OUT but it aint me...

[Chloe' Buffington]

my brother inlaw and sister inlaw moved in to the neighborhood. The wanted a new garage but they had a storage shed in the way so I bought it. My brother in law had no place to store his tool chest so he asked me if he could leave it in the shed till the garage is finnished, so I said yes. After moving it to my house and setting it up I needed a tool I did not have so I opened his tool box and I was surprized at what I found. 4 large ladies swim suits, a wig, a small makeup kit and some clip on earings. I know what I should do, put it back and forget about it, but what if... We get along almost too well, is this why? I just don't know what I should do? Bring it up? Leave it alone? I don't want to embarass him, but I don't want to miss an oppertunity to have a new sister. I am leaning tword forget about what I found.

["Mary"]

Put it back and don't bring it up. But, be open to the topic and related topics/discussions.

[sherri52]

It's time for a new sister. Now for the other two questions. Does his wife know? Does your wife know about him? interesting. Put a rubber band on your wrist nad bring up the clothes after he notices. Do it Friday

[aggi123]

It's time for a new sister. Now for the other two questions. Does his wife know? Does your wife know about him? interesting. Put a rubber band on your wrist nad bring up the clothes after he notices. Do it Friday

I second this :)

[Nicole Erin]

It wasn't your stuff was it? :heehee:

Options -
Start singing "dude looks like a lady" when you see him

Bring it up at a big family gathering.

When the guys are hanging out having a beer, come in dancing with his wig and sing "Man, I feel like a woman".

Next time he comes over, answer the door in torn fishnets, combat boots, and a VC bra.

When you two are hanging out, start asking to borrow tools. "Yeah I was doing a head gasket and wanted to know if I could borrow that 1/2 drive 5/8 impact socket, you know the one right next to your purple teddy". Just say it with total indifference. then he might correct you and say real quick "BITCH that teddy is fuschia, learn your colors!"

OK maybe not the best ideas.

Look, don't say anything about finding it, not yet anyways. But I think it might be safe to come out. It will be an akward coming out as he will immediately think of his own trannyness.

Best case scenario - You two will come out to each other and then you two can be brothers AND sisters.

Worst case - he might want you to two to have some "you time" in your best lingerie. :heehee:

I imagine he will probably show you his toolbox. Did he have any plastic tools in there?

Ehh I better scurry off now....

[Joni Marie Cruz]

I don't think I'd say anything either. Just put everything back the way you found it and keep it strictly to yourself. But I would carefully, in a non-obvious way, find an opportunity to bring up the subject of being TG, whether it's a television program, or movie, or something in the news when you and your BIL are alone, maybe over a beer or two. And if he doesn't rise to the bait, then I'd just leave it. Don't worry, he won't forget and will come out when the time is right for him. At least that's how I see it.

Best wishes to you both and to your families as well.

Hugs...Joni Mari

[AKAMichelle]

Why feel guilty for borrowing a tool? He had to know if he stored it at your place that it could be found. Maybe it's time to tell someone else. Maybe then you will find something else that both of you can share.

[kellycan27]

Maybe leave some of your girly stuff in close proximity to his tool box and let him accidentally "discover" yours. This would more or less put you and he on equal ground.

[Kitty Sue]

I would not make any decision for at least 72 hours.

[Sally2005]

Any chance he knows about you and planted it there as a gag? I would forget about it, but you could plant a calling card with www.crossdressers.com and on it and see if he ever joins.

[Sweet Jane]

be super observant when you're with him...one day you may see the bra strap outlined, or a glimpse of panties.....then that is the time to chat with him i guess....

[txrobinm]

Entrapment is a possibility- tread carefully.

I like Nicole's idea best- "hey, can I borrow your torque wrench? You know, the one under the purple teddy" or whatever it was. If he was concerned about security, he would've locked it or found another place to keep it. If his reply is positive, or denying (indicating entrapment is not the purpose), then you could say "I've got a toolbox like that, too" or something to that effect.

My first reaction is that he is a CDer, and suspects you are, too (no lock on the toolbox, etc), or at least wouldn't be surprised if you are.

Of course, if he's only a novice at sneaking, he may have thought his stash secure. Wait, and watch- a moment will present itself eventually.

[docrobbysherry]

Just BE CAREFUL, girl! U MAY BE standing in a MINEFIELD!:brolleyes:

[Nicole Erin]

Any chance he knows about you and planted it there as a gag? I would forget about it, but you could plant a calling card with www.crossdressers.com and on it and see if he ever joins.

