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BabyPink
07-03-2009, 04:17 PM
I am very much interested what GGs think of crossdressers. Do they feel replused, amused, complimented or what?
I ask this question because I was listening to a group of lady colleagues at work the other day discussing a TV programme about crossdressers. I was surprised they were so non-critical.
Your views, especially those of GGs, are most welcome.
tricia_uktv
07-03-2009, 04:19 PM
GGs in general love us and will help us. They are fascinated by our stories. They will laugh and joke with us. But there are always a few who can't cope.
Joanne f
07-03-2009, 04:26 PM
A GGs attitude towards cross dressers will be the same attitude as to anyone else if they are treated with respect .
Joni Marie Cruz
07-03-2009, 04:38 PM
GGs in general love us and will help us. They are fascinated by our stories. They will laugh and joke with us. But there are always a few who can't cope.
Hi Tricia-
I so agree, at least in general, that is. Most of, oh hell, really all of, my very best friends are ggirls anymore. Next to my wife, of course. All of them are wonderfully kiind, understanding, helpful and supportive, I count myself blessed by them and their acceptance of me. But there is one major underlying difference, we are just friends. So it easy in a way for them to be fascinated by how I am and even to take it as a sort of compliment how much I admire them and wish I were like them. But if I were their husband or boyfriend, then things would be different. It's one thing to love someone as a friend and support them, it's another thing when it's closer to home.
Hugs...Joni Mari
Sandra
07-03-2009, 05:07 PM
Well this GG has been married to a cder for 22 years this august and have known about the cding for all but 6 months of the marriage.
More GGs in a relationshipwith a cder, may have a better attitude if they were told about the cding early on, and if a lot of cders didn't push things to far to quick.
We met here:D and I agree with Sandra:thumbsup:
More GGs in a relationshipwith a cder, may have a better attitude if they were told about the cding early on, and if a lot of cders didn't push things to far to quick.
Miranda09
07-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Well this GG has been married to a cder for 22 years this august and have known about the cding for all but 6 months of the marriage.
More GGs in a relationshipwith a cder, may have a better attitude if they were told about the cding early on, and if a lot of cders didn't push things to far to quick.
I agree Sandra. I think women, in general, are most accepting as long as their husband, boyfriend, whatever, are up front and honest with them. I think that shows women that their SO trust them enough to expose themselves to a very personal and intimate side of themselves. It's a 2 way street in any relationship, and I think those that have accepting SO's here BECAUSE they were honest, are excellent examples of what a relationship can hold. I know I can't speak from experience here, but it just seems....logical!! :)
Tamara Croft
07-03-2009, 05:33 PM
I find them fascinating to be honest, when I'm out at events (CD ones), I can't take my eyes off them lol... The really flamboyant ones have me staring lol and I get told off :lol: So if you see me at Sparkle next weekend staring at you, please don't be offended :heehee:
Rachel Morley
07-03-2009, 05:47 PM
I would say that in my personal experience, it will depend on the GG, but for the most part they seem to be ok with us.
I agree with Joni Marie that sometimes GGs say are ok with CDers just so long as it's not their SO. However, there are also plenty of GGs who are ok with being in a relationship with a CDer ... and some, as Tamara said, are actually fascinated by us, then there's a small few (like my wife) who describe themselves as "trans-amorous" and look to date CDers because they want that in a partner. :)
Bilinda
07-03-2009, 06:05 PM
It's been my experience that most GG's are fine with CD'ers. HOWEVER, most of them also would never date a CD. The girls I have talked to and dated want a "real" man, and they just don't think a guy who can dress up as a woman is enough man for them.
Notice I said that has been MY experience. Also different cultures of GG's seem to really be turned off my CD's. I have yet to meet a puerto rico or Hispanic girl who would ever date a crossdresser. I live in Orlando where there is a big mix of cultures. Just my experiences.
:straightface:
Tamara Croft
07-03-2009, 06:23 PM
I live in Orlando where there is a big mix of cultures. Just my experiences.Well that's what you get for living in Orlando :raspp:
I am very much interested what GGs think of crossdressers. Do they feel replused, amused, complimented or what?
Ask 100 GGs, get 100 answers.
Every person is different, every GG is different. Which is not to say that there are not trends. From what I have seen - most GGs seem to be pretty cool with CDs - providing they are not dating one. But again - everyone is different.
