange Disneyfied kind of feel. Real women just don't talk the way we present ourselves on this board half the time. You don't need to remind me that I'm not a real woman either honey, but it seems like we're all so afraid of offending the all powerful SO's that we've become G rated cartoons of ourselves.

Pent up anger? How about pent up sexual energy? Many girls have admitted this is the only place they go when dressed. How can you not be sexually charged when dressed to the nines? That's hot! I dress up and play on my webcam sometimes and I flirt with dozens of men and I loooove it!
If this forum was the only release I had for my wonderful feminine energy then I would probably be threatening to break your arm if you gave me a hug too.

Thankfully there are some incredible and inspirational girls on here (some have boyfriends, yes you mentioned that honey, ...bitch) and some have wives but they are very real and they are why I finally joined. I also want to help give a voice to the other queers like me and to have at least one more tiny freak flag waving in the testosterone breeze that sometimes blows through here.

If we can't be open and honest here, then where?

[Terrihoney]

As one of the many straight males that have a femme side that needs to get out and about once in awhile, welcome to the forum!
I don't tee hee or giggle much, but...

Hugs, Terri

[Miranda-E]

If we can't be open and honest here, then where?

Be honest in the world
You have to view these sites as entertainment only. Its a parody, and personal vision of what CD's should be rather then the real world. Male SO's aren't really welcome here, their presence impedes the personal vision.

[Sheila]

Be honest in the world
Male SO's aren't really welcome here, their presence impedes the personal vision.

??????????? I do believe that you have that wrong hun ..... this is a site for all TG's their family and friends :)

[Shelly Preston]

Be honest in the world
You have to view these sites as entertainment only. Its a parody, and personal vision of what CD's should be rather then the real world. Male SO's aren't really welcome here, their presence impedes the personal vision.

Every SO is welcome as are friends and family

We are here for the support of all not just one particular group

[curse within]

As a Alpha male, that you may or may not be reffering to I would like to welcome you to the forum. I agree many do fly the straight flag here as I am very quilty of that but then again others do fly the gay flag.. Nothing wrong with that.


It took me awhile to understand that gays do crossdress ( I am still sorta new to this ) Through all my reading and desire to need and want understanding as to why I like to dress, I have stumbled upon some interesting reading, one stating that gays do not tend to xdress( whole different topic)... So in being honest I think you may have touched on something that has a valid point.

Speaking for myself and through years of supression I stired clear of any gays , I didn't want it tied into my dressing. It is popular belief that one is gay to be a crossdresser.. Stupid I know but the reality of it is there, too bad huh? Now I want to make it clear I have no problems with gay people!! So keep your unwanted comments about that to yourself because that is far from the truth.

I will say I feel that my dressing and the fear of soceity linking it to me being gay has placed a homophobia tag on me.. Here and only here has proved that fear as just that a fear and until soceity see's it as the truth then that fear remains.. So in trying to be honest on here as only got me in trouble ,I feel that there are very few like me that come here as it shows most here are accepting and wish to become the fantacey they protray themselves as female. I know what I am and I have every right to fight it , but as I have learned long ago this is not the place to do that.

So what I have tried to do was gather others who feel as I do with out the pros to xdressing raining on my threads , but without support thet will never happen.

[Kerrie Sifton]

I am not sure where you are going with this Misty. So many of the the individuals here are at very different states in the recognition of their identity and discovering where they are mentally, physically and sexually.
There is such a broad spectrum and each of us fits in somewhere. Being feminine, being flirty and enjoying the dressing can be so different, and alot of it depends upon your particular situation, your friends and family and the opportunity to express oneself.

But thanks for prompting the discussion.

[Sheila]

I
I have to admit that one of the main reasons I lurked for so long is because part of my struggle is understanding my sexuality (faaabulous!) and I didn't feel like I belonged in a forum where the majority of girls are married to real girls and fly their straight flag every chance they get.

Don't get me started on the Alpha males around here.

You don't need to remind me that I'm not a real woman either honey, but it seems like we're all so afraid of offending the all powerful SO's that we've become G rated cartoons of ourselves.

Thankfully there are some incredible and inspirational girls on here (some have boyfriends, yes you mentioned that honey, ...bitch) and some have wives but they are very real and they are why I finally joined. I also want to help give a voice to the other queers like me and to have at least one more tiny freak flag waving in the testosterone breeze that sometimes blows through here.

wow ............ firstly .......... I like the alpha males on here ............... and one of them very ,very much:D

secondly the stright males on here are not usualyy flaunting their sexuality, they are generally responding to the heartfelt cry of a GG who on discovering the partner is a CDER, wonders if they are gay .. Curses within herself said
Speaking for myself and through years of supression I steered clear of any gays , I didn't want it tied into my dressing., ....so therefore if a CDER themselves fear connection to homosexuality and dressing then is it not reasonable to assume a new SO asks the question.

Trust me hun the GG's on here do not feel very powerful at all ............. but I am damned if I will let a majority run riot over our small minority ............ I will stand up for my beliefs and those of others if I feel they are being made a mockery off or are being attacked unfairly ..... hell the F2M's are in an even smaller minority here, and many are even more reluctant than the GG's to venture into this part of the forum:Angry3: that should not be so:sad:

I have throught my life had several same sex friends ...... I don't have a problem with anybodyies sexuality ................ whether someone is hetrosexual, homosexual. lesbain or Bi-sexual or asexual, or any descript I have left out ........... att he end of the day they are human beings and that is what counts surely

[Joni Marie Cruz]

Who you callin' straight? And, btw, I don't giggle, I titter.

-Joni Mari

[Violetgray]

I'm not sure I fully understand your post. But I will say that sure, this board does seem to be straight male dominated, but that to an extent, that just reflects the mainstream. More straight males are on this board because more straight males are crossdressers. If half of all crossdressers were gay, I think that the boards would reflect that.

You speak of self hate, and I'm sure there are some examples on this board somewhere, but I'm not sure that I understand how you say it manifests? Giggles and Blushes? What does that have to do with self hate?

I do agree that there is sometimes a sense of affected femininity here, however.

[Misty is Kindafem]

Who you callin' straight? And, btw, I don't giggle, I titter.

-Joni Mari

I wasn't talking about anyone specifically, just the whole, um zeitgeist if you will.

...and Joni, if I had just a third of your courage I would live a completely different life. You ARE one of the inspirational girls I was talking about. You F'n ROCK.

-Misty

[Joni Marie Cruz]

Jeeze, Misty. You sure know how to butter up a girl. And ya know what, I have always been curious about that phrase, it just conjures up so many, umm, interesting images. Wanna be pals? And for what my opinion is worth, perhaps a large tub of butter substitute, I think you'll actually like it here, it's a pretty cool place. Gonna go warm up some butter now, it's rec time.

Hugs...Joni Mari




I wasn't talking about anyone specifically, just the whole, um zeitgeist if you will.

...and Joni, if I had just a third of your courage I would live a completely different life. You ARE one of the inspirational girls I was talking about. You F'n ROCK.

-Misty

[Misty is Kindafem]

Violet said -
Giggles and Blushes? What does that have to do with self hate? I do agree that there is sometimes a sense of affected femininity here, however

I say, Violet you are so damn pretty I hate you.

I also say, the self hate pushes people into places so dark that the tiniest glimpse of light will cause an intense blooming. The effort to feel as feminine as possible is so profound that you actually see it. The effort becomes obvious and in this case that effort includes (giggles & blushes). I'm not criticizing those that make parenthetical remarks (lord knows I've made a few) I'm just saying that ... oh hell I don't really know what I'm saying. Something about being scared of ourselves and cartoon femininity. I can't remember.

-Misty

Joanne said-
Hello Misty, and welcome, i think that you need a few more than two visit`s to judge the people on here and what they stand for. Most do not fly under any flag as they are not judgemental and we are a very mixed bunch.

and I said,

I'd been lurking for nearly three months before I finally joined so I think I had a pretty good feel for the group. It was my initial impression that kept me away. But you are right of course, and it's the girls you describe that gave me a reason to come back and eventually the desire to join them.

-Misty

[MissConstrued]

Don't get me started on the Alpha males around here.



The Alpha males aren't the ones threatened or bothered by gays.

It's kind of ironic, too. Some "straight" guys will get their hackles up, and talk about punching out any guy who might hit on them. But how would they like it if every woman who didn't want their attention beat them up?

[Sarah Doepner]

Misty,

I'm wondering if some of the proclaimations of "I'm a Straight Crossdresser" you see here are maybe that first step toward acceptance and away from the self-hate so many of us feel when attempting to come to terms with our gender issues. Some of it may also be a flag to lend specificity or credibility to our questions or responses regarding heterosexual relationship issues. I hope I haven't posted anything that falls into that questionable zietgeist you mention. I thought I learned long ago that crossdressing runs roughshod over us regardless of sex or sexual orientation.

As far as "Alpha Males" go, I can't seem to identify any here. There are some strong personalities and folks who are very good at what they do. If I had a question on makeup, I'd go to the Alpha Makeup gal, Karren and if it was a dress issue I'd drop a line to Alpha Dress gal, Marla. I'd suggest not to read more into some of the posts than are actually there, sit back and enjoy the ride.

