Do you see GG's in a different way now?

[Destiny]

I noticed something about myself the other day. I work with a group of guys and we work in an office building with a lot of females who we interact with a good bit during breaks, lunch, etc. All men are pigs, that's no secret, and we typically talk about the same things all men do when there are no famales around. The thing is, I look at them differently than the rest of the guys and what I mean by that is, they just look at them and see they are attractive. When I look at them, I am looking to see what it is that makes them attractive. Im looking at how they're dressed, checking out their nails and their makeup, watching the different ways they stand or walk. I guess Im trying to say that while the other guys see them and want to be with them, I see them and want to be them. lol Anybody else notice this tendency about themselves?

[VanessaVW]

Yep, and many GG's say that I'm a great listener too (guess I might understand a little more???)

[ArleneRaquel]

No not really. Now I admire them even more. I have always loved them. :)

[Kaz]

Yeah, that's me too... GGs are amazingly wonderful people... (what a surprise!! :lol)

I look a lot and as you say it isn't about male preditor stuff.. it's about learning... Women are really wonderful aren't they?

They are more individualistic than (the norm) men but also more collective/nurturing in their thinking... That's where I am...

I'm a girl - and I don't like blokes!

Kaz xx

[SuzanneBender]

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Kaz you are so right. I look at women in such a different way now. It’s almost indescribable because I can't really remember how I related to them when I was touting all kinds of bravado and trying to convince the world and myself I was a man.

I look at women to see what they are wearing, how they carry themselves and in social settings I am summing them up to determine if I want to share my friendship with them.

When in social situations anymore I almost always gravitate to the "other room" with the wives. Its a much nicer place to be.

[Destiny]

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Kaz you are so right. I look at women in such a different way now. It’s almost indescribable because I can't really remember how I related to them when I was touting all kinds of bravado and trying to convince the world and myself I was a man.

I look at women to see what they are wearing, how they carry themselves and in social settings I am summing them up to determine if I want to share my friendship with them.

When in social situations anymore I almost always gravitate to the "other room" with the wives. Its a much nicer place to be.


LOL, I am ALWAYS with "the wives". I also catch myself trying to get a read on which ones I think would be cool if they only knew, some of them I think "I bet I could talk makeup with this girl" while I can tell that some of the others would most likely be, well, less friendly You never know though, right? Cant really judge a book by it's cover, we ALL know that. haha

On a side note, I notice more and more that their are some GG's out there who could really use a hand from us girls here at CD.com when it comes to their clothes and makeup!!
:D

[wishing2bali]

I noticed something about myself the other day. I work with a group of guys and we work in an office building with a lot of females who we interact with a good bit during breaks, lunch, etc. All men are pigs, that's no secret, and we typically talk about the same things all men do when there are no famales around. The thing is, I look at them differently than the rest of the guys and what I mean by that is, they just look at them and see they are attractive. When I look at them, I am looking to see what it is that makes them attractive. Im looking at how they're dressed, checking out their nails and their makeup, watching the different ways they stand or walk. I guess Im trying to say that while the other guys see them and want to be with them, I see them and want to be them. lol Anybody else notice this tendency about themselves?

I do the exact same thing when I'm around women, regardless if I find them attractive or not. Watching how they stand, fix their hair, their movements greeting friends, etc...

[docrobbysherry]

The first things I notice, r the same ones I did for the 40 years before I began CDing!:brolleyes:

[IamSara]

i notice the way they dress, walk, their hair styles and all the small little things most men just ignore. Yes I think we tend to look at them a little differently.
Sarah :rose2:

[Dee2U]

I know for certain that I look at ggs differently than average men do. I always notice what they are wearing, how they have done their hair and makeup (or not LOL) as well as how they hold themselves, gesture, speak etc. I often reflect back what I see and hear. It makes the conversations so much more enjoyable and after a number of times with a woman friend or colleague we enjoy a wider range of topics.

As for larger groupings or mixed parties I am almost never in with a male only group. I hang with the wives. Their discussions are often more around things I am interested in - family, social issues, relationships.

Has anyone else noted not merely looking at ggs differently but also looking at men differently? I am noting that I am becoming more and more uncomfortable when only in the company of men and sexually denigrating or other macho comments are made. They turn me off and I find it difficult to be friendly. Although I would say that I am not usually attracted to men, I am also more aware of what men are wearing too; becoming less tolerent of sloppy and more appreciative of men who dress well...Dee

[Ashley Allen]

Yes I can definitely say that I relate to that. This is not a new perception of how I see women though, I have always been envious of women. Always checking out the ladies with the cute dress, the nice boots, the new hair do, etc. Now don't get me wrong.... when I am not attentive to being present I can slip in mind and thought and the first thought can be nice ._____ but to me a beautiful sexy women is not a scantly clad half naked big busted ho.... it's the well manicured classy look that attracts me.

[Debbie37]

For me it's a combo of both...I admire how they dress and their shoes and their nails and all of that but at the same time I'm checking them out from a male perspective...so either that makes me a hypocrit or confused I don't know which...

[Lynn Marie]

Seems like I just posted something to this effect on another thread here just a few miutes ago. Yeah, me too.

I've always been somewhat of a "ladies man", and even more so in my old age. I've always appreciated women and admired them when they took good care of themselves. I like classy women, and try to be a classy woman myself.

[Michelle-Leigh]

Been that way ever since May of last year when my crossdressing went into overdrive ! I sometimes get the hots not for the ladies, but what the ladies are wearing ! :devil:

[jenifer m.]

yeah i have to agree i even notice their eye brows now.befor i never paid any attention to them.im always jelous that i cant be the one walking around freely in skirts and heels.but a girl can dream right?

[gabimartini]

I used to work in a very chauvinistic environment, where most men had little respect for females, obviously behind their backs. Besides refusing to join the chauvinistic chorus, I've always been more respectul towards GGs in general. I can't say that I'd like to be them all the time, but I did pay attention to what they wore and what they did.

[eileendover]

Not much different for me, but I've ALWAYS found it much easier to be friends with girls than with guys, even when I was very young. Perhaps it was because my only sibling was an older sister - who knows? Our next-door neighbors had a girl who I played with all the time. For big family gatherings, I always had more fun with my girl cousins than my boy cousins. And during my adult life, I'd say I've only had maybe two close guy friends, but many, many women friends.

CDing has only made me pay more attention to those outer details like clothes, hair, makeup.

[Andy66]

Aw, thanks, ladies! :gh:
For what it's worth, I'm the same way about men as most of you are about GGs - often taking the men's side if some ignorant women talk smack about them, because equality goes both ways.

[Janet K.]

I definitely look at GG's differently than the non-CD males do. The first thing I check out on a woman are her shoes and clothes. Then I gravitate towards her hair and makeup. Unlike the non-CD's, I am not looking at them thinking "I want to hit that," I am looking to gain more of an understanding of how GG's dress and act to present myself as more feminine when in public.

[carolinewalker_2000]

Yes, I do find that I tend to be more observant as to what it is about a GG that attracts me. (Doesn't stop me also fancying many of them though!!)

[Cary]

I still admire the ladies, but I also admire what they are wearing, how they are wearing it. I'm learning more by watching them.

[Jenny Doolittle]

Hi Destiny,

Yes, I agree with you about looking at women differently then other men. I also look at their style, how they carry them self, or how they interact with other people. I am happy to say that I have learned that women are much more respectful of others and that is how I want to treat others as well.

I think when you say men are pigs, I wont go that far, but many view a woman as a conquest. That is so unfortunate, and I think that is what I see when I am in a group with several men talking about women. I am viewed almost as an oddity when I interject an opinion that differs from that point of view and looks at woman as an equal or something special.

[kimdl93]

For me it's a combo of both...I admire how they dress and their shoes and their nails and all of that but at the same time I'm checking them out from a male perspective...so either that makes me a hypocrit or confused I don't know which...

Don't feel alone - I'm doing both...but hopefully not in a boorish manner!

As someone noted above, I also find myself a much better listener...far better at empathizing with others (male or female) than I did some years ago. I don't know if that's femininity or maturity or both.

[sherri52]

I treat GG's the same as I always did. I have been dressing fo over 50 yrs and have for the last 40 always looked at how women dress and carry on. You can tell how successful a women is simply by observing her mannerizms. Women, like men chat about the same thing a man does only using details verses the activity. As for treating them it has always been with respect.

[tamarav]

My reply comes from a different angle. I actually work with GGs and interact and talk and listen to all their tales. How much sex and how often, what they do and don't like about their spouses, men in general, and other women.

Women are just like men, only softer to the touch. They can be as crude, rude and indifferent as males. They do lack the inherent cruelty that men possess.(I only say that because I have not seen women in war time situations)

Women take huge chances in many ways and are totally beautiful in many others. Men just bump fists and go on while women actually hug.

Just my in-depth observations, working dressed, amongst real women.

[Bethany38]

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Kaz you are so right. I look at women in such a different way now. It’s almost indescribable because I can't really remember how I related to them when I was touting all kinds of bravado and trying to convince the world and myself I was a man.

I look at women to see what they are wearing, how they carry themselves and in social settings I am summing them up to determine if I want to share my friendship with them.

When in social situations anymore I almost always gravitate to the "other room" with the wives. Its a much nicer place to be.



Exactly how I feel.:)

[KayC]

Oh yeah...and us GGs notice it too...we notice it when you critique our makeup and dress and don't show any interest in your partner. We don't WANT you to want to be us, we want you to WANT us. But the flip side to that is we have a friend we can do things with and we aren't treated like a sex object...I'm just saying there's pluses and minuses to the relationship.

[Frédérique]

All men are pigs, that's no secret, and we typically talk about the same things all men do when there are no famales around. The thing is, I look at them differently than the rest of the guys and what I mean by that is, they just look at them and see they are attractive. When I look at them, I am looking to see what it is that makes them attractive. Anybody else notice this tendency about themselves?

Yes, of course, and there is a lot of personal visual editing taking place – there are only certain types that I admire, and my own “vision” is made up of several unforgettable observations. It’s rare to be stopped in my tracks by anyone these days, but the individual elements add up in my mind, like a big ball of rubber bands. As for males, one of the nicest compliments I ever received was from my ex-girlfriend. She said, “All men are pigs…except you!” This pronouncement didn’t prevent her from wallowing in the trough of porcine desire a few times, but I digress…:heehee:

I want to be like the females I admire, but I can’t, so I try to be myself and not think about it too much. I like the company of women, since I’m more at ease, but not all women are the same in this regard, are they? When I’m in the company of men I make a huge effort to avoid any typically male topics of conversation. I can pretend to be male for the sake of blending in, but this activity exhausts me quickly, since the intellectual rewards are (usually) non-existent…:doh:

[Alicia_lynn419]

I am in total agreement again... I felt this way even before I really started dressing on a regular basis... I work in a large office building, and every day at lunch in the cafeteria, I watch the GGs, what they're wearing, the make up, jewelry, shoes... And I try to pay compliments as often as I can (without sounding too strange about it). I think most CDs DO "idolize" GGs... BTW, its no surprise most of my closest friends are GG....

[Kaz]

BTW, its no surprise most of my closest friends are GG....

Always been the case with me...much prefer their company.

Kaz xx

[ArleneRaquel]

I have always preferred the company of women & now of CDs ! :battingeyelashes:

[erickka]

I am a great admirer of genetic females. I love to go and just people watch. All in all, women are fascinating creatures.

[DAVIDA]

Me: WOW! What a pair!

Lady: My face is up here!

Me: But those are some killer shoes! Where did you get them?:D

[charlie]

Yes I do! I constantly look at fashions, how women walk in heels, where they place their hands, and how they move. I think we are the ultimate copy cats!

[suchacutie]

The first time we pull on panties and stockings, add heels, bra, forms, and then makeup and wig, the worldview changes. There is no way around it. Suddenly we want to know everything about women and knowledge brings change.

Change must happen. We have no choice!

tina

[TNRobin]

It's funny that so many should mention that they relate better to women than men. In my former profession you had to be a male, yet I had many women friends that I just somehow met. I'm not really sure how or why we became friends, more so than the guys that I worked with, but we did. When I was injured and spent a month in ICU and critical care most of the visitors that I had were women and my mom kept wondering how it was that I was dating so many of them! Of course many of them were married and I had actually never dated any of them or even asked any of them out for that matter. Somehow it just never occurred to me to do so.

Other ways that I can relate better involve such things as shoes or clothes...as in "what can you possibly do with more than 5 pairs of shoes and/or boots?" So my guy closet has 5, maybe 6 pairs of boots and shoes while my Helen closet has at least 20 pairs. Same thing with skirts, dresses, blouses, etc.

I can now fully understand why women pack so much stuff and take so long to get ready. On a good day, when dressed as Helen, I can get ready in about an hour, and that's if I'm really hurrying. As Robert, 20 minutes at a leisurely pace.

When I look at women now, while I still admire beauty, I tend to find particular areas that I study. Such as their eyebrows or the way that they've done their hair. I've even found myself stopping, backing up, and pausing a DVD so that I can get a better and longer look at something that I saw that I'd like to do better.

I find myself studying their fashion sense, what goes together, what doesn't and what they wear in any given situation since I enjoy dressing up, but I don't want to stick out. A cocktail dress at Target would be a NO NO.

I'm sure that there are other things, but that's long enough for now.:D

[ReineD]

All men are pigs, that's no secret, and we typically talk about the same things all men do when there are no famales around.

Um ... and you don't think that women talk about the same things when we are just among ourselves too? :D


I guess Im trying to say that while the other guys see them and want to be with them, I see them and want to be them.

So do you feel attracted to women sexually ever? Or are you finding out as you progress that you want the same things sexually that women do, which is to be with men and this is why you study how the attractive women present themselves? :) When a woman is young (or not so young :)) and sexual, she dresses the way she does to appeal to men and not to other women.

If you are welcoming a GG's response to your question, I relate equally well to women and men. I can discuss arm's length and the more personal topics with both. But when I am in the presence of women, I don't spend my time checking out what they are wearing and picturing it on myself. I might envy a fabulous outfit and make a mental note that I should look for something similar for myself in the future, but that's as far as it goes.