Crossdressers and Science Fiction

[AmiFL]

I have been looking at everyone's profile and noticed an interesting common denominator. A lot of us here read sci-fi. I happen to love it too.

I could fill the page with authors names that i like. However everyone here should pick up the "Sex Gates" by Darrell Bain. It is a series of stories about gates that appear all over the world. Passing through one changes a person's sex. Sometimes permenantly, sometimes reversible. An interesting read.

So who else likes sci-fi out there, Let us all know.................

[Kate Simmons]

I find it very interesting, given that science and science fiction are beginning to merge as the reality program winds down. This is one of the indicators and it's no accident that a lot of TG folks read Sci-Fi.:)

[Miranda09]

I too love Sci-Fi. I'll have to pick up this book. Sounds like a classic Sci-Fi theme of "what if..." Thanks for posting. :)

[Jamie001]

I loved the Star Trek episode where Captain Kirk traded bodies with Dr Janice Lester. Too bad the episode didn't go into more detail about how it felt to be a woman. I love that episode.

[meri]

I really enjoyed the "Left Hand of Darkness" by Ursula K. Le Guin. The inhabitants of the planet Winter are androgynous and indifferent to all things sexual most of the time. However, when the mood grabs them, they gravitate toward one gender or another in order to procreate. Interesting concept --

[StephHamilton]

love sci-fi too...
do u know what episode of star trek that was. (love it)

[Lorileah]

I have to get that book. It seems to be a common tread in Sci-fi books. My favorite author who wrote about changing sexes was Jack L Chalker. I think it was the Well of souls set

[Vieja]

Oh Woe. To be a sci fi junkie is a terrible fate. I have a stack of scifi books that I can't get to because the library has so many good ones and I can't read them fast enough.


Vieja

[Lorileah]

love sci-fi too...
do u know what episode of star trek that was. (love it)

I think it was Turnabout Intruder

[MelanieCA]

Maybe somebody can help me out here.

I remember as a teenager reading a light-hearted science fiction book, about a group of people and the wonderfully weird things that happen to them when they modify Planck's constant.

What I remember most about this was a male character, who during some period when the laws of the universe were in flux, turned into a woman as some kind of wish fulfillment. He explained that it made sense, that he loved women so much he wanted to be one.

That's pretty much the only scene I remember about it (obviously). I'd love to read it again, but for the life of me I don't remember the title or author. I do think it was the first part of a series that I didn't continue.

Any ideas?

[Persephone]

I have been looking at everyone's profile and noticed an interesting common denominator. A lot of us here read sci-fi. I happen to love it too.

Interesting! But is it really because crossdressers read sci-fi more than others do? Or is it simply because there are lots and lots of sci-fi readers and some of us are also some of them?

I read someplace, but don't really know if it is true, that more contemporary sci-fi readers are women rather than men. Is this true?

Certainly in the "old days" of sci-fi it was definitely a guy read, but has that changed?


I could fill the page with authors names that i like. However everyone here should pick up the "Sex Gates" by Darrell Bain. It is a series of stories about gates that appear all over the world. Passing through one changes a person's sex. Sometimes permenantly, sometimes reversible. An interesting read.

I went to Amazon to order it and found that there were two different versions.

One appears to be part of a trilogy, with a cover that looks like this:http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/sandylewiscares/SexGatesCover.jpg

The other is supposed to be the "orginal version" :

"This is the Sex Gates novel as originally written by Darrell Bain alone. It has a completely different ending, and it contains one more major character and several more supporting ones. In this original version, all questions are answered and all issues resolved in this one book. It is being published now in response to all the fan mail and interest the trilogy generated?and continues to generate. The Sex Gates has already become a science fiction cult classic and this book should be a significant addition to the sex gates universe."

That cover seems to look like this:http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/sandylewiscares/OriginalSexGatesCover.jpg

Do you recommend one over the other?