[Joni Marie Cruz]

That's not funny. It's happened to me lots of times.<sob>

Hugs...Joni Mari



But how would they like it if every woman who didn't want their attention beat them up?

[Karren H]

Maybe its just gas?? I get that a lot... Pent up gas bloated feeling. Often mistaken for pent up anger or pent up sexuality? Beats me.. Gas-X works good!! :)

Ohhh and the only thing I every get pent up is.... Shopping energys.. Yeah.. Don't get between me and a clearence rack of dresses!! Lol.

[VeronicaMoonlit]

I'm not sure I fully understand your post.

:iagree:


I do agree that there is sometimes a sense of affected femininity here, however.

:iagree: That's right, sweetie/honey/hon/hun/sugah/darlin my purple wearing LARPing nerdypooh. Tee hee, giggle. I am soooo naughty.


Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.

[Lorileah]

I wanna fly a flag. :( Why do only straights and gays get flags? I wanna Princess flag.

and I wanna be alpha male once. As they say unless you are the lead dog the view never changes.

But I get your point. Maybe because I take things too literally sometimes. It does get annoying when someone says "hey I might want to date/flirt with a guy" and eleventeen people go "eeeeww never I am straight" or my favorite "I am a lesbian in a man's body." Somehow a straight lesbian seems an oxymoron. BTW, check your plumbing...you ain't a lesbian :brolleyes:

I like that Disneyland reference. And I agree. Sometimes I see the sign "you have to be this messed up to post here." I don't know about the pent up sexual thing though. I think I have become asexual...maybe I'll be going through fission soon. Just what this forum needs, two of me. :) Many people admit to come here dressed (your words) because for some reason they still think they are abnormal. Thousands of posts trying to get "us" to start thinking we are "ok" and we keep kicking ourselves in the (you choose the anatomy).

Gay crossdressers are not the majority here. Gay crossdressers are a rare bird totally. For some reason gays like guys...go figure. But gay crossdressers have just as much to say here as us no-flag omega sissy males. :) Welcome! And PLEASE help us out with your point of view.

[kellycan27]

I will say I feel that my dressing and the fear of soceity linking it to me being gay has placed a homophobia tag on me.. Here and only here has proved that fear as just that a fear and until soceity see's it as the truth then that fear remains.. So in trying to be honest on here as only got me in trouble ,I feel that there are very few like me that come here as it shows most here are accepting and wish to become the fantacey they protray themselves as female. I know what I am and I have every right to fight it , but as I have learned long ago this is not the place to do that.



I don't see what the big deal is in regards to your fear that society may or may not think that you are gay. Why would you even care what some uninformed people think. Does not being gay lessen the impact that you have on society. He dresses in female clothing,but at least he isn't gay. My point is this... Those unaccepting types are not going to take the time to try and figure out if you are a str8 or gay crossdresser. Even if you wore a sign hanging around your neck proclaiming your str8ness, i seriously doubt that it would make a difference to those people.
It seems to me that your homophobia is of your own design, while you may not have anything against homosexuals, you are very quick to distance yourself from them. Which you have every right to do, as well as the right to proclaim your str8ness. You are not unlike the society that you blame for linking you to being gay because you crossdress.... Your predjudice is showing.
I always giggle when this sexual identity thing comes up.. What doe it matter especially in this forum. I don' think that there are many in here who really give a rat's butt what someones orientation is or isn't... except for maybe those who are unaccepting of another group..just like the people they whine about not accepting or thinking that they are perverts, and gays and child molesters. I truly think that sometimes some protest too much..:2c:

I am not singling you out, because it happens a lot ... I just think it's counter productive to the entire group.

[DianneRoberts]

Maybe its just gas?? I get that a lot... Pent up gas bloated feeling. Often mistaken for pent up anger or pent up sexuality? Beats me.. Gas-X works good!! :)

Ohhh and the only thing I every get pent up is.... Shopping energys.. Yeah.. Don't get between me and a clearence rack of dresses!! Lol.

Ben Franklin said "F*rt Proudly".


Every other Hockey player that I know does.............?......

But there again is another advantage to stockings over pantyhose.
If you do f@rt at least wearing stockings, your legs won't blow up.


Sorry, just had to say it..... my other 10% made me do it :facepalm:

[TSchapes]

I too tire of some of the alpha dog nonsense in here. I love to hear from other voices, that need to be heard. I got what you're talking about.

And...welcome...

