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girlalex
01-15-2010, 03:31 AM
I don't know about you guys but i think that 90 percent of the guys who dress into girls on Halloween are cds like us. i mean why would someone who is completely straight and has no feminine traits would want to dress like a girl on Halloween. after all you know how they say that Halloween is a time once a year when you can be who ever you want for one day, which brings me to my next point. why wouldn't Halloween be the perfect time of the year to come out or at least insist on that you are a cd by doing a really good job with your make up/dress and such.

any thoughts comments?

VeronicaMoonlit
01-15-2010, 04:12 AM
I know I'm being Ms. Crankypants, but do we have to start discussing the "High Holy Day of Crossdressers" in frickin January? There have been a gazillion posts and threads about it, including about this very topic!

Wouldn't it be great if people felt comfortable enough to dress and/or come out to their friends and relative at any time of the year? And rather than being sneaky and doing the "Yeah I'm a crossdresser and I'm dressin for Halloween, and you can tell because I did my own makeup and my clothes look pretty good, but you can't say anything because it's Halloween. Ha ha jokes on you.", being honest instead?

Enough with the Halloween obsession...at least until October 1st. :-)

Veronica Rogers

Schatten Lupus
01-15-2010, 04:35 AM
One girl I know says she knows plenty of cisgender straight guys who have went out as girls for Halloween. I guess you might be able to tell if they are CD/TS by judging there makeup and clothing, but there is always the chance that someone else, like thier girlfriend/wife did that for them.
As for coming out, I have figured that Halloween is more for treading the waters, and using that as an estimate on if you are ready to come out or not.

aggi123
01-15-2010, 04:37 AM
I think if you are going as an actual person, it really doesn't matter. I'm planning my Flo costume (girl from progressive commercials) for next halloween. =P

Shari
01-15-2010, 04:48 AM
Relax Veronica.

This is far better than another pantie thread and certainly way better than yet another irritating bathroom thread.

Oh, and as far as the thread goes, why limit yourself to one day a year to dress and come out?

When it feels right, just do it.
It can even be arbor day.
Or today!

Engendered
01-15-2010, 07:13 AM
I know I'm being Ms. Crankypants, but do we have to start discussing the "High Holy Day of Crossdressers" in frickin January?

:hugs: for Ms. Crankypants. :)

Emma Leigh
01-15-2010, 07:26 AM
I don't know about you guys but i think that 90 percent of the guys who dress into girls on Halloween are cds like us. i mean why would someone who is completely straight and has no feminine traits would want to dress like a girl on Halloween.

In England, New Years Eve is the big dress up day, though halloween is catching it up, but at New Year, nearly every bloke who bothers to dress up, will be dressed as a tarty schoolgirl, now what does that say.

allisonrn06
01-15-2010, 07:26 AM
When my wife and I started dating, she wanted me to dress as a girl for Halloween. She didn't know then that I was a CD and when she first found out, wasn't accepting at all. Now that she's accepting it, she's not crazy about the idea of me dressing fem for Halloween. Not that she doesn't want me to do it, just doesn't want me to look too convincing, so that people aren't thinking, "he looks too good, or walks too well in heels."

Rianna Humble
01-15-2010, 07:28 AM
:hugs: for Ms. Crankypants. :)

:yt::iagree:

Karren H
01-15-2010, 09:56 AM
Funny I have never dressed enfemme on halloween! Fairey princesses don't pass well at the mall and there are really not good sales going on that time of year!

JenniferR771
01-15-2010, 10:14 AM
Age 11, my mom tried to get me to dress as a girl--but I said , "NOOO!" I was afraid of the possible teasing, afraid my 'problem' would get worse and also afraid I would be found out. Later I regretted it--huge opportunity lost.

But my friend Peter looked so good everyone thought he was a substitute teacher. His mother was a self-employed beautician.

sherri52
01-15-2010, 10:18 AM
If the makeup is applied almost perfectly then you can assume that they are in some way a cd. A perfectly straight man wou;dn't be able to get it on very well.