[Stephanie-L]

Possibly the ultimate SF book on gender change is "I Will Fear No Evil" by Robert Heinlein. It is about a very rich man who is so afraid of dying that at his "death" he has his brain transplanted into another body, a woman's. This book is dated as are most of Heinlein's works of the era but it brings up a lot of interesting themes. What is gender, what is the nature of identity, what is love, how much of our personality is affected by our physical body, what are the legal, moral and societal ramifications of altering/changing one's body? As I said the book is rather dated, the "rich" man has only half a billion dollars. The sexual side of things is a bit over the top as Heinlein adult works often tend to be, I do not know if he thought the sexual revolution that was starting then would continue or he was just exploring his fantasies. Anyway, it is an interesting book and does make you think a bit.....Stephanie

[TxKimberly]

. . . However everyone here should pick up the "Sex Gates" by Darrell Bain. It is a series of stories about gates that appear all over the world. Passing through one changes a person's sex. Sometimes permenantly, sometimes reversible.. . .

I am a serious SciFi fan and have a house with paper backs stacked all over it. Sounds like an interesting book - gonna have to look it up!


I loved the Star Trek episode where Captain Kirk traded bodies with Dr Janice Lester. Too bad the episode didn't go into more detail about how it felt to be a woman. I love that episode.

Also one of my favorite episodes. I'm assuming that most SciFi fans here have read "I will fear no eveil" too?



I have to get that book. It seems to be a common tread in Sci-fi books. My favorite author who wrote about changing sexes was Jack L Chalker. I think it was the Well of souls set


Wow it's been years since I've thought of "The Well of Souls". I LOVED that series!

[KarenCDFL]

Another serious Scifi fan here too.

It seems this trend is more than a love of the genre. I have also noticed that quite a few of us are involved in some kind of technology or the sciences too.

I have always wondered why this is so. I have seen this trend since my Compuserve Gender Forum days back in the very early 1980's.

And P.S. to SYFY Channel, It is pronouced "SKIF FEE" not SYFY. It is amazing that our own channel is run by a bunch of Mundanes!

[meri]

Perhaps our love of Sci-Fi is related to crossdressing. In Sci-Fi, we escape our daily lives and are transported elsewhere into another world, time, place. In crossdressing, we are also transported into a fantasy body, we can become someone else if only for a short period of time.

I also love fantasy books for the same reason, they transport me to a different world and into the mind of someone else.

Could it be that we just don't have enough fun in our own lives? In our own skins?

[StaceyJane]

I love to read good action packed Sci Fi. I particularly like Peter F. Hamilton. One book that was discussed before on this forum was "Steel Beach". Apparently in the future sex changes will be quite common on the moon.

[Rebecca Jayne]

Kurt Vonnegut , Ray Bradbury, JR R Tolkien and Ill even mention Ken Kesey.

[Cristi]

As I was reading this thread, I was wondering if I was going to be the first one to mention "I Will Fear No Evil" by Robert Heinlein, but Stephanie-L beat me to it :)

Similar themes wound through a lot of Heinlein books. One character that appeared in many books in the Lazarus Long universe started off as a man, then ended up as female by the book "The Number of the Beast" ('slipstick' Libby).

Lazarus Long himself, through time travel and sex change during cloning, ended up being his own mother.

Finally, many of Heinlein's characters wore kilts, probably the most he could get away in the direction of 'crossdressing'. When I was young reading all of his books, I was pretty convinced that he was probably a closet crossdresser.

On a more general note... HELL ya I'm a died in the wool old school science fiction reader! I have probably ready every science fiction book worth reading written, starting with Jules Verne and H.G. Wells up through the present. Our library is now up over 1500 books, and those are just the ones we considered worth keeping.

There is one other particular book I read quite a while ago that I can't remember the name of... it might have just been a short story. Basically a young man wanted a disguise to hide from people who were looking at him and thought that if he were a woman nobody would ever find him. Somehow, over the course of a few weeks, he managed to control his body and slowly transformed himself into a woman. It turned out later in the story that he was an alien who had shape-shifting abilities, but he didn't know that at the time so was quite confused about what was happening to him.

I know I've read other scifi that had CD or trans plot lines. I'll post them as I remember.

And yeah... that Trek episode used to excite me SO much when it was on. I never knew why Kirk ever wanted to change his body back! :)


I particularly like Peter F. Hamilton.