Joni Marie Cruz
07-03-2009, 06:37 PM
It's been my experience that most GG's are fine with CD'ers. HOWEVER, most of them also would never date a CD. The girls I have talked to and dated want a "real" man, and they just don't think a guy who can dress up as a woman is enough man for them.
Notice I said that has been MY experience. Also different cultures of GG's seem to really be turned off my CD's. I have yet to meet a puerto rico or Hispanic girl who would ever date a crossdresser. I live in Orlando where there is a big mix of cultures. Just my experiences.
:straightface:
Dios mio, hermana. (My god, sis.) I'm a Hispanic girl and I'm totally okay with CD's.<G>
Hugs...Joni Mari
Jessica Who
07-03-2009, 06:53 PM
All of the GGs in my life that know about Jessica are extremely supportive and caring. My mother was especially interested to know all about it and actually reads my blog about once a week.
MissConstrued
07-03-2009, 08:09 PM
I am very much interested what GGs think of crossdressers. Do they feel replused, amused, complimented or what?
How long is a piece of string?
The real question is -- what do you want them to think? Be that.
I find them fascinating to be honest, when I'm out at events (CD ones), I can't take my eyes off them lol...
Would your type be called "tranny hags?" :D I know a couple of you who drool.
they just don't think a guy who can dress up as a woman is enough man for them.
That's one complaint I have yet to hear. :tongueout
Nicole Erin
07-03-2009, 09:47 PM
I find them fascinating to be honest, when I'm out at events (CD ones), I can't take my eyes off them lol... The really flamboyant ones have me staring lol and I get told off :lol: So if you see me at Sparkle next weekend staring at you, please don't be offended :heehee:
[spoken in drag queen voice]
Gurl, you said some CD's are really flamboyant, [snaps fingers in Z form]
Don't eeeeven go there! There ain't no SUCH thing as a falmboyant CD, mmm hmmm! [moving head around in a circle and snapping fingers]
Billijo49504
07-03-2009, 10:24 PM
My wife doesn't have a problem with it. When we go shopping together, I get to pay...BJ
Presh GG
07-03-2009, 11:35 PM
As anywhere in life , it depends on the person ... NOT if they are cders , Are they good kind people?
If you're a rat in a dress or pants , well then who wants to know rats.
But a good friend [ or husband ] is priceless.... CD or not.
springtime gg
kellycan27
07-04-2009, 12:23 AM
GGs in general love us and will help us. They are fascinated by our stories. They will laugh and joke with us. But there are always a few who can't cope.
GG's in here possibly,but I don't think that you can count on the majority having those same feelings. A few who can't cope..ahhh the optomist. lol
Lesley Ann
07-04-2009, 12:35 AM
I feel I am one of the lucky ones here. We go shopping together, there are times when we will be looking at a dress and I will say something like "Oh, I am sure if that style will suit me" and she will reply "I am not thinking of Lesley I was thinking of me". She is very supportive (see my thread A long weekend away)and we have never had an argument about my dressing, occasionally she will frown if I wish to buy yet another bra, or another pair of shoes and points out that the average woman will only have about eight or ten bra's, I am the only person she knows who have over fifty! My cross dressing has grown with her, with her encouragement and support, from having my hair permed to my eyebrows plucked. So yes I am very happy and I now know from reading various threads, a very lucky person.
Lesley Ann
goofus
07-04-2009, 12:38 AM
It's been my experience that most GG's are fine with CD'ers. HOWEVER, most of them also would never date a CD. The girls I have talked to and dated want a "real" man, and they just don't think a guy who can dress up as a woman is enough man for them.
Notice I said that has been MY experience. Also different cultures of GG's seem to really be turned off my CD's. I have yet to meet a puerto rico or Hispanic girl who would ever date a crossdresser. I live in Orlando where there is a big mix of cultures. Just my experiences.
:straightface:
Yeah here in the heartland a lot of gg's say they like "manly men" and I guess I'm just not "manly" enough for them. :battingeyelashes:
DemonicDaughter
07-04-2009, 12:39 AM
Crossdressing doesn't bother me. Stupidity bothers me. You could be intelligent and wear lamp shades on your feet. As long as you don't still have the lamps still in them and plugged in, its fine with me. :D
TxKimberly
07-04-2009, 08:21 AM
GGs in general love us and will help us. They are fascinated by our stories. They will laugh and joke with us. But there are always a few who can't cope.
