Tramp vs Classy

[MissKara]

Hey Girls :daydreaming:

I don't know how this topic is going to go down, but it's something that has been on my mind a lot recently. Its about the view by society that CD's are bad.

When I first met Karla and was doing research, I have to say I was repulsed to see that the majority of CD based sites contained nothing but CD's looking like they are trying to imitate porn stars, CD's looking ****ty and giving a bad name to the community at large.

Ok, I try and dress with class. No panties/thongs showing above my dress, a good looking top and a knee length of longer skirt, Nice hair and normal makeup.

To this day, I still see this coming up a lot which I don't think helps towards the negativity in general populous. I like sites where the photos are of CDs doing normal woman's stuff or are dressed formally/conservatively, not looking like they are tramps.

What are your thoughts on this subject?

Lots of Love,
Miss Kara :love:

Ps. Sorry if this doesnt make much sense. I didnt get my sleep last night

[Barbara Jo]

I have to agree.
The main reason I was first attracred to this site is that it seems to have much more class than the oithers I have seen.

[victoriamwilliams1]

I agree and I will say most of it is for attention which everyone has a choice to grab for it. For me I stay classy.

[VanessaVW]

I have to agree.
The main reason I was first attracred to this site is that it seems to have much more class than the oithers I have seen.

I agree completely with you. I have been very offended by many bad websites and images. This one is good, and I'm looking forward to many more visits and postings.

Hugs,

Vanessa

[Jilmac]

I have to agree with you Karla, I have visited many sites where the dressers are so overdone they actually look fake. I think the vast majority of girls on this forum have enough class to blend into almost any situation and not attract negative attention. But to take it even a step farther, the media portrays us as flambouyant, eccentric, and gay which further erodes our credibility.

[sherri52]

You won't find much of the dressing for the public here. Those of us here dress for ourselves and are not trying to please others. We may be trying to pass as best we can, but it is not for the enjoyment of anyone but ourselves. Those that dress as stars ar trying to be noticed we are trying to blend in without being noticed

[Samantha Girl]

There are trashy women and there are classy women. Do all trashy women give women as a whole a bad name?

I usually don't get annoyed with topics but I got to say I completely disagree with what your saying. I do not represent all CDs, and WHY should I? I'm supposed to care about what a person thinks who lumps everyone of a certain type together arbitrarily? Screw that!

I represent me. I don't dress up like a lady, I dress like a tramp... deal with it! :devil:

Sorry for the attitude but the premise of this thread is ridiculous in my opinion. You're essentially attacking CDs (like me) who don't adhere to YOUR IDEA of what a women is, not cool. I dress the way that makes me feel good, don't know why it's such a big deal to you.

If I could only dress as a woman conservatively... I wouldn't dress at all :)

[MissKara]

There are trashy women and there are classy women. Do all trashy women give women as a whole a bad name?

I usually don't get annoyed with topics but I got to say I completely disagree with what your saying. I do not represent all CDs, and WHY should I? I'm supposed to care about what a person thinks who lumps everyone of a certain type together arbitrarily? Screw that!

I represent me. I don't dress up like a lady, I dress like a tramp... deal with it! :devil:

Sorry for the attitude but the premise of this thread is ridiculous in my opinion. You're essentially attacking CDs (like me) who don't adhere to YOUR IDEA of what a women is, not cool. I dress the way that makes me feel good, don't know why it's such a big deal to you.

If I could only dress as a woman conservatively... I wouldn't dress at all :)

I wasn't trying to have a go at anyone, I was putting forward my reaction to it and seeing how other people felt about it. On a level it does annoy me, but thats also coming from the fact that I have never really been attracted to Trashy people to begin with.

In no way was I meaning that people are not allowed to dress how they dress. The opposite in fact, I admire people for their own choices instead of them following Joe public like sheep.

If I did manage to offend people, I am truly sorry :cry::cry::cry:

I was also just asking to see if my feelings towards it was wrong, no need to bite my head off :(

Lots of Love,
Miss Kara

[Samantha Girl]

Thanks for that. It just felt like you were saying certain people are give CDing a bad name. I appreciate the apology but I still feel a bit insulted, though I understand that wasn't your intention ;)

I totally understand and agree about the atmosphere here because it's about sharing and community, it's not a competition. I don't dress trashy for attention, I do it cause it makes me feel good! :)

[fjrpilot]

I feel the same way, we face issues of all different types and from many different angles. I enjoy this forum and you ladies. The information and support here is awsome.

[MissKara]

I don't dress trashy for attention, I do it cause it makes me feel good! :)

And if what you do because it makes you feel good, then thats all that matters :hugs:

I too love the support in this forum. Before I found here, i didnt know where I could turn when I need to ask a question or for advise. Everyone here is soo lovely

Lots of Love,
Miss Kara

[Barbara Dugan]

What I love of being Barbara is that I can dress anyway I want sometimes I feel to be classy other times I love to be trashy . I share the opinion this is the best site for the cross dressing community and I am really sorry If sometimes I am flambouyant, eccentric, and gay but I just can't help it:hugs:





When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I am better~ Mae West

[Karren H]

I tried trashy.... just dosen't do anything for me at all....

