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pattyv
07-31-2009, 09:47 PM
If transitioning were 100% socially acceptable and fully funded by society,how many would consider it? How many of us have looked at GGs and wish and sigh?

ronny
07-31-2009, 09:54 PM
I understand your feelings! I have as a ts lived as a woman for about 5 years. I feel fortunate that my situation allowed me to do so. I have many gg gf's and am considered to be :)just one of the girls. I wish everyone could do so if they so wished! A friend..

roni

LilSissyStevie
07-31-2009, 09:59 PM
Not me. I'm already complete.

Melissa Rose
07-31-2009, 10:05 PM
I would do it. Wishing and sighing? Definitely.

BreenaDion
07-31-2009, 10:08 PM
I am a work in progress. Paint a picture an unvail it yrs later, what do you see ? I have tons of work in front of me in a lot of different directions. This keeps me on my toes. Buzy Buzy but I still have time for " ME ".

Glad my wife has insurance for Psycologist an drs.

Transitioning hasnt cost much but the waiting, waiting drives me banana's lol
Wish I was on a super fast track to get this all behind me, but patience i must welcome.

Love Bree:love:

Aubrey Green
07-31-2009, 10:18 PM
Regardless, I wish I would have done it when I was 18.


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CD Susan
07-31-2009, 10:24 PM
I would not only consider it I would do it! I only wish that I was 20 years old again as I know that this is what I should have done when I was that age.

Penelope Marie
07-31-2009, 10:31 PM
Ronnie you look amazing! I want to look as good as you and some of the others here. Yes i surly would transtiion if i first had the funds and really that's the only thing stopping me. it is difficult indeed!

Crysten
07-31-2009, 10:46 PM
Ooh ooh ooh pick me pick me!!! ME ME ME!!! RIGHT NOW!!! HEY I'M YELLING HERE!!!! **everyone continues to ignore Crysten**

Crysten :tongueout

AlannahNorth
07-31-2009, 10:48 PM
Completely paid for and totally acceptable? Interesting option, but no, not for me. I can walk in both worlds and it's fun, and a bonus for me.

Crysten
07-31-2009, 10:50 PM
Ronnie you look amazing! I want to look as good as you and some of the others here. Yes i surly would transtiion if i first had the funds and really that's the only thing stopping me. it is difficult indeed!

Wow I have to agree - I would trade my left arm to look like you Ronnie. You look fantastic!! Then of course, I wouldn't look like you becuase I'd only have one arm. I guess. :battingeyelashes:

Crysten

lori m crawford
08-01-2009, 12:14 AM
yes i wood why not live my life the way i wont

Bev06 GG
08-01-2009, 01:50 AM
Hi Laura,
Im gonna show my ignorance now and hopefully not offend any of you because I thought it was. I have two or three friends who either have transitioned or are in the process of doing so. The hardest thing that they had to get through was counselling but once through that everything has been paid for on the NHS. I'm in the Uk, but maybe I have misunderstood and maybe this isn't the case.
The friend that I have who is fully transitioned to be honest is a woman, no doubt about it and never gets questioned because hell transitioning is the real deal. She is one of my best friends and I never think of her as anything but 100% female because she is, and certainly no one else would do. She is just one of the girls.
I think to be honest, and this is only my opinion so correct me if I'm wrong, but transexual people dont suffer the same stigma as CDs purely and simply because people have more understanding and empathy for someone who feels trapped in the wrong body. I'd appreciate any thoughts because as I say it isn't an area that I am fully understanding of.
Take care
Bev

PaulaJaneThomas
08-01-2009, 02:50 AM
Bev, TSs do suffer social stigma. Maybe the few who pass really well can get by with few problems but most can't and have to go about their lives as best they can. Many will have been rejected by their family and friends. The media portrayal of trans people is overwhelmingly negative. We're consistently portrayed as perverts or psychotic killers. Given that the wider population have no other source of information about trans people, is it any wonder that they view us so negatively?

MiraM
08-01-2009, 02:54 AM
I would not only consider it I would do it! I only wish that I was 20 years old again as I know that this is what I should have done when I was that age.

This pretty much sums it up for me as well.

Georgia_Grayce
08-01-2009, 03:09 AM
I would....I've given it a lot of thought and decided I wanted to have kids first. I did think about freezing some with a bank and going forward with it although cost and parents have kept me from it. If I do in the future...i will probably freeze some little guys and maybe have a baby of my own?

I still don't understand why I feel like this...I just stopped trying to feel something else and excepted it. All the shrinks and counseling never helped me the way they wanted to. Although they did help. I'm not crazy anymore...:D


To add, for now i love being a guy for all its worth. I just don't want to waste what I do have now. There's something to be said about the excitment of being caught by friends with shaved legs.

KateConnors
08-01-2009, 03:44 AM
I absolutely would go through with transitioning. I started 9 years when I was 21 (holy crap, those 9 years went fast), but given those 9 years back I would absolutely continue down that path.