Love, Tracy

[Bethany38]

Kelly,
you are as smart as you are beautiful, and I completely agree with... "I always giggle when this sexual identity thing comes up.. What doe it matter especially in this forum. I don' think that there are many in here who really give a rat's butt what someones orientation is or isn't... except for maybe those who are unaccepting of another group..just like the people they whine about not accepting or thinking that they are perverts, and gays and child molesters. I truly think that sometimes some protest too much..:2c: "

That is right along with what I was thinking. Thank you for saving my fingers some walking


Always Bethany:)

[curse within]

I don't see what the big deal is in regards to your fear that society may or may not think that you are gay. Why would you even care what some uninformed people think. Does not being gay lessen the impact that you have on society. He dresses in female clothing,but at least he isn't gay. My point is this... Those unaccepting types are not going to take the time to try and figure out if you are a str8 or gay crossdresser. Even if you wore a sign hanging around your neck proclaiming your str8ness, i seriously doubt that it would make a difference to those people.
It seems to me that your homophobia is of your own design, while you may not have anything against homosexuals, you are very quick to distance yourself from them. Which you have every right to do, as well as the right to proclaim your str8ness. You are not unlike the society that you blame for linking you to being gay because you crossdress.... Your predjudice is showing.
I always giggle when this sexual identity thing comes up.. What doe it matter especially in this forum. I don' think that there are many in here who really give a rat's butt what someones orientation is or isn't... except for maybe those who are unaccepting of another group..just like the people they whine about not accepting or thinking that they are perverts, and gays and child molesters. I truly think that sometimes some protest too much..:2c:

I am not singling you out, because it happens a lot ... I just think it's counter productive to the entire group.


Why??Let me first say I understand you not knowing why ,how could you ? I am not singling you out because it's a mis understanding for most.. Reason.. for MOST not all but most GG's the biggest fear is their CDer being gay..Bad thing if GG's are what you are into..Know what I mean?

So yeah big reason to blend the two..

[TGMarla]

Misty, I guess I'm not at all sure just what you're mad at. You seem to have some kind of resentment against straight people. I mean, so what if you're gay? There may not be a plurality of people just like you in every way on this forum, but really, I don't see anyone cracking on you over it, either. "White male patriarchy"?? Spare me. It's just a bunch of people being who they are, nothing more. I've not noticed anyone here climbing all over anyone else due to their sexual orientation. I may be a straight white male, but geez, I'm running around in a dress for crying out loud. Last I checked, that wasn't exactly conforming to the norm. Why don't you live and let live, and just do your best to bring whatever makes you unique to the forum just like everyone else here? We welcome others with open arms. You should do the same. If you feel that the femininity that is expressed here is somehow phony or contrived, try to remember that many who come in here feel that they are repressed in this respect in their everyday lives. That doesn't make them phonies or reflect a "faux femininity". It just means that they finally feel at liberty to express themselves. Sometimes it can be a bit much, but who cares? This place exists to allow them that outlet, just like you.

So welcome, come on in, make yourself at home, and please leave the bitterness out on the porch.

(Cool name, by the way. Misty....I like it.)

[kellycan27]

Why??Let me first say I understand you not knowing why ,how could you ? I am not singling you out because it's a mis understanding for most.. Reason.. for MOST not all but most GG's the biggest fear is their CDer being gay..Bad thing if GG's are what you are into..Know what I mean?

So yeah big reason to blend the two..

I really don't see your logic. You are not going to convince people en masse, it's going to have to done on a on an individual basis. Speaking out with regards to gays..especially in this arena is moot. It is absoultely your right to do so,but the only thing you are going to accomplish is to alienate people who are basically in the same boat as yourself. It's unfortunate that some in society are uninformed, but you can't fault the gay, or bi, or any other sexual orientation for that. You can't distance yourself from anyone as long as people stay unimformed...To be perfectly honest it sounds like your problem with gays isn't because of your fear of being linked, but more that you just don't like gay people....and once again, the reason for my saying this is because your arguement with regards to how gg's feel about cd'ers is illogical. If suddenly the only cd'ers on the entire planet were str8 , how would society even know? They'ed still be same uninformed bunch that they always were.

[curse within]

I really don't see your logic. You are not going to convince people en masse, it's going to have to done on a on an individual basis. Speaking out with regards to gays..especially in this arena is moot. It is absoultely your right to do so,but the only thing you are going to accomplish is to alienate people who are basically in the same boat as yourself. It's unfortunate that some in society are uninformed, but you can't fault the gay, or bi, or any other sexual orientation for that. You can't distance yourself from anyone as long as people stay unimformed...To be perfectly honest it sounds like your problem with gays isn't because of your fear of being linked, but more that you just don't like gay people....and once again, the reason for my saying this is because your arguement with regards to how gg's feel about cd'ers is illogical. If suddenly the only cd'ers on the entire planet were str8 , how would society even know? They'ed still be same uninformed bunch that they always were.