I JUST finished reading my way through is books. Yeah, I was late but never discovered them earlier for some reason.

I tend, when I find a new author, to read everything that person has ever written since I'm so desperate for good books. Right now, I'm just finishing up another new find, John Scalzi. If you like good Heinlein 'space opera' scifi, read "Old Man's War". You will not be disapointed.

Anybody feel free to PM me with good book ideas!

[GINA-CD]

I'm reading now Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick which is the novel in which Blade Runner is based upon. Very good book and explains a lot that does not appear in the movie, even in the Director's Cut version which is the one I have.

[Emily01]

i'm an avid sci-fi fan too and i wish this theme were explored further and more often than it is. i suppose it would take one of us to have the passion to do that though.

it's an awfully common thing in sci-fi but it almost always lacks the wonder and contrast that i would experience. big sigh!!

[varinia]

All of you talking about Star Trek forgot about the episode "Return to Tomorrow" where for a short time Spock's essence was in Nurse Chapel. Spock must have thought it most illogical to have all those new sensations. :o

[erickka]

I am a sci-fi junkie myself. Roddenberry, Asimov, etc.Just to drop a couple of names.

[abigailf]

I love Sci-Fi. I am going to order Sex Gates. I was looking for a new read.

I just reread the R.A. Salvatore Drizzt series. It is an adventure novel in a fantasy setting about a character from an evil dark elf society that did not fit in because he was born with a good nature. Funny, I just realized the parity there (as I said before I am slow sometimes).

Does anyone remember the move Switch? It came out in the 90’s by Blake Edwards. A man who womanized blondes was murdered and god sent him back to earth as a blonde woman.

[TheresaJTS]

I love Sci-Fi. I am going to order Sex Gates. I was looking for a new read.

I just reread the R.A. Salvatore Drizzt series. It is an adventure novel in a fantasy setting about a character from an evil dark elf society that did not fit in because he was born with a good nature. Funny, I just realized the parity there (as I said before I am slow sometimes).

Does anyone remember the move Switch? It came out in the 90’s by Blake Edwards. A man who womanized blondes was murdered and god sent him back to earth as a blonde woman.

Switch was a remake of the movie Goodbye Charlie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058154/

which was a remake of I believe a french film.

Another version from 1985 TV http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0250409/

[Lorileah]

All of you talking about Star Trek forgot about the episode "Return to Tomorrow" where for a short time Spock's essence was in Nurse Chapel. Spock must have thought it most illogical to have all those new sensations. :o

Nope that is a different episode. But it shows that Gene Roddenberry used that idea twice. Thanks for bringing that up

The one where Kirk and Dr Janice Lester switched was "Turnabout Intruder"

And we know that Kirk wasn't normal, otherwise he would have opted to keep Dr Lester's body and wear those mini outfits. Shows you that the whole Star Trek thing was fiction. Raise your hands who here would have stayed as Dr Lester?:??

[DiannaRose]

I both read and write sci-fi--but since I've only ever published under my male name, and since I'm not yet ready to link that name with Dianna, I'm afraid I shall withhold the details, for now. But trust me, I'm pretty a good writer. ;)

My sci-fi is Christian-based but not necessarily Christian-themed, and I hope to one day start publishing stories under Dianna's name as well. We'll see. I've started a blog penned by Dianna (see my siggy below), so hopefully I can expand on and add to that.

But yes, I grew up on science fiction and still love it to this day. All kinds. Sometimes drives my wife a little nuts, but then she must be a little nuts anyway to have married me. :)

Any other writers out there? PM or Friend me and we can talk clothes AND writing! :)

[DiannaRose]

Raise your hands who here would have stayed as Dr Lester?:??

Oh, you know it, girl! I actually fantasized about it when I first saw that episode. :)

[Lorileah]

I both read and write sci-fi--but since I've only ever published under my male name, and since I'm not yet ready to link that name with Dianna, I'm afraid I shall withhold the details, for now. But trust me, I'm pretty a good writer. ;)



OMG! You aren't H.G Wells are you!?!?!~ ;)

[DiannaRose]

i'm an avid sci-fi fan too and i wish this theme were explored further and more often than it is. i suppose it would take one of us to have the passion to do that though.

it's an awfully common thing in sci-fi but it almost always lacks the wonder and contrast that i would experience. big sigh!!

