Not A Crossdresser

[Magickman]

Sometimes, I am asked, "Are you a crossdresser?"

"No," I reply, "I am not a crossdresser."

"I'm just a guy in a skirt... and heels... and tights... with siover hoop earrings... and a bright, sparkly manicure... and a shoulder bag."

"No. I am not a crossdresser."

[Missy]

alright now that is out at least you know what you are
happy happy joy joy for you
and i am wearing my big girl pants too lol

[Violetgray]

And the difference is...?

[VeronicaMoonlit]

And the difference is...?

Identity!

Believe it or not, there are men who do or have worn skirts, heels, purses, etc and who don't have a transgendered identity. You don't see them too often on sites like this (filled with people who DO have transgendered identities) and support groups (ditto) but they're out there.

So Magickman may "literally" crossdress, but is not a "crossdresser" because that usually implies a transgender identity.

Veronica Rogers.

[Violetgray]

Identity!

Believe it or not, there are men who do or have worn skirts, heels, purses, etc and who don't have a transgendered identity. You don't see them too often on sites like this (filled with people who DO have transgendered identities) and support groups (ditto) but they're out there.

So Magickman may "literally" crossdress, but is not a "crossdresser" because that usually implies a transgender identity.

Veronica Rogers.

I disagree, I think crossdresser implies someone who crossdresses. Especially someone who does this habitually of his own free will.

It's like being on trial and saying "Your Honor, Sure I murder people, but I don't consider myself a murderer. Murderers do it because they're mentally unstable, whereas I just do it for money."

Two different reasons, same physical action.

If someone were to say "Murderers are disturbed people" we'd say that it's often true, but not always. Same with crossdressers are transgendered people, often but not always.

[Bobbie Bee]

I think he's trying to skirt the issue. (Sorry, it had to be said.)

[KimberlyJo]

I crossdress, therefore I am....a crossdresser.


I think he's trying to skirt the issue. (Sorry, it had to be said.)
:rofl:

[Loni]

can you say troll.:eek:

[crusadergirl]

he is not a crossdresser so leave at that

[RhondaLynn]

I would say that i'm not a crossdresser, rather that i'm a person in touch with and in acceptance of my female sexuality & sensuality, and I no longer have much reluctance to express her as much as i feel appropriate. Whether it be wearing lingerie beneath my work clothes, driving in heels, or fully dressing to achieve the level of expression that fulfills my desires at the time. Or simply admiring a woman's outfit at work - i've found that i'm much more in tune with women and the clothes they wear than before.

Labels and terms are overrated. It's about discovering who you are, and becoming comfortable with it. I don't need to label myself, just to be myself.

[Nicole Erin]

Being CD or TS or whatever is more a state of mind than what you wear.
people don't always care for labels.

[Joanne f]

Identity!

Believe it or not, there are men who do or have worn skirts, heels, purses, etc and who don't have a transgendered identity. You don't see them too often on sites like this (filled with people who DO have transgendered identities) and support groups (ditto) but they're out there.

So Magickman may "literally" crossdress, but is not a "crossdresser" because that usually implies a transgender identity.

Veronica Rogers.

I would agree with this as there are Men in skirts sites and they do not consider themselves as cross dressers, they just enjoy wearing clothes that the average male does not wear , it is usually society that would label them as cross dressers not themselves as society for some reason needs to have a set of rules when it comes to clothing (thankfully not all though):D

[Vickie_CDTV]

I suppose it would also matter if one just wears what are considered traditionally womens clothes, and carry a purse etc. and still look like and want portray themselves as a man, or one is also trying to look like a female, use a femme name etc.

Magickman, if you do the former, I give you a lot of credit, it takes an awful lot of courage to be a man so openly wearing such "feminine" clothes.

[Renee_E]

Sounds like you forgot to say "Here's your sign"

[Kate Simmons]

Well, these days I consider myself more of a TM (transmorpher) than a CD or a TV.:)

[Emma England]

There is no such thing as a crossdresser because there is not one item of clothing which is gender-specific.

Both boys and girls can wear whatever clothes the feel like.

[Karren H]

Ahhhh!! Well I've always thought Circus Clown was an honarable profession!! Good for you!!

[Jocelyn Quivers]

I think he's trying to skirt the issue. (Sorry, it had to be said.)

I needed a good laugh to start off the day and you gave me one Bobbie thanks.

Back to the original post. That's fine. If you do not consider yourself a crossdresser and chose not to label yourself as one. Then you are not a crossdresser. :thumbsup:

[tinalynn]

"..."crossdresser" because that usually implies a transgender identity."