This concerns me how?

Thats all I have to say.. You see say the word GAY!!! or use it in a sentence makes someone out to be anti for people like you..Please re read what I wrote then ponder your pitty else where I said nothing wrong..

Thanks for your response..

[battybattybats]

I wanna fly a flag. :( Why do only straights and gays get flags? I wanna Princess flag.


There are transgender flags
http://flagspot.net/flags/qq-tgf.html

[kellycan27]

I am merly trying to say that distancing yourself from gay people as you yourself stated with the reason being that you don't want to be linked to gays via crossdressing doesn't make sense. gay crossdressers are not what you should have an issue with.. it's the uninformed that you seem to feel lump the two together. How is distancing yourself from gays going to change society's view of crossdressers? You absoultely said nothing wrong. My opinion that you don't like gays is just that, my opinion ok. That being said, can you please clear this up for me and simply answer the question.

[battybattybats]

Actually folks we may have to embrace the gays entirely as a subset- of transgender! http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108815

As crossdressers or not they appear to have partly female brains making them transgender. So rather than CDs being Gay, CDs and non-CDing gays are both TG.

[Misty is Kindafem]

Misty, I guess I'm not at all sure just what you're mad at. You seem to have some kind of resentment against straight people. "White male patriarchy"?? Spare me. I may be a straight white male, but geez, I'm running around in a dress for crying out loud.If you feel that the femininity that is expressed here is somehow phony or contrived, try to remember that many who come in here feel that they are repressed in this respect in their everyday lives. That doesn't make them phonies or reflect a "faux femininity". It just means that they finally feel at liberty to express themselves. Sometimes it can be a bit much, but who cares? This place exists to allow them that outlet, just like you.

(Cool name, by the way. Misty....I like it.)

Thanks Marla for the compliment on my name (it's like mister, but different) and also for calling me out. meow!

I feel like I have to say that you're misunderstanding me. I love you girls, you are my sisters each and every one of you. My little mini rant was an indictment of the world we live in and the forces that push us underground, not the beautiful souls that inhabit this forum. (the wine makes my prose a little flowery) I'm disappointed in a world where a perfectly intelligent creature is reduced to typing the word giggles because that's her only outlet for the little girl that was never allowed to see the sun. I'm saddened by a world that makes a gorgeous genetic man feel like he must yell his love for vaginas lest he be seen as something less than, ...less than I'm not sure what would be considered less than a crossdresser in this awful world. I understand all of it. I've lived it. My only critique of this group is we can't allow this prejudiced world to creep into our sisterhood. We are all men and we all wish to be something different. I didn't say women, I said something different. I've been rejected by girlfriends AND boyfriends because I like to wear heels and makeup and wigs and yadda yadda. I love being sexy and I try to be pretty and in that regard, we are all alike. I know bitches like me (and sweet wonderful Kelly) are dangerous to the married girls. I've been married twice and I know firsthand how fragile the "accepting" situation can be. I know how an angry wife can scream "is that how you want to be!?" I know it's better for my straight sisters that I don't exist, but here I am. If you think it's hard to tell a woman, try telling a gay man. I know how self hate feels and what it can do to a person and a relationship. Most gay men HATE girls like me and most CD's hate girls like me too and the reason is the same for both. Because they just don't want the association. Where am supposed to go? Where is my SO? I truly didn't mean to offend anybody or start any fights, I was just making an observation. I'm certainly not mad at straight people (I just don't like seeing them making out. eeew, get a room)

Can't we all just get along?

-Misty


If suddenly the only cd'ers on the entire planet were str8 , how would society even know? They'ed still be same uninformed bunch that they always were.

Kelly,

I haven't said this to a girl in a loooong time but I think I love you. :hugs:

I want everyone to know that you and you alone were the sole reason I finally decided to join. I was on the fence for weeks (despite the adorable Gabrielle) and then you started telling your story about how you met your boyfriend. My heart literally melted for you. (okay maybe not literally but) I know that we would be great friends and I'm heartbroken that we don't live close enough to hang out. There are many strong, brilliant and inspirational girls here but you stand out as much for your beauty as for your strength. Your boyfriend is lucky and so are you to have found him. You could totally hug me and I wouldn't even try to break your arm.

I'll admit to the influence of a little wine, but that doesn't make anything I say less true.