Well, one would wonder why the guy would put a toolbox with femme garb in it into the garage like that.

On the other hand, would someone really go thru that much trouble just for a gag? If he had put in like say ONE pair of pantyhose or whatever then yeah maybe gag. Maybe if he had like a Lou Reed "walk on the wildside" singe CD...
Would his wife maybe be fat enough to wear the swimsuits?

Ya gotta think, if this was a joke, well, I don't know, his fav thing might be swimsuits.

I would bet $20 that the makeup set is one of those cheap "The Color workshop" sets that everyone in the world eventually gets for Christmas. n00bs and novices use those things.

[CATgirldo]

Your in law asked a favor not expecting for you to find out. He will be horrified if he knew you found out. If it's important to you.. you need to take the step and come out to him first and not tell him you know. If he wants to tell you, that will be his chance. THEN you can mention you thought so.
Still take it slowly, feel him out. Someone mentioned it might be a trap so there is a risk.
If the risk is too great, forget all about it. The closeness you share could be a detriment.

My 2 cents

CAT

[sterling12]

Well, let's try The "Shoes on The Other Foot Method." Let's suppose he discovered your "stash." Would you want to be confronted about it? I think you see my point.

It's likely he forgot he put The Stuff there...people do get absent-minded, especially when rushing around and moving a household.

Maybe, if your real careful; in The Future, you can drop some hints about yourself. I know it's a huge temptation to find a CD Buddy, but I think you would be better off trying to do that within a Social/Support Group. Those people are "Out," and looking to make friends.... currently, your Brother-In-Law isn't! Your two are now "Family," and that could be for The Rest of your Lives. If you make a mistake, think of The Long-Term Consequences.

Peace and Love, Joanie

[JiveTurkeyOnRye]

Well, let's try The "Shoes on The Other Foot Method." Let's suppose he discovered your "stash." Would you want to be confronted about it? I think you see my point.



Yes, if you phrase it that way, but why does it have to be a confrontation? If the other person was also a crossdresser and just wanted to say, hey it's ok, you're not alone, or heck even if the person wasn't a crossdresser but they delicately phrased the fact that they found the stuff but wanted to reassure me that it wasn't a big deal, then it wouldn't bother me that much and in the long run I'd be happy with it.

[Loni]

say nothing.:doh:

in the near future put a postet note in the box with the web address of "cross dressers.com":heehee:

then let him/her do the next step.:hugs:

nothing more say or do.:2c:

.

[missygatv]

I second all the girls that caution you not to say anything about it. The only way this is remotely acceptable is if you come out to him first and let him decide to come out to you.

Hope it goes well.

[Phyliss]

Two options:

Say something, or keep quiet.

Mentioning anything in any way opens up too many doors.

Saying nothing allows him to keep his "secret" and pride.

If this was some sort of elaborate gag or "trap" , then, by saying nothing you turn the tables on him.

Many years ago, I took great pains to set up a friend and I know the "gag" worked but he never said anything. Almost 5 years later at a social function, he casually mentioned the incident to another friend, without naming any names, almost bit my tounge in half keeping silent and holding a straight face. I know he suspects me, but I never let on that I was the culprit.
He may never say anything about it, and by you not letting on that you "know" will probably be the best course.
If he really wants to out himself, he'll have to do better than leaving some swin suits in his tool box.

[Michelle 51]

Put it back and don't bring it up. But, be open to the topic and related topics/discussions.

I think this would be my approach also because there might be another reason for this stuff being there but it sure looks like a another sister to me.

[Joanne f]

Well, let's try The "Shoes on The Other Foot Method." Let's suppose he discovered your "stash." Would you want to be confronted about it? I think you see my point.

It's likely he forgot he put The Stuff there...people do get absent-minded, especially when rushing around and moving a household.

Maybe, if your real careful; in The Future, you can drop some hints about yourself. I know it's a huge temptation to find a CD Buddy, but I think you would be better off trying to do that within a Social/Support Group. Those people are "Out," and looking to make friends.... currently, your Brother-In-Law isn't! Your two are now "Family," and that could be for The Rest of your Lives. If you make a mistake, think of The Long-Term Consequences.

Peace and Love, Joanie

I would agree with that and also take into account what Sally2005 has said , so all in all it is best to forget about it and let him worry about it .