Have to disagree. I cross dress, but I do not think of myself as a woman. Yes, I'll go out and try to make people think I'm a woman - and have fun doing it. And yes, I have a female name (identity, if you prefer). But even when I'm dressed and acting all girly while shopping, I know I'm a man. I'm creating an illusion for the fun of it, not because I 'think' I'm a girl... (Or wish to actually be one!)

[msniki48]

I disagree, I think crossdresser implies someone who crossdresses. Especially someone who does this habitually of his own free will.

It's like being on trial and saying "Your Honor, Sure I murder people, but I don't consider myself a murderer. Murderers do it because they're mentally unstable, whereas I just do it for money."

Two different reasons, same physical action.

If someone were to say "Murderers are disturbed people" we'd not that it's often true, but not always. Same with crossdressers are transgendered people, often but not always.

Violet,

I think that a crossdresser is one who dresses.[period] i agree with you. however, that is probably only one of our labels... if you are into labels

I consider myself to be TG so i consider my self to be Transgendered, and yes i Crossdress [verb] to express that side. there are crossdressers that do it totally for sexual pleasure etc...and there are transexuals that are crossdressers until they decide they are transitioning to full time..it is just another label i guess.

I am transgendered, I crossdress. i guess he hasn't figured out his label yet.[ noun]....lol hmmmm we need a new noun for one who is dressing but is male , enjoys it, but does not feel they are female....hmmmm transvestite?

there is another noun that crossdresses....hehehehe

just a thought

hugs,

msniki48

[Violetgray]

Let's look at this as logically as possible.

Crossdresser= one who crossdresses.

If you say, "I crossdress, but I am not a crossdresser" then we must assume that you believe there are other criteria to being called a crossdresser, in addition to crossdressing.

It is this that I would disagree with. And I'd say that anyone who thinks otherwise may need to examine their own stereotypes of "the kind of people who do that sort of thing."

I don't believe this is opinion. It's a physical act, and the only thing that needs to be true.

[msginaadoll]

You can go in circles with this one. Im not a clown I just enjoy wearing whiteface makeup baggy pants, and flowers that squirt. Im not a crossdresser I just enjoy wearing whatever clothes I like. There is no such thing as gender to clothes so I can wear a skirt, makeup, wig, earring, boots and call myself Shirley. After all there are no male or female names only names. So in fact im just dressing and wearing whatever I want to and the rest of the world is small minded by putting a label on me. You can reason it out, rationalize, philosophize all you want. Even call a dog a cat, since after all they are just words invented by some man for his own personal dictionary. However just to let everyone know "I am a crossdresser". Sorry to shock or surprise anyone.

[Tanya83]

Life's too short to worry about being labeled. Who cares. Right?

[Sweet Jane]

I love labels, they are so useful................on tinned food

[Magickman]

My dressing up is all done tongue in cheek.

It is a real activity, but done with a smile and a wink.

Being dressed up is a conversational icebreaker, for initiating contact with women.

I understand well, that not all women appreciate it. But that is OK, since I also use it as a filtering mechanism to eliminate the excessively conformist women. The artistic women, whose company I enjoy, do not seem to mind.

I am a little bit shy, and this is a way to induce women to approach me. Some women seem to savor dancing with the man in a skirt. Who am I to object?

My objective to to confuse and amuse, while enjoying an internal laugh.
It works.

[Violetgray]

My dressing up is all done tongue in cheek.

It is a real activity, but done with a smile and a wink.

Being dressed up is a conversational icebreaker, for initiating contact with women.

I understand well, that not all women appreciate it. But that is OK, since I also use it as a filtering mechanism to eliminate the excessively conformist women. The artistic women, whose company I enjoy, do not seem to mind.

I am a little bit shy, and this is a way to induce women to approach me. Some women seem to savor dancing with the man in a skirt. Who am I to object?

My objective to to confuse and amuse, while enjoying an internal laugh.
It works.

That's awesome :-) Keep doin' what you do!

[Rianna Humble]

If it amuses you to distinguish between what your do and who you are, then good luck to you and I will happily conceded that although you crossdress, you are not someone who crossdresses.

Your later post says that you use it to confuse but also to encourage women to approach you and I'm glad that this works for you.

What I don't understand is your need to protest that you are not a crossdresser. What difference does it make to you? And if you are so sure you are not a crossdresser, what are you seeking from this site? Not judgemental points scoring just wanting to understand.