-Misty

[Deedee Dupree]

Hello Misty,

Welcome to the forum. It would be very nice if you would stay a while... your point of view is needed here and we need all the assistance we can get to to keep the prejudice you speak of outside of the gates.

Be well, dd

[Lisa Golightly]

I want everyone to know that you and you alone were the sole reason I finally decided to join.

Yeah, she's a special one alright :) x

[kellycan27]

OMG! :eek: Thank you so much. What a nice compliment.
Kelly





Presh................Thank you too love.

[Lisa Golightly]

Presh................Thank you too love.

's alright baby... and I love you too in a girly 'ain't nothing funny about us' way... Just clarifying so some of the locals don't choke on their breakfast. :heehee:

Besides which... you ought to be in bed... not stalking the boards... *tsk*

[Bobbi Em]

Welcome Misty. Your Post was thought inducing. Your follow up Posts proved that you could Girl-Up. Hoping to hear more of your musings, which is how I took it.

No :-)'s or Smilies simply means that we have to read what you write, understand where you're coming from, and insert our own where we suspect that you would put them if you were that kind of girl.

I don't always like to think that hard!!!, but I'll sprinkle them liberally in because it makes for more gentle reading that way.

:tongueout ...Just to prove that I can.

Bobbi

[Shari]

Welcome Misty and thanks so much for such a refreshing post.

So many here take umbrage when the shoe fits properly. It's like the Jack Nicholson movie line, "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!"

You've ruffled some feathers and that's a good thing from time to time. So many are so completely caught up in themselves that they forget who they really are, while others repress the all too real feelings they live with every day. When reminded of who we really are, some strike like cornered cobras.

You've expressed opinions. That's all. There have been no personal attacks.
We need more free thinking individuals like yourself.

Once again, welcome.

[Nicki B]

Trust me hun the GG's on here do not feel very powerful at all ............. but I am damned if I will let a majority run riot over our small minority ............

You may not feel it, Sheila (and often with good reason) but it is very evident here that trans and cis-people are very strongly separated on these boards - it's not often someone doesn't make it very clear what they are, is it?

And there is often a view expressed that the cis-women are somehow better, for being 'real' women... :straightface: My view is that we are all people - how you identify shouldn't matter. We should ALL be entitled to the same respect and ability to post our opinions - it's only by our individual actions should we lose it..




I got what you're talking about.

:yt:

[Lisa Golightly]

And there is often a view expressed that the cis-women are somehow better, for being 'real' women... :straightface: My view is that we are all people - how you identify shouldn't matter. We should ALL be entitled to the same respect and ability to post our opinions - it's only by our individual actions should we lose it..

Very well put.

[Stephanie Stephens]

Welcome Misty: Loved your post and I am glad to hear someone wave the gay flag equally as loud as the straight flag. You are proving that equality does exist on this board. I (for one) believe that it is my bisexually that drives me to cross-dress. Happy that you are here and delighted that you do speak out.

[LisaM]

Hi Misty,

I loved your post--very thought provoking and it engendered a number of good responses.

I do see a lot of overly-girly responses and posts on this forum but I believe it is due to seriously repressed sexuality that most of us suffer through. I was at a gender conference this weekend (Chicago Be-All) and you see it in manyof the participants there--40 and 50 year olds going through their teenage years. I don't see anything wrong with it but it is not necessarily me.

Also, I'm married with an understanding SO but I am as far from an alpha male as you are. I find the sexual spectrum here to be wider than you do but maybe that is my perspective.

Anyway, welcome and I hope you continue to ask difficult questions and write though-provoking posts!

[karynspanties]

Misty, welcome to the forum.
I am not an alpha male. Never have been. I am transgendered. I am bisexual. My wife knows and supports this. I dress pretty much freely at home. I only have one kid left living at home and once he is gone, my wonderful wife has given me the green flag to dress whenever the need strikes. I do get a little miffed at some of the posts that I read here. I may ad a grin, thumbs up or an angery character from time to time. But I do not tee hee or anything like that. Atleast I don't think I do........wait a minute......I am having a blonde moment........ok I am back.

[cindym5_04]

I'm married to a wonderful GG, but I've been with guys before too. I put smiley faces, or "LOL"s or "hehehe"s at the end of some of the things I say, because I know I'm a sarcastic b*tch and I want to make sure that my sarcasm is taken as a joke at the time.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay, bi, or straight. Whatever your claim is, I say, wear it with pride. One thing we have in common- we all like to wear ladies clothes. Does it otherwise matter what our sexual preference is?