First thing, I'll state the obvious - no one can claim to speak for all of the GG's, not even a GG herself. Just like us, there are a wide variety of them, each with their own take on things, and so it's impossible to make sweeping statement like "all GG's feel this way".
As a general rule, I've found that most women I've talked to are interested in us and fascinated by us - AS LONG AS the cross dresser in question is not their own husband or boyfriend. So on an analytical level, they are fascinated with the concept, and may even express admiration for your courage in doing so, but all that analytical interest and admiration flies right out the window when they have to deal with it in their own lives.
Deborah G
07-04-2009, 08:35 AM
As a general rule, I've found that most women I've talked to are interested in us and fascinated by us - AS LONG AS the cross dresser in question is not their own husband or boyfriend.
This is my experience. When you affected personally by an issue, it can be far different viewpoint than when you are looking from outside.
Gabrielle Hermosa
07-04-2009, 08:44 AM
My wife (gg) has a great attitude about crossdressers. She married one! :heehee:
Actually, I didn't come out to her until after years of marriage, but she loves my feminine side just like she loves my man-side. She's rather fond of Gabrielle. :)
I think gg's tend to be more accepting of cd's than men are. At the same time, it seems that a lot of gg's don't care to be in a relationship with a cd. It's understandable - many women simply want a masculine man, and there's nothing wrong with that... unless they end up with a closeted cd. That's a recipe for trouble.
I count my blessings. Got an awesome wife who loves ALL of me, not just my man-side. She's an open minded woman with a very big heart. :)
Danielle Gee
07-04-2009, 09:16 AM
More GGs in a relationship with a cder, may have a better attitude if they were told about the cding early on, and if a lot of cders didn't push things to far to quick.
Right on Sandra!!
My wife is mostly very accepting of my CD'ing (tho I suspect she finds it sort of amusing). She thinks there are so many disadvantages to being a woman that she wonders why I want to act & dress like one sometimes. I told my wife about 5 years into a 40+ year marrage, but I agree the "before" the ceremony would be much better.
I also agree about "pushing"......I need to be careful to not get carried away with my CD'ing and make her begin to resent it.....After all, there's times when she wants and needs a man....I always try to read her moods and act accordingly......One strange thing ......Why does she always need Danielle about when the Kitchen floor needs mopped?...Hmmmmmmmmm???
In general CD'ing is like every other hobby... If your in a relationship, you need to always consider your SO's feelings:hugs:
Hug & Kisses" Danielle
Deidra Cowen
07-04-2009, 09:32 AM
I would say that in my personal experience, it will depend on the GG, but for the most part they seem to be ok with us. :)
Thats about right in my opinion!
Sheila
07-04-2009, 10:13 AM
More GGs in a relationshipwith a cder, may have a better attitude if they were told about the cding early on, and if a lot of cders didn't push things to far to quick.
:iagree:
We met here:D and I agree with Sandra:thumbsup:
Same here .............. and we get married in October :D
So it easy in a way for them to be fascinated by how I am and even to take it as a sort of compliment how much I admire them and wish I were like them. But if I were their husband or boyfriend, then things would be different. It's one thing to love someone as a friend and support them, it's another thing when it's closer to home.
Hugs...Joni Mari
yup sometimes that is so true I love and admire our firemen and women ............ would hate to be in a relayionship with one ........... the stress of their job would not be good for me .... so loving and living with applies to all walks of lives not just cding .... My :2c:
Sherry-Stephanie
07-04-2009, 12:10 PM
Last nite I was out at a gay club as Stephanie and I had 5 different females come up and either talk to me or talk to me and buy me drinks...
Now this was only the second time I've been out dressed to the club...and it literally was blowing my mind away..and several of them were not hesitant to kiss and hug freely....
One girla nd she was straight but out with two of her male gay friends came over started up a conversation and bought me a drink and invited me to join them....we talked for over two hours about the whole issue of dressing gender switching etc....not that I am even remotely close to being knowledgable...but last nite I was out on my own without anyone else being there and it was just an absloutley incredible experience....
But if I were their husband or boyfriend, then things would be different. It's one thing to love someone as a friend and support them, it's another thing when it's closer to home.
Amen....boy have I found that out with wife and all and the fact that she's bailed out on me....she couldn't accpet it as my wife but she's OK with it as a friend....and that I'm still trying to get my head around....
