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KaraChristine
10-19-2009, 01:12 PM
I just stumbled across a very informative website about transgender history. It's easy to forget that the issues we're dealing with are nothing new - people have been going through them (and developing solutions) throughout history. It's comforting to have some continuity with the past sometimes and our history also puts the current advantages into perspective when contrasted with some of the horrible struggles transgender people went through in the past:

http://jenellerose.com/htmlpostings/20th_century_transgender.htm

http://panachereport.com/channels/sensual%20intelligence/images/180px-ChristineJorgensenAPersonalAutobiography.JPG

Karen564
10-19-2009, 01:59 PM
Thanks Kara,

I love history..

And we think we have it rough today, I can only imagine what it was like then for when Christine went through this...She truly was such an amazing woman.. rip

Here's a link to the main site, it's old now, but still informative.. http://jenellerose.com


:hugs:

CharleneT
10-19-2009, 09:40 PM
Thank you very much Kara, it is good to dip back in history - on a regular basis! Nice to know where other's have tread, makes the current road seem easier (now) !

Charlene

Katelyn
10-21-2009, 06:52 AM
Thank You. Your thread has been referred to me by a very good friend of mine. I'll be taking a look at the link you've enclosed.

sandra-leigh
10-21-2009, 10:48 AM
I read through a number of screenfulls of the link provided, and I find myself disturbed by the several references to "separatist lesbians", and by the way that all of the references to lesbians seem to appear in negative contexts. The only exception I could see in any form was the event of one state's trans communities working with the gay and lesbian communities to get trans-inclusive legal protections enacted -- which at least implies that not all lesbians directly oppose trans people, but is not worded sufficiently strongly to imply any positive contributions from lesbians (as opposed to them hypothetically "sitting back and letting it happen").

I don't know enough about history or about what "lesbian separatists" are to know whether the record is objectively factual or is biased, but the impression I get is decidedly one of bias and selective presentation of facts.

Empress Lainie
10-22-2009, 11:12 AM
Pretty interesting Kara. But it really shows the inherent ignorance and self serving of the entire so called profeesion of psychiatry.

MJ
10-22-2009, 11:30 AM
like Christine Roberta Cowells story a British fighter pilot . from the same time
http://www.changelingaspects.com/Life%20Stories/Roberta%20Cowells%20Story.htm

also shocking srs in the 1030s the link http://www.carolrobson.co.uk/6.html
Lily Elbe Denmark

Artist

Underwent early form of SRS in 1930

1886-1931



Einar Wegener was a Danish artist who longed to be a woman, and she persuaded a surgeon to make her physically a woman. In 1930, in Berlin she underwent the transformative surgery--sexual reassignment surgery (SRS), we call it today. It wasn't enough. Lily wanted to be able to have children. A surgeon apparently believed it possible. It was rumoured she had ovarian and uterine tissue implanted. This proved to be fatal and she died shortly afterwards

carolinoakland
10-22-2009, 05:22 PM
And the only way we can ever pay back the effort to take those first steps. that made it just that easier for us to take that first step is to be brave for the one's who come after.

brenda lynn mwe
10-23-2009, 12:37 PM
hello kara
thank u for sharing your story with us I love history