I am currently in a bind as to whether to transition at the moment (my wife is certainly one reason against transitioning though).

Bev06 GG
08-01-2009, 04:50 AM
Bev, TSs do suffer social stigma. Maybe the few who pass really well can get by with few problems but most can't and have to go about their lives as best they can. Many will have been rejected by their family and friends. The media portrayal of trans people is overwhelmingly negative. We're consistently portrayed as perverts or psychotic killers. Given that the wider population have no other source of information about trans people, is it any wonder that they view us so negatively?

OMG thats terrible. Just goes to show what a sheltered life I've led then. I have to admit my friend who is going down that path has not suffered anything like what your describing and his family have even rallied round, I hope that lasts for him cause he'd be devastated if he suffered anything like that. I hope he never does.
Thanks for enlightening me Paula
take care
bev

Donnadcd
08-01-2009, 07:43 AM
so fast it would make my head spin

Jeanna
08-01-2009, 07:46 AM
No way

Raychel
08-01-2009, 07:49 AM
Not for me, I am totally happy with who I am. :)

Miranda09
08-01-2009, 07:59 AM
I doubt I would do it, tho I might give it serious consideration.

Carole Cross
08-01-2009, 08:34 AM
I have already started my transition. It doesen't matter to me whether it is acceptable or not, it is something that I have to do and acceptance shouldn't be a barrier to anyone else if they feel transitioning right thing for them to do.

I have found that most people don't care either way and it is becoming more acceptable. The media is even changing it's view judging by a few recent articles I have seen, as are public sevice organisations.

Here in the UK the NHS does not pay for all medical services that are needed, most local trusts only pay for srs and hormones. Things like ffs, hair removal and breast implants will have to be funded by the individual.

TGMarla
08-01-2009, 08:43 AM
Yes, I look at GGs and sigh, "There but for the grace of God go I." But I think you're doing another "magic wand" type of question here. Even if transitioning were, as you say, 100% socially acceptable, it would still hurt my wife, cost tens of thousands of dollar$, and the outcome might not be what I envision. I'm half bald, for instance. Hair plugs only do so much, and I doubt that Apollo hair systems is going to render an acceptable head of hair for a woman to wear inside of a reasonable budget. Is Obama-care going to cover that, too? I think I'd like life as a woman, but I think that ship has sailed.

kristytv
08-01-2009, 08:55 AM
i would in a heart beat, i still am working on it though . ha

Andy66
08-01-2009, 09:04 AM
Nah... But I'll take a little (alright, a lot) of liposuction if they're offering that.

Marisa_M
08-01-2009, 09:05 AM
If transitioning were 100% socially acceptable and fully funded by society,how many would consider it? How many of us have looked at GGs and wish and sigh?

I would but at 36 maybe it's too late for me:sad:

Sarah Doepner
08-01-2009, 09:23 AM
I don't think so. Maybe years and years ago I would have walked that path, but now it would have to come with a trip to the fountain of youth and a full memory erase. Thanks, but I'll give mine up to that young lady over there who isn't just a CD but really has a need to transition.

Nicole Erin
08-01-2009, 09:38 AM
Well this thread is kind of depressing.
Would I do it? Of course.

As I am now, I pass pretty good if I am dolled up enough and on a good day, but it just sucks cause I hate being seen as male at all.

Penelope Marie
08-01-2009, 10:12 AM
Well this thread is kind of depressing.
Would I do it? Of course.

As I am now, I pass pretty good if I am dolled up enough and on a good day, but it just sucks cause I hate being seen as male at all.

That gos for me as well. i stay depressed and/or irritable most of the time knowing that my body is male while my spirit and soul is not

brittdoll
08-01-2009, 10:56 AM
Wish I had her natural body - YES

Actaully want to physically transition - NO

Denise01
08-01-2009, 11:20 AM
I would have started to transition years ago if it were not for a family business and living in a very narrow minded part of the country did not help.

That is all behind me now. Have since moved and now living full time as a woman.

I expect to start my full transition within a few weeks, and feel so good about it


Denise

:):):):)

LisaM
08-01-2009, 12:32 PM
Given the scenario that you described, I would have done it years ago.

sandra-leigh
08-01-2009, 12:46 PM
At this point in my life, I don't feel as if transition (in the sense of full GRS and perhaps FFS and whatever) is something that would be right for me. I'm not talking about acceptance or "starting over" or anything like that: I've just never felt like the "real me" is female. Sure I've seen women whom I've said to myself "I'd like to look like that!", or "I'd like to trade bodies with her!" -- but that's the external appearance, not the internal mental space, and as I explore the internal mental space, I'm far from sure that a body swap would accomplish anything.

But at the same time, my internal mental space is telling me that I'm something other than "male", at least as is stereotypical defined. I've received a referral to a gender therapist (but they haven't returned my call yet to set up the first appointment), and I intend to explore a bunch of issues, including whether my thought patterns and my desires are within the "normal" range of variation within what is commonly called "male" (e.g., perhaps a lot of men feel much like I do but few are willing to say so or act upon it.)