And by the way, yes, I do get sexually charged up when I dress. Then again, I'm pretty sexually charged in general too.

[Lorileah]

There are transgender flags
http://flagspot.net/flags/qq-tgf.html

Ewww Batty, we can make them prettier than that, how about a little lace on the edges?

[ruthie801]

Hi Misty I'm going to send you a private message

[Misty is Kindafem]

I can honestly say that I never thought my, um, thoughts would garner such a response. I have to admit that I was beginning to wonder if I would ever get out of here alive. :battingeyelashes:

I truly did not mean to offend anyone and I certainly didn't want anyone to self consciously avoid the cute smileys. What started out as musing (thanks Bobbi) about what causes fully grown gurls to say things like teehee (and not in an ironic or sardonic way) devolved into some sociopolitical argument about sexuality. At the root, I was mostly curious and wondering if anyone else felt the same. All of you will come to learn that my words are nothing but faux pearls and their value is simply what you agree to. Please don't take me too seriously, I have no sinister agenda, just a bag full of slightly bent opinions.

Having said that, my heart is overflowing with gratitude to those saucy bitches that understood and defended me. The private emails I got were so sweet and I feel totally satisfied that I joined up with all you crazy girls. At the end of the day ladies, we only have each other. No one else could possibly understand how we feel. They can love us, they can help us, they can f**k us, but they will never understand us.:drink:

Shari quoted Jack, and that reminded me of another great quote from him; "go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here".

-Misty

[Kate Lynn]

Maybe its just gas?? I get that a lot... Pent up gas bloated feeling. Often mistaken for pent up anger or pent up sexuality? Beats me.. Gas-X works good!! :)

Ohhh and the only thing I every get pent up is.... Shopping energys.. Yeah.. Don't get between me and a clearence rack of dresses!! Lol.

Karen if you use Beano you wont get that feeling any more.

[Deedee Dupree]

Great to hear someone say it like it is, and you have style....Faux pearls...love it.

See you around and here's a :rose: dd

[Misty is Kindafem]

Great to hear someone say it like it is, and you have style....Faux pearls...love it.

Thank you baby. I think a certain amount of style comes standard with the curse. You ever wonder who we pissed off in a past life?

-Misty

[Deedee Dupree]

Thank you baby. I think a certain amount of style comes standard with the curse. You ever wonder who we pissed off in a past life?

-Misty

I agree. Yes, who and maybe an Un-who<smile>, but who knows for sure? Maybe it's enough to be mindful that whatever deeds we do will all come back on us. So I figure If I keep that in mind I won't have to worry about who.

Additional thought: Just stepped out for a moment to pick up a subtle confection(snack) on "broadway", and was thinking some more about your question and I was wondering maybe we didn't piss 'em off at all. Maybe we did a good work and "this" is a little reward..... but one that may take some a few lifetimes to fully appreciate? :)

Best, dd

[Misty is Kindafem]

I was wondering maybe we didn't piss 'em off at all. Maybe we did a good work and "this" is a little reward..... but one that may take some a few lifetimes to fully appreciate?


Well Miss triple D, you are certainly calling the glass half full.

-Misty
More wine please, I'm down to a half glass.

[Misty is Kindafem]

And by the way, yes, I do get sexually charged up when I dress. Then again, I'm pretty sexually charged in general too.

Then again, you're just plain pretty.

I'm sorry but your avatar is F'n HOT. I would love to hit the clubs with you girl, the boys wouldn't stand a chance.

Your wife is lucky to have you, and especially since you swing both ways. I can only imagine what you naughty bitches get up to behind closed doors.

Some of you make me so jealous I can hardly stand it. ;-)

-Misty

[kellycan27]

I should have been more observant... You can't be honest here.. it was right in front of me all the time. You're a tricky little devil CW

[LA CINDY LOVE]

As a straight married male , the one thing that I have notice is that most of the so called straight males are so full of sh*t......they are so quick to call any male a fag....and they are not even a crossdressers.

LA CINDY LOVE

[Lorileah]

As a straight married male , the one thing that I have notice is that most of the so called straight males are so full of sh*t......they are so quick to call any male a fag....and they are not even a crossdressers.

LA CINDY LOVE

Huh?

[BarbiB]

Picture Vinny Barbarino..... ??Whhhhhu-u-u-ut?????

[Annie D]

I agree with Kelly, what difference does it make? One of my original threads was about being straight and I got alot of responses like I'm sure that this one will. But because of this forum, I became braver and Annie got out into the world and do ya know what? The general public assumed that I was gay and would come out and ask me if I was. In the beginning I would deny being gay and then I started replying "not yet" and now I reply 'why does it matter or why do you care?"