Karen564
07-04-2009, 02:37 PM
GG's in here possibly,but I don't think that you can count on the majority having those same feelings. A few who can't cope..ahhh the optomist. lol
That's what I was thinking too..!!!:straightface:
What I mean is,,,,, to ask for what GG girls think about CD'ing in here is like asking someone if they like car racing on a Nascar web site..Like duh...:doh:
In regards to the tread starters question,
If you want an answer from the general population , then go to an open forum, not in here, and then see what happens..:D
Sarah...
07-04-2009, 03:14 PM
Crossdressing doesn't bother me. Stupidity bothers me. You could be intelligent and wear lamp shades on your feet. As long as you don't still have the lamps still in them and plugged in, its fine with me. :D
Smile of the day. Fantastic :)
Sarah...
stefanie
07-04-2009, 03:32 PM
hi gurls,
while i haven't surveyed a 100 gg in a 100 places, i have recently run into more gg that are generally very accepting and curious if not interesting or fascinated. Maybe like having a girlfriend even beyond the gay community.....can talk more about clothes, fashion, etc and we actually can relate.
all said, i am married, wife knows before we got marrried. She really hates it. Short story is I have become progressively more girly (even have bikini tan lines.... Can't help myself :)
I can honestly say, if she met me on the street as friends, we would have a great time, probably go bar hopping, shoe shopping, movies, etc. We would be friends but not lovers. I think beyond the physical, there is simply a deeper emotional connection or perception of what women see in men inately in the whole bell curve thing...we don't naturally have soft smooth skin, we don't have naturally have thin arched eyebrows, we don't naturally like to prance around, we don't naturally get all giddy, etc. Long response i know but have been thinking about this one for years now!
this has been a fun read to see what you all hear and see.
freeindress
07-04-2009, 03:36 PM
I think gg's tend to be more accepting of cd's than men are. At the same time, it seems that a lot of gg's don't care to be in a relationship with a cd. It's understandable - many women simply want a masculine man, and there's nothing wrong with that... unless they end up with a closeted cd. That's a recipe for trouble.
Should a single CD trying to date GG's start dating partially dressed (more than half masculine, with feminine overtones), to tell the truth (or at least give enough hints) from the beginning ?
stefanie
07-04-2009, 03:45 PM
i kinda think so....
i was more masculine at the time...surfer, mtn bike racer, blah, blah, blah...
now i am more soft, smooth, kind of androgynous i suppose as I look back at old pics.
I suspect if you already have at least some of the physical features and femme characteristics, i suspect a gg would then like you for it and not have to experience the shock treatment that could follow...
my advice, get at least as physically girly as is comfortable for you and see how gg's respond.
good luck!
DemonicDaughter
07-04-2009, 09:11 PM
Smile of the day. Fantastic :)
Sarah...
*bows gracefully... then realizes she's still at her desk, smacks forehead on the edge, curses, pushes chair away from desk which bumps into the box behind her setting off an avalanche of items that comes clamoring down around her...* What was I saying about stupidity?
Stargirl
07-04-2009, 10:00 PM
As far back as I can recall, I have always been fascinated by crossdressers, both male, and female. It seemed so "right" to me that they chose to dress that way. Most of my exposure came from black and white tv variety shows, and a few dramas depicting someone having to wear a disguise of the opposite sex to evade the law. Any show trying to depict real life crossdressing as "normal" would have been very hard to find on tv back then.
Fondew2004
07-05-2009, 07:31 AM
The GG I met online not only seems accepting...but encouraging!
Of course, it's easy to be encouraging "online".
Reality is a whole other universe!
We'll have to see!
Misty is Kindafem
07-05-2009, 11:58 AM
Don't mean to ask a dumb question but what is a GG?
Pay attention honey, the acronyms fly fast and furious around here. I see one every now and then that I can't figure out.
I'm gonna start making a few up;
GTR - Gurls That Rock
DC - Damn Cute
HLK - Hot Like Kelly
FLJ - Fierce Like Joni
Look for these and more HNA's (Hot New Acronyms) in a post near you.
-Misty
Jo Jones
07-06-2009, 10:09 AM
Like many, my wife is supportive to the point of encouragement (esp in the 'bedroom'!) :) I don't go out CDd cos I've no interest in doing it.