[docrobbysherry]

That some adults DON'T believe in Santa Claus!:sad:

Or that, some CDs DON'T believe CDing has ANYTHING to do with sex!:doh:

Now, I wonder if that has ANYTHING to do with the TYPE of clothes some CDs wear?:brolleyes:

[linnea]

The best I can do is to look as good as possible, and for me, the classic style is best and what I feel most comfortable in.
For others, there are a number of possibilities that I would not look good in. Not all of them are trashy.

[Kerigirl2009]

Oh I have to totally 100% agree. I do not want to look like a streetwalker. Sorry but if I dress I want to look normal and as close to passable as I can get. That look is not my taste at all. :) I want to look like a girl and that is all. To look more like a respectable woman (like my wife) Sorry hunny, but .........:)

[DressyJenny]

I prefer to look classy and like a lady. Outside of the occastional short skirt, I really don't need to dress in a trashy way. Its more fun being ladylike.

[Lorileah]

so I don't dress wrong what exactly does a tramp look like?

Who makes this decision?

[karennjcd]

Everyone here I am sure does what makes them most happy and what they can do given their living and work situations. That said there are many looks we can achieve when we cross that gender line and wear women's clothes. Truth is, what is classy to some might be trashy to others, and vice versa. But the "trashier" you are, the more that perhaps you're forgetting you're a crossdresser. I mean if the interest is in dressing, then why show too much skin? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

I, too, enjoy this site because there are morals observed and everyone can go at their own pace while being resepectful of what others enjoy. I've seen pictures in other places where a CD "forgot" to put on panties and what's showing under the skirt does not go along with the feminine image. :devil:

But there may be room for some trashiness as well. Just look at the number of costumes we can buy online to portray nurses, policewomen, fictional characters, schoolgirls, etc. As long as we enjoy what we do and are digified in how we present that image to others, so what if it's a little naughty? We may not sure our bare legs in full, but a thigh high white stocking gives us an element of naughtiness while only showing a minimum of skin depending on how short the skirt above it is.

Karen:battingeyelashes:

[MaryAnn40c]

We are tring to fit in with GG's sometimes we are trashy and sometimes we are classy. We are no different than GG's its all in were we are going....clubbing,work,shopping ect. The older we get the more we grow out of the trashy trends.

[txrobinm]

Society in general is hopefully becoming more tolerant of us because they see trans people (I use that term loosely) blending instead of looking like every night is Halloween.

This is an old debate. If you want folks to stop harassing us, based on the goodness of their hearts and not in fear of the law (what law there is), it behooves you to dress appropriately for the venue. This is common sense. We are already on the fringe, let's not make it worse by looking over-sexed, as the British would put it.

That said, we do all have the right to wear what we want when we want. As with free speech, however, there may be consequences to that speech (not from the government, but from the general populace with whom we interact). For example, I can say my boss is a jerk (she's not, she's really great!), but I'd be foolish to think there'd be no ramifications from such a statement. Treat your dressing in a similar manner, please.

[NatalieBliss]

While I agree that skimpier clothes on a CD maybe off putting to those outside the community, I think the reason is that it perpetuates the stereotype created by things like the Jerry Springer show.

That being said I would rather there be 100 scantily clad good ambassadors than 1 modestly dressed bad apple.

[Mistybtm]

I dress both ways depends on my mood and who i may be with that knight, if they want trampy then that is how i dress but for the most part i dress classy when i have no pending date. :2c:

[crusadergirl]

Classy isn't my style at all. And i don't think i'm in to dressing as a tramp. So i guess i'm something different are nothing at all.
Not in to blending in never have never will. I wear what i want and i do it for myself not others. So whats better classy are trashy there both good, can't say whats better for me b/c i'm still trying to find the look i want.

[Lilith Moon]

Surely, if the overriding concern were to fit in then the answer is simple...dress as everyone expects...in guy clothes. (That applies to our F to M members as well, of course :heehee: )

Facetious remarks aside, I like dressing "tarty" sometimes. It all depends on the venue, the occasion and my own mood. I think that there is a tendency to polarize into two camps here. One view being that it is all about gender and expression, trying to look like the woman inside feels. The other view is that it is all about sex and fetishism, getting off on wearing sexy outfits. I don't think it is that simple. For example I've known GGs who sometimes love to to look sexy...tarty...who love a bit of :dom:

I do get a sexual rush from dressing in a provocative "trampy" way and I also get a sense of fulfillment by presenting as a well dressed female. There's no either/or I enjoy both.

Lil

[Samantha Girl]

so I don't dress wrong what exactly does a tramp look like?

Who makes this decision?

I'm with Lorileah ;)

[baby beluga]

yes, most crossdressers dress like tramps

[Claire Cook]

I don't know about "classy", but I do know that the last thing I want to do is attract attention from men -- or attract a lot of attention in any case. So I tend to dress comfortably, and wear what other girls are wearing. Hopefiully that means "nice".

[Jenny Gurl]

I'm still trying to make sure what my real identity is, which I'm pretty sure I've done at this point.

You girls are understanding, loving, nurturing, and (at least not a lot) competitive at all. This site is like a safe house for those of us who just want to talk, get answers, and ask questions about our lifestyle.

OK I'm getting teary eyed, group hug:hugs::hugs:



I guess I fall in the classy group. I just want to blend. I like this site because it is full of girls who actually understand each other. Lots of good information here from girls who have been through it all and are willing to share with each other. :hugs:

[KarenHiller]

I dress to please myself and to fit in. Luckily both are the same. I dress like the girls I knew back in the 60's. My mother never wore pants or shorts, so I guess I'm a bit like her. I wish women's styles had been locked into the 60's fashion. Back then it was so easy to find lacy lingerie and cute dresses. I never felt out of place when I went out in a dress and heels back then.

Ah, the "good old days"

[Sarasometimes]

I aim for CLASSY (Hopefully my aim is good). It is tough enough to sneak by unnoticed when I really try to blend that I don't need to bring more attention then is necessary. I was talking to a store manager at a mail order place for our community and he said that sure there are some of us who are in between but most of his clients either want classy and elegant or the other extreme and that is how they choose thier stock.

[Angie G]

I dress on the classy side most of the time I do trash it up from time to time.I don't go out dressed so is hot an issue as far as some one seeing me and thinking badly of us.I know what your saying hun.And do think that image could hurt the way some think of us. It will most likely always be that a few put the negative to all of us.:hugs:
Angie

[drushin703]

I seem to look better when ime in a short, tight, skirt.no pants here
in this wordrobe.dana

[Lorileah]

I am still trying to get what is classy. Classy to me would be a full Christian Dior gown, clutch purse, strappy heels and your hair in an up do. Think Audrey Hepburn. I think what every one here means is "Classic" which still has way more meanings than looking like a school marm or June Cleaver. You cannot even say stylish because styles change so much and mini and short skirts are the in "Style" area now.

Let's say you dress conservative. No that doesn't work either because conservative dress is slacks or slack suit (think Hillary). Since we are tagging styles I'll call it frumpy and boring.

Once again there will never be a consensus over what we should wear. The OP was making the point that this site does not allow vulgarity. That is a lot different than trashy (when I think that I think Daisy Dukes, crop tank top, overly done blue eye shadow and out of date wedge heels...but maybe there is someone here who that is "their" look...) It is a good point that this site caters to helping people and supporting people (no matter how they like to dress) but doesn't allow overtly sexual posts or pictures. Unfortunately those are the people who are setting our representation in the world. I will stress once again as long as the majority of TG's decide to blend or hide, the sexual deviates on the other sites win. If you don't like be branded as one of "them" get out and be one of "you."

[Andie56]

Styles and ideas change trashy today exotic tommorrow. And in the eye of the beholder? In my "other" life I wouldnt let my daughter out of the house in some of the things I LIKE to wear..... ummmm different subject! Any way we all should be free to express who we are!

[abigailf]

I represent me. I don't dress up like a lady, I dress like a tramp... deal with it! :devil:


Samantha, I checked out your pics. They don't come off trampy to me. Sexy, yes and you pull it off well.

I think dressing trampy and classy vs this site and that site are different threads.

This site tends to be classier than some others I have seen. Yet, the member styles seem to be very broad.

[Nicole Erin]

I tend to go with the classy look.
I dress and go out in public, I guess it just helps to try to blend in if one is dressed on the classy side. I don't mean like some ball gown or wedding dress. But for me, a nice top and slacks or knee length skirt is me. Well the rare occasion I wear a skirt instead of slacks.

For seeing other CD's dressed scantily, I could care less. I dont care what someone else wants to wear.

[Penny]

I am your basic conservative. I believe in the US Constitution, life, libery and
the persuit of happiness. Appearance is a personal preference as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Tollerance of others is the key here.
Acceptance as a person and not necessarily as a CD should be our goal. Trashy or classy doesn't change who we are; behavoir does.

:hugs:

Penny

[Kathi Lake]

"Classy" and "Trashy" are yet another pair of labels that no one can define, except to and for themselves. However, we each have our own internal idea of what each of those looks consist of.

Myself, I would say that I am securely in the "classy" side of the camp. Why? Not because I think that those that dress "trashy." as I personally define it, are bad and I shun that label in horror, but because those that have seen my pictures say that my style is classy. OK, the consensus seems to be that I dress classy. Yeah, I can live with that.

What about trashy? Do I have clothes that I consider trashy? Mmmmmmmm, nope. Not really. Why? Because in my mind, clothes like that, although they may make some feel good, would invite attention that I really don't want to receive. As you know, though I dress very rarely :), I tend to go out in public when I dress. I would feel seriously icky if a guy were to hit on me, so maybe that's why I dress a little dowdier, I guess.

And, since I'm sure you noticed I brought up the "gay" card, let me issue my standard disclaimer. I am not coming down on you if that is the sort of attention that you are after. If you'll notice, everything in here used the words "I" or "me." I do not judge. I do not generalize. So let's not even go there.

Basically, some dress to be noticed, some to be ignored. Color me ignored, and I'm happy.

Kathi

[Erica2Sweet]

Society in general is hopefully becoming more tolerant of us because they see trans people (I use that term loosely) blending instead of looking like every night is Halloween.

...If you want folks to stop harassing us, based on the goodness of their hearts and not in fear of the law (what law there is), it behooves you to dress appropriately for the venue. This is common sense. We are already on the fringe, let's not make it worse by looking over-sexed, as the British would put it.

That said, we do all have the right to wear what we want when we want. As with free speech, however, there may be consequences to that speech (not from the government, but from the general populace with whom we interact)...

I'm in total agreement.

I live in cornfield country, USA and I've learned very quickly if you want to mingle with John Q. Public and not draw negative attention, you basically have to dress for the venue and that means exercising some restraint in terms of provocative attire.

In contrast, what one wears in private is a different matter entirely. For the purpose of this topic, I don't think it's really relevant as long as what goes on behind closed doors remains private.

[Frédérique]

Ok, I try and dress with class. No panties/thongs showing above my dress, a good looking top and a knee length of longer skirt, Nice hair and normal makeup. What are your thoughts on this subject?

The way I dress is based on things I’ve seen over the years – women wearing certain styles of clothing in a certain way that have made an impression on me one way or another. The key words for me are elegance and restraint, so everything else doesn’t get much of a look. I’m after a feeling more than anything, so my clothes reflect an inwardness at all times. My emotions are pulled tightly around me for comfort, and I revel in the vulnerability I feel – this is a very personal and intimate space that I enter, so more extroverted attire would be completely out of place…


What about trashy? Do I have clothes that I consider trashy? Mmmmmmmm, nope. Not really. Why? Because in my mind, clothes like that, although they may make some feel good, would invite attention that I really don't want to receive.

Yes, I agree – I do not wish to draw attention to myself with the clothes I have chosen to wear. It’s a balancing act, and I’ve been known to hover near the “costume” area at times, but, in the end, my wardrobe reflects an unwillingness to be pinned down. I have no “trashy” clothes, either. I’m always pleased to see one of my more demure sisters dressed nicely, happy to show themselves off – this is the gentle part of crossdressing that few get to see, but it inspires me…:battingeyelashes:

[TabbyJames]

I personally enjoy the classy side of it with the exception of intimate time. I wouldn't post pics of the intimate side but have no issues with sharing the classy side. All my cloths (and the ones I borrow from my wife) are knee length or longer skirts and dresses, its whats underneath thats a bit riske

[Nigella23]

..... The OP was making the point that this site does not allow vulgarity. That is a lot different than trashy (when I think that I think Daisy Dukes, crop tank top, overly done blue eye shadow and out of date wedge heels...but maybe there is someone here who that is "their" look...) It is a good point that this site caters to helping people and supporting people (no matter how they like to dress) but doesn't allow overtly sexual posts or pictures. Unfortunately those are the people who are setting our representation in the world. I will stress once again as long as the majority of TG's decide to blend or hide, the sexual deviates on the other sites win. If you don't like be branded as one of "them" get out and be one of "you."

:thumbsup: to the above.

I don't think it's neccessary to try and divide the crossdressing community on matters of clothing choice or reasoning behind wearing them. The media will always pick up on the trashy and exploit it for selling papers etc. Look at the fuss in the UK with Alex Reid, (Jordan's cage fighting on/off SO), and his supposed c/d tendencies. http://www.osoblog.tv/alex-reid-gold-lame.jpg
Personally not an outfit I'd choose to wear, or many other people judging from the posts on here, but he has every right in the world to wear what he wants when he wants. Let's keep a bit of perspective here, it's the media and general public who are giving the transgender community a bad image by perpetuating this stereotype, in much the same way as they did for the gay community by only portraying gay men as effiminate queens and lesbians as butch dungaree wearers. Both can be found within there respective communities but in no way represent them as a 'standard'.
I like this site because it has mature, and accepting members of all the various forms and denominations of crossdressing behaviour, It would sadden me to think people were being judgemental or hypocritical of others because of their choice of a pink thong or gold lame!
If you don't like the fact that a bloke wearing gold lame is the public's view of you and your community, then change it.

[Kate17]

I like to dress like a respectable woman and look my best if I am eating out or at the mall but when I go out to some of the clubs that lets say cater to the "undeworld " then I like to look a little less demure. Now I do not dress like a 4th street hooker but I do enjoy clothes that are very sexy in a subtle way. For example I have a very nice pink skirt that is just above my knees and I like to wear a pair of tall black high heel boots and a cute top. I did this the other night and a couple of the guys were all over me - and guess what- I enjoyed it immensly. I am older and I know my time is short for this kind of fun so I throw away the rule books and do what pleases me.

[Misty G]

I have been dressing and going out in public for several years and I don't remember ever wearing a skirt or dress that came to my knees much less below them.

You are talking classy and trashy. I have as to yet decided just what is considered trashy or classy. If wearing a little to much make up makes you trashy then what if you are dressed for a formal event in an evening gown go to Mac for a make over. The way the Mac Associates do it would that not also be trashy.

For me I will continue the way i always have with skirts above the knee and make-up the way that I like it.

I agree that there is a lot of neg. stuff on the internet but most people seeing it could care if you dress trashy or classy. You can differentiate between those sites.

[Samantha Girl]

Samantha, I checked out your pics. They don't come off trampy to me. Sexy, yes and you pull it off well.

I think dressing trampy and classy vs this site and that site are different threads.

This site tends to be classier than some others I have seen. Yet, the member styles seem to be very broad.


Thanks so much abigailf! I try, I try really hard! :p




I am your basic conservative. I believe in the US Constitution, life, libery and
the persuit of happiness. Appearance is a personal preference as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Tollerance of others is the key here.
Acceptance as a person and not necessarily as a CD should be our goal. Trashy or classy doesn't change who we are; behavoir does.

:hugs:

Penny

Nicely put Penny :)

Lorileah... I want to be you when I grow up! :D

[Stephanie81]

Hmm.. interesting discussion..

On the one hand, this site is an oasis of yumminess in the veritable ocean of crappy CD sites out there..

On the other, I DO like to feel sexy when I go out, so I have been known to wear Mini-skirts, super-high heels, fishnets, etc when I go clubbing.. is that Trashy? .. obviously, if i'm shopping or doing the housework or something, i just wear everyday-wear or similar..

[SarahLynn]

I like to dress like a respectable woman and look my best if I am eating out or at the mall but when I go out to some of the clubs ... then I like to look a little less demure. Now I do not dress like a 4th street hooker ...

"a respectable woman"

I think this is what is meant by those of us who use the word classy for our style of dress.

For me, i try to dress as i would if i were a lady and going shopping with my mother. While she may have had some trampy clothes i never saw them, or her wearing them.

"Now I do not dress like a 4th street hooker ..."

As for trampy i should think anyone who dresses in the above fashion is indeed going for the tramp look. I'm not saying that is bad but does it really give the impression you want to present in the mall or on the street where you live?? (assuming you don't live where all the hookers hang out on 4th street.)

SarahLynn

[txrobinm]

Hmm.. interesting discussion..

On the one hand, this site is an oasis of yumminess in the veritable ocean of crappy CD sites out there..

On the other, I DO like to feel sexy when I go out, so I have been known to wear Mini-skirts, super-high heels, fishnets, etc when I go clubbing.. is that Trashy? .. obviously, if i'm shopping or doing the housework or something, i just wear everyday-wear or similar..

.... perfect for the venue, Stephanie!

[BenCDLover]

sometimes its hot to see trasand then other times
its nice to see classsy

depends on the mood and time...

Ben

[MissyW]

I agree. there are a bunch of sites that give CDing a bad name. This site is simply wonderful and I am soooo glad I found it and all of you!
As far as dressing "quality" goes, I dress respectable most of the time but trashy will sneak in every now and then 'cos its fun

[Bailey_in_Mansfield]

I go for classy myself.

<-- Sadly that pic over there is not me. It's what I WISH I looked like! But yeah, the classy, "nice girl" look. I guess you might say that that's what I prefer to think I look like on the inside. ^_^

[Amanda Styles]

I've never been attracked to trashy GG's. Professional, classy and all put together is the only way for me.
Why would I want to look like a cheap hooker?

[Sooty]

My POV is that it depends on how I feel.

Dressing trampy is fun sometimes, sometimes more classy is how I feel.

Same with attraction to GGs.

[Samantha Girl]

I've never been attracked to trashy GG's. Professional, classy and all put together is the only way for me.
Why would I want to look like a cheap hooker?


"sigh" For funs! :cheer:

[Bailey_in_Mansfield]

I've never been attracked to trashy GG's. Professional, classy and all put together is the only way for me.
Why would I want to look like a cheap hooker?

I have good news and bad news for you! :) The good news: you look like a GG! The bad news: you look like my high school principal. :O But there's more good news: she's a classy lady too! :D

[Lorileah]

Can we get away from "hooker" references? I know we all have our own idea of what looks good and I still don't see why dressing "Up" in a short skirt and heels makes you trashy but honestly the hooker thing doesn't even ring true. I wonder how many here have even seen a real hooker? 90% of them look like destitute women on the street. Another Hollywood myth that really does not need perpetuating.:brolleyes:

[Amanda Styles]

Perhaps I should amend that post a bit, especially after reading Lorileah's response . You are right, trashy does not equate with hooker. I do love short skirts, tight tops, high heels and being made up myself.
So I guess I have a trashy side to myself as well. I stand corrected. :) The last thing I want to do is offend anyone here.

[Amanda Styles]

I have good news and bad news for you! :) The good news: you look like a GG! The bad news: you look like my high school principal. :O But there's more good news: she's a classy lady too! :D
Thanks Bailey, maybe 2009 won't end so badly with confidence bolstering compliments like that.

[Amanda Styles]

Can we get away from "hooker" references? I know we all have our own idea of what looks good and I still don't see why dressing "Up" in a short skirt and heels makes you trashy but honestly the hooker thing doesn't even ring true. I wonder how many here have even seen a real hooker? 90% of them look like destitute women on the street. Another Hollywood myth that really does not need perpetuating.:brolleyes:


I'm just learning to use this site, and I am trying to use the quote function. I have to agree that just the act of wearing a short skirt, and tight top does not make one "trashy". What I wanted to say was my daytime look (if i went out) would be more business or age appropriate. I know all women have a side they present to the world and one that is reserved for elsewhere.

[Bailey_in_Mansfield]

For me, fishnets are what make the "trashy" look. *shudder*

[carolinoakland]

Well see that's what being a woman is so fun, and really annoying. We can dress how we feel, want to be seen as, or for the function we are going to and what we are doing that day. A cd is a horse of a diferent color, while a woman, she is only a 'side' or part of the whole. So, 'dress up' is more the norm than for a ts. But rather than try to point out the silly little diference's lets try and enjoy each other for the sameness we all love and enjoy. I have a picture of me (TS) and a good friend (CD) at a party where we both wore the same dress. And you can't tell who's who just because of the dress now can you? Carol

[carolinoakland]

And the best thing about being a woman is female perogative. I can do it because...
" I wanted to..." is all I need to say... Carol

[kellycan27]

Can we get away from "hooker" references? I know we all have our own idea of what looks good and I still don't see why dressing "Up" in a short skirt and heels makes you trashy but honestly the hooker thing doesn't even ring true. I wonder how many here have even seen a real hooker? 90% of them look like destitute women on the street. Another Hollywood myth that really does not need perpetuating.:brolleyes:

I see hookers all the time here in Las Vegas, there's quite a difference between the street ho's and the high priced call girls. prostitutes can be trashy or classy with the best of em. The trashy ones are pretty easy to spot standing on the corner or walking down the street with their junk hangin out. From my own personal observations ..it seems to me that the older the prostitute, the more she flaunts her stuff. face it..she getting up there a bit,maybe doesn't have the figure that she used to, and then there's the competition from the younger girls to contend with. Being that there are a lot of prostitutes here, police and hotel security deal with them regularly they sort of have a feel for what to look for. Profiling if you will. ( it may not be right, but it happens) . If a woman meets certain criteria, or draws attention to herself via the way she is dressed, they may not say anything, but you can be sure that the eye in the sky is keeping a close watch on her actions.The girls that dress in a more subtle manner can slip under the radar, the younger girls ... well their younger, who doesn't like to look at at a young girl in a short skirt? Even so, if they are dressed way over the top. they too will rate a second look. maybe "dressed like a hooker" has a different meaning here, but from experience in dealing with prostitutes our police and hotel security kind of have the attitude of..if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..it's probably a duck. I think that most people have an idea of what they believe to be considered proper when it comes to how people dress when they are out and about,whether it be style of clothing or the dreaded age appropriate. It may not be the same as yours, and if you don't buy into it..more power to you, but it is what it is. If you walk into a casino here wearing Daisey dukes,heels,pantyhose and a halter top, that guy that's following you probably isn't doing so because he thinks your hot! You fit the profile. :strugglin

[5150 Girl]

I try to be mostly classy, with a touch of soccar mom, a pinch of redneck, and just a hint of class

[suzy]

I dress for me. I enjoy wearing feminine clothes. Sometimes I feel like being a little ****ty and other times I don't. I don't leave the house dressed in a manner to draw attention and create problems so what does it matter how I dress in my house?

[kellycan27]

I dress for me. I enjoy wearing feminine clothes. Sometimes I feel like being a little ****ty and other times I don't. I don't leave the house dressed in a manner to draw attention and create problems so what does it matter how I dress in my house?

I think that the OP was geared for how one dresses outside of the home.
:hugs:

Kelly

[katie.anne.rose]

hello everyone, this is my first post so i am a wee bit nervy, but just wanted to add i think everyone loves to fit in with being classy!

but now and again we all like to dress a bit naughty(trashy) am i right ...lol.

all the best kt.

[Samantha Girl]

I really should be used to being the "odd man out" by now or woman in this case! :p

My girl asked me the other day, can't Samantha do her hair in a more classy style? Sadly most of the time the answer is no! :devil:

The 2 things that originally got me interested in crossdressing in the 1st place are fishnet stockings, which I wear almost every time I dress and big giant 80's/early 90's hair. I guess I'm just not a classy gal :D To each her own...

[Lorileah]

If a woman meets certain criteria, or draws attention to herself via the way she is dressed, they may not say anything, but you can be sure that the eye in the sky is keeping a close watch on her actions....if they are dressed way over the top. they too will rate a second look. maybe "dressed like a hooker" has a different meaning here, but from experience in dealing with prostitutes our police and hotel security kind of have the attitude of..if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..it's probably a duck. . If you walk into a casino here wearing Daisey dukes,heels,pantyhose and a halter top, that guy that's following you probably isn't doing so because he thinks your hot! You fit the profile. :strugglin

So...If I am a hooker in LV and I dress like "Mama" form Mama's family, I can get in and get out without anyone noticing...Yeah, except the graft you KNOW security is getting to allow hookers in the casino :brolleyes: The lesson you are giving here is dress like you are from the farm and the "eye is the sky" won't follow you? Also BS and you know that too. From the minute you walk in that casino as a CD or even a TS you are nailed. As you state not right but he way it is. Face it in Vegas you are watched.,..yes even you as pretty as you are. But that's Vegas.

[Bailey_in_Mansfield]

Well she looks classy enough in that avatar, Samantha... But have some fun with your girl's suggestion! When she asked if Samantha can do her hair in a more classy style, I think she was looking for an answer like, "Well, what do you have in mind? Why don't you try it out on me?" :)

[Samantha Girl]

Hmmmm, interesting thought Bailey :) She did my hair once, but she has hard time styling it, our hair is very different texture wise. Still, not a bad idea :)

[kellycan27]

So...If I am a hooker in LV and I dress like "Mama" form Mama's family, I can get in and get out without anyone noticing...Yeah, except the graft you KNOW security is getting to allow hookers in the casino :brolleyes: The lesson you are giving here is dress like you are from the farm and the "eye is the sky" won't follow you? Also BS and you know that too. From the minute you walk in that casino as a CD or even a TS you are nailed. As you state not right but he way it is. Face it in Vegas you are watched.,..yes even you as pretty as you are. But that's Vegas.

No, it's not BS.. if you dress like you are from the farm you aren't going to garner more scrutiny than if you are dressed in a way that that they would describe as "hookerish". Put on any kind of spin that you would like. Even if the eye in the sky did clock a cd or TS..it doesn't matter, they're not looking to keep cders and ts's out of the casinos.. they're trying to keep out HOOKERS. The hookers that are aloud .. are done so in a pre-arranged fashion and are known by security and by the pit bosses. Even those girls are required to dress in a fashion that doesn't scream hooker. Security and the pit bosses don't want unwanted attention payed to these girls by customers or the higher ups.

[Amanda Styles]

So...If I am a hooker in LV and I dress like "Mama" form Mama's family, I can get in and get out without anyone noticing...Yeah, except the graft you KNOW security is getting to allow hookers in the casino :brolleyes: The lesson you are giving here is dress like you are from the farm and the "eye is the sky" won't follow you? Also BS and you know that too. From the minute you walk in that casino as a CD or even a TS you are nailed. As you state not right but he way it is. Face it in Vegas you are watched.,..yes even you as pretty as you are. But that's Vegas.

Remind me to stay the hell away from Vegas!

[Lorileah]

Remind me to stay the hell away for Vegas!

Don't let that scare you Amanda. As Kelly pointed out, they aren't out to get the CD's. They do watch you more closely but if you aren't there to cause problems you will be fine. Most (and notice I said MOST) casinos will allow you to have fun and be another patron without hassle. The point was that they let hookers in too, just look the other way and as Kelly pointed out that is the "arrangement". Hookers bring men into the casino, often whales, and that means money. And as Kelly pointed out these pro's don't dress like the hookers you see on TV, they are "discrete". But do know, you ain't fooling the experts who get paid to see things, they can tell you are a TG, just like they can spot a hooker even if she isn't wearing a mini and 12" heels.

[ASIA_RED]

personally i hate clothes so like to wear as little as i can get away with:devil::D

[Karen43]

Most everyone on this site is a class act, like I think I am.

[giuseppina]

My preference is the classy, dignified look. That goes for the genetic ladies as well. While there is nothing inherently wrong with it, the trampish style of dressing doesn't do anything for me.

[Marcie4you]

I decided before I started, that I wanted to be able to pass anywhere, anytime. So I analyzed what women my age wore, and when, their level of make-up, hair, ....etc... The looks I liked, and those I didn't. I didn't WANT stares from anyone, and don't get them unless someone's trying to be friendly. I go with class dressing but not overtly sexy in any way.

Does that make sense?

[Deidra Cowen]

Ya just gotta know when and where you can show up looking trashy. Thats what trips up a lot of CDs/Tgirls. Don't freaking go to a nice resturant wearing a tiny miniskit, crop top blouse, tons of bling and wild makeup. On the other hand, lets say a fetish party like 'Skin Too' ...well then crankup da bad girl look and have fun!

[Kaitlyn Michele]

I really should be used to being the "odd man out" by now or woman in this case! :p

My girl asked me the other day, can't Samantha do her hair in a more classy style? Sadly most of the time the answer is no! :devil:

The 2 things that originally got me interested in crossdressing in the 1st place are fishnet stockings, which I wear almost every time I dress and big giant 80's/early 90's hair. I guess I'm just not a classy gal :D To each her own...

Samantha you are a very classy girl

There is no issue AT ALL with the way you dress...

some people will always disagreee. oh well

btw....on topic humour..

When we went out for my aunts 50th wedding anniversary, my aunts daughter in law showed up in a black leather miniskirt, fishnets...etc...she was very dressed up and very sexy

my jaw dropped as i pictured myself in that get up...

the family recoiled and my aunt and said...AND I QUOTE

"jes-s mary and joseph give me strength, she looks like a god damn ***** at a christening"

:devil:

[NicoleScott]

Remember that we dress for many different reasons. Some are content to slip on an ankle-length dress and flats, no wig or makeup, and be happy. I'm happy for those who do that, but it doesn't do it for me. I dress for pleasure - my pleasure - and I'm happy if others like it too. I describe my dressup and makeup style as "overdone". I'm not trying to be trashy, but others will see it that way. I like high heels, somewhat higher than "classy", and short skirts a little shorter than "classy". Most of all, I love makeup, heavily applied bold eye makeup, long eyelashes, and deep red lipstick (overdone) but applied as perfectly as possible (classy). I think of this as my "femme identity". I have dressed this way in private countless times, but have also gone out this way many times, and, yes, received some attention (positive, I'm glad to report). I would not get as much pleasure dressing up if I toned it down.
Conservatively dressed gg's see other gg's in high heels, short skirts, and heavy makeup, but don't feel compelled to tell them that they're giving all women a bad image. So why should we do the same?

[Samantha Girl]

Samantha you are a very classy girl

There is no issue AT ALL with the way you dress...

some people will always disagreee. oh well

btw....on topic humour..