It's not exactly a topic that comes up in face-to-face conversation with people who are willing to be open about it... there's so much assumption in my society that people will conform, that even one-on-one, one would expect most males to deny deny deny, either burying within themselves or sitting there during the conversation simultaneously outwardly saying "No way!" and inwardly saying "I wish I had the guts / circumstances to wear some lipstick like that!"

I currently identify as gender-fluid transgendered, approaching androgynous from the male side. On the other hand, there have been a couple of minor incidents that I'm Not Thinking About that cause me to wonder where I would really end up if I were to go 24/7 (non-op) and people started treating me as female....

kellycan27
08-01-2009, 07:47 PM
:eek: You mean it's not? :heehee:

Ralph
08-01-2009, 07:52 PM
Not a chance. I like Little Ralphie and he's going to stay there guarding the family jewels as long as I draw breath. Don't wanna be called "ma'am" or "miss", either (and don't get me started about "hun").

If "society" is going to pay for that transition, though, I'd be more than happy to take the money they would otherwise have spent on it and spend it all on pizza and beer instead.

TJ Tresa
08-01-2009, 08:00 PM
I don't know, right now I am happily married to a wonderful woman who accepts my CDing. Now if she wernt in the picture I might consider it. I wonder want it would be like to live fulltime as a woman. Just can not say for sure.

shirley1
08-01-2009, 09:27 PM
I have already started my transition. It doesen't matter to me whether it is acceptable or not, it is something that I have to do and acceptance shouldn't be a barrier to anyone else if they feel transitioning right thing for them to do.

I have found that most people don't care either way and it is becoming more acceptable. The media is even changing it's view judging by a few recent articles I have seen, as are public sevice organisations.

Here in the UK the NHS does not pay for all medical services that are needed, most local trusts only pay for srs and hormones. Things like ffs, hair removal and breast implants will have to be funded by the individual.


Totally agree, I too live in Britain and yeh most people don't care anymore, the fears in our own minds, we think at first people will hate us, most people don't give a stuff ! Its just mainly kids that can be a problem, cause they are not always mature enough to be polite.

I will pick up on something though, I disagree with the person that said that ts's don't suffer the same stigma as cross dressers do, not all ts's look that convincing, jo public generally can't tell the difference between a cross dresser and a transsexual, unless it is obvious, sure its true maybe for people that know us, yeh I will go along with the fact that a transsexual is more likely to be accepted than a cross dresser is, but only on the basis that people know that, people on the streets don't, so if they read you you are just as likely to get abuse as any trannie would, so kids had a go at me once and I told them I was ts, they went on to call me a freak and followed me down the road, they didn't care they just read me as a guy dressed, so it's easier now but not always that easy there are still mindless idiots out there.

fiona_libby
08-01-2009, 09:42 PM
That would be my dream situation

pattyv
08-01-2009, 09:49 PM
:eek: You mean it's not? :heehee:

No-I said if it were.Not was.

kellycan27
08-01-2009, 10:06 PM
No-I said if it were.Not was.

Could I get a refund on all the damn money I already spent?

pattyv
08-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Could I get a refund on all the damn money I already spent?

Submit your vouchers with the necessary stamps, and they will be processed.

MaryAnn40c
08-02-2009, 02:22 AM
I would change in a heath beat!!

Patricia Danielle
08-02-2009, 03:35 AM
You bet but I still go out and have fun in a skirt!

Lisa Golightly
08-02-2009, 04:10 AM
Well... If it was only 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001% acceptable... if it's what ya gotta do it's what ya gotta do. Maybe you should have said... 'If no-one knew you had transitioned and were perfect would you get yourself sliced up?'.

I've found most people are cool with it... You get the odd stare... the odd mutter... but it ain't that bad... Never had anyone laugh yet which I think is kinda cool...

where was I? Oh yes... I don't know if anything is 100% socially acceptable... There's always a contrary character who swims against the tide... What do you mean that's me on this thread? :)

Lisa x

jennifer3169
08-02-2009, 04:59 AM
I would in a second I wish i could be a woman in every way i love the sensual clothes the makeup and i would love to date a man and be treated as a woman in every way and treat him as a woman would. I think i would love getting up every morning if i was a woman and could dress and act as i feel instead i am putting on a show to be the man everyone wants me to be wife,friends,and co-workers

kellycan27
08-02-2009, 01:21 PM
I would in a second I wish i could be a woman in every way i love the sensual clothes the makeup and i would love to date a man and be treated as a woman in every way and treat him as a woman would. I think i would love getting up every morning if i was a woman and could dress and act as i feel instead i am putting on a show to be the man everyone wants me to be wife,friends,and co-workers

There ya go...Now you're talking!

Aubrey Green
08-02-2009, 01:49 PM
Kelly, luv the new pic! The only word that really comes to mind is, "WOW"


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