When I was younger, I was closeted because I feared that I might be thought of gay, now that I am out to a degree, I don't care anymore. The public will think what they may, I can't educate them and when I try to educate them, do I tell them my sexual orientation as a way of trying to gain acceptance? If I do then I express that I am as hung up with one's sexual orientation as they are. When I tell people about Annie, I speak about the emotional satisfaction that I get from crossdressing and like religion and politics, I leave sex out of it.

[Deb The Brunette]

I truly didn't mean to offend anybody or start any fights, I was just making an observation. I'm certainly not mad at straight people

Can't we all just get along?

-Misty


Didn't offend me at all, I try and get along with everyone--- some are just a lost cause though sadly


Oh just because I wear dresses, it don't mean I'm straight !!!!!.....I'm available too

Welcome Misty.....Debs





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[deja true]

I seem to remember making comments about the "faux femininity" myself awhile ago... but... for many of us, after a couple of decades of hiding behind a macho image, our ideas of what is truly a feminine demeanor is often skewed.

And there's a lot of mistaking "effeminate" for "feminine". Graham Norton for instance is NOT feminine, but he is effeminate. Marilyn Monroe (in her "Some Like it Hot" appearance) was not feminine. She was cartoon-feminine! Angelina Jolie is hardly feminine, but she's definitely a woman to be emulated. To adopt a truly feminine demeanor is a lesson hard learned. And picking the right role models for each of our differing personalites is a long search.

Me? I'm thinking that the personality I already have as "what's-his-name" is a pretty nice one, gentle,polite and soft spoken mostly. Just a little change in inflection and vocabulary for the voice ... and little more grace to the gestures ... and there I am.

The majority of us are not bothered by any member's sexuality in the least ... and in fact, some of us are learning a lot that we didn't know (and need to know) in order to get along in this brave new world.

You are more than welcome here. And more than welcome to tell us or lecture us or enlighten us in any way you like!

respect & love,

deja

:<3:

[Misty is Kindafem]

I seem to remember making comments about the "faux femininity" myself awhile ago... but... for many of us, after a couple of decades of hiding behind a macho image, our ideas of what is truly a feminine demeanor is often skewed.

And there's a lot of mistaking "effeminate" for "feminine". Graham Norton for instance is NOT feminine, but he is effeminate. Marilyn Monroe (in her "Some Like it Hot" appearance) was not feminine. She was cartoon-feminine! Angelina Jolie is hardly feminine, but she's definitely a woman to be emulated. To adopt a truly feminine demeanor is a lesson hard learned. And picking the right role models for each of our differing personalites is a long search.

The majority of us are not bothered by any member's sexuality in the least ... and in fact, some of us are learning a lot that we didn't know (and need to know) in order to get along in this brave new world.

You are more than welcome here. And more than welcome to tell us or lecture us or enlighten us in any way you like!
respect & love,
deja
:<3:

Wow, your post touches on something so deep. Each woman's femininity is hard earned and unique and so is each CD's. We are all naturally feminine in one way or another, or we wouldn't identify with the ladies so much. I know I'm a femmy guy because I've fought it my whole freakin' life. Small soft hands, long thin arms and legs, no adam's apple, a little TOO graceful while trying to play sports, etc etc. I fear that much of my natural femininity is lost forever because I've trained so much of it out of me as I was literally running towards anything masculine that I could do for so many years. The injuries that I've sustained racing motocross and playing hockey couldn't likely be listed on a single page. I would say that whatever girlishness is left in my broken, old (older okay) body is definitely hard earned. I have finally reached a point where I accept myself for the scared little gurl I really am, and I'm going to give her the life she always wanted, to the extent that I can. It occurs to me that femininity comes naturally from within, and we should all embrace and celebrate what we have instead of curse what we don't.

-Misty

[jessiejess112]

I'm single so it really doesn't affect me if people think I'm gay, In real (not virtual) life people think I'm gay anyways, and they don't even know I crossdress. Like Kelly mentioned, I could wear a sign around my neck announcing "I'm straight" while dressed and most people in this society wouldn't believe me.
But I can see how some married cds here would feel the need to remind us that they are straight, even I've done it before; I don't see anything wrong with that.
And I do appreciate your post, you make some good points.
I'd also like to hear from more gay and bi CDs in this forum too: makes it more interesting.

[lottarosie70]

i'm beginning to think i am a bi CD. i love to dress, and i love women...but i am often attracted to other CDs, and there are moments (not only when i am dressed) that i do wonder what it would be like to be with a man. being in a long term relationship has precluded my putting that to the test, however.