[DonnaT]

I was surprized at what I found. 4 large ladies swim suits, a wig, a small makeup kit and some clip on earings.

Sounds like you removed the items from the tool box.

Did you put them back so he won't be able to tell they were touched?

Think of the worry he'll be going through if he notices that his things were tampered with.

I, for one, wouldn't want to have that worry on my mind.

So, I'd tell him, "Look, don't get upset, because I'm cool with it, but I was looking in your tool box for a tool I didn't have. If you are using it to hide things from your wife, I suggest putting a lock on it."

[Kate Simmons]

Everything is not always as it appears or seems to be. Sometimes our enthusiasm gets the better of us and we can get booby trapped. Unless you yourself are prepared to be outed or don't care I'd say let it work itself out.:)

[Veronica75]

I really, really doubt it's a gag. Too random that you might go into his toolbox, rather than your own, to find a tool. He probably just got sloppy and didn't protect his stash well enough.

I see why people say don't bring it up, but it is also a golden opportunity to get a new sister, especially since you said you get along very well with him already.

Why don't you invite him over for NFL championship Sunday, just you and him, buy a 12 pack-- no, better, a case of beer, and see if it comes up in conversation? Maybe you could break the ice by asking, jokingly, which of the QBs still standing would look the best in drag (my vote would be for Mark Sanchez, followed by Drew Brees, but that's beside the point).

Either way, good luck!

[lavistaa62]

You mentioned you're scarily close- what is closeness if not a signal that you both feel comfortable talking with one another. Exactly what to say or when to say it depends on your dynamics of course but if you would enjoy some companionship and think there will be opportunities to do something together enfemme or just talk about it- then I'd say it's worth discussing with him. Not having knowingly met another CD'er in person, it's tough to say how it would feel and I'd think about whether that experience sounds pleasant or not to you.

If you're happy just dressing yourself then let it ride and maybe put a pair of panties or hose in there for him- or maybe some better makeup. In this case after doing this, if he doesn't mention it, you don't have to either.

[Anna the Dub]

It's all very well thinking you have found a new sister and so on, but what about his feelings? He could have his own demons to conquer and may not appreciate being spoken to about his personal life. Leave it be. It is his business, and up to him if he ever wants to talk to you about it. Don't force the issue on him.

[Ericka2]

It wasn't your stuff was it? :heehee:

Options -
Start singing "dude looks like a lady" when you see him

Bring it up at a big family gathering.

When the guys are hanging out having a beer, come in dancing with his wig and sing "Man, I feel like a woman".

Next time he comes over, answer the door in torn fishnets, combat boots, and a VC bra.

When you two are hanging out, start asking to borrow tools. "Yeah I was doing a head gasket and wanted to know if I could borrow that 1/2 drive 5/8 impact socket, you know the one right next to your purple teddy". Just say it with total indifference. then he might correct you and say real quick "BITCH that teddy is fuschia, learn your colors!"

OK maybe not the best ideas.

Look, don't say anything about finding it, not yet anyways. But I think it might be safe to come out. It will be an akward coming out as he will immediately think of his own trannyness.

Best case scenario - You two will come out to each other and then you two can be brothers AND sisters.

Worst case - he might want you to two to have some "you time" in your best lingerie. :heehee:

I imagine he will probably show you his toolbox. Did he have any plastic tools in there?

Ehh I better scurry off now....

Great sense of humor, I love it!

[rhondamichelle]

Hi Chloe,

I've read the replies to this post and I think the best one is to wait 72 hrs or maybe even a week as there are a lot of variables involved. When in doubt it's best to do nothing as once you say or do something, it can't be undone. To quote the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz "These matters must be handled delicately,,," lol. Just my :2c:

Sincerely,

Rhonda Michelle

[Lorileah]

Amazing how people think here. 80% of people on CD.com are in the closet to the world and very few of those are out to even family, yet twice this week we have had threads asking if we should "out" someone else. :doh: C'mon people think about it. If you were the one who forgot your stash (how THAT happens I'll never know when people are afraid or their own shadow) and your friend (wife cousin paperboy) found it how would YOU feel if they came to you even in private and said "hey, you wear girl clothes?" I have visions of opening a door with a hundred mice and flipping the light switch...two hundred eyes open as wide as they can be and 400 scampering feet as they try and hide. This is exactly the reaction I would expect from the majority of CDers here.