Emily, surely there are other writers besides myself here in the family...I, for one, have always loved the "switching sex" theme (naturally!), and have always wanted to pen a story around it, ever since I was a teen. Perhaps, now that Dianna is coming into her own as a person (slowly, admittedly), I can find some time and inspiration to write up a story or two under her name!

:)

[DiannaRose]

OMG! You aren't H.G Wells are you!?!?!~ ;)

If I am, I'm unaware of it. Though, come to think of it, Wells *is* one of my favorite influences, and I love everything I've ever read of his. Perhaps there *is* something to this reincarnation thing! :)

[TxKimberly]

. . . Raise your hands who here would have stayed as Dr Lester?:??

Umm . . . are you forgetting that she was dying of something or other. Capt Kirk would have enjoyed the instant gender change for only a very brief time . . .

[claire2454]

Hi All i am too a si fi girl just love it star trek, (all of them) well most off them

hugs to all............:hugs:

[dennisGTS]

Sci-Fi fan here also!

Grew up watching Star Trek (all generations) and Starwars.

I am a big fan of all the Stargate series to include the movie. Now watching SG-U. I loved watching Battlestar Galactica.

I will usually watch most Sci-Fi movies! I'm very interested in how the new V series will turn out compared to the original campy early 80's tv series. Bottom line, anything Sci-Fi, I'll usually want to watch it!

Not only do I love Sci-Fi, but am deeply interested in the "space" documentaries shown on the Science, Discovery, and National Geographic channels.

You can call me a Cross Dressing Sci-Fi Geek!!!

[Christine Andrews]

Another Sci-Fi fan here!

In terms of TV - Star Trek (all*), Stargate SG1/Atlantis, Dollhouse, Firefly, Buffy, Angel, Sarah Connor Chronicles and have just discovered Battlestar Galactica (a little late I know...).

*Though I have only seen the Original crew in the films. I do now have the series on DVD though.

In terms of books, I absolutely love Day of the Triffids (Wyndham), Clockwork Orange (Burgess), War of the Worlds/Time Machine (Wells), I Am Legend (Matheson) and (Fantasy) The Hobbit (Tolkein).

I am looking to read at some point The Chysalids (Wynham), Islan of Dr Moreau (Wells) and 1984 (Orwell)and from there Tolkeins Lord of the Rings.

Sci-Fi is the perfect way to escape for a little while and explores many themes in the process.

[ginafaye]

i love the what if and why not of sci fi, discovery ,nova ,star trek just about all of it cant wait for the 2012 movie

[Anna the Dub]

Another sci fi fan here, and I also read a lot of fantasy. I especially like multi volume epics, the thicker the books the better.

[kateyliz]

I have loved scifi since I first found out it existed when I was in 4th or 5th grade. Also I am now a retired chemist so I fit the tech vocation too. Hugs, Kathy

[Rachaelb64]

Yep another sci-fi here :)

[Frédérique]

So who else likes sci-fi out there, Let us all know.................

Yes, I read science fiction, but not so much the past few months, ever since I got active on this site. I’m not a great lover of fiction, but I like a decent space story. Since the U.S. and other nations are trying their utmost to grow tomatoes in space (thanks to Carl Sagan for that line :)), I’ll be stuck with fictitious descriptions of EXPLORATION…

I’ve read many of Arthur C. Clarke’s novels, and several by Jack McDevitt, plus a few others here and there. I like descriptions over character development, a sense of wonder vs. space opera. I also like imaginative takes on aliens and “first contact,” but these are hard to come by. I’d write one myself, but I’m a visual artist, not a writer. How many have seen the paintings of Chesley Bonestell? Now, that’s an active imagination! I think Mr. Bonestell got me interested in space way back when, and I’m still fascinated by what might be out there. The book Expedition by Wayne Barlowe (along with the TV version Alien Planet) is close to what tickles my fancy. I tend to avoid Earth-based science fiction, but I may get into it at a later date -- deep space is my "thing." :thinking:

[Kathi Lake]

Yup. A serious sci-fi geek here (less emphasis on the serious part, but a heapin' helping of geek!). I used to go to conventions in the 70's, have first editions of every Star Trek book - some even signed, have the original Enterprise blueprints, tech manual, etc.

