Gillian
02-09-2010, 05:03 AM
Hi all,
I have read quite a few posts that ask about being single, dating and relationships, and thought I would share about a very interesting couple, names changed for obvious reasons.
We met and got to love them in a period around 1999/2000 (when I was in a position of being mostly unable to dress and be Gillian, by coincidence) before We moved back home from another and distant part of the UK. We had been making local neighbour friends and work friends and this got into meeting up with them out of hours and one thing lead to another and one night we ended up at one of these friends for dinner as a sort of reunion from an earlier job, that was when we were introduced to a couple whom we instantly "liked" we spent a long time talking with them and he and I shared interests and had much to get along on, my wife loved Alana,,, (yes you can see whats coming but read on its a nice recount of a lovely time in our lives) and she was very elegant, slender with stunning darkblond highlighted hair piercing green grey eyes etc etc flawless make up, always (this continued even at weekends to my surprise at that time! and so many wonderfully feminine clothes that it was just glorious for me as a CD to see her to see how she would be dressed.
Well we had a good time at the dinner party and vowed to keep in touch, which we did and a few weeks later we went to see a film together then a drink and then we wandered home, they had us over to dinner we reciprocated and we became tight. During this I always really loved them as friends but one night my SO hinted that Alana was really quite special what did I think of her and did I find her "attractive" or "attractive" we had all had a fir bit to drink and this was back in the coinfines of our home alone so we discussed it and why we liked them, and it came out Alana had confessed to Esther that she was a Post-op TG/TS of some years then, and that she and her partner had met through chance two years after her transition, liked each other, but had taken thing's slowly in those early days, and after a very painfull process in worrying about losing him, she confessed to him and after some serious debate and much soul searching, they decided to stay in a relationship and see where it would go. They had told almost no-one outside family, save a few of the closest friends, and it was an alcohol fuelled confession to my SO that probably wasn't fully intended but spur of the moment but they and us felt so comfortable with each other that out it popped. He was in I.T. she was in sales, her job before and after, but sadly with different companies we learned due to harrasement.
The first meeting after I learned of this was slightly uncomfortable, I mean, I was a closet CD, then in denial, she was born male in the wrong body, he was? well, I was in a flat spin for a moment. (I am hesitating as I write this to ensure I describe the stage we went through next) Neither Nick or Alana (not their real names again I must stress) knew how we would react I was a little akward but we arrived.
The door opened and Nick escorted us in quite shy sheepish almost, Esther threw off her coat and wandered in to the kitchen, I stayed with Nick and he brought Beer's, and we sat, the silence felt like it lasted an eternity but was no longer than a minute, I sadi literally the first thing that came into my mind and totally Spur of the moment, I said,,, " You know mate, of all the women in our social circle I adore Alana most, she is beautiful and your a lucky guy" then "I wish the pair of you a lifetime of happiness look after her"
The look of relief and euphoria was room filling, I can tell you.
We "sort of" discussed it as couples ever so briefly maybe a five or ten minute question and answer thing, but thereafter they were Nick and "A" as she loved to be called. I adored them, we adored them. We used to come home to Scotland at hoiliday times, and we even dragged them up with us one time for a very long weekend where they stayed at my SO's folks, no-one knew or ever thought anything from what we know Then I remember vividly hearing Nick's animated talk of a new job opp. He had got a contract abroad 12 months or so there after coming out to us, he and "A" moved to Turin of all bloomin places, his wallet for Alana would never be the same and I thought of the irony of the beauty there and the beauty going there.
I lost touch about four(ish) years ago, my computer crashed out and all the details were lost, in truth things were never the same, we didn't get the chance to get over there as our daughter came along, they didn't come back to the UK for their own reasons and at one point he was even talking of Kazakhstan with a massive I.T support company or some aspect of it, and the emails simply slowed then stopped. After my computer crash I didn't get an email to re-start things, but at that time you move on and don't linger, well now I am so sorry and so sad I didn't, I have Bebo's Facebooked and tweeted, googled yahoogled and altavista'd so many times to see if I can locate them but as neither have re-contacted us either????
My conclusions on all this (and so sorry for rambling but some may enjoy what I am expressing) is that Nick wasn't gay, as it were, he simply fell in love with a woman who had had extensive reconstructive surgery, was the conclusion I came to then and stay with now, and there is my position, in his shoes, I would willingly happily follow my heart too!
Alana? well I doubt she was Bi, but believe her to be born in the wrong body so my belief is that she is, well,,, probably simply, straight, just not in conventional terms?
I hope this is useful to even one person to inspire hope and bring a smile.
I have read quite a few posts that ask about being single, dating and relationships, and thought I would share about a very interesting couple, names changed for obvious reasons.
We met and got to love them in a period around 1999/2000 (when I was in a position of being mostly unable to dress and be Gillian, by coincidence) before We moved back home from another and distant part of the UK. We had been making local neighbour friends and work friends and this got into meeting up with them out of hours and one thing lead to another and one night we ended up at one of these friends for dinner as a sort of reunion from an earlier job, that was when we were introduced to a couple whom we instantly "liked" we spent a long time talking with them and he and I shared interests and had much to get along on, my wife loved Alana,,, (yes you can see whats coming but read on its a nice recount of a lovely time in our lives) and she was very elegant, slender with stunning darkblond highlighted hair piercing green grey eyes etc etc flawless make up, always (this continued even at weekends to my surprise at that time! and so many wonderfully feminine clothes that it was just glorious for me as a CD to see her to see how she would be dressed.
Well we had a good time at the dinner party and vowed to keep in touch, which we did and a few weeks later we went to see a film together then a drink and then we wandered home, they had us over to dinner we reciprocated and we became tight. During this I always really loved them as friends but one night my SO hinted that Alana was really quite special what did I think of her and did I find her "attractive" or "attractive" we had all had a fir bit to drink and this was back in the coinfines of our home alone so we discussed it and why we liked them, and it came out Alana had confessed to Esther that she was a Post-op TG/TS of some years then, and that she and her partner had met through chance two years after her transition, liked each other, but had taken thing's slowly in those early days, and after a very painfull process in worrying about losing him, she confessed to him and after some serious debate and much soul searching, they decided to stay in a relationship and see where it would go. They had told almost no-one outside family, save a few of the closest friends, and it was an alcohol fuelled confession to my SO that probably wasn't fully intended but spur of the moment but they and us felt so comfortable with each other that out it popped. He was in I.T. she was in sales, her job before and after, but sadly with different companies we learned due to harrasement.
The first meeting after I learned of this was slightly uncomfortable, I mean, I was a closet CD, then in denial, she was born male in the wrong body, he was? well, I was in a flat spin for a moment. (I am hesitating as I write this to ensure I describe the stage we went through next) Neither Nick or Alana (not their real names again I must stress) knew how we would react I was a little akward but we arrived.
The door opened and Nick escorted us in quite shy sheepish almost, Esther threw off her coat and wandered in to the kitchen, I stayed with Nick and he brought Beer's, and we sat, the silence felt like it lasted an eternity but was no longer than a minute, I sadi literally the first thing that came into my mind and totally Spur of the moment, I said,,, " You know mate, of all the women in our social circle I adore Alana most, she is beautiful and your a lucky guy" then "I wish the pair of you a lifetime of happiness look after her"
The look of relief and euphoria was room filling, I can tell you.
We "sort of" discussed it as couples ever so briefly maybe a five or ten minute question and answer thing, but thereafter they were Nick and "A" as she loved to be called. I adored them, we adored them. We used to come home to Scotland at hoiliday times, and we even dragged them up with us one time for a very long weekend where they stayed at my SO's folks, no-one knew or ever thought anything from what we know Then I remember vividly hearing Nick's animated talk of a new job opp. He had got a contract abroad 12 months or so there after coming out to us, he and "A" moved to Turin of all bloomin places, his wallet for Alana would never be the same and I thought of the irony of the beauty there and the beauty going there.
I lost touch about four(ish) years ago, my computer crashed out and all the details were lost, in truth things were never the same, we didn't get the chance to get over there as our daughter came along, they didn't come back to the UK for their own reasons and at one point he was even talking of Kazakhstan with a massive I.T support company or some aspect of it, and the emails simply slowed then stopped. After my computer crash I didn't get an email to re-start things, but at that time you move on and don't linger, well now I am so sorry and so sad I didn't, I have Bebo's Facebooked and tweeted, googled yahoogled and altavista'd so many times to see if I can locate them but as neither have re-contacted us either????
My conclusions on all this (and so sorry for rambling but some may enjoy what I am expressing) is that Nick wasn't gay, as it were, he simply fell in love with a woman who had had extensive reconstructive surgery, was the conclusion I came to then and stay with now, and there is my position, in his shoes, I would willingly happily follow my heart too!
Alana? well I doubt she was Bi, but believe her to be born in the wrong body so my belief is that she is, well,,, probably simply, straight, just not in conventional terms?
I hope this is useful to even one person to inspire hope and bring a smile.