"Uh, it was a Halloween costume." "Uh my wife makes me wear that." "Uh I was holding it for a friend." "uh I bought that tool box at an auction and I never opened it." There have even been threads here about HOW to lie about it when you get caught. If it were me I would look at you and say "What the he** were you doing in MY tool box?" (no keeping it in storage doesn't give you the right to use his tools, would you drive his Porsche if he left it with you?). Do you honestly think that they are going to look you in the eye and say "Yeah that's mine...and I like it." Maybe 10% chance of that at best.

Here's what you ask yourself. WWRPD (what would RuPaul Do ..since she is a god to the TG community). If it was you would you want someone to come to you and say..."Hey, nice duds...dude."? It is the same belief I have for the gay community and really any other community. It isn't your business to "Out" someone else. Out yourself first. Then if they want they can come to you and you can have a dress up party. Until then MYOB

:brolleyes:

Amazing

[carolinoakland]

I agree that on the face of it there is no gag. I also think that you should approach everything from the stand point of " what if it was me..." And being respectful is NEVER a bad thing. Carol

[Veronica75]

Amazing how people think here. 80% of people on CD.com are in the closet to the world and very few of those are out to even family, yet twice this week we have had threads asking if we should "out" someone else. :doh: C'mon people think about it. If you were the one who forgot your stash (how THAT happens I'll never know when people are afraid or their own shadow) and your friend (wife cousin paperboy) found it how would YOU feel if they came to you even in private and said "hey, you wear girl clothes?" I have visions of opening a door with a hundred mice and flipping the light switch...two hundred eyes open as wide as they can be and 400 scampering feet as they try and hide. This is exactly the reaction I would expect from the majority of CDers here.

"Uh, it was a Halloween costume." "Uh my wife makes me wear that." "Uh I was holding it for a friend." "uh I bought that tool box at an auction and I never opened it." There have even been threads here about HOW to lie about it when you get caught. If it were me I would look at you and say "What the he** were you doing in MY tool box?" (no keeping it in storage doesn't give you the right to use his tools, would you drive his Porsche if he left it with you?). Do you honestly think that they are going to look you in the eye and say "Yeah that's mine...and I like it." Maybe 10% chance of that at best.

Here's what you ask yourself. WWRPD (what would RuPaul Do ..since she is a god to the TG community). If it was you would you want someone to come to you and say..."Hey, nice duds...dude."? It is the same belief I have for the gay community and really any other community. It isn't your business to "Out" someone else. Out yourself first. Then if they want they can come to you and you can have a dress up party. Until then MYOB

:brolleyes:

Amazing

Good post, the one thing I'm unclear on is what you mean by "out" in this context? The two ways I would normally expect to see that term used would be to divulge knowledge of someone's crossdressing either to an individual, a group, or publicly. Whether anyone likes it or not, and whether the brother-in-law knows it or not, he is already "out" to the original poster-- there is a high likelihood that he's a CDer, based on what was seen in the toolbox. As far as sharing that knowledge with others, I don't think that was ever suggested, and it would be indescribably hurtful and cruel.

I do agree, I don't think the course of action here is saying, "Hey dude, I saw what you have in your tool box and I cross dress too!" That would put anyone on the defensive and make him very likely to shut down the conversation with a convenient explanation.

But if you DO get along with him, and you ARE interested in maybe drawing him out as a sister, what the stuff in the toolbox constitutes is NOT a conversation starter, but an indication that he probably CDs, and MIGHT be receptive to doing so with you. So making positive references to crossdressers and crossdressing, making vague indications that you are OK with it, might be strategies to use to see if you get any positive response back from him. If he meets you half way on positive comments, it gives you the opportunity to engage more, in small steps. If he reacts negatively, then you know to back off and leave it alone.

[Samantha_Smile]

My and my buddies are fairly into out motors.
One of them has a really nice workshop set-up.
If I discovered a wig and some panties in one of his more 'buried under crap' toolboxes whilst in search of a 3/8 ratchet that still has more than 50% of its teeth intact, I'd casually leave it, and bring it up later.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Friend -"Dude, have you seen my calliper winding set anywhere?"

Me- "Yeah man, its in the black toolbox under your panties... theyre quite pretty"
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I like this idea, its non-threatening,
If he looks spooked, then just follow up with

"Man, I'd need like 5 of those boxes for my frillies"
This can later be passed off as a joke if it is a trap.
But I doubt that it is.
Sounds like he just got sloppy when he was moving.