Erica2Sweet
01-15-2010, 10:22 AM
...why wouldn't Halloween be the perfect time of the year to come out or at least insist on that you are a cd by doing a really good job with your make up/dress and such...

Not to be a buzz-kill, but I have some mixed feelings about going out to a halloween event enfemme. It may be fun to joke about it, but deep-down, I just don't care for the idea of equating my femme side to a halloween gag, and I definitely don't want to project that idea to others around me, regardless of the situation. I like to be taken more seriously than that, even if I am a party-pooper in my view.

utah beauty
01-15-2010, 11:01 AM
I say hey... if you want to go out in femme... get the guts up just and do it anytime... :) not just halloween!

Sweet Jane
01-15-2010, 12:12 PM
i live in new zealand and halloween isn't really a big deal here (but retailers are doing their best to introduce another retail bonanza :thumbsdn:)...i think if that was the one day of the year you got dressed and went out, you'd get the same reaction as if you'd dressed any other day!!!!...theres no halloween 'get out of jail free' card here

VeronicaMoonlit
01-15-2010, 12:33 PM
Not to be a buzz-kill, but I have some mixed feelings about going out to a halloween event enfemme. It may be fun to joke about it, but deep-down, I just don't care for the idea of equating my femme side to a halloween gag, and I definitely don't want to project that idea to others around me, regardless of the situation. I like to be taken more seriously than that, even if I am a party-pooper in my view.

Yes, that's pretty much how I feel. The first time I went out in public dressed was on Halloween of 2001, and it was a bad idea. Not the going out en femme part, that was a good idea, but the Halloween part. Because it isn't a joke or lark and it wasn't a costume. I was lying to those who saw me and I think at least one person picked up on it ( and still makes semi-snarky nosy comments about that Halloween) I think I've said on these boards that I recommend the people don't dress for Halloween.

And it also ruined Halloween for me, though I suspect that will change if I ever realize my goal of going full time and it is still our favorite holiday. Hella fun handing out candy.

And thanks for the hugs, I can use them.

Veronica Rogers

Danielle76
01-15-2010, 01:32 PM
I've gone out in public many times, but it was always to some secluded spot at the edge of town where no one could see me. This last halloween was the first time I properly went out in public while dressed up. I went to a casino wearing a lbd, black thigh high stockings, stilettos, and a bustier with garters underneath. I also went and pumped gas that night. I LOVED the feeling of having a slice of what normal life would be as a woman. It was quite a turn on. I don't like to do that often as I fear the risk of someone recognizing me, but I definitely intend to do it again someday soon.

Sally2005
01-15-2010, 01:40 PM
Nonsense... Do the people who dress up like witches, goblins and scarecrows want to be those characters? It may be a good excuse for CDers to dress up, but be careful about using reverse logic to conclude that all people who dress up are CDers most of the other times. Anything is possible on Halloween and it is supposed to be all good fun.

Kitty Sue
01-15-2010, 02:52 PM
I don't know about 90%, but I am sure that Halloween is seen by many CDers as a freebie.

Kate Simmons
01-15-2010, 03:04 PM
Halloween is a free pass for way more than us Hon. Gotta be careful, that's when the CHUDS come out as well.:eek:

NathalieX66
01-15-2010, 03:14 PM
Halloween, IMO, isn't going to make your friends and peers realize your are a true crossdresser. The choices of attire are too wide open to the point that people don't look beyond your outfit. I've had married male friends dress up in ballerina tutus, nun habits, pvc miniskirts, you name it, but no one remembers.

I dressed as female this past Halloween....a little girl actually, but I did not dress as me, Nathalie, because even Nathalie wants to dress up too! (...geez, do I sound like a schizophrenic with muliple personality disorder yet?)

cindychan
01-15-2010, 03:48 PM
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Yup the greatest freebie for a C/D. I would say most of the high school/college age kids that c/d for halloween are not real C/Ds. Not to sure about other folks though.

suchacutie
01-15-2010, 05:49 PM
But..