When we went out for my aunts 50th wedding anniversary, my aunts daughter in law showed up in a black leather miniskirt, fishnets...etc...she was very dressed up and very sexy

my jaw dropped as i pictured myself in that get up...

the family recoiled and my aunt and said...AND I QUOTE

"jes-s mary and joseph give me strength, she looks like a god damn ***** at a christening"

:devil:

Thanks Kaitlyn! :) And that story is hysterical! :heehee:



Remember that we dress for many different reasons. Some are content to slip on an ankle-length dress and flats, no wig or makeup, and be happy. I'm happy for those who do that, but it doesn't do it for me. I dress for pleasure - my pleasure - and I'm happy if others like it too. I describe my dressup and makeup style as "overdone". I'm not trying to be trashy, but others will see it that way. I like high heels, somewhat higher than "classy", and short skirts a little shorter than "classy". Most of all, I love makeup, heavily applied bold eye makeup, long eyelashes, and deep red lipstick (overdone) but applied as perfectly as possible (classy). I think of this as my "femme identity". I have dressed this way in private countless times, but have also gone out this way many times, and, yes, received some attention (positive, I'm glad to report). I would not get as much pleasure dressing up if I toned it down.
Conservatively dressed gg's see other gg's in high heels, short skirts, and heavy makeup, but don't feel compelled to tell them that they're giving all women a bad image. So why should we do the same?

Well said Nicole, I'm with you :)

[msginaadoll]

"The best part about being a woman is my perogative to have a little fun!" Those words are from my favorite philosopher Shania Twain. I like to say that I have different sides. I am generally told by my friends that I tend to dress too conservatively when I'm out at the clubs. I am referred to as the Church Lady or head of the PTA. I do tend to dress more conservative or in my soccer mom attire when I go out shopping, to the grocery store. Thats because I wish to fit in. Thats only part of me though. Yes I do like to dress trashy looking at times and even "like a hooker." Not one of the common street ones, but the leather mini skirt, satin blouse, over the knee stilletto boots, fishnet stocking ones. It feels great to be noticed and get a little attention at times. The hookers you used to see on "TJ Hooker." I guess what Im saying is why not enjoy the ride- why limit yourself. Even GG's get to play dress up sometimes.

[StarrOfDelite]

If a person is dressing in the privacy of her home, then whatever gives her that feminine, comfortable glow is what's right. If you're going out shopping, to a club, or a party, then being appropriately dressed is only good manners and good taste.

I have sexy outfits that I wear in the boudoir and for my own private naughty photo shoots, I have blue jeans and chambray shirts for outdoors, and cocktail dresses both long and short. Would 55 y.o. G Lady in good shape wear a fishnet mini to the party I'm attending without looking ridiculous? If "Yes," then so can I, if I think I can pull it off (what's that phrase, "Mutton dressed as Lamb?").

I try not to go overboard on the CD/TV weakness of shoes, too. Most gender women who are 5-11 wear flats or low heels, and I do too, except when I'm trying to look like a 'Ho. Nothing screams "party girl" quite as much as a pair of inappropriate shoes. As a matter of fact, I've never quite found a satisfactory answer to the question of when six inch heels are appropriate, although I think that I got a clue when I bought a pair of lace-up fetish boots (white wet and plastic) and got a complimentary whip inside the box http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/images/smilies/happy.gif

You have to play to your audience, too. I live in Manhattan, most of places I go to can be fairly outre' (a primary reason I moved here from the midwestern 'burbs to put up with $3500 a month apartment rents), and some of the stuff I see will not play in Peoria anytime soon.

I just wish there was some way to deal with my voice as easily as the clothes. When I'm not careful I sound like William Warfield singing "Old Man River."

[Joanne f]

I think it is up to the individual on what they wear and they should not be judged on that . i would never consider that my way is the right way for every one, but just for me.

[Larissa Philips]

This is something I have thought about myself for quite along time, and developed quite the theory about.

When I see a cd/tv/ts out and about and dressed "trashy" (as in absolutely, unfathomably out of place with the surroundings) I think its because their idea of going femme is jumping directly to one end of the spectrum. Both genders have a spectrum with Conservative on one end and Trashy on the other, with society being the way it is I'm not entirely surprised this happens as the "Trashy" side of the spectrum is becoming more common.

When I first started dressing seriously during my teen years, it was always about the high heels, short skirts and revealing tops. Looking back, I realize I did this because that's what I had pigeon-holed being a female as. Skirts and Heels are absolutely feminine, therefore to be feminine, I have to dress like this. Today, not so much. Example, I've been lounging in cutoff shorts with a new pair of low top Chuck Taylors. Not the stereotypical female ensemble, but feminine nonetheless.

I also think this happens as a result of not growing up female and experiencing the slight changes in clothing based on age and setting. Its quite possible I am alone in that theory though.

Personally, I always put form ahead of fashion. Do these stiletto boots I just bought look hot? Most def! Do they look good on me? Totally! Would I wear them in at the office or at a funeral? Not a chance.

I also think whats making things worse is that a lot of the clothing websites that cater to our community put fashion ahead of form.

So, that's my theory. Me and my one-woman army will get off the soapbox now.

[MarinaKirax]

I must say the trashy clothes, and especially the shoes, are the ones I covet the most. That said, I also get excited by the idea of passing in society - to be able to take a 5 hour train ride en femme, flipping through Cosmo, checking my nails, legs crossed, prim and proper, is also very exciting.

If i dress trashy, it will be just a hint; say, white blouse, curvy pants and conservative black pumps. But as I cross my leg, you may see the flash of fishnets at my ankle. Just keep'em guessing. :)