What you do now just depends on how brave you are.

[Brooke Smith]

Sounds like you removed the items from the tool box.

Did you put them back so he won't be able to tell they were touched?

Think of the worry he'll be going through if he notices that his things were tampered with.

I, for one, wouldn't want to have that worry on my mind.

So, I'd tell him, "Look, don't get upset, because I'm cool with it, but I was looking in your tool box for a tool I didn't have. If you are using it to hide things from your wife, I suggest putting a lock on it."

Of all the answers I've read,this is the only one that allows you to be completely honest.

You found the stash by accident. He had to know he left the stuff there and if you moved it at all he will know, or think you know, about it.

Say exactly what Donna suggested and you are off the hook and don't have to out yourself at all if you don't care to.:2c:

[Christina Horton]

I would say sit down with him and your sister and tell them about you.....They may be shocked and then tell you about him , or not. Then after you tell them pull him aside and tell him you found his stash and would he like t talk about it.

Just my :2c:

[Chloe' Buffington]

Ok this is alot of interest, more than I thought I would get. His wife knows about Chloe' but I don't know if she told him. If the stuf is hers that would make the whole thing wierd. I think I'll say nothing, I put it all back exactly as I found it. I will be making mental notes of what he's wearing and how his nails look, looking for the tell tale bra strap and the like. I got a whole lot of good advice in all of you girls posts. Thank you.
If it were mine and he found it I am not sure how I'd react, so for now I'll concider his feeling as if they were my own. Say Nothing, Do nothing and Smile to myself.

[Lorileah]

Good post, the one thing I'm unclear on is what you mean by "out" in this context? The two ways I would normally expect to see that term used would be to divulge knowledge of someone's crossdressing either to an individual, a group, or publicly. Whether anyone likes it or not, and whether the brother-in-law knows it or not, he is already "out" to the original poster-- there is a high likelihood that he's a CDer, based on what was seen in the toolbox. As far as sharing that knowledge with others, I don't think that was ever suggested, and it would be indescribably hurtful and cruel.


Good point, I'll try and clarify. Outting him in this case would be as an individual, as in telling him you know his secret. Letting him know you know what you think you know. Is there a high likelihood he is a CD? Let me put on my "I'm not a CD" cap (well known to many here in the land of "I ain't...")

1).They are rags I use to clean my 30-06, which I may be thinking of using since you accused me (Or since they are in my tool box, on the fender to keep from scratching it)

2). They were my sister's (cousin's, aunt's) that I took out of her house when she died (moved, left her no good husband).

3). I'm a fetishist. I only touch them, I don't wear them.

:) CD's are very good at denial. Just because I have a sports car doesn't make me a race car driver. I own a guitar, but I am not a rock star. I wouldn't make that assumption.

[danielle.cd]

maybe it was his wifes idea and to hide the stuff inthere so u would see it especially if he put his tool box at your house, no one forgets where they stashed the goods it like hiding gold u just dont forget, plus if u werent ment to see them the toolbox would have been locked, now as to bringing up the whole deal i would just put something extra in there and then when he gets it back he will know u saw and let them bring it up to u

[Sally24]

Maybe leave some of your girly stuff in close proximity to his tool box and let him accidentally "discover" yours. This would more or less put you and he on equal ground.
Something along this line would be my suggestion too.

[ChanDelle]

I agree with Lorileah. It's a slippery slope at best. Might be a joke as his wife knows and you don't know if he knows about Chloe? I smell a rat ( or at least the essence of rat). I could be a simple mistake or a joke. I simply wouldn't take the bait just in case it's a simple mistake and could cause embarrassment to him. Or perhaps embarrassment to you if it is a trap or joke. To many ways to loose on this one if you don't just ignore it.

Is it possible he's on here and a CD? That'd resolve it.

ChanDelle

[Genifer Teal]

Regardless of what you ultimately do, wait a few days, then, if you choose, talk to him privately.

Now let me relate a story. I recently met someone at a local TG event. I saw them at the bar and commented how they reminded me of someone I work with. With that, she confirmed what I wasn't even thinking. We do work for the same company. This is a large company with thousands of employees. We do not work directly together but in the same building and have actually worked together on a few occasions.

Now for the related part. (s)he tells me (s)he knew about me for 5 years. (s)he noticed me first at a previous event. I was shocked and disappointed that a potential friend and comrade at my job hid it from me for so long when (s)he knew about me. Maybe (s)he was hiding herself. Who knows. I think it is great and wish we both met that first time (s)he discovered me.

I think it is great to share a secret like this with someone. It is hard enough finding friends with our mutual interests. Now I have one in the building at work. We know there is at least one person we can each rely on for help at work. I just wish I'd have known sooner. I feel cheated to not have known all those times we have worked together in the past. (s)he was extra nice. I'm glad I was to.

If I was your brother, I'd like to know. That's just my opinion.

Gen

[Joann Smith]

offer him 1000 bucks for his tool box ....and see what happens ....if he its yours with out batting an eye ...the stuff not his .....if he piss his pants ....say got ya...sis !

Joann

[AmandaM]

Course, it could have been put there to see if you'd steal it. Then he, or whomever would know you're a cder. Then again, here's a story. When an ex-girlfriend told all of my friends about my hobby, they all left me. But one of them, hinted around at how pretty I would be as a girl, etc. There were also a few signs, that he was looking for a sexual opening. So, a little paranoia wouldn't be bad right now. I think your idea is the best. Keep quiet and look for signs. If he seems to be transgendered, maybe let a little of yourself out.

[Evie08]

Perhaps your BIL is a member of this forum and will read all the posts?? And maybe respond?

[KerryLynn]

my brother inlaw and sister inlaw moved in to the neighborhood. The wanted a new garage but they had a storage shed in the way so I bought it. My brother in law had no place to store his tool chest so he asked me if he could leave it in the shed till the garage is finnished, so I said yes. After moving it to my house and setting it up I needed a tool I did not have so I opened his tool box and I was surprized at what I found. 4 large ladies swim suits, a wig, a small makeup kit and some clip on earings. I know what I should do, put it back and forget about it, but what if... We get along almost too well, is this why? I just don't know what I should do? Bring it up? Leave it alone? I don't want to embarass him, but I don't want to miss an oppertunity to have a new sister. I am leaning tword forget about what I found.

he he pack a small tool box or other container and ask him if he can store it and maybe peak in and find out that way just a thought

[JamieOH]

next time he is over, just throw open the tool box, and then throw open your OWN tool box, and have similar stuff int it.. and watch his mouth...

hehehe Seriously.. that would be great, and you'll both get a good laugh out of it..

[Katie Moore]

Maybe leave some of your girly stuff in close proximity to his tool box and let him accidentally "discover" yours. This would more or less put you and he on equal ground.

Even better, buy something special and put it in there with a card that says " from a friend". But let him bring it up.

:2c:

Katie

[Chloe' Buffington]

I got the answer today at brunch with my Brother in law and sister in law. We went to a resturant with a female cousin, the cousin sugested they have a girls afternoon at a hotel with an indoor pool and my sister in law turned to her husband and said she could not find her swim dresses. He told her the last time he saw them they were in the garage next to his tool chest before the move. She called her son, who helped with the move, and he told her that stuff was in the bottom drawer of the tool chest. He had put as much of what he found in the garage in there. I am soo glad I did not bring it up. He had no knowlage of it and I played dumb when the whole exchange was taking place. They just left here with all of the swim suits none the wiser that I knew. Thank you all for your input and suggestions.:love:

[JiveTurkeyOnRye]

How'd they explain the wig?

[suchacutie]

Hmmm, was this a one-act play for your enjoyment?

Does this really add up??

tina

[Genifer Teal]

Still wondering about the wig. Also, it seems possible this explanation came up when he realized what may have been left in the tool box and you could find.

There is a lot on your mind when moving. You might have to hide some things. The tool box could seem like a great idea if you need to quickly hide something before the next box is moved and it becomes visible. Then, a few days later you realize you have no where to put the tool box in your new place. You are happy to have a brother to hold on to it - maybe along with some other boxes. What you temporarily tossed in it 40 packed boxes and several days ago could easily slip you mind for a moment.

Just saying I am not ready to pass judgment on weather or not it could wind up there accidentally.

Gen

[Ruth]

We generally pay our posters the courtesy of assuming they are telling the truth when they post stories, but this one is starting to unravel. Are you sure this all really happened?

[Chloe' Buffington]

I took pictures...

[nikkijo]

if it was my box NOBODY would have access to my box in storage, regardless of WHERE it was stored.. friends, family ect.... but with 100K or more in tools one could see why i wouldnt allow access.... even iif i stashed anything in there (which i have)