You have to dress up AS someone, not just as a girl,

Non CDs would never try to do their makeup themselves, so it would probably be done as well as any GG since a GG will likely do it,

Coming out is a serious issue and, imho, not be done in this environment of silliness,

Acting well as a women is not a dead giveaway...many people have acted in their youth and would be able to pull it off for one night in a limited sphere. Also, there is practice and anyone who pulled if off would be proud of it, CD or no!

Anyway, I'm never been en femme for Halloween (was Darth Vadar, helmet, heels and all one year!). If I were to be en femme, I'd sure the devil want to be Elvira!!! :)

tina

frisbee_girl
01-15-2010, 06:12 PM
I invision this conversation happening.

Someone: Hey!
Me: Hey!
Someone: Dressed as a woman this year huh?
Me: Yep. Kind of crazy.
Someone: Yeah. Uh.. Didn't you dress up as a woman last year?
Me: Yeah I think I did.
Someone Else: Yeah you did. I think you did the year before that as well.
Me: Hmm.. Really? Yeah maybe.
And Yet Someone Else: Come to think of it. I've seen you dress as a woman in the last five or six Halloweens. WTF?!
Me: Saving money on costumes????

Super Amanda
01-15-2010, 06:16 PM
I just don't care for the idea of equating my femme side to a halloween gag


Well said! Now that I'm beginning transition, I passed on dressing this Halloween...I'm out to everyone, so to "dress up" on Halloween made me feel like I was parodying myself...

HOWEVER... I do feel that Halloween is a wonderful opportunity for those of us who want to gradually come out.

My first time was in '03, I was married then, so having my wife do my makeup made me look pretty good...I just wore nice clothes that fit, and most people did not even take notice. It was the first time my family saw me dressed, and my Mom loved it. My wife, however, just a month after my son was born on September 27, was not pleased at how much positive attention I was receiving, so I realized I should back off for a while.

After we split up, I dressed the first year we were apart, and the second, and third! By then I was sure everyone at the very least had a clue, because I always just dressed in normal (but cute!) outfits, purse and all. The most awkward questions were about who did my makeup, and where did I get the clothes, the answers of course being me and they're mine, respectively.

Long winded story short, once I came out, there was little surprise. So yes, I think Halloween is a great time for a closeted crossdresser to enjoy being in public, without fear of discovery, and it's also great for "testing the waters" with the people in your life. For me, once they saw me dressed as a woman, when I would start to get cold feet I would tell myself "It's not like they haven't already seen you like this.." which worked well for me. ;)

dilane
01-15-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm out and about a lot, but I don't go out in everyday girl-mode on Halloween; I figure the tranny-radar is on more than usual.

This last Halloween I did have a lot of fun and got some nice compliments as a flapper girl at my normal dance club haunt, and most of the GG's there were in costume, too. I've always had a blast at straight parties on the T-girl national holiday.

Taylor186
01-15-2010, 08:41 PM
I've been out on Halloween many times and yes, I've always found it to be a free pass, but I always go out wearing a femme costume, not my normal femme clothing. Seems to me if you're a cd/trans and you go out on Halloween wearing your normal, everyday women's clothing then you are missing the point of the holiday. And, you're asking for a higher level of unwanted scrutiny.

Edit: Also, I agree with the others who have suggested that if you really want to come out to your friends as a CD then Halloween is exactly the wrong time to do it if you want to be taken seriously.
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NoraTV
01-15-2010, 10:13 PM
...to be a free pass, then go for it, girl.

I usually dress up as the creepiest scariest witch or as the bad-assest (or is it most bad ass) dominatrix. Neither are the real me, but it's fun. And I also get to live en femme for much of the year, so playing a female role on October 31 is not that big a thing for me.

But it can be a big deal for some of us, and that's beautiful, too.

KateW
01-15-2010, 10:40 PM
If the makeup is applied almost perfectly then you can assume that they are in some way a cd. A perfectly straight man wou;dn't be able to get it on very well.

This is very true! I went as Boy George to a Karaoke party and all the girls commented that my makeup was TOO good. Some even asked me to close my eyes to study how I'd done it. Another apparent giveaway is if you wear panties under your girls clothes, instead of boxershorts, because only a CD would wear something you can't see.