I cut my teeth on authors such as Asimov, Bradbury and Clarke, and moved on to Heinlein, and many others. I prefer "hard" sci-fi to fantasy. For instance, C.J. Cherryh is a favorite, but the only books of hers I've read are the Cyteen series and the station-type books.

Anyway, here's a couple of obscure books with sex-change themes;

Hopscotch - where people have the ability to move their consciousness back and forth between bodies. There are some great scenes where a girl is now in her friend's male body while he is in hers and she lets him know just how and where girls are different. :)

The Identity Matrix - Another Jack Chalker book where changing sexes is a prevalent theme. A man is trapped in various bodies - most of them female, it seems.

The Procrustean Petard - a short story from the Star Trek Log series based on the animated series - the Enterprise is trapped on a planet where everyone is beamed down and their sex is changed genetically. To escape, one pair of the crew who were already engaged volunteer to stay swapped. What a sacrifice, eh?

[Lorileah]

Umm . . . are you forgetting that she was dying of something or other. Capt Kirk would have enjoyed the instant gender change for only a very brief time . . .

Dang Kim, why must this be so hard? Can't we get a break? and why haven't those cute little uniforms caught on in the US military yet?

[Caroline C]

Sci-fi / outer space is my favorite movie and television. Unfortunately I don't have the time or attention span to read a book. Rod Serling is my favorite followed by a close second Gene Roddenberry's original Star Trek. My favorite miniseries from the Sci-fi channel is The Lost Room. I also liked the original V, Interested in how the new series will turn out.

[Emily01]

with respect to the notes about the Well of Souls series by Chalker.....in the last book Nathan Brazil lives his new life on earth as a female while his last female consort is the male.

i recall reading those pages and being so disappointed in Chalker because he did so darn little with that!

as for going to the Well World and passing through it's important to remember you can't pick which species you will be only it wouldn't be the one you arrived as.....so one could easily end up a female arachnid ~ YUK!! lol

[PrincessTia]

I found the Heinlein book to be rather mysoginist in it's treatment of the subject. I didn't mind that, since I enjoy his brand of misogyny as being informed by the 40s and 50s of his generation and not truly as being against women.

He just has a very specific view of love/sex that we are still not ready for. I didn't really get it on the first read through. Then I read Stranger in a Strange Land, and all his other writing suddenly made sense.

Tia

[Persephone]

Hopscotch - where people have the ability to move their consciousness back and forth between bodies. There are some great scenes where a girl is now in her friend's male body while he is in hers and she lets him know just how and where girls are different. :)

Kevin J. Anderson?

[Joanne f]

" What do you mean Science Fiction "
It is all real to me :daydreaming:

[abigailf]

Umm . . . are you forgetting that she was dying of something or other. Capt Kirk would have enjoyed the instant gender change for only a very brief time . . .

But this was Star Trek. Had Kirk been stuck in her body, Bones would have found a cure.

[docrobbysherry]

Was a collection of shorts sci-fi stories I read when I was young. Don't remember the author. There was one VERY GRAFFIC story of a man suddenly changed into a fat, older woman!:eek: I've obviously never forgotten it!



Does anyone remember the move Switch? It came out in the 90’s by Blake Edwards. A man who womanized blondes was murdered and god sent him back to earth as a blonde woman.

Was that Ellen Barkin? I remember she did a GREAT ACTING JOB! And I saw it BEFORE I started dressing!:brolleyes:

Always been a big sci-fi fan! Saw 2001 in theaters MANY times! Including a couple at the Hollywood Cinerama dome!:D

[Lorileah]

But this was Star Trek. Had Kirk been stuck in her body, Bones would have found a cure.

Oh yeah!

"Dammit Jim I'm a doctor not a...oh! I'm a doctor, hand me that transistor radio thingy and some one make an electronic sound while I wave this salt shaker over Jim. There good as new AND I made you a virgin again! Oh oh I left his learing libido intact! Step Back JIM! I'm your doctor dammit!!! Go talk to Sulu."


I know...time out Lori.

[JustAlex]

I love Sci-Fi but I'm very picky about authors.

Asimov is one of the most popular but I don't really like it. I've read him and enjoyed some of his works but I usually stay away from him.
I love Arthur Clarke, it's kind of heavy as a writer but their stories make a lot of sense for being Sci-Fi. It's one of the most scientifically accurate Sci-Fi authors.
Curiously, I like Farmer a LOT. I've read the River World saga many times in English and in Spanish. And, scientifically, it makes no sense at all.
Almost all authors have their own "theory of the Universe". Farmer with the River World, Clarke have many like Rama and 2001/10/30 (I didn't like the last one), Asimov has one whose name eludes me.
It's like watching many different religions.

Other's that I like a lot are Bradbury, although I like more his not Sci-Fi works like The country of October, and Verne, I read almost all his works before I got 15.

Are you saying that there's a link between CDing and Sci-Fi?

It could be a link Sci-Fi --> Nerd --> Basement --> Closet --> CD

Or because in the future everyone dress exactly the same, those full body things, all same color. We're just trying to accelerate the process by eliminating the use of half of the current diverse clothing universe. Maybe less than that, the female "half" is more diverse than the male "half". So, we're not doing it the right way...

[Carole Cross]

I am also a Sci-fi fan and I love all the Star trek series and Starwars. I used to read a lot of books when I was younger, such as HG wells, Arthur C Clarke and other less well known authors. I did try to write a story myself, but never finished it, if I have time in the future, after my transition, I may try again.

[Sarah Doepner]

The ones I remember have been mentioned; "Well of Souls" by Chalker and "Steel Beach" by Varley, but I'm still on the lookout for more. Norman Spinrad was always a favorite of mine, "Void Captain's Tale" and "Saturday's Child" come to mind where he addresses gender and sex, but without the change part.

Why do we like it? I think it's because the promise of positive ideals, personal and societial growth expressed in print tends to validate and reinforce our beliefs and desires. We read fantasy and science fiction for the same reason we come here, we look for a connection that will help us feel less alone in a world that sometimes seems to be alien itself. We can see there is an acceptance, and even encouragement of diversity in those various futures, again something we desire in the here and now.

Historical fiction, horror, love stories and shoot 'em ups, don't contain any of that. We are a bunch of idealists it seems, so we gravitate toward the idealism that underlies SF.

Or it could be we like to look at the exaggerated bodies of semi-dressed women on the covers.

[Joanne108]

Maybe somebody can help me out here.

I remember as a teenager reading a light-hearted science fiction book, about a group of people and the wonderfully weird things that happen to them when they modify Planck's constant.

What I remember most about this was a male character, who during some period when the laws of the universe were in flux, turned into a woman as some kind of wish fulfillment. He explained that it made sense, that he loved women so much he wanted to be one.

That's pretty much the only scene I remember about it (obviously). I'd love to read it again, but for the life of me I don't remember the title or author. I do think it was the first part of a series that I didn't continue.

Any ideas?

The book is Master of Space and Time by Rudy Rucker. I read it too and I loved it. I might even still have the paperback.

[Nicole Marie]

It isn't so much a coincidence that most TG individuals like Sci-Fi . Most TG individuals are very intelligent (statistically-speaking as per my therapist) and it is that trait that draws us towards Sci-Fi as a favorite, IMHO!

[Toni_Lynn]

I think it was Turnabout Intruder

GH! IMHO - that is the about the absolute worst Star Trek episode ever -- (actually Who Mourns for Adonais is the worst)! Although I am a Star Trek fan I absolutely hated it, because -- well -- I hate the way sci fi stuff uses the TG element. In fact in most cases I find it to be trite and condescending, in fact almost stereotyped. In the case of this episode, Kirk could have swapped bodies with any other person, human or not, and the same story could have been written -- the TG angle added nothing to it.

