Leaving The Neighborhood

[theresa]

Now that I'm starting to get out enfemme during daylight hours, I'm dealing with the challenge of leaving the neighborhood. Hasn't happed yet but I can see the day that my neighbors see a nice looking babe (hey I got to be generous to myself here) driving my car out of my garage and up the street. Hasn't been a problem so far but I've only gone out at night and darkness is your best friend when you are dressed.

Don't want the neighbors calling the police to apprehend the hot chick (dramatic license taken here again) stealing their neighbors car. LOL

I've read how some of the ladies have a jacket or coat over them and then throw on wig later on. I also saw some that stop somewhere and change clothes in the car. All seems difficult but feasible, but was hoping that someone may have some other thoughts or ideas.

Oh, I do know one option is to just tell the neighbors about my little hobby. Perhaps include Theresa in the annual family photograph Christmas Card mailings. I've kinda got that idea on the bottom of my list at the moment. :)

Hopefully someone will have some other really clever ideas or give their thoughts.

[NathalieX66]

Theresa, I feel for you.
I am all lovey-dovey with my neighbors. They are family types, and a few are cops. And boy, do my neighbors love to gossip!:brolleyes:

[S. Lisa Smith]

Coats and sunglasses work great! Put your wig, lipstick and earrings on when you leave the neighborhood. It's stressful, but I've done it.

[Fab Karen]

People don't pay that much attention. And if someone saw you drive away, they wouldn't call the police. If they thought about it at all ( most people mind their own business ), they'd probably think a friend or relative is using your car. No-one is staring at your home through binoculars ( unless you have a wacko in the neighborhood ).

[Cristi]

I'm sure I'm going to get 'busted' at some point. I live on a dead end street with about 10 houses on it. I know most of my neighbors, and they all recognize my car.

So far, I've been very lucky. The few times I've been leaving and met somebody coming the other way on the road, I put my hand up near my face like I'm talking on my cell to hide my makeup a bit, and I always keep my dark sunglasses on until I'm well away from my neighborhood.

The closest call I've had was when a car actually pulled up blocking my driveway while I was trying to drive out. It turns out he was visiting somebody on the street and couldn't find the house. He saw me leaving, so decided to stop me to ask for help.

I stopped well short of his car, but even then I'm sure the would have noticed the earrings, lipstick and necklace I had on, though he didn't give any indication of anything being amiss. I'm just glad he dind't get out of his car to get closer or worse yet, drive up my driveway before I was actually IN my car! Then he would have seen me in my knee length high heel boots and skirt as well.

I just wonder how the conversation went when he finally found the house he was looking for. "Did you find the place alright?" "Sure, the crossdresser down the street told me where you lived" :eek:

Unless, of course, I 'passed'. But I seriously doubt that since I made no attempt to feminize my voice while giving him directions.

[theresa]

Christi,

Yours is exactly my situation: We live in a close knit cul-de-sac of about 7-8 homes and have great neighbors. I suppose I'm "OK":eek: with getting outed, otherwise I wouldn't have made the choice of going out during the day. But it wouldn't be my first choice and was thinking about ways to reduce the odds of Theresa running into someone while driving out of the area.

[Alice Torn]

Now that i live in an apartment complex, the few times i have been out, i wear a coat and pants over my dress, or skirt, walking shoes, sunglasses, and a hat. I take wig, heels, purse, and lady coat, in a bag. Bag lady! Good post! It is a real challenge, when lots of neighbors! That's why i wish most people had their own land, little house on the prairie, at least an acre. Too bloody much "boundry bumping" in this crowded world!

[Karren H]

I'd buy another car!! A red one!! And a convertable!! Yeah!! Then everyone will think your just some trash he picked up last night? Lol.

[Rachel Morley]

I'm afraid I don't have any clever ideas for you :sad: In my case, even if our car is on the driveway and is pulled up really close to the house which makes it partially obscured (our house is "L shaped") the neighbors houses directly opposite ours can see who gets into an out of the car. I always wait until there is no one out in their front yards before going to the car but I bet you that in the last 4 years that I have been going out in daylight someone must have noticed something ... they must have .... nothing as ever been said (yet). Like Cristi said, "I'm sure I'm going to get 'busted' at some point." :o

[tinalynn]

I have the same issue - cul-de-sac with only 4 houses on the street. The house next to me can see my driveway, as can the house across the street if they look out an upstairs window. The only time I left in daylight all dolled up (incl wig) I made it off our street, but on the small road leading out my neighbors daughter drove right by. Apparently, she didn't pay any attention...

Point is, there is no way to be absolutely sure you won't be noticed. Try to be quick and quiet, but there isn't much else you can do.

[sherri52]

Dress at home putting mens pants over the skirt or dress. Keep the womens jacket in the car before you go out and put your wig on after leaving the street. If you go out after dark put you makeup on in the house to make sure you did well, no one will see it form thier houses.

[Teri Jean]

For me, I live in a older portion of town and houses are closer together than say the neighborhoods that were developed in the past 30 years. So when I first went out dressed it was after the sun was down and no one could see who was driving away. Now I live 24-7 and had a nice chat with my neighbors, who although wouldn't choose to be transsexual, said that I was still the same person and this wouldn't change anything. So now it is everything from going to work to moving the grass and shoveling the snow.

You know your neighbors better than I do but if they are as special as mine I would just have a chat with them so they will know it isn't some prowler. Good luck.

Teri

[Stephenie S]

Holy cow! Where do you guys get the idea that you are so important that your neighbors give a rat's patoootie what you wear? Get over yourselves. You are just not that important. Nobody cares what you wear! Just how much time do YOU spend watching your neighbor's house to see who is driving their car or what they have on for clothes today? What's that? NONE? You say you don't care what kind of clothes your neighbor wears? Well, sweetie, your neighbor doesn't care what you wear either.

How do I know this? OK, some personal experience. Years ago, when I thought it mattered, I figured it was just a matter of time before my neighbor saw me in my car, or in my drive, or whatever, so I just went over to her house (dressed normally) and told her. "OH, BTW, you might see me 'dressed' at some point. I am exploring my feminine side." Did she care? NO, she didn't. Her lack of interest was almost disappointing.

So relax, already. If you care about your neighbors, TELL THEM. If you don't care about them, I think you can assume they don't care about you either. This fantastic guilt trip you are laying on yourself is just in your mind. The reality is that no one cares what you wear, where you wear it, or why.

Stephenie

[donnatracey]

Holy cow! Where do you guys get the idea that you are so important that your neighbors give a rat's patoootie what you wear? Get over yourselves. You are just not that important. Nobody cares what you wear! Just how much time do YOU spend watching your neighbor's house to see who is driving their car or what they have on for clothes today? What's that? NONE? You say you don't care what kind of clothes your neighbor wears? Well, sweetie, your neighbor doesn't care what you wear either.

How do I know this? OK, some personal experience. Years ago, when I thought it mattered, I figured it was just a matter of time before my neighbor saw me in my car, or in my drive, or whatever, so I just went over to her house (dressed normally) and told her. "OH, BTW, you might see me 'dressed' at some point. I am exploring my feminine side." Did she care? NO, she didn't. Her lack of interest was almost disappointing.

So relax, already. If you care about your neighbors, TELL THEM. If you don't care about them, I think you can assume they don't care about you either. This fantastic guilt trip you are laying on yourself is just in your mind. The reality is that no one cares what you wear, where you wear it, or why.

Stephenie

Sounds good BUT a tad too simplistic. There is always at least 1 or 2 "busybodies" in any neighborhood that peer out windows, pay more attention to neighbors than is normal, etc. Only takes 1 to "out" someone who is not ready.....or gossip around the neighborhood. There are a lot of us here that would not appreciate that very much.

BTW, doesn't anyone (who lives in houses) put there cars in the garage? Here in Texas, it's a lost art - sounds like it's like that all over. That would greatly aid in the "getaway".....:D

[Miranda09]

I'd buy another car!! A red one!! And a convertable!! Yeah!! Then everyone will think your just some trash he picked up last night? Lol.

Oooh...I LIKE that idea, but make it a 1960's Corvette!!!! Classic for a hot babe...;)

[Rebecca Jackson]

I live on a cul-de-sac too, and the houses right next to mine are both owned by college students, most of whom wrestle for the university. Some are nice but some are real jerks, and I really worry about being spotted by them. I'd hate for one of them to hassle my kids about it, but so far I've been lucky and haven't had any problems.

[DanaR]

I live at the end of a dead-end street, with about ten houses on it. I'm usually careful when leaving, my neighbors don't need to know about me. I would rather they didn't know, especially because of my wife and kids. About fifteen years ago, I had the windows tinted in the car, that works well; cars we have purchased since have been tinted as well.

[Stephenie S]

BTW, doesn't anyone (who lives in houses) put there cars in the garage? Here in Texas, it's a lost art - sounds like it's like that all over. That would greatly aid in the "getaway".....

Yeah. I got one of those lists of jokes on the internet recently. One of them was:

"Only in America do we park our $35,000 cars in the driveway and fill our garages with worthless junk."

Lovies,
Stephenie

[AllieSF]

I am glad that works for you Stephanie. No, I don't think that I am that important. However, I am good friends with all of my neighbors, they know my family, and I do not want them knowing about this side of my personal life. Except for the little incovenience of getting out of my neighborhood, there is no "need to know" reason for me to tell anyone. You be you and I will be me.

Now to the OP's question: If you can partially dress with makeup and clothes, then I recommend that you just wear baggy clothes, a jacket, when the weather is cooler, sun glasses and a basball hat when you leave your residence. Go to a nearby parking lot and finish up. The more you can dress and do makeup at home, the less you have to do on the road, and the quicker you can "finish" up your outfit and look. When you come home, if it is dark out, just drive up to your house, into the garage if you have one, and walk into your house. Remember to get your house key ready inside the car and do not leave the porch light on. Good luck and enjoy. It is not perfect but works wonderfully for me and many others here.

[sterling12]

OK, if you keep doing The "I'll try that tomorrow;" you'll end up with a whole bunch of Yesterdays!

My old neighbor sold The House next door to a Cop. I ignore that stuff! His Castle is his Castle and mine is mine. Joanie departs and arrives with some regularity.

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Nicole Erin]

One thought that has entered your mind is what if neighborhood kids see you.

If so, worry not, kids don't ever watch traffic as it is, so they certainly would not notice no matter how you are dressed.

[PretzelGirl]

BTW, doesn't anyone (who lives in houses) put there cars in the garage? Here in Texas, it's a lost art - sounds like it's like that all over. That would greatly aid in the "getaway".....:D

:wave: Over here! I do! After 20 years of my life of not having a garage, I am using mine. And it isn't full of junk Stephanie. :heehee:

Mine is a little easier. Add the garage to having no neighbors across the street so then I only have the two beside me to worry about. Plus I already have long hair, so they probably would need a good look. So this isn't a worry for me. Now if as I am pulling out, my daughter starts pulling in and blocks me, I guess I am busted. :idontknow:

[Karren H]

BTW, doesn't anyone (who lives in houses) put there cars in the garage? Here in Texas, it's a lost art - sounds like it's like that all over. That would greatly aid in the "getaway".....

Yeah. I got one of those lists of jokes on the internet recently. One of them was:

"Only in America do we park our $35,000 cars in the driveway and fill our garages with worthless junk."

Lovies,
Stephenie

I have one bay open but all 4 cars are parked outside... And btw..... my pinball machines are not junk!! You must have been talking to my wife! Lol.

[Autumndawn]

I used to live on a Cul de Sac. LOL, never again! How many streets can you simply look out of front window and automatically see three or four neighbors driveways? I also had a "busy body" neighbor who I swore new when everyone left their house, when they came home, and if someone else came to visit. UGGH!
You're much further down the road than I though, regarding going out during the day. I've gone out at night, with makeup on, but the wig is bagged and the earrings are often in hand. How about tinted windows? Sunglasses on and leaving the garage/driveway with purpose would be good too. But not to fast.. or not too slow.. Good luck girl!:)

[Tracy_Victoria]

I've always thought it was best to not drive away from your home, even if you niebours know you dress, also it isn't as difficult to change as you think once out. I used this method for years, so I hope it helps some of you.

Firstly no one will look twice if you look no different to how you normally leave the house,even with makeup on, (no lipstick of course) if anyone can tell you have eye makeup on from 10 yards, all I can say is you must live next to Steve Austin!!! And there always sunglasses if you feel you must, but the more different you look the more people will look.

Secondly if again from the same distance your niebours can see your wearing woman trousers, and flat shoes from the same distance then I would be very suprise. so that means all you need is a baggy top or a coat and away you go!!!

Changing is easy, specially if you already have your female bottom half on, ie find a quiet place, and slip you top half in to female mode, ie you can have all you underclothes on, slip in your form, pop on a wig and a bit of lipstick on,all takes a couple of minutes from start to finish and from then you can do as you wish. once dressed you can then move on asn do as you wish, including finding a more suitable place to change again to skirt or dress if you wish.

Some tips from my past travels, Quiet places are easy to find, but be aware of banks, supermarkets and shops, military bases, and prisons. All tend to have high powered survallance cameras and the last thin you need is your change recorded on video tape. so be aware of your location.

Also as you get used to this quick change routine, you'll find it always worth having a emergency set of male clothes in the car along with some makeup remover and wet wipes. you never know what is going to happen or when so be prepared. Many many years ago, I split a tire on my travels I changed from female to male and changed the tyre in about 10 minutes flat. you'll be amazed what you can do, with a little thought, or an insentive like needing to change a tyre!!!

[Barbara918]

There is always at least 1 or 2 "busybodies" in any neighborhood that peer out windows, pay more attention to neighbors than is normal, etc.

If such a person lived on my block and told some other neighbor "Did you know that the guy who lives in that house wears women's clothes?" the neighbor's response would probably be "Yeah. I know. Doesn't he look nice?"

[Vieja]

An interesting comment about not parking cars in the garage. Before I moved to Texas I never had a house with a garage. Then when I bought my own home I made sure it had a two car garage and that's where my cars live. The folks next door have a two car garage with nothing in it and still park outside. I wonder why.


Vieja

[sherri]

There really is no magic solution. The light of day is unforgiving and neighbors do notice things. The most practical tactic is to dress as much as possible at home and finish up in your car somewhere. This is a little easier to accomplish in winter than in summer cuz you can cover up with coats and whatever, but unless you're willing to wear a burka, you are still exposed to some degree. I think you can get away with doing all your makeup except lipstick and blush before you leave the house, but of course you'll want to wait to put on earrings, wig, etc. Compared to starting from scratch in the car, which I've done a gazillion times, just shedding outer garments and applying a couple of finishing touches is a breeze.

[Sarah Doepner]

I don't really care about the neighbors, except for one. My Wife's family live about 150 feet from our front door and have a good view of the driveway. I can dress anytime I want but the only condition is her elderly parents don't find out. So I underdress and finish once I am away from home. So far I've always had a safe changing room available, either a hotel at the end of the trip or at a CD support group meeting.

I'll keep reading the posts here for when I move.

[donnatracey]

If such a person lived on my block and told some other neighbor "Did you know that the guy who lives in that house wears women's clothes?" the neighbor's response would probably be "Yeah. I know. Doesn't he look nice?"

Then you are very lucky! Sadly, in most neighborhoods the reaction would not be the same.

[jenna_woods]

I have faced that problem for years and so far no one has said anything about that women driveing my car,

[theresa]

Thanks everyone for the great ideas. This turned out to be an even more interesting thread than I suspected it would be and it's reassuring at least to know that I'm not only one with this dilemma.

One thing I took from the responses is that the type of neighborhood you live in makes a difference. I live in one of those neighborhoods where everyone is freindly and waves at you as you drive by. That's nice but a bit of a disadvantage when one is trying to depart unnoticed.

Good tips on the survelliance cameras. That's something that has become very common with all the security concerns and something I hadn't thought about before. I would

There were many great ideas and I'm going to try some of them out.

[Tracy_Victoria]

There were many great ideas and I'm going to try some of them out.

Like all things related to this hobby, it all about finding your own way, and what works for you.

[Granny Gray]

When I moved here it was at the behest of my kids. They wanted the antique close to where my daughter's live when comes the time I need their help. Not yet. I'm just 79. My goodness. Older daughter was the main instigator. She's an RN and expects to have the primary care duty. I'm blessed.
Anyway, back to the "hood"... What do I do to guard against the prying eyes of the neighbors, with none of whom I have any commonalities or interests? Well, only when I climb on the riding mower to trim the lawn... then I do a little extra attention to tucking my skirt under my legs... that's to give salute to an old Granny's modesty cause the yard is rough and I bounce a round a good deal on that seat.
Do the neighbors know I dress, come, go, and live nearly all the time as a woman? Of course, unless they are blind and stupid they do. Do I care? What do you think?


Granny Gray

[joandher]

BTW, doesn't anyone (who lives in houses) put there cars in the garage? Here in Texas, it's a lost art - sounds like it's like that all over. That would greatly aid in the "getaway".....

Yeah. I got one of those lists of jokes on the internet recently. One of them was:

"Only in America do we park our $35,000 cars in the driveway and fill our garages with worthless junk."

Lovies,
Stephenie

No It happens just the same here in the U.K.
Think about this ,when did you last see you neighbors go out , and what were they wearing , now you all have a quick look to see if the coast is clear so you must be aware of whats going on in the street,
i bet you cant remember or not interested in what they were wearing, just like your neighbors about you

:hugs: J-JAY

[sherri]

I notice my neighbors coming and going all the time, and I'm not particularly nosy. Small town life and all that. The front of my house has lots of windows and I can see out even when they can't see me, plus I'm out in the yard fairly often. I usually notice what the neighbor across the street is wearing cuz she's a sharp dresser. And if I ever spotted her husband coming out in a dress and heels, I guarantee you I would be riveted! :) I know that the woman next door to her is a nurse cuz of her uniform. Two houses down from me is a cute young woman who likes to wear short shorts. Across the street from her is a latino teenager who wears baggy shorts and his cap on backwards. Shall I go on? :D

[Sally2005]

If you are out then it doesn't matter what anyone sees, but if not, you can cover up by looking mostly like you usually do and adding final touches on the road. The winter is good for me, you can wear your boots in deep snow and a heavy coat to cover up and no one will see. The large snowbanks can also add privacy. Some people use a van or camper to change. On the road, pick an open space and don't look conspicuous so you don't attract attention. A good spot is a movie theater parking lot since people don't stick around too long watching you, but they may have security cameras or a club where it might be common for people to change in/out of their sports gear.

[TonyaV]

I am sorry if I am repeating others' ideas. If you have a garage, back it in to make for an easier get away as you leave (but pull in forward upon your return). Window tinting goes a long way - works for me. Put your make-up on minus lipstick, and wear sunglasses. Depending on what top you have on, a jacket may be needed. If you see the neighbors, don't avoid them, unless you pretend you're on the phone - act as normal as possible short of stopping to chat. Good luck!

[theresa]

Good idea on backing into the garage. It is a little unsettling backing out of the garage and not having visibility until the car is out of the garage. Driving forward out of the garage is a much better idea. Tinted windows on the next car are a must. Also sunglasses are a definate must-have, along with coats, hats, etc.

I like the idea about movie theatre, there are always people parked in those lots.

Of course I could decide to not go out during the daylight, but that isn't going to happen.

Another important message I take from all the responses is that for the most part, other people really don't care what you are doing as long as it doesn't impact them. By and large I agree with this, and thank god for that since that is what has allowed me to get out during the daylight hours enfemme. But like with every rule there are exceptions, and my neighborhood is one of them. The great ideas all you girls have shared will be put to good use. And bottom line is that if I get read by a neighbor despite all the precautions, well, then I'm out. Or better still, I'll use Karren's approach and get a new red sports car!

[RachelRICD]

I live on a busy street but just go out and get in the car. Since I work as a woman I have no choice and have yet to be confronted by neighbors. If anyone were to see me I don't think they would care and would just figure one of my relaatives was using the car. I even have a Vanity plate so my vehicle is recognizable. I work about 10 minutes from my house but the parking lot is secure so I just accept he fact that I am a woman going to work and deal with it. Of course, if my wife were to see me that might be another thing altogether. :doh:

[Monica Santos]

I leave from the garage, no wig, full makeup, loose pants & light jacket over cloths. A few miles down the road, wig on, jacket & pants off.

[Diane Smith]

I live on a busy street but just go out and get in the car. Since I work as a woman I have no choice and have yet to be confronted by neighbors. If anyone were to see me I don't think they would care and would just figure one of my relaatives was using the car. I even have a Vanity plate so my vehicle is recognizable. I work about 10 minutes from my house but the parking lot is secure so I just accept he fact that I am a woman going to work and deal with it. Of course, if my wife were to see me that might be another thing altogether. :doh:

This intrigues me -- you work outside the house as a woman, but at the same time, you're not fully out to your wife? Sounds like a recipe for a potential disaster, if I'm reading your message correctly.

- Diane

[Marlena-4now]

Well.if you are worried your nieghbors will recognise you why not wear some sort of disguise ?!?.......; )