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Byanca
08-23-2009, 09:31 AM
Is this true?

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=18459725


The study investigates the ability of transsexuals (TS) to recognize facially expressed basic emotions. It was hypothesized that. due to their discomfort in their gender role, this ability might be diminished in TS. In addition it was expected that emotion recognition improves during the course of transgendering, e.g., after having started the Real-life Experience (RLE) which regularly reduces stress levels. Finally it was hypothesized that TS do better in recognizing facial emotions when the person showing them has their desired sex and gender. To test these hypotheses the FEEL-test (Facially Expressed Emotion Labelling) was used. Forty-seven TS and 55 non-transsexual controls matched for age and sex were included in the study. The first hypothesis was confirmed. As regards the second hypothesis, no differences could be found between the groups at different stages in the transition between the two genders. The third hypothesis was also rejected: TS recognized facially expressed basic emotions from male and female stimuli independently of their desired sex.

And a test.
http://www.questionwritertracker.com/index.php/quiz/display?id=61&token=Z4MK3TKB

Not sure if this test is accurate, since these people might not even know themselves what they really are feeling. I suspect it is based general facial expressions.

My idea is more that TS people think more complex, so might not be diminished, but the opposite. But that will result in a lower score regardless.

Not that it matters, but I found it interesting none the less.

GypsyKaren
08-23-2009, 03:06 PM
Sounds like some idiot who wants to feel important and has too much time on his hands wasted someone else's money and came up with a load of malarkey so he can say he published something..I mean, who cares?

Karen :g1:

LisaM
08-23-2009, 05:35 PM
I didn't have time to take the entire test but I got the first 7 of 8 correct. I have no idea what that means.

Karen564
08-23-2009, 06:17 PM
Personally, I dont agree with that, I have always been able to read faces very well in real life, not some test..but some people hide their emotions very well, like I did, so you never know..

Sharon
08-23-2009, 10:04 PM
I have always felt that I was totally clueless about reading other people's facial expressions, but I got all but two correct in the first ten samples. I am probably as clueless as ever, however.

I have long ago learned that so called "tests" such as this one, the COGIATI, and others are completely meaningless, other than being possibly interesting parlor games.

Jennifer in CO
08-23-2009, 11:51 PM
30 out of 36...doesn't mean a hill o beans...or I've been watching "Lie to Me" way too much

Jenn

Aurora27
08-24-2009, 10:01 PM
Mmyeah, OK - "Oh, I'm having difficulty expressing my gender, and also I find I can't look at peoples faces and read their emotions..." Does anyone think the two are not really related? Would this hypothesis not carry over so that anyone feeling some level of stress, trauma and frustration in their lives would have a similar problem, if this does even occur? Does anyone even read emotion based purely on facial expressions? Bah, some people have too much money and time on their hands.

Byanca
08-25-2009, 01:04 AM
I mean, who cares?

Karen :g1:

Well, it is psychology. And this is a way they are working, and basing their opinions on. So I like to keep an eye on it.
I have not spoken to a psychologist, but will have to do that someday. And think it will be handy to have a bit of insight as to how their minds are working.

For all I know it might be one of these.



I have long ago learned that so called "tests" such as this one, the COGIATI, and others are completely meaningless, other than being possibly interesting parlor games.
Quite so.

But they do these kind of tests everywhere. Jobs(Mbti, personality). Military(IQ I think, not that I know..). Kids(cognitive abilities). Love(whats your love type) It's the world we live in, stribing for performance. And maybe we really have to. Since our comfort zone is kinda dependant on this.

/anyway, i'm rambling. I scored average.


30 out of 36...doesn't mean a hill o beans...or I've been watching "Lie to Me" way too much

Jenn
Excellent, that is a bit of invalidation of those stupid researchers. See, TV is good for something :D


Personally, I dont agree with that, I have always been able to read faces very well in real life, not some test..but some people hide their emotions very well, like I did, so you never know..
I think for me is more like picking up vibrations in the air. That's emotional recognition in a different way. More like the atmosphere.

So- I'm not even sure that this is what people do, actually reading other people like this. Maybe they where mistaken from square one. So my hunch was fine then, was sceptical when I read it.

/goofing out.

Byanca
08-25-2009, 01:07 AM
Mmyeah, OK - "Oh, I'm having difficulty expressing my gender, and also I find I can't look at peoples faces and read their emotions..." Does anyone think the two are not really related? Would this hypothesis not carry over so that anyone feeling some level of stress, trauma and frustration in their lives would have a similar problem, if this does even occur? Does anyone even read emotion based purely on facial expressions? Bah, some people have too much money and time on their hands.
That was what I think was weird as well, not how I operate at all.

Sammy777
08-25-2009, 04:07 AM
Take it for what it is.
I got 34 out of the 36 and the other two were 50/50 at best, LOL.

Not to mention they are not using 36 different photos.
They reuse quite a few which I find odd because if a look can mean two things then how good is this over all.

And any other of these tests I have ran across have done the same. [used the same pic over again].

I think its time the researchers spent a few bucks on 36 new photos instead of using these same ones over and over again. :lol2: