I sense a revolution

[CLARRISA]

Theres been lots of news in the press recently about crossdressing, and i strongly sense a change in attitute coming.....Have you read about the recent revelations that Jordens Boyfriend has admitted being a crossdresser and his comments were "...yea i'm a crossdresser ..so what?".... and you wouldn't want to mess with him either being a cage fighter.....also 2 yobs in swansea tried to pick on a crossdresser ...he floored them both................Implications....yobs will be more weary on who they pick on...women that look up to Jordon and are Wannebe types..may all want to follow her and create a trend of jordon alikes looking to date a crossdresser..like its the new cool.....The worlds getting better for us....The times are a changing.....Who else feels a revolutions coming?

[Paola Lobos]

I hope a change is coming, but I don't think it will come from being able to beat up the bigots.
Paola

[AndroRemi]

If any change is coming, it will be years from now. The Gay Rights Movement's still fighting its way through, and they've been at it for quite a while.

[Rachel_Red]

I hope so! CDing isn't always about sexual orientation, rather its about clothing in my opinion. I like how fem clothing looks and feels, but I'm still a guy and I still love my fiance and I like it when we dress up together and can talk fashion together.

What I've never understood is why a woman can go buy a bunch of guy clothing and wear it in public without being considered odd... sure she might not be hit on by guys as much but perhaps that was her goal. On the other hand men can't go into a woman's clothing store and buy stuff and wear it without being considered "odd".

In my opinion its other males that are the problem, I talked to my brother about it a while back and he always stated "I hate the idea of CDing because I don't want to hit on a guy," so in a way its homophobia that seems to be the largest problem. The people who seem to accept it are the people who see it as just clothing and a behavioral pattern. I'm not sure I'm just thinking out loud right now.

However I hope things change soon as a writer I hope to aid in that with some of my works.

[sissystephanie]

I do think a change is coming, in that the general public is being made more aware of the fact that there a lot of Crossdressers! BTW, I do my part! I go every day totally dressed enfemme, but with no wig or makeup. Just another guy in a skirt!!

This past Monday there was an article on the front page of the second section of the Atlanta Journal Constitution regarding the fact that the Cobb County (GA) School board had changed its mind regarding Crossdressing in schoolls. A high school had worn pink pumps and a pink wig to school and had been suspended. Turned out that other students, both male and female, had crossdressed at other high schools. Now the school board will not only allow it, but will make it possible for CD's to use a special bathroom and locker room for P.E.

I would send the URL for the article if I knew where to get it.

[Karren H]

Change is always coming..... it just never ever seems to arrive......

[Charla McBee]

Even if it does one day become acceptable to some extent, we are still going to be an extreme minority I'm afraid. And I still wouldn't tell many people.

[Fab Karen]

No idea who "Jorden" is. But yes, the more of us out & about in the real world, the faster change will come. "the revolution will not be televised."

[cdbrandi]

This past Monday there was an article on the front page of the second section of the Atlanta Journal Constitution regarding the fact that the Cobb County (GA) School board had changed its mind regarding Crossdressing in schoolls. A high school had worn pink pumps and a pink wig to school and had been suspended. Turned out that other students, both male and female, had crossdressed at other high schools. Now the school board will not only allow it, but will make it possible for CD's to use a special bathroom and locker room for P.E.

I would send the URL for the article if I knew where to get it.

I could not find the article you mentioned, but I did find a few about him being expelled:
http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/pink-wig-heels-on-157320.html?cxntlid=daylf_artr

http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/cobb-teen-told-he-156500.html

[StacyCD]

There are certainly more places where crossdressed individuals don't raise a lot of attention--that probably wasn't the case twenty years ago. So this is progress. I guess that we are all impatient and want it NOW!

[sissystephanie]

I could not find the article you mentioned, but I did find a few about him being expelled:
http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/pink-wig-heels-on-157320.html?cxntlid=daylf_artr

http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/cobb-teen-told-he-156500.html

I think it rather odd that those articles about the young man are in the archives, but not the one about him being readmitted to school. That is the one I was quoting!

[joannemarie barker]

The story about the cd beating the bigots up wasn't really a cd at all,it was 2 guys going to a fancy dress party

[PaulaJaneThomas]

If any change is coming, it will be years from now. The Gay Rights Movement's still fighting its way through, and they've been at it for quite a while.

Given that LGB people are fully protected in law against discrimination in employment and in the provision of goods and service and can enter into a Civil Partnership giving them the same rights and benefits as married people, I'd say they're on their way to winning their fight.

[PaulaJaneThomas]

No idea who "Jorden" is.

Katie Price.

[Fab Karen]

Given that LGB people are fully protected in law against discrimination in employment and in the provision of goods and service and can enter into a Civil Partnership giving them the same rights and benefits as married people, I'd say they're on their way to winning their fight.
Not in most of America.

[MiraM]

Given that LGB people are fully protected in law against discrimination in employment and in the provision of goods and service and can enter into a Civil Partnership giving them the same rights and benefits as married people, I'd say they're on their way to winning their fight.

Not where I live we are not. And if a certain candidate is elected Governor, we never will be. Even straight people in the state of Virginia are not protected in Domestic Partnerships. This candidate made sure of that while he was Attorney General. We are no where near winning the fight for equality in marriage or non-discrimination in the workplace, or any type of equality for GLBT community. There are even places where hate crime legislation to protect GLBT people has been struck down.

[PaulaJaneThomas]

Not in most of America.

The world is bigger than America (wherever that is. Turn left at Greenland?)

[Andy66]

Ooooohhhh... I love a good righteous revolution. I'm there. I'll even bring snacks.

[Kate Simmons]

There are basically two types of people, individuals and conformists. Individuals are usually themselves regardless. Conformists usually wait until something is popular or a revolution before they take the plunge.:)

[JennyS.]

There may be changes coming, I hope so. But, there are still idiots in the world.
Check out this article... It isn't about CD'ing, but sheez.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff

[Shelly67]

I think there maybe an attitude change towards cd's ect but I also consider it will only be driven by the media and how we are portrayed and only then perhaps accepted . People maybe more enlightened in attitude , accepting even , but I fear they are a minority . Its only when a newspaper sensationalizes a situation do most folk bother to take things on board . Think about it ... Jordan has over the last few months sensationalized her marriage break up . Her new partner is a " tranny " - so what ? Over here in in the UK most people couldnt give a toss about the woman , or whoever else shares her bed , they only ever remark on how her poor children will look back and take in what an embarressing lifestyle they've been brought into later in life. It makes me wonder if the chap as he probably becomes another notch on the girls bedpost , how will he react when it all goes belly up once again . Will he become ridicule and scorn by Jordan and the media ? After all , bad news sells so much better than good news .
I think in truth , we have a greater mountain to climb here .
I,m not getting on my soap box , but think of this - no matter what , we have all been goverend by a controlling media based on fear . Its now going to pick up , take root ( over here I think ) and develope into something even more ignorant and controlling , it certainly reflects that all too easily with political parties like the BNP gaining strenth in both membership and public attention . I mean , Homophobia is still abundant , do we need it nurturing ??
Its crazy to think of all those dear poor souls who fought and died to protect us from such parties and right wing stereotypes.
Then theres the real truth . It seems as though we still cannot communicate and accept each other in these " modern " times .

History always repeats itself .

Makes you think does'nt it ??

End of sermonn .:hugs:

[PaulaJaneThomas]

PS - just had a further thought. Who on earth are y'all expecting to run this revolution? Well, obviously, cross-dressrs, who else? That means us. You don't wait for revolutions, you make them. Get your heels on and get out there!

They won't. That would involve courage.

I, on the other hand, have been writing to and having face-to-face talks with national politicians about trans rights for several years.

[Rachel Morley]

I could not find the article you mentioned .....

I found one on Entertainmentwise.com. Hope this helps.


Katie Price's Boyfriend Alex Reid 'Is A Cross-Dresser Called Roxanne' (http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/50147/katie-prices-boyfriend-alex-reid-is-a-crossdresser-called-roxanne)

[JennyS.]

This Katie gets around, doesn't she.

[docrobbysherry]

Thanks, Rachel! Now I know who Alex Reid is.:)

But, I STILL don't have any idea who Katy Price, (Jordan), is!:brolleyes:

[Frédérique]

The world is bigger than America (wherever that is. Turn left at Greenland?)

Too true, Paula. I’m sorry we are so insular. Americans have lost sight of the fact that our country is made up of all the other countries in the world. As Eddie Izzard once said to a New York City audience: “Do you know there are other countries?” Some people cheered that question…


When is America going to join the modern world?

When we admit defeat, and start changing our behavior. I believe it’s going to happen someday, but probably not in my lifetime. It’s downright embarrassing…:o I mean, it's seemingly not quite as bad as it was, but...well, we'll see.

[CLARRISA]

Ok those men were just going to a fancy dress party, was still enough to provoke a couple of yobs into attack mode...but they came off worse...a yobs worse nightmare being beatup by what they think would be a soft target....Jordons a very famous Celebrity overhere...sure..not everyones cup of tea...not the point though, lots of impressionable people out there idolise her and other celebs of her ilk...now they're all going to be swept into thinking "hmmm shes got a crossdressing B/F....i want one too..cool"....its herd mentality..trust me i've observed the herd long enough to know how it thinks...and once you've got the herd on your side.. Revolution .....sorry i'm not meaning to sound patronizing or arrogant...just my opinions....

[Fab Karen]

The world is bigger than America (wherever that is. Turn left at Greenland?)
Your statement implied it's true everywhere, if you're speaking in world terms.
btw, I never said anything to imply America was all-important.

[sherri52]

Change is coming. I don't think I'll be around when it gets here but I hope so

[Lorileah]

When is America going to join the modern world?



We will have to debate it and run that through committee where we can add or delete anything that we deem not to be in our interest and then send it to the floor for more debate and probably back to committee before killing the bill because we don't want to anger the lobbyists. I would say we will join in about 40 more years. Please don't progress any further until we get there ok?

I would not pin our hopes on a cage fighter and a couple of people who were cornered by a couple of drunks. We will have to at the very least take to the streets at Pride events and do it as crossdressers not drag queens. Lessee general consensus here is the closet is nice and cozy, so why rock the boat? Revolution? No but I hear we might have a tea party if we can get 6 of us together who agree on anything.:Poke:

[kristinacd55]

Depends on what part of the country you're in (for US girls) as far as acceptance goes. Bigotry will go on & on & on & on but you've got to take it one day at a time!!

[Kate Simmons]

Just remember coming "out" is easy amd so is revolution. It's after that "main event" that stuff starts rolling downhill. That is where the real endurance comes in.:)

[Sarah Doepner]

It's not as much of a revolution as all of us here would like to see. No major battles, just little skirmishes. No consistent coverage or celebrity advocates, just a few viral youtube videos. Back in the late 1960's and early 1970's the counter culture was sure there was a revolution on the way. There were changes that were made and some things were different than before. The cultural pendulum swung one way and then back, leaving some things different than before. Long hair on men became acceptable, the gay rights movement began in earnest, more provocative women's styles became more common and yes, even crossdressers became more visible.

It all didn't last, but some of it had staying power. In this environment it's going to be a lot of very little steps before we see something as great as revolution. I'll be happy with continued evolution for the time being.

[Lorileah]

It all didn't last, but some of it had staying power. In this environment it's going to be a lot of very little steps before we see something as great as revolution. I'll be happy with continued evolution for the time being.

That's what complacency does. If you don't keep vigilant someone steals your hammock. Remember peace, love and equality? Now those same people are saying "Get off my grass you little whippersnapper, kids! Always into sex drugs and that rock and roll stuff."

Viva la revolution'

[Andy66]

Who on earth are y'all expecting to run this revolution? Well, obviously, cross-dressrs, who else? That means us. You don't wait for revolutions, you make them. Get your heels on and get out there!
27 years ago I left the Church because of their bigotry.
20 years ago I painted the town red with a crossdresser on Valentine's Day.
16 years ago I walked down the street hand in hand with another woman for the first time.

You could say I've been out there making revolutions for a long time, and I'm sure many people on this website have similar stories.

You're not making assumptions about people's social/political activism, are you? :naughty:

[Temptation]

Theres been lots of news in the press recently about crossdressing, and i strongly sense a change in attitute coming.....Have you read about the recent revelations that Jordens Boyfriend has admitted being a crossdresser and his comments were "...yea i'm a crossdresser ..so what?".... and you wouldn't want to mess with him either being a cage fighter.....also 2 yobs in swansea tried to pick on a crossdresser ...he floored them both................Implications....yobs will be more weary on who they pick on...women that look up to Jordon and are Wannebe types..may all want to follow her and create a trend of jordon alikes looking to date a crossdresser..like its the new cool.....The worlds getting better for us....The times are a changing.....Who else feels a revolutions coming?

what's a yob?

[Sallee]

I think for the most part people really don't care they may look and snicker but for the most so what. "You do your thing an I'll do mine" which is how it should be Every once in a while you get some who says your gong to hell but they are a very small minority.
It is up to us to come out thats the revolution

[shesadvl]

what's a yob?


here yer go temptation....

Yob may refer to:

Yobbo or Yob, an uncouth individual or thug
Yob (band), a doom metal band from Eugene, Oregon
"Yob" (song), a song by TISM

Yobbo or yob is a slang term for an uncouth or thuggish blue collar person. The word derives from a back slang reading of the word "boy" (boy or boyo reversed becomes yob or — slightly modified — yobbo).

In Britain, as the word 'yobb' came out of the London back slang and into more general English usage, it and latterly 'yobbo' have meant 'working class, adolescent, male person'. Within his own culture, he was not necessarily seen as uncouth, though a person writing about him rather than speaking of him was likely to be of another social class and prone to seeing him as loutish.

Means the same thing here as well.....

I saw the news Item that Clarrisa refers to it was hot news here, the Guy who attacked the CD'er or the person in female dress was drunk but because he didnt like guyz cross dressing decided to go back and have a go and got done by both people in the instance.

If they were going to a fancy dress dressed as these two were they looked good and gave what this guy wasnt expecting....

so perhaps a few more may think twice before impeding on CD'ers for fear of the same retribution.:battingeyelashes: if you call that revolution then perhaps then those that
do give CD'ers a hard time may think twice.

[jazmine]

The revolution is now!

[Blaire]

Given that LGB people are fully protected in law against discrimination in employment and in the provision of goods and service and can enter into a Civil Partnership giving them the same rights and benefits as married people, I'd say they're on their way to winning their fight.

Come here and say that?

[viviane]

Guys, as for as a revolution. There is much more acceptance of cross-dressing from society and females. Still there is some bigotry but it will always exist as long as people are not educated. Men use to wear tights as standard clothing so, it's possible.

Personal experience, after getting my hair done, I pretty my dress full-time (but also transitioning). Even before the transition, I dressed but not all the time because my reluctance to just be who I was.

Viv

[TGMarla]

Change is always coming..... it just never ever seems to arrive......


Touche!

[docrobbysherry]

Page to the Duke, "Sire, the villagers r REVOLTING!":eek:

Duke, " They CERTAINLY R!":brolleyes:

[PaulaJaneThomas]

Come here and say that?

No. You come here. The beer's better.

[Frédérique]

No. You come here. The beer's better.

Hmmmmm…:thinking: Tell us something we don’t know!

BTW, If you’re talking about a revolution, don’t you know that you can count me in/out? Oh, yeah…:clap:

[Deidra Cowen]

The revolution is now. I personally know probably close to 10 FT girls right here in Atlanta that work and live as females. A crazy crossdresser like myself can go dressed to the mall, resturants, bars, etc without any troubles...well for the most part. Don't go to the Waffle House enfemme after midnight among the drunks and rednecks...but you get the picture. :heehee:

One of the big Drag performers here in Atlanta a drag queen by the name of Charlie Brown did a monolog one night at a show. She remarked on how much the world had changed. Twenty five years ago her performers would come to the bar in guy mode and change. Now they dress at home and come to the bar in fem mode, something that would have gotten them beaten up 25 yrs ago.

Are things perfect heck no! But they are changing and we can have a lot more fun these days than was possible not too long ago.

[Sherry-Stephanie]

The revolution has already taken place in Europe. Cross-dressing has been cool here for the past 20 years.

When is America going to join the modern world?

You forget....we were settled by the Puritans....it will be a while I'm affraid.

[Karen564]

I found one on Entertainmentwise.com. Hope this helps.


Katie Price's Boyfriend Alex Reid 'Is A Cross-Dresser Called Roxanne' (http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/50147/katie-prices-boyfriend-alex-reid-is-a-crossdresser-called-roxanne)

Thanks for the link Rachel,

Katie was so sexy looking some years back, but now see she has her hands full with all the kids..she still looks great, but did like her as a blond better..

Although ..

Sorry Alex if you see this, please take no offence, but I'm still having a very hard time picturing you all dressed up, but do envy you for being able to share Katie's closet.. :hugs:

[Temptation]

The revolution has already taken place in Europe. Cross-dressing has been cool here for the past 20 years.
When is America going to join the modern world?

Cool? Well good for you. It's not that way in the USA.
But I wouldn't trade living here for living in France for anything.

[Rachel_Red]

You forget....we were settled by the Puritans....it will be a while I'm affraid.

Very true lol... that in its own has a huge issue tied to it that I will not go into right now.

[Nicole_LovesRay-Ray]

I hope things are changing for the better. It would be nice if someone could just be who they are without being so scared about what others would say.:drink:

[Jenniferpl]

Life is all about change. The world around us is changing at an ever faster rate. I think the outcome will be a case by case basis. I think a lot people are accepting, if you do not directly involve them. I have worked with and been around a lot gay people. As long as they left alone, they can do what ever they want with personal lives.

[Blaire]

No. You come here. The beer's better.

I won't dispute that... much.

Though, I'd have to disappoint you... I drink it cold.


Cool? Well good for you. It's not that way in the USA.
But I wouldn't trade living here for living in France for anything.

Oh, I dunno 'bout that. Some of my hottest clothes were bought in Paris. Now if they could only knock some sense into the taxi system...

[victoriamwilliams1]

Change is happening however not that fast! and it will take all of us to make it happen! For me in about 9 years ago I was called sir quite a bit however now when dressed I am Mam and miss! I think as we work to look better in our dressing and we accept our selves we notice that around ourselves people are accepting us. I will also say that for some it is because when dressed many have perfected the blend in look by dressing for the time of day.