I guess it depends on the social and moral values of both parties as to how the CDing is eventually outed to the GG, and how that information is accepted?
For me, I have a very strong naughty, risque, double entendre side to my personality and my ladyfriend - now wife - was always used to my being saucy about any aspect of sex right from the start, so there was never a 'bombshell' announcement that I liked CDing.
CDing for us is spicy, rollplay for the 'bedroom'. She loves it cos it's naughty but playful fun, and enjoyment for us both.
JJ xx
Deborah Jane
07-07-2009, 06:57 AM
*bows gracefully... then realizes she's still at her desk, smacks forehead on the edge, curses, pushes chair away from desk which bumps into the box behind her setting off an avalanche of items that comes clamoring down around her...* What was I saying about stupidity?
:lol2: Creases up laughing :lol2::lol2:
Falls off chair, cracking my skull and spends the rest of the day in Hospital :sad::doh:
DemonicDaughter
07-07-2009, 12:48 PM
:lol2: Creases up laughing :lol2::lol2:
Falls off chair, cracking my skull and spends the rest of the day in Hospital :sad::doh:
Sorry about the bumpers on the head... did any air escape? :eek:
Kimmie
07-07-2009, 02:21 PM
Women can be unpredictable. I had a friend, she hung out with gays. A f-- hag if you will. I told her about Kimmie, thinking she'd be cool about it. She was very curious initially and has since quietly distanced herself from me.
Deb The Brunette
07-07-2009, 02:58 PM
As far back as I can recall, I have always been fascinated by crossdressers, both male, and female. It seemed so "right" to me that they chose to dress that way. Most of my exposure came from black and white tv variety shows, and a few dramas depicting someone having to wear a disguise of the opposite sex to evade the law. Any show trying to depict real life crossdressing as "normal" would have been very hard to find on tv back then.
Hell !! marry me :love: I'm a weirdo too ..seen your profile
...(I'm free, never been married, no baggage...well except a huge wardrobe)
.
kellycan27
07-07-2009, 03:06 PM
Dios mio, hermana. (My god, sis.) I'm a Hispanic girl and I'm totally okay with CD's.<G>
Hugs...Joni Mari
I thought the question was with regards to GG's Joni. Ok who brought in the ringer? LOL
cdbethany
07-07-2009, 05:50 PM
ive had no problems with ggs over my dressing,my girlfriend lora is being very supportive and a girl came to my defence on xbox live today.i was dressed up in a cute dress with wig and makeup and decided to test the waters and went on my xbox onthe uno game which allows video.i went into a game and one guy started calling me a pervert for dressing,straight away the girl and the other guy in the match turned on the douche and gave him a tongue lashing they said i wasnt a pervert that i was probably a transexual which to save arguements i said i was and the guy who started when i entered the room did apoligise and the game continued fine.
bethany xxxxxx
kristinacd55
07-07-2009, 08:18 PM
Well this GG has been married to a cder for 22 years this august and have known about the cding for all but 6 months of the marriage.
More GGs in a relationshipwith a cder, may have a better attitude if they were told about the cding early on, and if a lot of cders didn't push things to far to quick.
That hits the nail right on the head Sandra! Well said
Satrana
07-08-2009, 02:32 AM
The "average" woman does not know what a CD is, they think we are all gay drag queens. They may find us fascinating if they run into one on a night out but generally they have no interest in us and do not see how a CD would fit into their lives. As far as dating a CD, the overwhelming answer is No Thanks!
CDs are listed as non-threatening males - OK to befriend but nothing beyond that. The "average" woman is still conditioned to believe in the real man myth, a man whose duty it is to light her romantic desires by playing out standardized roles in the socially approved manner. A feminine man does not fit the bill since we are thought of more as girl friend material.
Fortunately there are plenty of non average women who can think independently for themselves.
yup sometimes that is so true I love and admire our firemen and women ............ would hate to be in a relayionship with one ........... the stress of their job would not be good for me .... so loving and living with applies to all walks of lives not just cding .... My :2c:[/QUOTE]
well said..................most GGs might like CD but not as spouses, while men see CDs as sell-out(s).
Tal'Aura
07-08-2009, 07:28 AM
I am very much interested what GGs think of crossdressers. Do they feel replused, amused, complimented or what?