I particularly hate the way that authors at a particular TG fiction website write a sci-fi story, have a character change gender and the totally abandon the TG element. At times I think that the site in question should call itself scifimania.com (or bodyswapmania or magicmania). At least they don't totally deceive by calling it tgmania

All that said, I do like regular non-TG sci-fi such as Psi Factor, Sliders, Alienation and V. Of the Star Trek franchise, I think that Voyager was the best of the lot. The fact that the Captain, Janeway, was female made it very appealing. Yes, and right -- I'd die for a body like 7 of 9.

I'll pass on Battlestar Galactica and Star Wars --yawn.

Huggles

Toni-Lynn

[Kathi Lake]

Kevin J. Anderson?Yup! Anderson it was.


GH! IMHO - that is the about the absolute worst Star Trek episode ever -- (actually Who Mourns for Adonais is the worst)!Oh Toni, I don't think so. IMO, the worst episode ever was The Omega Glory (E Plabnista, anybody? :)

Kathi

[VeronicaMoonlit]

Yup! Anderson it was.

Oh Toni, I don't think so. IMO, the worst episode ever was The Omega Glory (E Plabnista, anybody? :)

Kathi

E PLEBnista, not Plabnista! Don't make me get out the Blish novelizations and beat you over the head with them.

Also, "And The Children Shall Lead" is the worst. (pumps arm to use the Gorgan power to make everyone agree!) And I will not mention that I wanted to be Pamelyn Ferdin in Space Academy just because she had a guest appearance in this episode of Star Trek TOS.

Veronica Rogers

[Daphne Renee]

I am a sci-fi fan. I dont read often at all though. I do enjoy star trek and star wars. I think the last book I read close to this was more in the fantasy genere. Its been quite some time but I think its was pool of radience of maybe Elminster.

[Kathi Lake]

E PLEBnista, not Plabnista! Don't make me get out the Blish novelizations and beat you over the head with them.Oh, all right. Since mine are behind a bunch of other books, I'll have to defer to you. :)


Also, "And The Children Shall Lead" is the worst. (pumps arm to use the Gorgan power to make everyone agree!)

Veronica RogersOh, come ON!! a friendly angel played by a famous lawyer? What's not to love? :)

Kathi

[VeronicaMoonlit]

Oh, all right. Since mine are behind a bunch of other books, I'll have to defer to you. :)

Oh, come ON!! a friendly angel played by a famous lawyer? What's not to love? :)

Kathi

Oh all right, I think we can all agree that Fred Freiberger was no Gene Roddenberry.

And yes, I like SF.

Veronica Rogers

[MissyW]

Love sci-fi

[Toni_Lynn]

Yup! Anderson it was.

Oh Toni, I don't think so. IMO, the worst episode ever was The Omega Glory (E Plabnista, anybody? :)

Kathi



Also, "And The Children Shall Lead" is the worst.

You both do have a point there -- both first rate stinkers!

Best -- IMHO -- The Trouble With Tribbles and The Menagerie. In fact -- The Menagerie is a great allegory about what it is to be a CDer/ TG in many ways

Huggles

Toni-Lynn

[Josephine 1941]

Hi Ami, I to am a sci fi fan. I have another one for everybody, My GG Has study in India an has moved along in the culture. When we met 4 yrs ago I told her right off the bat that I cross dressed. No problem she said, as our lives moved on and we became more and more involved with one another. About a year into our relationship she said to me one evening as I was dressed as a women, you have taught me what my master has been saying for yrs. I asked what? and she said that our souls are both male an female. Being with you i under stand it now, as your soul is both and you have learned to live with it. Being brough up a catholic I was intrested in what she was talking about. Moving into 2009/10 I have learned that in the India culture and religion there is both in a person. She has come around in that she is no longer afraid of her male side. Needless to say we have a very interesting life, Sci-Fi no I think that we are ent- a tees living in a human body an we come back to this world to live a life eather male or female and some times both < CD's > to do some thing to grant us a place in the next plane , if we don't do it right back we come to try again. I my self belive that right now for me I am both male and female so the CD ing. Interesting concept MAYBE ????????? JO :daydreaming::confused2::eg::^5::itsok::thinking:: fs::sw::rofl::rofl::lol2::lol2::lol2: