Odd person out?

[helenr]

I think this post fits this section. Was listening to NPR this AM and a sponsor was announced--by the 'gay and lesbian alliance' or similar title. What happened to the 'transgendered' component? I know this becomes a mouthful, but it makes me wonder if we aren't fully accepted in this Rainbow sort of 'those who are different' . Maybe we don't fit a standard mold as it often viewed with Lesbians or Gays (guess 'homosexua'l is not politically correct now).So we get excluded for the most part.
Not meaning to sound paranoid, but I wonder just where we get cataloged in the big picture. Thoughts?

[Sharon]

It is a part of GLAAD (Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) and their focus is just what their name suggests. There is nothing wrong with that either. Just as theire are organizations for any group of people who have a common interest, lifestyle, etc., there are groups solely for those interested in this particular issue. There are also groups that focus on assorted Transgender issues and communities as well.

[GaleWarning]

It is a part of GLAAD (Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) and their focus is just what their name suggests. There is nothing wrong with that either. Just as theire are organizations for any group of people who have a common interest, lifestyle, etc., there are groups solely for those interested in this particular issue. There are also groups that focus on assorted Transgender issues and communities as well.

Is helenr perhaps suggesting that the focus of cd.com is not what its name would suggest?

Or maybe helenr feels that, as this site would seem to be all-inclusive, so, too, ought GLAAD to be?

Or is helenr infering that gays and lesbians would be better off if they were to stop isolating themselves and playing the "victim" card?

[Eriee]

The gay organizations always throw us under the bus when they're trying to pass legislation and such. Can't really blame them either. Sexual orientation isn't gender identity. So I can see why they don't often include us. Hell, lots of gays hate our guts. Quite a few lesbians think we're raping womens bodies by transitioning. And some gays think we're homosexuals in denial.

[noeleena]

Hi..

What i see. is. there is a major differnance . one part for us is we have op s . we change what clothes we wear . how we dress how we live . . for most gays they dont change any thing . or go through o p.s . how we see our selfs & what s going on inside of us . mentaly . would that be a start . & for most they are male . as a male ..or female as female ...( women ) . thats just the short side of it .

as i v said before i have some lesbian friends who ..wont.. accept me as a woman . because i am not compleat . does that answer the ??

as to why . as for men . i dont relate to them at all . . i have worked with them .for them . & i had men work under me . so i can pull rank .. wether i was a ((male / female )) andro . male or female . there is a very big differance for me . i do have male friends who are gay . i did not ask any gays as to what they thought about me as a woman . never thought it was a issue . nieve i spos. yet having said that ,

i am accepted by shall i say normal women . who dont have any problems with me as a person . with or with out a womb , & many men accept me

I dont think all lesbians are like we are saying many do accept me . so there s two sides to this .
i am still a woman regardless of what ever.

Now this is another way to look at it . i dont see any men or women who are gay . out in the shops down the road . or any where . there s no sign. to say they are gay .
yet i stand out as who i am . because of t v & the papers . so i am well known . because of who i am . & what i told people . hence the acceptance . or am i deluding my self . or is it . i live where the people are have a repore with them . i did not try to live as to not be seen . it would not work for me any way .....i hope this goes some way as to can we be accepted by every one ....i m not sure .

...noeleena....

[carolinoakland]

I'm of the opinion that trans isn't doing itself any favors riding the coatails of the lgb community, like when we dropped from the HRC.

[kellycan27]

Is helenr perhaps suggesting that the focus of cd.com is not what its name would suggest?

Or maybe helenr feels that, as this site would seem to be all-inclusive, so, too, ought GLAAD to be?

Or is helenr infering that gays and lesbians would be better off if they were to stop isolating themselves and playing the "victim" card?

Maybe the gay and Lesbian community figure (after seeing all the "I am not gay" disclaimers) that this community doesn't want to be associated with them? Perhaps your desire to let people know that you aren't gay is paying off. Careful what you wish for! :rofl:

[tess graham]

I am inclinded to agree with the girls who think we, unlike the LGB groups, are not about the sex. From the posts I have read, most of us are just about being the person inside our head. This secret self we carry around is a huge inescapable burden which we long to put down and "be" just one person...finally. I think that we, like the secret we carry, is unique in our society and put us in a category all by ourselves.

[Barbara Dugan]

Now I am more confused than ever I consider myself gay and cross-dresser ...but if some part of the gay community hate my guts and some part of the cross dress community think I hate them.. I really feel I don't belong anywhere:cry:

[Kaitlyn Michele]

Barbara!!! thats it!@!!!!
...people think we DONT BELONG anywhere...not all people, but enough to cause alot of damage to our potential quality of life

this needs to change... i met an old work friend for dinner for 2 hours tonite, he was very supportive and curious...we talked about the job market and i asked him whether he would speak to his friends and colleagues about me, and let them know I'm doing well and have me come in for coffee to see old friends...he said he would be delighted...so i hope i get to see them

and hopefully it goes well and those people will feel that I belong...thats what I want

If one of those people turns out to be a politically active lesbian woman, should I make it clear that I appreciate her support but also make it clear that I am not like her?

Why we would exclude or alienate any potential ally in an attempt to live a better life is beyond me.

It doesnt always work the way you want...politics and activism are dirty games, and the T community was thrown under the bus recently and so there is a trust issue, but LGB and T have alot in common and alot to gain and we should want as many letters after the T as possible...

:2c: ok plus :2c:

[helenr]

thanks for the input. still am not clear on all this. I think that the more recent inclusion in the title 'gay, lesbian, and transgendered' was mostly job discrimation oriented. Maybe we are somewhat of an androgenous embarassment to most gays and lesbians? Maybe since most serious transgendered aren't out for 'anything and everything' as sometimes gets posted on websites, we are viewed as unsexed. hard to tell.
I will add this to a new post I plan to start, but in India, per a National Geographic Explorer program''Sex, lies, and gender" there now is-at least in some areas- gender definitions as Male, female, and transgendered. pretty interesting. This is a result of the 1 million plus Hijas activity there.