Jolan Tru,
This is an ancient debate, but I have solid reasons to believe that ninety-five percent of female population truly hate all kinds of the transgendered persons. Two percent is amused in a mockingly way, and another two percent wants us cured from this "mental illness". The remaining one percent is maybe on our side, but isn't worth the trouble because of extremely low odds...
Empress Lainie
07-08-2009, 07:32 AM
My experience has been nothing but positive. The only exception being the tranny hater that got me fired from city hall. I was even welcomed with a hug and open arms from one parent who said us girls have to stick together.
Before I realized my transexual status, my girlfriend did get crazy about the fact she saw me turning in to a woman (I didn't, really!) and didn't speak to me until 6 months after my transition. Now she is my best friend.
Another one is a long time friend of my sister I had little to do with before my transition, now I seem to be her best friend.
Sheila
07-08-2009, 07:40 AM
Jolan Tru,
This is an ancient debate, but I have solid reasons to believe that ninety-five percent of female population truly hate all kinds of the transgendered persons. Two percent is amused in a mockingly way, and another two percent wants us cured from this "mental illness". The remaining one percent is maybe on our side, but isn't worth the trouble because of extremely low odds...
Wana show us the stats on your conclusions....... or are you just making numbers up ?.......... as A GG I am offended by those wild numbers
sophieporter
07-08-2009, 07:41 AM
Right, here's the thing.
Some guys like to dress like girls.
That's it, really. Some makup, dresses, underwear, whatever.
There's nothing to accept, no 'social norm' to consider, it's just there.
No 'taking it slowly', no 'I'll think about it', it's there, and if you can't handle it, for our sakes, let go of this whole 'but it's for girl's!' mentality.
We're here, we're different, we may be queer, and damn it to hell, we aren't going away.
Love,
Sophie
Deborah Jane
07-08-2009, 07:50 AM
Jolan Tru,
This is an ancient debate, but I have solid reasons to believe that ninety-five percent of female population truly hate all kinds of the transgendered persons. Two percent is amused in a mockingly way, and another two percent wants us cured from this "mental illness". The remaining one percent is maybe on our side, but isn't worth the trouble because of extremely low odds...
I don't know where you get your figures from, but a good 90% of GGs who know about me are fully supportive!!
I'm going to marry one of them in October [Sheila] :love:
In fact i've only ever received 2 negative responses from GGs about my c/ding in the last three years [none before that as i didn't tell anyone]
Tamara Croft
07-08-2009, 09:01 AM
Jolan Tru,
This is an ancient debate, but I have solid reasons to believe that ninety-five percent of female population truly hate all kinds of the transgendered persons. Two percent is amused in a mockingly way, and another two percent wants us cured from this "mental illness". The remaining one percent is maybe on our side, but isn't worth the trouble because of extremely low odds...LOL... I've read some funny things here.... and you've come to this absurd conclusion how? So, out of the 400 GG's on this board, 95% of us hate the transgendered... 2% of us are just amused, 2% of us want you cured and only 1% of us are on your side... ok then... So, by your calculations, only 4 of us GG's on the whole board are on your side... :rolleyes:
PaulaJaneThomas
07-08-2009, 10:08 AM
I detect a misogynist in our midsts :thumbsdn:
Sheila
07-08-2009, 10:22 AM
I detect a misogynist in our midsts :thumbsdn:
you could be spot on hun :hugs:
Lorileah
07-08-2009, 11:00 AM
I wanna know which 4 :) Oh and the 8 that I amuse I like amusing people
Sheila
07-08-2009, 11:07 AM
I wanna know which 4 :) Oh and the 8 that I amuse I like amusing people
For EXample ME, Sandra, Reine, Sarah GG, mylitta, Di, a few others.......... am sure there is a biggie I am missing, can't think who :devil::devil:.... owww wait I can't count
Ms Mira
07-08-2009, 11:19 AM
From my limited experience of having this brought up, the most common reaction, at least amongst girls my age, is amusement. Could be worse I guess.
DemonicDaughter
07-08-2009, 11:52 AM
For EXample ME, Sandra, Reine, Sarah GG, mylitta, Di, a few others.......... am sure there is a biggie I am missing, can't think who :devil::devil:.... owww wait I can't count
*taps foot*
Anyhow!
You all crack me up. These made up statistics (did you know that 80% of all statistics are made up on the spot?), these "whoa is me", these "we should eat worms" bit is truly sad. You think just because you don on some women's clothing that the rest of the world hates you? Pfft! The world doesn't know you exist!
Whoever on here said that most GGs don't know what a CD is was correct. I grew up in a place where drag queens reign supreme and are as common as air (NYC) yet never knew that a straight or bi drag queen was called a crossdresser. I've met quite a few TS in my time as well and STILL had no idea that part-time gender-benders were crossdressers.
You aren't "hated" [insert ominous music here]. You aren't even known. Most GGs will assume you are gay. Why? Because drag queens are far more out than cders are.
AND..
[Here's a real shocker for you!]
If so many GGs are friends, accepting, even in lust/love with them what makes you think they wouldn't be with you?!
Sometimes you all truly make me just shake my head in wonder.
Stargirl
07-08-2009, 11:58 AM
There are a lot of GMales who are fine with a crossdressing female, too. If a girl shows up with a hip hop outfit, skateboard, wallet, and hot rod car, it's "cool". She may make it very clear that she loves men sexually.
When a male shows up dressed as a female, it seems that most GG's would be fine with it, because in the case of mtf crossdressers, emulation can be flattering. Reactions may be varied based on how the mtf crossdresser is introduced to GG's. Being "forewarned" that a crossdresser will show up at a family picnic is different from having a purple haired crossdresser show up at a wedding wearing a chartreuse bridesmaids gown unannounced, and uninvited. The reactions can range from "Get that freak out of here" to "Oh how neat ! What a colorful lady you are ! Please stay."
goofus
07-08-2009, 12:01 PM
Most of my exposure came from black and white tv variety shows, and a few dramas depicting someone having to wear a disguise of the opposite sex to evade the law. Any show trying to depict real life crossdressing as "normal" would have been very hard to find on tv back then.
Or today, for that matter :straightface:
Emma England
07-08-2009, 12:59 PM
Why is there any amusement?
For entertainment, look at a comedy or a funny movie.
Clothes are funny or amusing? I don't get it.
Tal'Aura
07-08-2009, 01:36 PM
I detect a misogynist in our midsts :thumbsdn:
Is that a remark on me? I even can't express what I think without being labelled or accused of something. In this specific case I am very offended by being called "a misogynist" because I am not capable of hating anyone, not even those who hate me, and especially not womens...
I am sick and tired of this treatment, so this will be my last post on this section.
Jolan Tru
Blaire
07-08-2009, 01:51 PM
LOL... I've read some funny things here.... and you've come to this absurd conclusion how? So, out of the 400 GG's on this board, 95% of us hate the transgendered... 2% of us are just amused, 2% of us want you cured and only 1% of us are on your side... ok then... So, by your calculations, only 4 of us GG's on the whole board are on your side... :rolleyes:
Isn' this like taking a survey on home building materials and then only counting brick houses? What are brick houses usualy made of?
"Statistics" like those thrown out here have two flaws: there aren't enough samples, and that limited sample is biased towards the person's experience. Even regionally, it's odds on that there are places in the world where the TG community is more accepted, and places where it's not. I'm sure a person living in San Francisco would have a vastly different opinion of her acceptance with GG's than one living in, say, Riyadh. From what I've seen in my short time here, it's a world wide forum.
MissConstrued
07-08-2009, 02:38 PM
Well... in Tal'Aura's defense, I doubt many of us have ever lived in Croatia. I've never been there. I don't speak the language. Most I can do is find it on a map. And I know nothing of the culture there. I do know that there have been civil wars in the recent past. That may have some effect on the culture, I think.
Then, too, there's the whole "perception is reality" thing.
kellycan27
07-08-2009, 03:13 PM
I believe that gg's may be more accepting in general, then say their testosterone laden counterparts. Most of my GG friends don't have a problem with cd'ers, although they admit that a cd'er might not be be on their list of potential mates.
"Testosterone laden".... You know, the ones.. rigid in they way they think,everything has to be logical progression. Boasts of multiple g/f's to bolster their masculinity,manly men!:heehee:
Sarah_GG
07-08-2009, 03:34 PM
When I first encountered crossdressers at Madame JoJo's over twenty years ago I was very intrigued. I remember thinking "ooh, I'd like one of those :daydreaming:". I was reminded of those thoughts and feelings the first few times I saw my SO dressed - my wish came true and now... I've got one of those. :D
Having spent so much time on this site in the last year, CDers seem the every day norm! I'm looking forward to Sparkle to enjoy the spectacle and spend time with those who have an extra something special in their lives.
:D
PaulaJaneThomas
07-08-2009, 04:33 PM
"Testosterone laden".... You know, the ones.. rigid in they way they think,everything has to be logical progression. Boasts of multiple g/f's to bolster their masculinity,manly men!:heehee:
And drive BMWs ;) I know the type.
MissConstrued
07-08-2009, 08:05 PM
Boasts of multiple g/f's to bolster their masculinity,manly men!:heehee:
I'm not going to dignify that with a response.
Oh wait. I did. :D
kellycan27
07-08-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm not going to dignify that with a response.
Oh wait. I did. :D
hehe, I was just kiddin, hoping you'ed catch it....lol You did mention that you had three girlfrends. I could swear you mentioned that.
Lorileah
07-08-2009, 11:22 PM
Most of my GG friends don't have a problem with cd'ers, although they admit that a cd'er might not be be on their list of potential mates.
"Testosterone laden".... You know, the ones.. rigid in they way they think,everything has to be logical progression. Boasts of multiple g/f's to bolster their masculinity,manly men!:heehee:
Take out the "might" part. The women on here have very open minds and understand that a dress does not make you less manly.
Did MissC tell you she had three G/fs? She has 3 G/f's you know :)
Bev06 GG
07-09-2009, 02:13 AM
I would say that in my personal experience, it will depend on the GG, but for the most part they seem to be ok with us.
I agree with Joni Marie that sometimes GGs say are ok with CDers just so long as it's not their SO. However, there are also plenty of GGs who are ok with being in a relationship with a CDer ... and some, as Tamara said, are actually fascinated by us, then there's a small few (like my wife) who describe themselves as "trans-amorous" and look to date CDers because they want that in a partner. :)
Hi Rachel,
Just to add to that it also depends on the CD. I have quite a large circle of CD friends now and we meet regularly. I have to say that even as an accepting GG there are some CDs that would drive me nuts.
Take care
Bev
DanaR
07-09-2009, 02:37 AM
First thing, I'll state the obvious - no one can claim to speak for all of the GG's, not even a GG herself. Just like us, there are a wide variety of them, each with their own take on things, and so it's impossible to make sweeping statement like "all GG's feel this way".
As a general rule, I've found that most women I've talked to are interested in us and fascinated by us - AS LONG AS the cross dresser in question is not their own husband or boyfriend. So on an analytical level, they are fascinated with the concept, and may even express admiration for your courage in doing so, but all that analytical interest and admiration flies right out the window when they have to deal with it in their own lives.
This has been my experience as well. They are interested, but if it were to happen to them it would be different. Actually that is a good question to ask people that you meet; How would you feel if your SO crossdressed, most would have a hard time with it.
battybattybats
07-09-2009, 08:33 AM
Here's my recent experience with GG reactions to TGs:
On Saturday I went to a friends cocktail party. I dressed in a long purple dress, heels, long gloves and the furr coat I got from my Grandmother when she passed earlier this year.
The party included some straight couples, much of the towns out lesbian community, some gay male couples and some straight and GLB singles. Some there I have not seen in many many months (nearly a year) and only knew me as gender-non-conforming and many i had not met before at all including most of the straight people at the party.
Immediate response? I got hugs. Not hate, hugs. And a kissed cheek. I got a few questions as people bent over backwards to be polite and ensure I was addressed with preferred name and pronouns.
Sure, one could expect the people at the party would be more accepting but..
I took a taxi there and back, the GG taxi driver on the way home? Friendly. And as an aside a comment by the also-friendly male driver on the way to the party seemed suggestive that he might be a CD too.
And in recent shopping I was asked if I'd like to try clothes on in the changerooms in Sportsgirl. I didn't ask, she offered. Same at Just Jeans too.
Marisa_M
07-09-2009, 01:19 PM
I have a wonderful GG friend who support me and help me in any way. And I know she have the same attitude to other CDs.
One day she invited me to a tea party at her home with other genetic girls. As I was the only non genetic woman I felt terribly nervous but it was amazing how all of them welcomed me, made me feel comfortable and treated me as if I were one of them.
Of course all of them were curious about crossdressing and asked me thousands of questions but always in a respectful way. They seemed to be really interested in our life.
It was a great experience...now I think GGs are much more understanding than we can imagine. :love:
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